I mean, I understand why some ppl are taken aback at how "reserved" Ted is at the end, esp in this scene, but for me, it makes the character development of Ted that much stronger. S01 Ted was so "relentlessly optimistic" that it destroyed his marriage. In S02, we learned that his father killed himself when he was 16, and in S03, we discover that his mother's way of coping with it was to NOT deal with it. Ted is in his 40s and learning how to process pain for the first time in his life. It makes sense to me that he will be internal/introverted at first. He doesn't have the vocabulary to express these emotions yet, so he's just listening to others. And I think that's OK. I think his silence in this scene is perfect, and it allows Rebecca the space to say what she really wants: Please stay. I want you to stay. Even though she knows deep down he won't, she still has to express it. Just like when Nate started to apologize and Ted says, "It's OK" and Nate says, "Please let me say it." Ted talked a lot in the beginning. Now he has to learn to be silent sometimes.
Also for the first time, I feel like Ted is choosing himself first over anyone else. S1 Ted was always more than willing to help anyone even if it hurts him a bit, like the Indian food - he did it because he wanted to be there for the driver. Now, he’s choosing to go home and a be father. It truly is a new concept for him.
@@ParadoxFreak Excellent point. Which would make it even harder for Ted to say those words out loud. He was probably taught growing up that it's "selfish" to put yourself first, and if he's doing that for the first time at this stage in his life, it would probably feel super uncomfortable, even if deep down he knows he's doing the right thing. Man, this show got so many things just absolutely pitch-perfect in terms of character development and backstory.
Quiting is a hard decision. You spend hours, or days weighing the pros and cons of staying, or taking a new job. When you finally make your decision, the stress falls away and you feel relaxed, you've committed to your decision, and you're at peace with the decision. Ted is at that point in this scene. Rebecca should have put these options on the table sooner, but Ted was always going to choose his son. Once the kid turns 19 and goes off to live in a dorm at university, your time as a full-time parent is over. Ted knows this.
He listens and gives her the space she needs, that's great, but I feel like something’s missing. Nothing is going to change his mind, I don’t see what’s stopping him from telling her how he really feels. For 3 seasons we saw how difficult it was for him to express his true emotions and stop keeping everything to himself. He worked on it with his therapist... It would have been nice to see him open up, especially with Rebecca
He wasn’t keeping issues to himself. He was forcing himself to not face his own issues at all. Him not having to say anything here is more telling. For once Ted doesn’t have to say anything at all. He doesn’t have to project an overly positive attitude towards anyone for them or himself. He’s at peace with this decision and doesn’t need to share it with anyone else.
I think people miss the point of the scene. Rebeca is simply saying everything Ted has been thinking about these past 3 years. Ted is not engaging with it anymore because he is past it and left it behind. He has made his decision. I disagree with the point about backward character development, the silence is because he is at peace.
I also don't think there was backwards character development, BUT it was really hard for the audience to understand why Ted was so silent throughout the whole episode. I don't think he is at peace, as Hannah mentioned in an interview: "You do see a sadness in his eyes in the whole episode. He’s made an absolutely definitive decision. But is it fully joyful? I don’t believe it is. And I think that’s much more compelling." I'm just sad that we didn't get so see the truth bomb, them really talking, all the clues not getting resolved. It felt weird that everything was just dropped..
So glad you shared that. Agreed there is no peace is Ted. I think he’s just as torn but in reverse. Now he’s with his son and missing the life he left behind. As someone with anxiety issues that can be triggering. If they wanted to continue Ted story there could totally be an opening there. Sometimes you get what you think you want and you’re still not happy.
Being at peace doesn’t mean the decision isn’t hard. It means he knows he’s making the right decision. I think the writers got this right. No need to spoon feed the audience here.
Hot take but, I am not a fan of the fact Ted went back to Kansas to his ex wife. I wanted Ted and Rebecca to end up together and I feel like him getting back with Michelle cheapens the development we have seen him and Rebecca go through getting over their divorces.
His behavior in this episode was really off. I like to think it was because he knew if he started to show how he really felt it would be harder to leave. I really wish he had taken Rebecca’s offer and stayed.
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The fact Rebecca threatened to sell the club just to keep Ted shows how much she absolutely loved him. This was an amazing show.
Hannah Waddingham is such a force in acting. Wow
I mean, I understand why some ppl are taken aback at how "reserved" Ted is at the end, esp in this scene, but for me, it makes the character development of Ted that much stronger. S01 Ted was so "relentlessly optimistic" that it destroyed his marriage. In S02, we learned that his father killed himself when he was 16, and in S03, we discover that his mother's way of coping with it was to NOT deal with it. Ted is in his 40s and learning how to process pain for the first time in his life. It makes sense to me that he will be internal/introverted at first. He doesn't have the vocabulary to express these emotions yet, so he's just listening to others. And I think that's OK. I think his silence in this scene is perfect, and it allows Rebecca the space to say what she really wants: Please stay. I want you to stay. Even though she knows deep down he won't, she still has to express it. Just like when Nate started to apologize and Ted says, "It's OK" and Nate says, "Please let me say it." Ted talked a lot in the beginning. Now he has to learn to be silent sometimes.
best understanding of the characters
BBQ sauce, well said
Also for the first time, I feel like Ted is choosing himself first over anyone else. S1 Ted was always more than willing to help anyone even if it hurts him a bit, like the Indian food - he did it because he wanted to be there for the driver. Now, he’s choosing to go home and a be father. It truly is a new concept for him.
@@ParadoxFreak Excellent point. Which would make it even harder for Ted to say those words out loud. He was probably taught growing up that it's "selfish" to put yourself first, and if he's doing that for the first time at this stage in his life, it would probably feel super uncomfortable, even if deep down he knows he's doing the right thing. Man, this show got so many things just absolutely pitch-perfect in terms of character development and backstory.
Quiting is a hard decision. You spend hours, or days weighing the pros and cons of staying, or taking a new job. When you finally make your decision, the stress falls away and you feel relaxed, you've committed to your decision, and you're at peace with the decision. Ted is at that point in this scene. Rebecca should have put these options on the table sooner, but Ted was always going to choose his son. Once the kid turns 19 and goes off to live in a dorm at university, your time as a full-time parent is over. Ted knows this.
There's a small part of me that does wish she had said, "I was thinking of traveling abroad...I hear Kansas is nice."
Would have been nice
A true goodbye always hits harder.
I always looked forward to these scenes with Ted and Rebecca. The two of them together are amazing. Hannah and Jason work well together
“Drink, sleep, fuck” was hilarious 😆
Looking forward to the Drink, Sleep, Fuck spinoff.
He listens and gives her the space she needs, that's great, but I feel like something’s missing.
Nothing is going to change his mind, I don’t see what’s stopping him from telling her how he really feels.
For 3 seasons we saw how difficult it was for him to express his true emotions and stop keeping everything to himself. He worked on it with his therapist... It would have been nice to see him open up, especially with Rebecca
He wasn’t keeping issues to himself. He was forcing himself to not face his own issues at all. Him not having to say anything here is more telling. For once Ted doesn’t have to say anything at all. He doesn’t have to project an overly positive attitude towards anyone for them or himself. He’s at peace with this decision and doesn’t need to share it with anyone else.
I think people miss the point of the scene. Rebeca is simply saying everything Ted has been thinking about these past 3 years. Ted is not engaging with it anymore because he is past it and left it behind. He has made his decision. I disagree with the point about backward character development, the silence is because he is at peace.
Scene makes me cry
Next up: Ted Lasso becomes a congressman!
I don’t find myself attracted to blonds at all … but that woman is beautiful in a way that younger women cannot compete.
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I also don't think there was backwards character development, BUT it was really hard for the audience to understand why Ted was so silent throughout the whole episode. I don't think he is at peace, as Hannah mentioned in an interview:
"You do see a sadness in his eyes in the whole episode. He’s made an absolutely definitive decision. But is it fully joyful? I don’t believe it is. And I think that’s much more compelling."
I'm just sad that we didn't get so see the truth bomb, them really talking, all the clues not getting resolved. It felt weird that everything was just dropped..
So glad you shared that. Agreed there is no peace is Ted. I think he’s just as torn but in reverse. Now he’s with his son and missing the life he left behind. As someone with anxiety issues that can be triggering. If they wanted to continue Ted story there could totally be an opening there. Sometimes you get what you think you want and you’re still not happy.
@@Amanda-wh8ww You can be happy with what you have and still miss what you left.
Being at peace doesn’t mean the decision isn’t hard. It means he knows he’s making the right decision. I think the writers got this right. No need to spoon feed the audience here.
What is the movie name in Netflix please
It’s from Apple TV Plus and the show is Ted Lasso
Warning: If you watch this show…you will ugly cry.
Hot take but, I am not a fan of the fact Ted went back to Kansas to his ex wife. I wanted Ted and Rebecca to end up together and I feel like him getting back with Michelle cheapens the development we have seen him and Rebecca go through getting over their divorces.
He didn't get back together with his ex-wife.
He went back to be a father to his son.
@@Irishprice1 It was ambiguous.
audio so low, could hardly make out what was being said....
Rebecca: 196 words
Ted: 3 words
Ted isn’t Ted anymore. He’s just a human shell who just went backwards in character progression.
9 words. "I do, yeah." "Eat, pray, love style, right?" "Ohhh."
Why? He’s been a good listener since the first episode. He talks when he has something to say and listens when others need to say something
His behavior in this episode was really off. I like to think it was because he knew if he started to show how he really felt it would be harder to leave. I really wish he had taken Rebecca’s offer and stayed.
Progression doesn't always mean more words
You don't cut on the street lights just so you can see you do it for other people to see