*UPDATE* This test should not be taken serious and you should not rely on the results. I made mistake, I set AAT to High Power Mode which caused Volvo not to up-shift in test with 14 ton trailer. No Trailer and 61 Ton trailer test should be correct. No Trailer: Both trucks are even (Neck on Neck) *15 Ton Trailer: Volvo should win this by 1-2 seconds* 61 Ton Trailer: Scania wins by half a second
still proves the paper and my understanding correct to the Results which always variates from driver to driver to get perfect resutls you would need a speed dynamo and Electronic/computerised Driving still a good video
@Eyblast Well, technically, you are correct, Scania is nowadays owned by Volkswagen, it's true. However, Scania was founded as a swedish truck manufacturer, is the last surviving remnant of the SAAB partnership that is still up and running and even the name "Scania" is litterally the old-school name of the swedish province of Skåne (The griffin is the coat-of-arms for that same province). The owners may change like the seasons, but the company itself is swedish through-and-through.
In real life: any Scania R series due to its "hotel" feel and overall comfort. Volvos have a flat floor, which does kinda take away some space in the cab, if I personally got to choose in real life, I'd go for the Scania, the newest ones are so nice to drive.
🔴They both had automatic, but, the Scania had the upper hand as it was changing gears better/faster than the Volvo. The Scania player had the 'Normal' shifting setting on and the Volvo player had 'High Power' setting on, as the Volvo was shifting to red line and the Scania was shifting to 1500rpm, thus making the Scania more superior as it's using more torque in the low rev range and obviously changing gears faster. Whereas the Volvo was using all of its rev range, but not utilising its torque range. They should have checked both of their adaptive transmission settings before conducting the test.🔴 🔴Anyone who has played Euro Truck Simulator 2 for a long time or knows about trucks, in general, would already worked this one out xD🔴 🔴Don't take offence TGM if you read this, just some constructive criticism, but a great video, love the editing - keep up the good work! :)🔴
xTH3xMoDsZx also what I noticed is that the Volvo engine maxes out at 2000 rpm where the Scania maxes out at 2500 rpm. From personal experience, the Allison (in second gear) tries to reach 2500 rpm in the Volvo but when it reaches 2000 rpm, it lags out until you either let off the throttle for it to shift or wait for it to which takes a couple seconds. But in the Scania, it reaches 2500 rpm in second gear.
Touché @@rhyanclark1904! Also, both different engines ones a V8 (Scania) and the other is a straight six (Volvo). But it would definitely have been a different result if they both had the same adaptive transmission settings!
I see few problems with this -Volvo had shifting at 2000rpm which means it had adaptive gearbox on, Scania did not -Use the 12 speed box with lower rations -It looks like the tires sizes isnt the same across both of them
Yes that's true there are few problems in those test's but to be honest we cant rlealy make all perfect it was our first test and we know now what to keep an eye on. The Adaptive Auto Trans has been set to Eco mode on Volvo Drivers truck, that's way it didnt shifted gear at the certain time on that uphill. We run tests again with Disabled Adaptive Auto Trans and Volvo did very good job, race was almost neck on neck but when we did 61t trailer test the Scania pulled away just like in the video and as well we did tests with same tire size it didnt make any difference. Thank you for suggestion we will next time keep an eye on the Adaptive auto Trans mode and try to make test better. Cheers!
Did anyone notice that the Volvo driver was clearly using a keyboard to steer (with the sudden jolting steering wheel) and the Scania wasn't. This means that the adaptive automatic transmission didnt know how hard the pedal was being pressed on the volvo (because it was an on/off button) so it may not have been in the most appropriate gear. I reckon that if you use keyboard, the game assumes that you are flooring it, but does not drop it down a gear like when you use pedals at full throttle. I reckon this may be why the Scania won!
Francis Cope Actually I have never seen that behavior on Scania, when I floor the throttle ( I’m using keyboard anyway ) it just upshift on the perfect rpm ( slightly beyond the peak power, I think it shift slightly beyond the peak power so on the next gear, the engine would stay near peak power rpm )
It's most likely because the person in the Volvo had their Adaptive Transmission setting set to Power Mode, which holds the gears longer, and on keyboard, it's as if you would be flooring it all the time.
Button pressed = 100% Button not pressed = 0%. So tell me why the transmission shouldn't know how hard the pedal is pressed? Just look at the axles in the options.
Tire sizes,TGM's volvo is using adaptive automatic transmission and is changing on 2000rpm..And in the 12 speed race it is chaning by 1 gear,which is complete bullshit...Which is not an advantage when pulling loads,because the torque of the truck peaks at 1300rpm.. Not the most accurate test,but still cheers for your work..Try switching off the adaptive automatic transmission and u will see the difference..
Hello and thanks for your reply we tested again with same Tire size but we could not see any difference as for the adaptive transmission mode we found out that i was Rocking in Eco mode and Scania driver had that option disabled which meant that my truck was stuck in low gear on that hill. Thanks for your suggestion very much.
@@TGMStefa Eco or High Power,it is actually the same..All SCS did with this feature is bullshit..Cause when you use kickdown feature the truck shifts at 2100rpm and only shifts with 1 gear..This is not helping at all..Try switching off the Adaptive Automatic Transmission and there will be a big difference..
Hey so as you informed as we did run a tests again and it seems like Volvo really does good with disabled Adaptive Auto Trans but only on 15ton trailer test, when we did test with 61ton the Scania pulled away just like in the video. To be honest we wouldn't really notice this if you didn't let us know about that i found it strange that Volvo was stuck there in same gear but i thought that's the way it is then you pointed out and i checked my settings and found out it was set to Eco mode. This was our first test the things cant bee all perfect but now we know what to keep an eye when doing such a videos like this. Thank you again for informing us and letting us know that Cheers!
I know, just one comment. The Scania V8 engine with 730 hp have more torque than Volvo straight 6 with 750 hp, and the Scania opticruise gearbox more powerful than Volvo opticruise gearbox, but two trucks made same place, Sweeden. By the way, nice comparison, nice video! :)
A thing to note. Apart from what other users have noted about the shifting differences. The Volvo engines in the game don’t have torque curves assigned to them so it’s using the game default torque curve which is inaccurate for the engine, the new Scania S does have a proper torque curve assigned. If we take a look at both Volvo’s latest D16 engine and Scania’s latest V8 performance is very similar between both engines. The bigger difference would be on the transmission and final gearing of both trucks. In the end you can’t go wrong with either one, but if you want a more realistic depiction of the Volvo engines you should look at mods that actually give the engines proper torque curves. I think there was one in the Steam Workshop called Volvo driveline revision or similar. In my case I created my own personal mod by looking at torque charts for the engines that are actually supposed to go in the FH and not the old Euro5 engines copied from the old FH16 that SCS did.
@@lifooz2955 I checked again and no, the engines still have no torque curves assigned to them. You’re still better off using an engine mod if you want an accurate engine behavior for the Volvo trucks.
@@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem doesn’t give more power but makes the powerband wider and correct so you get better acceleration and the automatic shifting will be better.
jerry can iveco make some decent ridged trucks these days think there time of artics is fading away Renault is doing very well I prefer Renault but would say either of them was shit
@@jonasplett172 its not the Driversfautl the Volvo has Adaptiv Automatic turned on. You can see that, the volvo goes to 2000RPM and the Scania always shifts at 1500 RP/M
If you look closely, at the no trailer test, at the remacth TGM was starting to move before start, and that why he win the rematch, and also at the 14-ton trailer test at first round was also moved before start (if you look at the Scania rigth mirror at 4:18 you will se how it moved)
My experiences with truck in Ets2: SCANIA all praise,accelrates very well and the maximum speed is about 160km/h. Interior is very modern. The truc is quite stable and it feels like you are driving a car and not a truck..very sporty. VOLVO also good,accerlation also brutal but max speed is 150km/h. I expected more from the engine with 750hp. Inside solid when you take into account the age.behavior is solid but does not have that sporty feeling in corners like Scania 730. MERCEDES very nice accerlation is solid and the maximum speed of 157-158 is also good. The interior is luxurious. The behavior on the road isn’t sporty,it’s more like cruising with it, whic can bee seen by leaning when entering a curve. MAN very good truck.accelerates solidly top speed of 155km/h is also good. In driving very clear because of the large windows . Interior standard for trucks od this manufacturer.The only thing i can complain about is a turn signal(blinkers) thet works so slowly that it’s irritanting. Behaviour is standard for a truck. DAF is a solid truck. Accerlation solid in relation to power,maximum speed also ok. Interior in some more expensive variant can be luxurious. Behavior in the road is a bit sharky quit leans in curves even if it is not a flaw. Only good thing woud be they have some more powerful engine. I will not comment on IVECO and Renault because i didn’t drive them and i don’t favor those 2 brands.
I feel like the left lane is slightly more loped than the right lane as the rematch on the first race the Volvo was in the left lane and won after loosing in the right lane
thank you for letting me be a part of this! this was the most fun iv had on ets2 in ages! you did such amazing work in the edits and with the camera work im totally in love with this vdeo😍 everything was such on point here nothing could have been better honestly I'm glad others enjoyed it too as much as me cus you really deserve that after all this work :) awesome concept as well no one has done such an in-depth version which makes this even better! looking forward to your next project i had such a blast with this one :D
Yay thank you man a lot, glad you like the edit :) but still without you this wont be possible so huge thanks to you and effort you put in staying up to 4am in the morning rendering/uploading clips
There are two problems with the test. One is why scania does not use the S730 with a high cab (Volvo has a high cab). The power of D16G750 reached its peak of 750 horsepower at 1800 RPM and began to drop sharply. At 2000 RPM, it was only 300 horsepower. In the test, Volvo did not change gear until it ran out of oil.
yes i hear what you say but it might have a shit engine thats not able to do the job so the thing with trucks are you need a nice interior but also look for a good engine that packs the punch as well
Look we also use scania and volvo mercedes bens for general moving for heavy jobs we use freightliner we dont have mack at all in our country cannot buy a mack because we dont have them here
I'am a Volvo driver and I love the Volvo but both have their pros and cons thats just so there are no real winners in my opinion because they are the top dogs among the European trucks - both are super trucks
In the 61ton test the Volvo wasn't skipping any gears, the transmission was set to power mode, unlike the scania which was holding gears for longer, this is very unfair
Congrats on making an ETS2 video I actually watched to the end. If you monetized this video, you'll get your fraction of a cent from my watching it all. But the whole time I was thinking _"It's not about the horsepower, but the transmission."_ With a better transmission, the Volvo will smoke that Scania every time...
Nice test but I'd change a way it was done. 1) I'd make 4 races per trailer option: 2 tests with 1st driver using Scana, 2nd driver using Volvo then switch. This would eliminate driving style differences. Also I'd switch lines and use exactly the same track. 2) I'd make also tests with sequence and full realistic manual using dedicated Scania/Volvo gearboxes. 3) I'd add also break test (how fast from high speed to full stop) and stability test (how fast you can go without tipping on corners) 4) While driving I'd turn on for both drivers NAV GUI 5) I'd compare also fuel usage (each race reset statistics and check fuel usage at finish) Also I'd add comment on pros/cons of interior focusing on dashboard. Why I'd add this? I'm playing ETS on triple monitor setup or VR (depending on my mood) and dashboard look is very important in those setups, especially on triple monitor, as my screen is around 1m away from my eyes. I know it's old test so maybe You've changed it in newer ones, but this way it'd be nice to have a retest (especially that some of game engine has changed)
@@Team_Reaper. yes. They pulled 750tonnes a few meters. And? Has scania tried? No. They dont need to show off. There are several videoes showing the 730 pulling away from volvo 750. And now scania has 770 and thats even more powerful
Great video. I actually was driving on Volvo's for a long time, but moved to Scania not because of any gearbox/engine but because of how much I love the look of the Scania interior (GPS, Windshield size and Dashboard layout are perfect). They're evenly matched overall for power imho.
Volvo is always the best It is comfort truck , i try it because my dad is a truck driver, he drive scania and volvo but volvo is best in acceleration and handling I ❤volvo
I like your videos. They're very well edited, and you have a good format to show the features, in this case of both trucks. May I suggest a comparison between each truck within a similar price range? I mean, like, do a comparison between the trucks you can buy with a low budget, or compare all the 8x4 trucks available... It would be great material for us.
Both are pretty much equal IMO. I prefer the Scania for its bold design, looks like a beefy viking ready to show who's the boss! I started with the Scania (don't remember the model), and it has NEVER let me down. Yes I admit it is a bit sluggish when going on up hill on the highway, pulling a bulldozer, but I upgraded it. I still drive it, and I wish to get the 8x4 Scania! Volvo is not bad, honestly. VERY powerful, Volvo seems to put more emphasis on utility power, getting the job done. But the design is boring, and it seems more appealing to buy for the drivers, not the actual players themselves. Imo
I get what you say the Scania feels like more modern nearly. It has like and effortlessly power. But the Volvo has this more traditional truck drag to it. I love testing them getting up to 95-100mph heading from Germany to Scandinavia.
Kinda off-topic but i wanna know something. How did you make the Scania's back so sexy? I'm talkin bout huge the V8 sign. Is it modded? I wonder if i can make it in official multiplayer server, it looks soo freakin good.
Hey yeah if course, this is a Scania Tunning Pack called Mighty Griffin Tuning Pack on steam and it works with Multiplayer store.steampowered.com/app/461244/Euro_Truck_Simulator_2__Mighty_Griffin_Tuning_Pack/
@@holodok315 это ты дерьмо, в реале, на ручке и мишленовских колёсах, она быстрее и имеет меньший угол, когда грузовик ложится на бок. Ездил на скании и вольво и мне не понравилось, когда со скоростью 140 скания уже переворачивалась, а то время как на вольве я спокойно 150 ехал с грузом. В тесте водила на вольво на 1500 оборотах переключал передачи, в то время как на скании на 2000 оборотах. Тест не объективный.
I had a tip from a real scania driver worked since 1980s , he told me that scania is the best truck because it's the most powerful one especially on hilly road and doesn't coast or body roll like Mercedes actros or Volvo in detours Volvo is better when it comes to safety features like collision warning or something
In most cases the Volvo started off first, but when it came to it the Scania was faster at 61t. Ask any operator and you'll find the real test is which is more economic/less down time.
Example, i bought the lowest type of volvo, the price is about 100k euro, it has engine with power as 600 hp, then i collect money to buy a stronger engine, it has 700 hp
C0llegeblock I think he is mentioning the cheapest one which is the FH16 2008 variant I think, its got a decent engine, but definitely not faster than the ones shown
@@gabrielbickner4166 it used to be the fastest truck back in the first couple months of the game and tbh even in these days it's pretty decent and fast but if you Play TruckersMP you will know that speed doesn't matter there as everyone goes 110km max
Volvo drives better. SCS fucked something up with the chassis geometry of the new Scania, it's unstable in every configuration except 4x2. The new Actros and especially the new MAN drive better aswell.
@@namenamename390 Because you won't notice it without comparison. Drive a Volvo, Mercedes or MAN for a while and switch back to the Scania again, you will have problems with stability. After 400.000+ km on the FH16 the Scania S felt twitchy like a mofo.
@@SethHappens Yes,definitly Scs should fix this problem,i drive Volvo all the time,i have 200 000 km in my Volvo and i know the problem and i always have to look when its in 4th gear to let the gas a little bit of so it can shift
For me both are winners...I have both and ride on each one alternatively...the editing is just on another level...I almost felt as if it was a real drag race
@@JulioPofc 100% manipulado esse teste, olha na segunda corrida, o volvo trava no 100 km/h enquanto a scania passa subindo a 115km/h, só quem joga de volvo sabe que o caminhao sobe o giro muito rapido
@@Gedvinas God I hope not. TMP is the best, and will always be the best for truckers who want the real experience. In TMP, you're suppouse to drive exactly like IRL, this isn't a racing game
In the beginning of game, I will choose Volvo (F16H CLASSIC) because that truck very powerful to haul heavy cargo and its price not too expensive than Scania
for anyone watching this the volvo would have definetely done alot better but credit to TGM for admitting he made a mistake in the test , why dont you do a retest ? with equal settings now
*UPDATE* This test should not be taken serious and you should not rely on the results. I made mistake, I set AAT to High Power Mode which caused Volvo not to up-shift in test with 14 ton trailer. No Trailer and 61 Ton trailer test should be correct.
No Trailer: Both trucks are even (Neck on Neck)
*15 Ton Trailer: Volvo should win this by 1-2 seconds*
61 Ton Trailer: Scania wins by half a second
Will you do another Video with updated test? Please, just do it!
No worries, TGM 😉
still proves the paper and my understanding correct to the Results which always variates from driver to driver to get perfect resutls you would need a speed dynamo and Electronic/computerised Driving still a good video
one question, why You used 6 speed gearbox from mod?
For a realistic comparison, you should’ve used the I-Shift Dual Clutch transmission instead of the Alison.
The real winner here is sweden. For making the 2 best truck companies out there
So true!
Faster/stronger doesn't mean better. Most truck drivers I know would say that The Netherlands won by building DAF.
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He is Swedish check him out his channel he is awesome
@Eyblast Well, technically, you are correct, Scania is nowadays owned by Volkswagen, it's true. However, Scania was founded as a swedish truck manufacturer, is the last surviving remnant of the SAAB partnership that is still up and running and even the name "Scania" is litterally the old-school name of the swedish province of Skåne (The griffin is the coat-of-arms for that same province). The owners may change like the seasons, but the company itself is swedish through-and-through.
@@diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102 in polish people say iveco and renault is not a truck so daf is 5th place
scania : like
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6:12 Why the Volvo doesn’t upshift ?, 2000 rpm is already far beyond its peak power.
Because this guy knows shit about driving lol
@@Minto107 maybe you don't know shit about this game, it's on automatic, he has adaptive transmission set on power and that s why
@@robert.39 Hahaha lmaooo I have over 2000 hours there mate
well that didnt help you answer the question did it?
Michael Janicki and?
In the game: Volvo for its practical dash and "hotel room" feel (on its stock trim), Scania for its V8 sound and modification parts.
In real life: any Scania R series due to its "hotel" feel and overall comfort.
Volvos have a flat floor, which does kinda take away some space in the cab, if I personally got to choose in real life, I'd go for the Scania, the newest ones are so nice to drive.
@@LifeRunner4000 libreals only choose scania
🔴They both had automatic, but, the Scania had the upper hand as it was changing gears better/faster than the Volvo. The Scania player had the 'Normal' shifting setting on and the Volvo player had 'High Power' setting on, as the Volvo was shifting to red line and the Scania was shifting to 1500rpm, thus making the Scania more superior as it's using more torque in the low rev range and obviously changing gears faster. Whereas the Volvo was using all of its rev range, but not utilising its torque range. They should have checked both of their adaptive transmission settings before conducting the test.🔴
🔴Anyone who has played Euro Truck Simulator 2 for a long time or knows about trucks, in general, would already worked this one out xD🔴
🔴Don't take offence TGM if you read this, just some constructive criticism, but a great video, love the editing - keep up the good work! :)🔴
xTH3xMoDsZx also what I noticed is that the Volvo engine maxes out at 2000 rpm where the Scania maxes out at 2500 rpm. From personal experience, the Allison (in second gear) tries to reach 2500 rpm in the Volvo but when it reaches 2000 rpm, it lags out until you either let off the throttle for it to shift or wait for it to which takes a couple seconds. But in the Scania, it reaches 2500 rpm in second gear.
Touché @@rhyanclark1904! Also, both different engines ones a V8 (Scania) and the other is a straight six (Volvo). But it would definitely have been a different result if they both had the same adaptive transmission settings!
@@rhyanclark1904 shoot sorry missed clicked
The scania also had different tires but i think that doesnt make a big difference
I've been on volvo 2016 FH16 and Its horrible to drive etc. Just love Scania
I see few problems with this
-Volvo had shifting at 2000rpm which means it had adaptive gearbox on, Scania did not
-Use the 12 speed box with lower rations
-It looks like the tires sizes isnt the same across both of them
Yes that's true there are few problems in those test's but to be honest we cant rlealy make all perfect it was our first test and we know now what to keep an eye on.
The Adaptive Auto Trans has been set to Eco mode on Volvo Drivers truck, that's way it didnt shifted gear at the certain time on that uphill. We run tests again with Disabled Adaptive Auto Trans and Volvo did very good job, race was almost neck on neck but when we did 61t trailer test the Scania pulled away just like in the video and as well we did tests with same tire size it didnt make any difference.
Thank you for suggestion we will next time keep an eye on the Adaptive auto Trans mode and try to make test better.
Cheers!
Man Vs Mercedes? Maybe?
Mercedes won ;-;
Oof
MAN won
In ETS2 Mercedes with V8 have 582 hp and Man with V8 have 640 hp
@@mantruck9070oh ok
Did anyone notice that the Volvo driver was clearly using a keyboard to steer (with the sudden jolting steering wheel) and the Scania wasn't. This means that the adaptive automatic transmission didnt know how hard the pedal was being pressed on the volvo (because it was an on/off button) so it may not have been in the most appropriate gear. I reckon that if you use keyboard, the game assumes that you are flooring it, but does not drop it down a gear like when you use pedals at full throttle. I reckon this may be why the Scania won!
Francis Cope Actually I have never seen that behavior on Scania, when I floor the throttle ( I’m using keyboard anyway ) it just upshift on the perfect rpm ( slightly beyond the peak power, I think it shift slightly beyond the peak power so on the next gear, the engine would stay near peak power rpm )
It's most likely because the person in the Volvo had their Adaptive Transmission setting set to Power Mode, which holds the gears longer, and on keyboard, it's as if you would be flooring it all the time.
Button pressed = 100%
Button not pressed = 0%.
So tell me why the transmission shouldn't know how hard the pedal is pressed? Just look at the axles in the options.
I play on keyboard and use manual transmission
The scania player played on keyboard and used mouse steering
Exterior: Volvo
Intetior: Scania
Both 2 amazing trucks from 2 super good companys.
Tire sizes,TGM's volvo is using adaptive automatic transmission and is changing on 2000rpm..And in the 12 speed race it is chaning by 1 gear,which is complete bullshit...Which is not an advantage when pulling loads,because the torque of the truck peaks at 1300rpm..
Not the most accurate test,but still cheers for your work..Try switching off the adaptive automatic transmission and u will see the difference..
Hello and thanks for your reply we tested again with same Tire size but we could not see any difference as for the adaptive transmission mode we found out that i was Rocking in Eco mode and Scania driver had that option disabled which meant that my truck was stuck in low gear on that hill. Thanks for your suggestion very much.
@@TGMStefa Eco or High Power,it is actually the same..All SCS did with this feature is bullshit..Cause when you use kickdown feature the truck shifts at 2100rpm and only shifts with 1 gear..This is not helping at all..Try switching off the Adaptive Automatic Transmission and there will be a big difference..
Hey so as you informed as we did run a tests again and it seems like Volvo really does good with disabled Adaptive Auto Trans but only on 15ton trailer test, when we did test with 61ton the Scania pulled away just like in the video.
To be honest we wouldn't really notice this if you didn't let us know about that i found it strange that Volvo was stuck there in same gear but i thought that's the way it is then you pointed out and i checked my settings and found out it was set to Eco mode. This was our first test the things cant bee all perfect but now we know what to keep an eye when doing such a videos like this. Thank you again for informing us and letting us know that Cheers!
@@TGMStefa U r welcome!
No manual gearbox = no aditional resulst
I guess, the tire sizes not same on two truck... in turn this is also important, because the smaller tire makes it easier to accelerate
That's true, we did give it a try at the end with same tire size but no difference happened still Scania pulled a way.
HI
i though so to so we did a test with the exact same Michelin tires at the end, and the result was no different at all :)
I know, just one comment. The Scania V8 engine with 730 hp have more torque than Volvo straight 6 with 750 hp, and the Scania opticruise gearbox more powerful than Volvo opticruise gearbox, but two trucks made same place, Sweeden.
By the way, nice comparison, nice video! :)
@@Daniel_NewZealand yeah i get you. thanks for watching though :D
put a sign saying " This video was sponsored by Scania".
yeah 🤣🤣
5:00 You must be joking. Scania paid you for this test? What about 5th gear? :D
Both use auto box
but manual is good i also use manual in ets 2
In the test they use auto box though.
It was uphill, so automat stays at 4th gear.
Lol its automatic
A thing to note. Apart from what other users have noted about the shifting differences. The Volvo engines in the game don’t have torque curves assigned to them so it’s using the game default torque curve which is inaccurate for the engine, the new Scania S does have a proper torque curve assigned. If we take a look at both Volvo’s latest D16 engine and Scania’s latest V8 performance is very similar between both engines. The bigger difference would be on the transmission and final gearing of both trucks. In the end you can’t go wrong with either one, but if you want a more realistic depiction of the Volvo engines you should look at mods that actually give the engines proper torque curves. I think there was one in the Steam Workshop called Volvo driveline revision or similar. In my case I created my own personal mod by looking at torque charts for the engines that are actually supposed to go in the FH and not the old Euro5 engines copied from the old FH16 that SCS did.
Do you think SCS has fixed the torque for the Volvo trucks now 3 years later?
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@@lifooz2955 I checked again and no, the engines still have no torque curves assigned to them. You’re still better off using an engine mod if you want an accurate engine behavior for the Volvo trucks.
@@Hartbreak1 does the mod make the volvo faster
@@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem doesn’t give more power but makes the powerband wider and correct so you get better acceleration and the automatic shifting will be better.
@@Hartbreak1 explain powerband wider i do quite partially know it might be wider higher some kind so it dosent drop off high revs sporty revs
Renault VS Iveco
*volvo vs iveco
@Hyunbin Renault trucks use volvo drivetrains.... ;)
Renault is part of volvo family but Renault use less powerful engines so volvo would win 99%
Two shittiest trucks Renault and iveco
jerry can iveco make some decent ridged trucks these days think there time of artics is fading away Renault is doing very well I prefer Renault but would say either of them was shit
6:21 what ??? volvo don't up speed ???
@@jonasplett172 , i completely agree with u , coz volvo is all about performance but the driver sucked so bad
This tester ir shit...
@@jonasplett172 its not the Driversfautl the Volvo has Adaptiv Automatic turned on. You can see that, the volvo goes to 2000RPM and the Scania always shifts at 1500 RP/M
Volvo gearbox is a little bit sensitiv and sluggish...
@Asi Ja of course volvo is the best one
Scania's driver not pushing engine at it's max load like the volvo does
Rematch !!!
Shut up looser xD
Xaxaxa Scania in economi mode Vs Volvo high power. 1500prm Vs 2000prm shift to next gear but Scania is the best
@@loko609 Your the loser so shut up yourself kid.
They need to rematch with automatic gear changing so you wont have that problem
@@Xavierzonn it was automatic but the volvo had adaptive gearbox so depending on how you press the pedal it will go higher in rpms or not
If you look closely, at the no trailer test, at the remacth TGM was starting to move before start, and that why he win the rematch, and also at the 14-ton trailer test at first round was also moved before start (if you look at the Scania rigth mirror at 4:18 you will se how it moved)
My experiences with truck in Ets2:
SCANIA all praise,accelrates very well and the maximum speed is about 160km/h. Interior is very modern. The truc is quite stable and it feels like you are driving a car and not a truck..very sporty.
VOLVO also good,accerlation also brutal but max speed is 150km/h. I expected more from the engine with 750hp. Inside solid when you take into account the age.behavior is solid but does not have that sporty feeling in corners like Scania 730.
MERCEDES very nice accerlation is solid and the maximum speed of 157-158 is also good. The interior is luxurious. The behavior on the road isn’t sporty,it’s more like cruising with it, whic can bee seen by leaning when entering a curve.
MAN very good truck.accelerates solidly top speed of 155km/h is also good. In driving very clear because of the large windows . Interior standard for trucks od this manufacturer.The only thing i can complain about is a turn signal(blinkers) thet works so slowly that it’s irritanting. Behaviour is standard for a truck.
DAF is a solid truck. Accerlation solid in relation to power,maximum speed also ok. Interior in some more expensive variant can be luxurious. Behavior in the road is a bit sharky quit leans in curves even if it is not a flaw. Only good thing woud be they have some more powerful engine.
I will not comment on IVECO and Renault because i didn’t drive them and i don’t favor those 2 brands.
I have to agree on this one
my top 3 favorite trucks are
1. scania
2. mercedes
3. daf
TheYeeter my favorite:
1.Scania
2.Volvo
3. Mercedes
4. DAF
I feel like the left lane is slightly more loped than the right lane as the rematch on the first race the Volvo was in the left lane and won after loosing in the right lane
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He is a really 🇸🇪 dude Check him out ✌️
You do know that they're driving at the same lane? The remach is just reverse
5:21 volvo gearbox doesn't shift when u using gas pedal. Thats why you didn't stay on road. So if volvo shift there, it would be winner.
thank you for letting me be a part of this! this was the most fun iv had on ets2 in ages! you did such amazing work in the edits and with the camera work im totally in love with this vdeo😍 everything was such on point here nothing could have been better honestly I'm glad others enjoyed it too as much as me cus you really deserve that after all this work :) awesome concept as well no one has done such an in-depth version which makes this even better! looking forward to your next project i had such a blast with this one :D
Yay thank you man a lot, glad you like the edit :) but still without you this wont be possible so huge thanks to you and effort you put in staying up to 4am in the morning rendering/uploading clips
@@TGMStefa that was the least i could do when i see what an amazing edit you've done with this :D
@@IceRaged Can you please do a customization tutorial on that Scania, im loving the looks, and i want to try this powerful monster on ETS2 MP
There are two problems with the test. One is why scania does not use the S730 with a high cab (Volvo has a high cab). The power of D16G750 reached its peak of 750 horsepower at 1800 RPM and began to drop sharply. At 2000 RPM, it was only 300 horsepower. In the test, Volvo did not change gear until it ran out of oil.
I just choose the truck with the nicest interior and dashboard
Yes XD how you should
yes i hear what you say but it might have a shit engine thats not able to do the job so the thing with trucks are you need a nice interior but also look for a good engine that packs the punch as well
@@amandabooysen1872 bro that's why upgrades exist
yes but some guys can only upgrade to a certain point because they dont have that much money bro you cannot rely just on a trucks interior
Look we also use scania and volvo mercedes bens for general moving for heavy jobs we use freightliner we dont have mack at all in our country cannot buy a mack because we dont have them here
I think the left lane win anyway 🤣
Nice job TGM 👏👌
I'am a Volvo driver and I love the Volvo but both have their pros and cons thats just so there are no real winners in my opinion because they are the top dogs among the European trucks - both are super trucks
In the 61ton test the Volvo wasn't skipping any gears, the transmission was set to power mode, unlike the scania which was holding gears for longer, this is very unfair
Congrats on making an ETS2 video I actually watched to the end. If you monetized this video, you'll get your fraction of a cent from my watching it all. But the whole time I was thinking _"It's not about the horsepower, but the transmission."_ With a better transmission, the Volvo will smoke that Scania every time...
And back to Real life. Where Volvo beats Scania any time
it's crazy the volvo has more strength but it's harder and the scania runs more and it's comfortable you can see it in the videos
@@murilohenrique9450 its just a video game. Not the real world.
A 750 HP Volvo. Will outrun a Scania.
@@TheGnue in the real life bro
@@murilohenrique9450 Yeah i Know. Read my original post
@@TheGnue ohh sorry
Brake test?
Ahoj čechu
@@rakouwusky8583 sry slovaku xD
Mrs u lm
Čo vy čehuni 🤣
Zdarec :D
Scania V8 forever!!! :D
On a serious note, kudos to Volvo engineers for getting that much power from an I6.
who ever is driving volvo doesnt know how to that thing is powerful it seems like this video was made for scania
Volvo is on automatic
Nice test but I'd change a way it was done.
1) I'd make 4 races per trailer option: 2 tests with 1st driver using Scana, 2nd driver using Volvo then switch. This would eliminate driving style differences. Also I'd switch lines and use exactly the same track.
2) I'd make also tests with sequence and full realistic manual using dedicated Scania/Volvo gearboxes.
3) I'd add also break test (how fast from high speed to full stop) and stability test (how fast you can go without tipping on corners)
4) While driving I'd turn on for both drivers NAV GUI
5) I'd compare also fuel usage (each race reset statistics and check fuel usage at finish)
Also I'd add comment on pros/cons of interior focusing on dashboard. Why I'd add this? I'm playing ETS on triple monitor setup or VR (depending on my mood) and dashboard look is very important in those setups, especially on triple monitor, as my screen is around 1m away from my eyes.
I know it's old test so maybe You've changed it in newer ones, but this way it'd be nice to have a retest (especially that some of game engine has changed)
6:27 it hit v-tec
vtec is gay
@@thermidorlevrai65 do you even know what vtec is?
@@KepejasLT yeah and it suck
Very good Video Stefa. You are the best Euro Truck UA-camr! :D
I love how calm and smooth the Volvo is driving and how hard the Scania is trying.
doesnt really matter, the scania har more power in the real world too, you will end up first in a uphill battle
@@supertreme5559ol volvo pulled 750 tonne 😂
@@Team_Reaper. yes. They pulled 750tonnes a few meters. And? Has scania tried? No. They dont need to show off. There are several videoes showing the 730 pulling away from volvo 750. And now scania has 770 and thats even more powerful
@@supertreme5559 if they try they'll lose for sure but volvo inline 6 engine produces 750hp lol
@@Team_Reaper. yes. And scanias v8 that is also 0.2liters bigger produces 770 and has more torque
I think you should've used the same standard automatic gearbox (12 speed) and with normal mode. Either way a nice video :)
4:52 sounds like the volvo is a locomotive steamrolling past the scania
That one on the right can't get up, he always gets up at night
Great video. I actually was driving on Volvo's for a long time, but moved to Scania not because of any gearbox/engine but because of how much I love the look of the Scania interior (GPS, Windshield size and Dashboard layout are perfect).
They're evenly matched overall for power imho.
Volvo is always the best
It is comfort truck , i try it because my dad is a truck driver, he drive scania and volvo but volvo is best in acceleration and handling
I ❤volvo
The scanias v8 sounds amazing with an exhsaust mod though
Despite all the tests, my heart lies with Scania R❤️
What's the difference between s and r?
@@jeffu73 in performance none. However the R is shorter in hight than the S model.
@@V0idrunn3r28 Thx
I like your videos. They're very well edited, and you have a good format to show the features, in this case of both trucks. May I suggest a comparison between each truck within a similar price range? I mean, like, do a comparison between the trucks you can buy with a low budget, or compare all the 8x4 trucks available... It would be great material for us.
Me: I’ll take a Nissan Leaf anytime...
*Reads title*
Me: Oh wait a minute...
Volvo FH16: Like
Scania S: Comment
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Both are pretty much equal IMO. I prefer the Scania for its bold design, looks like a beefy viking ready to show who's the boss! I started with the Scania (don't remember the model), and it has NEVER let me down. Yes I admit it is a bit sluggish when going on up hill on the highway, pulling a bulldozer, but I upgraded it. I still drive it, and I wish to get the 8x4 Scania!
Volvo is not bad, honestly. VERY powerful, Volvo seems to put more emphasis on utility power, getting the job done. But the design is boring, and it seems more appealing to buy for the drivers, not the actual players themselves. Imo
I get what you say the Scania feels like more modern nearly. It has like and effortlessly power. But the Volvo has this more traditional truck drag to it. I love testing them getting up to 95-100mph heading from Germany to Scandinavia.
For me is best Scania
Radoslav Remža +
@@КостяТарасенко-э4л ano Scania je nejlepší!!
@@tomassedlisky5601 co was tu tyle czechy pieprzone
Sad that the pull race, the Volvo didn't want to change gear.
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The Scania is stronger than the Volvo because the Scania changes gear at 15RPM, but the Volvo and more than that is about 18RPM. the scania💪
I didn't understand, could you elaborate?
@@jeffu73 The scania changes gears sooner then the volvo
Next to renault vs iveco. My two least favorites xD
I never drive them in the game
@@ALPHA-pt4ts in real life magnum ae 560 v8 is the best truck i ever drove.
The Iveco for me 🙋♂️
Wind changed directions
REMATCH !!!
Not fair competition.
And I notice twice that Scania start before Volvo like in 04:20
scania just faster off the line
It's called acceleration lol
Just a game,the reality it's another,trust me,i was a truck driver😉
Yes... I agree... But still volvo is better of the real world
@@wassili7210 but Scania ist more economical
@@animationenusw The new one yes... But strongniss and Durability and guarantee is volvo better
@@wassili7210 I know
I'm still a truck driver, reality is that the Volvo is stronger and faster than a Scania, I'm driving 600 HP model.
Kinda off-topic but i wanna know something. How did you make the Scania's back so sexy? I'm talkin bout huge the V8 sign. Is it modded? I wonder if i can make it in official multiplayer server, it looks soo freakin good.
Hey yeah if course, this is a Scania Tunning Pack called Mighty Griffin Tuning Pack on steam and it works with Multiplayer
store.steampowered.com/app/461244/Euro_Truck_Simulator_2__Mighty_Griffin_Tuning_Pack/
@@TGMStefa Thank you so much, keep up the good content!
try to race it with old volvo :)
FH16 d best!
ThatTruckerGuy вольво дерьмо
💩
@@corleone8943 Yes? But both the old Volvo and the new one is fh16
@@holodok315 это ты дерьмо, в реале, на ручке и мишленовских колёсах, она быстрее и имеет меньший угол, когда грузовик ложится на бок. Ездил на скании и вольво и мне не понравилось, когда со скоростью 140 скания уже переворачивалась, а то время как на вольве я спокойно 150 ехал с грузом.
В тесте водила на вольво на 1500 оборотах переключал передачи, в то время как на скании на 2000 оборотах. Тест не объективный.
Did you know that wheels also affect the max speed ;)?
Especially if you dont have any
sounds like Volvo runs on steampower )))
I had a tip from a real scania driver worked since 1980s , he told me that scania is the best truck because it's the most powerful one especially on hilly road and doesn't coast or body roll like Mercedes actros or Volvo in detours
Volvo is better when it comes to safety features like collision warning or something
we need a new test 2024/25!!!!!!
Do you have MLAA activated? If you play on 400% scaling turn it off, it just makes the picture blurry.
A verdade é que os dois são monstros, Volvo e Scania são os melhores! ❤️
That's a scania s730, tho
Essas imagens são ilustrativa nem motoristas tem isso é um olograma não é um vídeo real por isso que a scania ganhou
@@antoniofeio5304 otario
5:15 you can clearly see the volvo slowing down...
What do you mean?
In most cases the Volvo started off first, but when it came to it the Scania was faster at 61t. Ask any operator and you'll find the real test is which is more economic/less down time.
12 shift scania vs 6 shift volvo?
Scania can't fight against the 12-speed volvo, so that's why you used the 6-speed one.
This race isnt fair, the setting isnt same. Volvo is more faster at high speed than scania
The volvo is in automatic, if you don't know, and the scania too
@@vinikk77 Scania is in ECO mode,Volvo in high power automatic.Scania 730 1000-1350rpm 3500NM on 1900rpm max power unless test bro 😎.
Scania 💪❤
the gearbox of the scania is more quick than the gearbox of volvo because she's more recent
Scania will always be the King of Trucks
Tips for begginer, i you want to buy that strong trucks, you must buy lowest type of that truck, then collect money for buy stronger engine
Example, i bought the lowest type of volvo, the price is about 100k euro, it has engine with power as 600 hp, then i collect money to buy a stronger engine, it has 700 hp
Old Volvo is the fastest truck in the game
witch one do u mean can u say the name from the truck volvo .... ?
C0llegeblock I think he is mentioning the cheapest one which is the FH16 2008 variant I think, its got a decent engine, but definitely not faster than the ones shown
@@gabrielbickner4166 it used to be the fastest truck back in the first couple months of the game and tbh even in these days it's pretty decent and fast but if you Play TruckersMP you will know that speed doesn't matter there as everyone goes 110km max
After watching this, I am considering switching from volvo to scania. Change my mind :P
Volvo drives better. SCS fucked something up with the chassis geometry of the new Scania, it's unstable in every configuration except 4x2. The new Actros and especially the new MAN drive better aswell.
@@jonny2954 I'm driving a Scania S 6x4 for the most part, I don't have any issues with stability...
@@namenamename390 Because you won't notice it without comparison. Drive a Volvo, Mercedes or MAN for a while and switch back to the Scania again, you will have problems with stability. After 400.000+ km on the FH16 the Scania S felt twitchy like a mofo.
@@jonny2954 I drove the new MAN for a few thousand kilometers and had no problem switching back...
@@namenamename390 Then i don't want to encounter you at a two lane road lul
Volvo would win every race if you let a little bit off the gas so it can shift from 4 to 5 gear...
I knooow! Even manual shifting would overcome that looong delay, and Volvo would win EVERY leg
@@SethHappens Yes,definitly Scs should fix this problem,i drive Volvo all the time,i have 200 000 km in my Volvo and i know the problem and i always have to look when its in 4th gear to let the gas a little bit of so it can shift
For me both are winners...I have both and ride on each one alternatively...the editing is just on another level...I almost felt as if it was a real drag race
Why the Volvo isnt painted?
4:20 Volvo drives backward
wow that is a nice video idea and also nice edit too :D Scania looks better :D
Maybe if you shifted the Volvo out of 4th gear it might win???
Hes using high performance automatic mode
But Sacania raced with michelin dlc wheels and Volvo not
Yeah grip is the main problem
I dont think it matters though
On straight highway loaded Volve 750 with around 15-20 tons reaches around 150 kmph where as Scania 730 struggles to reach 140 kmph
Two things wrong with that comparison: 1 Automatic shifting. 2 People who can't drive.
I think Iveco is winner of this comparison
LOL i agree with you :-D
Iveco slow,it rhymes for a reason you know
New man euro 6 640 hp vs old man 680 hp pls :D
We all can say, scandinavian trucks are simply the best
PLEASE answer me!!!!!!! In the Scania, the gearbox was that one (12+2)? If wasn't, wich of those 12 gearbox u used?
Truck brands by speed:
1.Scania
2.Volvo
3.Mercedes-benz
4.MAN
5. DAF
6.IVECO
7.Renault
Note: They used a 6 speed gearbox!
The scania is a beast even in the real life 💓💓 💪
Scania lovers 👍
MAN Euro 6 vs Mercedes New Actros
No.. MAN Euro 6 vs Old MAN
The Allison transmission is not the Volvo truck's native transmission. Try the test again with the Volvo I-shift series.
I found Scania less customizable inside the cabinet, I couldn't put some items that in the Volvo could
Shedding wieght
KKKKK O VOLVO CM GIRO ALTO GRITANDO E O MLK NÃO PASSA MARCHA ! AÍ NÃO DA
Deve ser programado para a Scania ganha!
@@JulioPofc 100% manipulado esse teste, olha na segunda corrida, o volvo trava no 100 km/h enquanto a scania passa subindo a 115km/h, só quem joga de volvo sabe que o caminhao sobe o giro muito rapido
@@pedrorp6164 siim
Roubando é facil msm kkkk quero ver a scania pegar o volvao na subida
Sem falar que no câmbio automático troca de marcha em giro muito baixo perdendo velocidade, eu só troco de marcha quase no fim do azul
150 km/h limited :(
Don't worry Another Multiplayer is Coming ;)
@@Gedvinas God I hope not.
TMP is the best, and will always be the best for truckers who want the real experience. In TMP, you're suppouse to drive exactly like IRL, this isn't a racing game
@@Gedvinas? The real one with ki cars?
In the beginning of game, I will choose Volvo (F16H CLASSIC) because that truck very powerful to haul heavy cargo and its price not too expensive than Scania
Scaniia sounds better imo
Nice video well put together. Thanks for your time and effort 👍
for anyone watching this the volvo would have definetely done alot better but credit to TGM for admitting he made a mistake in the test , why dont you do a retest ? with equal settings now
Yo, did you get that siren by DLC?
Yoo, it's Renault Premium horn ;-)
The volvo is very good but it sometimes depends on how you drive
Of course it's Renault
Ok I'll leave
Thanks guys for making this video, I was really asking myself which one is boss hey.
Much appreciated.
is Scania S the best of the Scania's?