A Hockey Player, Speed skating in full gear, against a 3 time Olympic Gold medalist, and winning. This is why HOCKEY is the GREATEST! sport in the world. Go Av's
Take it easy on the "DO 5 LAPS AND THEN SEE WHO WINS" comments, this was just a fun drill to demonstrate acceleration. Obviously the speed skater has a faster top speed… I for one, had no idea about the comparison between the acceleration of speed skaters vs hockey players. I would have put my money on the speed skater (if it weren't a commercial for ccm lol)
The fact that a hockey player is in full equipment with limited range of motion and has a stick is my reasoning why I would guess the speed skater. And considering how MacKinnon is one of the fastest players in the league and how close the race actually was, it isn't that obvious of a decision.
Accelerating from stop on skates is more like running than skating. I don't think it has much to do with the skates. Sure, the hockey skates have a groove and a rocker which might help , and you don't have to worry about clicking your heels as much, but I think you could do this test with both competitors in sneakers on turf with a similar result.
Exactly. A 5 lap race has nothing to do with acceleration, that's endurance. This short sprint is perfect to measure acceleration. This page is full of people who obviously failed physics because they don't understand what acceleration is...
lol train mckinnon for like 1 month in speed skating and he's better than the gold medalist I bet...... speed skating is so niche you have the best skaters in the world playing hockey, not speed skating. Despite it not being a full race he's also in hockey skates, equipment, and holding a hockey stick. What a joke speed skating is LOL
Pretty impressive. I think we all know who wins a race between them if they go a few laps. Equipment or no equipment. Speed skater wins by a MILE (ask Al Iafrate).That's not what they are demonstrating here though. Just acceleration. Maybe Nathan should take up speed skating? ;)
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epuration1000 Skates make a huge difference. The latest skates have cut the total weight on the foot by about 40%. The blades are sharper (and stay sharp many times longer) than the old skates. And the support pattern of the skate is (finally) in the right places: if you watch MacKinnon, you see there's a very particular flex on his ankle to get the blade of the skate at the right angle to the ice. The skate has to allow this while at the same time being very stiff so the push isn't lost. Putting on these new skates after skating with the older ones is like running in track shoes after trying to run in wooden shoes. Have a look at some video of stars from the 70's to see what bad skates do: even the best skaters then look clumsy and awkward compared to everyone today. Now if only they'd get rid of the stupid swish styling.
Wait, wouldn't logic suggest we use one skater using two models of skates instead of two skaters using drastically different skates? This just screams BS on the part of the company. Next will be skates that tighten your ass when you skate right?
Excuse terminology if incorrect- but Nathan's "foot- turnover rate" or "stride rate" is just scorching. How Charles does it in long blades is amazing too. I also think it''s just as important as the checking gets tighter at playoffs that a skate helps a player remain stable while being checked or grinding...which is what I miss a bit about the ankle support of the older skates. How many Stanley Cup W teams wore Tacks between 1940 and 1980? ....like....all of them? Thx.
acceleration it makes sense Nathan wins because the hockey skates have a much shorter blade, had they skated the full length of the ice would've been a different story
+Joe Schmoe Maybe with a lot of practice. Speedskating and skating in hockey is way different. The stance, the strides etc. Hell, they don't even really crossover when going around a bend, just seems like they lean into it and glide right through.
The comments about this are hilarious. The purpose of short track SPEED skating skates are not to start fast? Really? Did you also miss the part where MacKinnon is in full hockey gear and carrying a stick and is actually pulling away on the fifth stride?
Joe Schmoe when you can skate 1000m in about a minute, then you can jump in and argue. until then, admit you're an idiot, shut up, and let the grown ups talk.
You guys are ignorant for thinking that it's impossible for a top skater in the NHL to be able to compete with a top speed skater, and win. It's a more than valid opinion which is why you don't have any real arguments to back up what you say and all you can do is call me ignorant and cry. As if learning new skating techniques for a professional skater (NHL player) would be difficult. As if he isn't already dealing with the best talent in existence since his sport isn't as focused on skating yet he's the fastest in the league. I can explain my argument, can you, "grown ups?" Don't even get me started on the equipment he's wearing that limits muscle and joint movement, a stick that throws off your balance, and the weight of all that. Let's even ignore that (*!@# cause you still have nothing. Go ahead and name off all the techniques in speed skating and what he'd have to go through. I guarantee he picks them up in a couple weeks and competes with your dude who trained his whole life.
This proves nothing hockey skates are built for acceleration. speed skating skates are built for top speed. It's like putting a turbo charger up against a super charger.
Enan Zaman your a dummy, Nathan McKinnon would get completely lapped and if not maybe they'd be half a lap ahead if he got lucky. He would have to race Koreans,Chinese,Canadians and Americans
At 0:37 "I have 50 lbs of gear on." LMAO this is such BS. I play ice hockey with full padding/contact and if he has 50 lbs of gear on maybe he should consider upgrading out of the Stone Age. And for those who don't think I know what I'm talking about just go online right now to any site, add up the weight for the all the equipment and it's NOWHERE near 50 lbs. If it is, you're doing it wrong.
He Le OK I weigh 50 lbs. and my equipment is half my body weight. He weighs 170 lbs. and his equipment is less than 1/3 of his body weight. Who should be the one bitching? Yeah, you fail.
you realize he was exaggerating the weight to prove a point right? Obviously he doesn't have 50 pounds of gear on, but he has considerably more gear than the other guy. Good thing you proved your 'argument' that wasn't even an argument...
RHCPisLiife If I realized he was obviously exaggerating the weight, would I have made my initial comment? Yeah, you fail also. Especially considering how dumb some athletes are, it wouldn't be surprising for them to actually believe they wear 50 lbs of gear.
Back in 1988 when I was 13, and watching the Winter Olympics every night, I told my friends at the local rink that I'd like to see a straight-line race between the top figure skater, speed skater, and hockey player. We all agreed that the figure skater would come in last, but I was the only one who insisted that the hockey player would win. Everyone else thought it was a given that the speed skater would win. Now that I've seen this video, I'd like to go back to the rink to gloat but none of them would be there to hear me.
TheModerNizer I think it's funny that you ignore their skating ability. You go straight to the type of skates because the gold medalist is losing to an NHL player. I guarantee there are at least 5-10 NHL players who would beat the gold medalist of short track speed skating in the right equipment and with about a month of training. This makes speed skating look like a joke, because it is.
hockey blades are better for accelerating, but noone can accelerate all the tim, he'd lose speed when he stopped accelerating while short tracker would lose no speed and eventually win
Bottom line MacKinnon won this race fair and square...Also this was just a Blue line to Blue line sprint which is only 50' which is a little over 15M. Of course Hammelin would win if they had to race around the ice.
These comments are annoying. Why can't you just be impressed with someone out-accelerating an Olympic speed skater? Of course the speed skater would do better over the long haul, that is known, understood, and accepted by all. Damn, haters every damn where.
некорректное сравнение, разные типы коньков и короткая дистанция, хоккейные коньки хороши для быстрых рывков и старта, а у аппонента беговые для поддержания большой скорости на больших расстояниях
Speed skating skate are not creatd to go fast right from the gate. No surprise there.. Put them against for let's say 2 or 3 laps, and then we can compare!!!
Well then you could say being in full hockey gear isn't mean to go 2-3 laps like speed skating skaters do... either way it was just a fun drill I think.
all this shows is how much of a joke speed skaters are because hockey players can keep up with a gold medalist in full gear lol. His leg movement is what matters when he's skating so slap the right equipment on him and the gold medalist loses. Don't agree? Explain why (you can't)
Joe Schmoe your an idiot it's 2.5 seconds and it's not even a damn distance in short track and If Charles Hamelin raced a 500m he would crush that dumb hockey player. If you watch the full lap video, Charles Hamelin crushed the hockey player and if it was a 1000m or 1500m, Charles would probably lap that dunce
Tom ! Shut the hell up 2.5 seconds isn't even a real distance, if you watch the actual lap video. That stupid hockey player gets beat by 1and a half seconds which is huge in an actual race. And you dumb hockey players would get lapped in a 1000 or 1500m because you guys have no brains for strategy. So hockey is a dumb arrogant sport for dunces that aren't good at anything else
MacKinnon and Duchene on the same team is an unfair amount of speed ;)
I read Hagelin and was so pumped...
A Hockey Player, Speed skating in full gear, against a 3 time Olympic Gold medalist, and winning.
This is why HOCKEY is the GREATEST! sport in the world.
Go Av's
Take it easy on the "DO 5 LAPS AND THEN SEE WHO WINS" comments, this was just a fun drill to demonstrate acceleration. Obviously the speed skater has a faster top speed… I for one, had no idea about the comparison between the acceleration of speed skaters vs hockey players. I would have put my money on the speed skater (if it weren't a commercial for ccm lol)
The fact that a hockey player is in full equipment with limited range of motion and has a stick is my reasoning why I would guess the speed skater. And considering how MacKinnon is one of the fastest players in the league and how close the race actually was, it isn't that obvious of a decision.
Accelerating from stop on skates is more like running than skating. I don't think it has much to do with the skates. Sure, the hockey skates have a groove and a rocker which might help , and you don't have to worry about clicking your heels as much, but I think you could do this test with both competitors in sneakers on turf with a similar result.
Exactly. A 5 lap race has nothing to do with acceleration, that's endurance. This short sprint is perfect to measure acceleration. This page is full of people who obviously failed physics because they don't understand what acceleration is...
lol train mckinnon for like 1 month in speed skating and he's better than the gold medalist I bet...... speed skating is so niche you have the best skaters in the world playing hockey, not speed skating. Despite it not being a full race he's also in hockey skates, equipment, and holding a hockey stick. What a joke speed skating is LOL
I skate both, no problem in 5 laps, hockey skater is much faster. Try 10 laps...
Probably it's not the skates, it's the guy :), skates are OK though.
I fully agree, put MacKinnon in any top of the line skate and it's the same result.
great video, mackinnon kills it in the take off, great player, great skate.
2:03 "I had maybe a little bit better erection at the start, but his erection was way too fast for me."
lmao i heard erection at first too...
Aren't speed skates built for speed not accelleration? Having a blade 3-4" longer is gonna make them harder to get giong off the line.
Pretty impressive. I think we all know who wins a race between them if they go a few laps. Equipment or no equipment. Speed skater wins by a MILE (ask Al Iafrate).That's not what they are demonstrating here though. Just acceleration. Maybe Nathan should take up speed skating? ;)
what I wanted to see was Duchene vs MacKinnon!!!!!
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I would gratefully challenge you to a dirt nap contest (a sport that requires you to get off your ass.) I would even allow you to prey to your sister before the match (not that it would do you any good)
Please say your kidding these guys would kill you in starcraft 2
curtyuiop He's trolling. Please don't bite for that little kid. It gives him too much satisfaction in his miserable life.
sc2 was easy, owned all asians
Hamelin did surprisingly well considering his skates put him at a pretty huge disadvantage in terms of acceleration.
People seems to forget one thing..its a ad. So it could also be fake... Maybe Hamelin was aware that Mackinnon needed to win to show how good CCM is..
no, it is much harder to do a fast start in speed skates, however the top speed you can get to is not even in the same league.
epuration1000 So in other words, ANY hockey skates would have given MacKinnon the advantage in this test, making the ad a crock of course, lol.
***** I never said it was fake. I said it could be.
***** honestly, the skates would make little diffrence as long as they are fit and sharp.
epuration1000 Skates make a huge difference. The latest skates have cut the total weight on the foot by about 40%. The blades are sharper (and stay sharp many times longer) than the old skates. And the support pattern of the skate is (finally) in the right places: if you watch MacKinnon, you see there's a very particular flex on his ankle to get the blade of the skate at the right angle to the ice. The skate has to allow this while at the same time being very stiff so the push isn't lost.
Putting on these new skates after skating with the older ones is like running in track shoes after trying to run in wooden shoes. Have a look at some video of stars from the 70's to see what bad skates do: even the best skaters then look clumsy and awkward compared to everyone today.
Now if only they'd get rid of the stupid swish styling.
Wait, wouldn't logic suggest we use one skater using two models of skates instead of two skaters using drastically different skates? This just screams BS on the part of the company. Next will be skates that tighten your ass when you skate right?
This was at my home rink!
I don't know if we can really rely on the results of this funny competition :-)
But I bought the tacks and they are the best thing I ever tried!!!!
whats that song about 2:10?
Damn I knew mac was fast but that's amazing...
Excuse terminology if incorrect- but Nathan's "foot- turnover rate" or "stride rate" is just scorching. How Charles does it in long blades is amazing too. I also think it''s just as important as the checking gets tighter at playoffs that a skate helps a player remain stable while being checked or grinding...which is what I miss a bit about the ankle support of the older skates. How many Stanley Cup W teams wore Tacks between 1940 and 1980? ....like....all of them? Thx.
Awesome, InstaPhamous really does deliver!
They should of done a whole lap around the rink and see the result.
acceleration it makes sense Nathan wins because the hockey skates have a much shorter blade, had they skated the full length of the ice would've been a different story
which is unfortunately because with the right skates mackinnon would probably beat him and he's the gold medalist of this so called "sport" lmao
opinions are allowed in the universe, you can think what you want also, crazy how that works
+Joe Schmoe Maybe with a lot of practice. Speedskating and skating in hockey is way different. The stance, the strides etc. Hell, they don't even really crossover when going around a bend, just seems like they lean into it and glide right through.
The comments about this are hilarious. The purpose of short track SPEED skating skates are not to start fast? Really? Did you also miss the part where MacKinnon is in full hockey gear and carrying a stick and is actually pulling away on the fifth stride?
what's hilarious is how unbelievably ignorant you are
TheModerNizer but overall Mackinnon would likely win because he's a better skater and speed skaters are washed up hockey players
that's all you can say cause you know it's true haha, can't explain anything just call people ignorant lawl
Joe Schmoe when you can skate 1000m in about a minute, then you can jump in and argue. until then, admit you're an idiot, shut up, and let the grown ups talk.
You guys are ignorant for thinking that it's impossible for a top skater in the NHL to be able to compete with a top speed skater, and win. It's a more than valid opinion which is why you don't have any real arguments to back up what you say and all you can do is call me ignorant and cry.
As if learning new skating techniques for a professional skater (NHL player) would be difficult. As if he isn't already dealing with the best talent in existence since his sport isn't as focused on skating yet he's the fastest in the league. I can explain my argument, can you, "grown ups?" Don't even get me started on the equipment he's wearing that limits muscle and joint movement, a stick that throws off your balance, and the weight of all that. Let's even ignore that (*!@# cause you still have nothing. Go ahead and name off all the techniques in speed skating and what he'd have to go through. I guarantee he picks them up in a couple weeks and competes with your dude who trained his whole life.
@jarvis Wellington
This proves nothing hockey skates are built for acceleration. speed skating skates are built for top speed. It's like putting a turbo charger up against a super charger.
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This exactly proves that.
That's my point idiot . Hockey skates are made for acceleration speed skating skates are not their made for top speed.
+BiG420ToMaTo420BuDs Acceleration and agility! Won't see someone in speedskates doing tight turns or pivots when striding at full pace! :D
Listen to the speed skater at the end. He was impressed. Think he hasn't seen guys on hockey skates before?
Mac is a rocket
There's a reason Hamelin chose speed skating over Hockey.... This video proves it!
I guess MacKinnon should speed skate for Canada at 2018 Olympics. .... SIKE
Enan Zaman your a dummy, Nathan McKinnon would get completely lapped and if not maybe they'd be half a lap ahead if he got lucky. He would have to race Koreans,Chinese,Canadians and Americans
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"F" all the haters! "The Kid's" the real deal! Plus that dirty style skate lace belt on the breezers. heck yeah!
Okay, now put both in a speed skater suit and the same ccm tack skates.
As soon as the speed skater gets around the turn mackinnon is done
if they changed skates, byloby interesting
At 0:37 "I have 50 lbs of gear on." LMAO this is such BS. I play ice hockey with full padding/contact and if he has 50 lbs of gear on maybe he should consider upgrading out of the Stone Age. And for those who don't think I know what I'm talking about just go online right now to any site, add up the weight for the all the equipment and it's NOWHERE near 50 lbs. If it is, you're doing it wrong.
maybe its because you only weigh 50 lbs
He Le OK I weigh 50 lbs. and my equipment is half my body weight. He weighs 170 lbs. and his equipment is less than 1/3 of his body weight. Who should be the one bitching? Yeah, you fail.
you realize he was exaggerating the weight to prove a point right? Obviously he doesn't have 50 pounds of gear on, but he has considerably more gear than the other guy.
Good thing you proved your 'argument' that wasn't even an argument...
RHCPisLiife If I realized he was obviously exaggerating the weight, would I have made my initial comment? Yeah, you fail also. Especially considering how dumb some athletes are, it wouldn't be surprising for them to actually believe they wear 50 lbs of gear.
apparently you dont understand exaggeration...
The tacks are obviously faster with the hockey player wearing 10 lbs of gear and out weighing the speed skater by 40 lbs.
McDavid
Back in 1988 when I was 13, and watching the Winter Olympics every night, I told my friends at the local rink that I'd like to see a straight-line race between the top figure skater, speed skater, and hockey player. We all agreed that the figure skater would come in last, but I was the only one who insisted that the hockey player would win. Everyone else thought it was a given that the speed skater would win. Now that I've seen this video, I'd like to go back to the rink to gloat but none of them would be there to hear me.
do a full lap and see who wins
MacKinnon is in full hockey gear lol. This was an acceleration drill... but I mean it still is impressive.
TheModerNizer I think it's funny that you ignore their skating ability. You go straight to the type of skates because the gold medalist is losing to an NHL player. I guarantee there are at least 5-10 NHL players who would beat the gold medalist of short track speed skating in the right equipment and with about a month of training. This makes speed skating look like a joke, because it is.
Go into the corner...and see who comes out with the puck ;)
now do a full lap
true.
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hockey blades are better for accelerating, but noone can accelerate all the tim, he'd lose speed when he stopped accelerating while short tracker would lose no speed and eventually win
Good thing in the description it says "ACCELERATION TEST."
PerfectedGaming ikr
Bottom line MacKinnon won this race fair and square...Also this was just a Blue line to Blue line sprint which is only 50' which is a little over 15M. Of course Hammelin would win if they had to race around the ice.
These comments are annoying. Why can't you just be impressed with someone out-accelerating an Olympic speed skater? Of course the speed skater would do better over the long haul, that is known, understood, and accepted by all.
Damn, haters every damn where.
2 time world champion????????????????????????????????????????
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некорректное сравнение, разные типы коньков и короткая дистанция, хоккейные коньки хороши для быстрых рывков и старта, а у аппонента беговые для поддержания большой скорости на больших расстояниях
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Good marketing, but terrible comparison.
Speed skating skate are not creatd to go fast right from the gate. No surprise there.. Put them against for let's say 2 or 3 laps, and then we can compare!!!
Well then you could say being in full hockey gear isn't mean to go 2-3 laps like speed skating skaters do... either way it was just a fun drill I think.
all this shows is how much of a joke speed skaters are because hockey players can keep up with a gold medalist in full gear lol. His leg movement is what matters when he's skating so slap the right equipment on him and the gold medalist loses. Don't agree? Explain why (you can't)
Joe Schmoe your an idiot it's 2.5 seconds and it's not even a damn distance in short track and If Charles Hamelin raced a 500m he would crush that dumb hockey player. If you watch the full lap video, Charles Hamelin crushed the hockey player and if it was a 1000m or 1500m, Charles would probably lap that dunce
Neithan Thomas hey at least I used logic in my argument
Mcdavid is faster then both of them
Туфта какая то. Чёт не вериться.
what a sore loser, I heard him start before me and his skates sounded very annoying and that stressed me out? smh
he was talking about the warms ups.
Skates, training and talent aside. There are a lot of butt-hurt speed-skating fans commenting on this video. Hamelin lost, go cry about it more.
Tom ! Shut the hell up 2.5 seconds isn't even a real distance, if you watch the actual lap video. That stupid hockey player gets beat by 1and a half seconds which is huge in an actual race. And you dumb hockey players would get lapped in a 1000 or 1500m because you guys have no brains for strategy. So hockey is a dumb arrogant sport for dunces that aren't good at anything else
Neithan Thomas oh man, how bad did you get bullied by hockey players? you gotta deal with your anger issues bro