There's almost nothing that's truly futuristic anymore. The future is cancelled, and the past twenty years have just been nailing the lid of the coffin on. The best we can manage these days is hauntology; retro-futurism. Grimes' music essentially could have come out before she was born.
Watched at Glastonbury in 97, some tent, in a field somewhere on planet earth apparently. Body was there, mind wasn't. Still the best live set I ever witnessed 👍
I remember seeing his live performances on tv. (Im american.lol) and thinking "this is what its like"...then digging more. I learned, the performances, the group, were NEVER done like this and this is unique and special. Fuckers set the bar. And rarely had it been met. This record influenced me more than i realized. I remember it randomly and i havent heard it in over 10 years. Listened to new forms last night. God damn...i remember the inspiration that flew out of my speakers and into my brain. Whats great about these songs.. The dance the line of complex and understood. You can dismantle sone of the tracks. Part by part. Then they switch it up to "how did they..." Shit was accessible and pushed the line of unreal. Fucking love it.
american also, picked up New Forms in high school from a used CD shop, huge influence on me. I knew it was largely sample-based, but what I never appreciated until I found this was that the dude actually assembled a band.
if you want to look in a slightly different direction, check out Philly rapper Bahamadia, who did that amazing cut up flow on "New Forms." She's really good.
@@pulseczar42 _New_ _Forms_ was never sample-based tho, unlike the vast majority of dnb. That's part of what made it such an exciting, unique, and human album. The same guys seen playing the drums and bass live here actually recorded their parts in a studio for the album. Si and Clive are fantastically talented. New Forms (alongside Adam F, who was doing similar things with _Circles_ at the same time) was a groundbreaking template for dnb as "real" instrumental band music that could actually be played live. They prefigured Pendulum's live era shift by a decade. Prophetic, prescient album. It is really cool to hear about Americans experiencing dnb in the '90s though, when it was, as a phenomenon, overwhelmingly still confined to its British homeland. I suppose it makes sense that _New_ _Forms_ spread, even if the genre didn't, since that album in particular became a media and critical darling, But I'm still somewhat surprised both of you were able to randomly find it in a US record store at that time!
@@sheilaburrowes9081 That's interesting, thanks. I had the impression that the musicians recorded takes in studio, then RS sampled and looped from there. I believe Portishead did something similar, cutting their own vinyls which were then used in the live performances. Amon Tobin has also worked this way I think? I'll check out Adam F, sounds familiar. Cheers.
@@pulseczar42 Oh okay, you're not far off the mark then. It's somewhere in the middle, in my understanding. I've read that they did loop _some_ amount of the drums and bass (and other instrumentation) but not to the extent that most electronic acts (like Pendulum, for example) do it, where they go into the studio with an instrumentalist, like, say, a drummer, and just get him to do a bunch of single hits -- and maybe a few four bar perc loops if they're feeling ambitious. And then they lay those beats down as quantised samples, thus losing most of the value of a human performing the actions in the first place. I think RS recorded entire phrases to capture all of the slight variations in e.g. the bass loop each time. That, to me, is more than mere sampling, but it still will've been more systematised than a "real" band going in and playing a full song (albeit with separated instruments) -- though I'm not sure how often they even do that anymore. It's probably a bunch of phrase-by-phrase repetition and punch-ins. Man, it's a far cry from back in the '70s when when huge artists like Status Quo were releasing amazing albums (a world class album every year from '71 to '76 inclusive is just an incredible workrate) recorded with the whole band playing in the same room at the same time, with only slight post overdubbing. It created a ton of mixing and mastering problems, as you can imagine, with loads of bleed over between mics, but those processes weren't terribly advanced yet anyway and it created fascinating dynamics that you can't get any other way (and for Quo specifically, that was a huge part of their proto-punk sound). Amazing coincidence that you mentioned Portishead, btw, since the drummer here (Clive forget-his-second-name) also did a bunch of work with them, including _Dummy_ of all things. IDK if you knew that already and that's why you were using them as an example but if not, that's an awesome coincidence. As for Adam F, he was another visionary producer doing stuff in that jazzy, V Recordings style (in combination with an avid interest in hip hop techniques) before becoming a lot more commercial, as most of them did, in the '00s. Essential tracks include "Brand New Funk", which IIRC he performed with a full band, like RS, back in the late '90s. Bizarrely, like this RS performance, a lot of the live stuff is super-obscure and hard to find (except even more so since Adam F didn't have a media darling, Mercury Prize-winning album behind him). Edit: I just realised that the "Brand New Funk" single was actually _on_ V Recordings, so I guess it really was part of their sound. If you're ever looking for more dnb in that sort of style, that would be the label to check out. Some of the more modern stuff, despite lacking the human touch, is still phenomenal, like Savage Rehab's little-known gem "Walk the Bass" (well worth checking out as another double bass riff-heavy tune; if you do, let me know what you think!). Take care, mate. :)
This is sooo good. Clive Deamer, amazing drummer. Altough Jungle/DnB wasn't brand new in 97 anymore, the cool thing about that era was that you had the feeling of actually witnessing the creation of new sounds, different scenes melting together while even the mainstream acknowledging it pretty much in real time (instead of being 5-10 years too late as usual :-)
Saw Roni Size live at Alexandra Palace on New Years 97, it was absolutely mind blowing. Incredible times, all the jungle and DNB heads back then we’re ahead of the game. Met Roni a few times at Movement at Bar Rumba, always safe as, proper gent. And to think we did all that without iPhones, likes and the internet 😁😁😁
I remember You had to wait up till 12 O Clock to watch this. It was Brilliant and look at the Equipment they were using. And those Computers as well. Amazing at the time. Roni Did Reprazent as well.
I remember seeing this on TV, late at night. I'd never heard live drum and bass before and was totally blown away. Amazed to find it on here. Thank you
I recall this simul-broadcast like it was yesterday. I’d heard about Roni through a friend in Bristol. I was about to head to bed and I heard this..... then.... I saw it.... musical epiphany is a fucking understatement.
Thanks for uploading it in the first place! It's crazy how you've found it once again after all this time. Edit - or maybe 4+ years ago. Hope you're good
LOL, I was listening to this album on the way home from work today. Volume all the way up, windows all the way down. The first time I heard this album was 2002 and I've listened to it ever since then. Much love.
jaw dropped to the ground, heart's on fire, body be movin', I've seen this like a few times now and still everytime I come back to check it out the whole thing straight slaps me in my face so hard I just sit here almost crying of joy thinking to myself ... how could these people bring this to life just like that ?!?! this shit is incredible, no words can express really ... talkin' 'bout the power of music.
RIP Danny G..DJ Chillim, I still listen to this with our daughters remember dancing round the living room on this night love and miss you Jungalist soilder forever✌1 love J x
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I used to busk sax in Bristol and Ronnie stopped by an invited me to come and record stuff. But I was cynical about street guys embroiling me into tedious afternoons where nothing happened but time wasting, so I said yes ok £40 per hour. And he never contacted me. Year later, 97 he won Mercury Music Prize. And I sailed off alone to west Africa, glad I outpriced him!
Thanks for upping this! I have this on audio cassette, as it was broadcast on radio 1 at the same time if i remember right??...but not seen the video since 97...cheers!
New Forms one of the greatest albums of all time, regardless of the genre
Agreed bro..still fresh
No doubt !!
I am so fortunate to have caught it live in hollywood once !!
On sunset blvd baby !!!
Word!
100% I am a 50+ with very eclectic tastes. I could quite easily listen to this and Nick Drake in the same sitting
@@madontherun I may try that next week..
That drummer working hard. Props~!
Clive Deamer
He'd be the only one
I was going to ask if that was him. that's amazing!!
22 years later and this is still so bloody exciting to watch
Make dat 23 and fine wine
...and 24 years later and still bloody exciting to watch and listen ;) Roni Size is the King of dnb...for ever ;))
So real!
Sim sim sim 😌😌😌
..... and still exciting!
I remember watching this live (I think maybe 14 or 15 years old?) and it just blew my mind! For me, this was the best era for music.
I just stumbled upon this! I miss the 90's so much! Lol
I was there too , jazz stage ❤️
Just an awesome collective! futuristic as hell, even 20 years ago!
There's almost nothing that's truly futuristic anymore. The future is cancelled, and the past twenty years have just been nailing the lid of the coffin on. The best we can manage these days is hauntology; retro-futurism. Grimes' music essentially could have come out before she was born.
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love the setup with the green monochrome CRTs. for the samplers I guess.
Watched at Glastonbury in 97, some tent, in a field somewhere on planet earth apparently. Body was there, mind wasn't. Still the best live set I ever witnessed 👍
It was so cool to see and meet Roni Size in Chicago in the late 90’s...people lost their minds that night!! Truly unforgettable
A quarter of a century later this performance and the album it comes from is still fresh and exciting.
I remember seeing his live performances on tv. (Im american.lol) and thinking "this is what its like"...then digging more. I learned, the performances, the group, were NEVER done like this and this is unique and special. Fuckers set the bar. And rarely had it been met. This record influenced me more than i realized. I remember it randomly and i havent heard it in over 10 years. Listened to new forms last night. God damn...i remember the inspiration that flew out of my speakers and into my brain. Whats great about these songs.. The dance the line of complex and understood. You can dismantle sone of the tracks. Part by part. Then they switch it up to "how did they..." Shit was accessible and pushed the line of unreal. Fucking love it.
american also, picked up New Forms in high school from a used CD shop, huge influence on me. I knew it was largely sample-based, but what I never appreciated until I found this was that the dude actually assembled a band.
if you want to look in a slightly different direction, check out Philly rapper Bahamadia, who did that amazing cut up flow on "New Forms." She's really good.
@@pulseczar42 _New_ _Forms_ was never sample-based tho, unlike the vast majority of dnb. That's part of what made it such an exciting, unique, and human album. The same guys seen playing the drums and bass live here actually recorded their parts in a studio for the album. Si and Clive are fantastically talented. New Forms (alongside Adam F, who was doing similar things with _Circles_ at the same time) was a groundbreaking template for dnb as "real" instrumental band music that could actually be played live. They prefigured Pendulum's live era shift by a decade. Prophetic, prescient album.
It is really cool to hear about Americans experiencing dnb in the '90s though, when it was, as a phenomenon, overwhelmingly still confined to its British homeland. I suppose it makes sense that _New_ _Forms_ spread, even if the genre didn't, since that album in particular became a media and critical darling, But I'm still somewhat surprised both of you were able to randomly find it in a US record store at that time!
@@sheilaburrowes9081 That's interesting, thanks. I had the impression that the musicians recorded takes in studio, then RS sampled and looped from there. I believe Portishead did something similar, cutting their own vinyls which were then used in the live performances. Amon Tobin has also worked this way I think?
I'll check out Adam F, sounds familiar. Cheers.
@@pulseczar42 Oh okay, you're not far off the mark then. It's somewhere in the middle, in my understanding. I've read that they did loop _some_ amount of the drums and bass (and other instrumentation) but not to the extent that most electronic acts (like Pendulum, for example) do it, where they go into the studio with an instrumentalist, like, say, a drummer, and just get him to do a bunch of single hits -- and maybe a few four bar perc loops if they're feeling ambitious. And then they lay those beats down as quantised samples, thus losing most of the value of a human performing the actions in the first place. I think RS recorded entire phrases to capture all of the slight variations in e.g. the bass loop each time. That, to me, is more than mere sampling, but it still will've been more systematised than a "real" band going in and playing a full song (albeit with separated instruments) -- though I'm not sure how often they even do that anymore. It's probably a bunch of phrase-by-phrase repetition and punch-ins. Man, it's a far cry from back in the '70s when when huge artists like Status Quo were releasing amazing albums (a world class album every year from '71 to '76 inclusive is just an incredible workrate) recorded with the whole band playing in the same room at the same time, with only slight post overdubbing. It created a ton of mixing and mastering problems, as you can imagine, with loads of bleed over between mics, but those processes weren't terribly advanced yet anyway and it created fascinating dynamics that you can't get any other way (and for Quo specifically, that was a huge part of their proto-punk sound).
Amazing coincidence that you mentioned Portishead, btw, since the drummer here (Clive forget-his-second-name) also did a bunch of work with them, including _Dummy_ of all things. IDK if you knew that already and that's why you were using them as an example but if not, that's an awesome coincidence.
As for Adam F, he was another visionary producer doing stuff in that jazzy, V Recordings style (in combination with an avid interest in hip hop techniques) before becoming a lot more commercial, as most of them did, in the '00s. Essential tracks include "Brand New Funk", which IIRC he performed with a full band, like RS, back in the late '90s. Bizarrely, like this RS performance, a lot of the live stuff is super-obscure and hard to find (except even more so since Adam F didn't have a media darling, Mercury Prize-winning album behind him). Edit: I just realised that the "Brand New Funk" single was actually _on_ V Recordings, so I guess it really was part of their sound. If you're ever looking for more dnb in that sort of style, that would be the label to check out. Some of the more modern stuff, despite lacking the human touch, is still phenomenal, like Savage Rehab's little-known gem "Walk the Bass" (well worth checking out as another double bass riff-heavy tune; if you do, let me know what you think!).
Take care, mate. :)
This is sooo good.
Clive Deamer, amazing drummer.
Altough Jungle/DnB wasn't brand new in 97 anymore, the cool thing about that era was that you had the feeling of actually witnessing the creation of new sounds, different scenes melting together while even the mainstream acknowledging it pretty much in real time (instead of being 5-10 years too late as usual :-)
Totally !!
I was there !!!! ❤️
Saw Roni Size live at Alexandra Palace on New Years 97, it was absolutely mind blowing. Incredible times, all the jungle and DNB heads back then we’re ahead of the game. Met Roni a few times at Movement at Bar Rumba, always safe as, proper gent. And to think we did all that without iPhones, likes and the internet 😁😁😁
I remember You had to wait up till 12 O Clock to watch this. It was Brilliant and look at the Equipment they were using. And those Computers as well. Amazing at the time. Roni Did Reprazent as well.
Really is a work of art this. Visually and musically.
I remember watching these guys live at Leeds Met. One of the best Concerts I've ever been to.
I remember seeing this on TV, late at night. I'd never heard live drum and bass before and was totally blown away. Amazed to find it on here. Thank you
I went to Coachella specifically to see Roni and Reprezent do their thing live. Adam Freeland and Kruder+Dorfmeister DJ sets were pretty memorable too
The bassist reminds me of Keith Flynt RIP.
My word this is brilliant......
I recall this simul-broadcast like it was yesterday. I’d heard about Roni through a friend in Bristol. I was about to head to bed and I heard this..... then.... I saw it.... musical epiphany is a fucking understatement.
This was my vhs rip i uploaded back in 2008 to a dnb forum.
as if its still about.
Thanks for uploading it in the first place! It's crazy how you've found it once again after all this time.
Edit - or maybe 4+ years ago.
Hope you're good
LOL, I was listening to this album on the way home from work today. Volume all the way up, windows all the way down. The first time I heard this album was 2002 and I've listened to it ever since then. Much love.
The inventors of drum and bass and still no one does it better
Goldie just entered the chat !!
Remember this well.Reprazentin for all the Bristol DnB massive!💥💥
God i remember watching this, still brilliant. Nothing like hearing a live D'n'B band - Fantastic.
still sounds so fresh, so good. 90s music lives strong in my heart.
I taped this on VHS when it was on BBC.i watched it so many times.think iv still got it somewhere.
Yes, but have you gotta player still??😮
And that was in 1997, nearly twenty years ago. Sort of becoming a classic now.
2020 Still holds up!!!
Bitelo; greetings from Brazil!
Stunning old school 🤩
I watched Roni Size in a tent at Blue Dot a couple of years ago. It was a tent on fire.
jaw dropped to the ground, heart's on fire, body be movin', I've seen this like a few times now and still everytime I come back to check it out the whole thing straight slaps me in my face so hard I just sit here almost crying of joy thinking to myself ... how could these people bring this to life just like that ?!?! this shit is incredible, no words can express really ... talkin' 'bout the power of music.
oh man i miss this sound bring it back now please
this is a mad scientists lab !! very fascinating and breathtaking !
I remember watching this live, on BBC2 I think. It made a lasting impression.
RIP Danny G..DJ Chillim, I still listen to this with our daughters remember dancing round the living room on this night love and miss you Jungalist soilder forever✌1 love J x
Thank you for this upload ❤️
Sonido oscuro y misterioso, los años 90s en su máxima expresión de creatividad y misticismo.
Amazing, to see/ hear this live set!!!
Brings back some sweet memorys.
I thank you so much, for uploadin this.
Fire !
10:53, Bassist lovin the attention a little to much! Missed the drop to G lol.
Great music, never seen this footage before thanks for putting it up.
This is still so great, thanks for sharing. Truly innovative Roni. Also Dymamite best MC ever!
was staying in a recordstore, listen to this crazy sound comming out the speakers... I was like rooted to this spot...
Met him many times when I worked for Lakota in Bristol, always a gent and no crowd around him as you get with other artists.
Brilliance..
Timeless classic.
Watched this at the time of first broadcast - never seen it since until now. Thanks for the upload 👊🏼
sick!
LOOK AT THAT AMAZING SETUP!
I remember watching this live
Hella 90's. Puts a big smile on my face
Fuck Yeah!! go Clive go
Lo ubicación geográfica y la percepción del tiempo están estrechamente relacionadas. Incluso esto puede ser el futuro para muchas personas. Welcome back to The future.
That one sound ever,no more!
English drumm and bass...eeeeeeeeeèeèya
Wwhaaaatttt!!! Loving this.
There is so much s p a c e
They were rocking it hard.
Big up Si John Bristol masssiiiiivvvvveee
@moschops98 Yeah that's how I first saw Clive Deamer as well (NYC live video). He must have been quite the go-to guy in Bristol back then...
Great I found this , I saw this on the tv still talk about it now , this is talent , ok off to find my RS CD's
I used to busk sax in Bristol and Ronnie stopped by an invited me to come and record stuff. But I was cynical about street guys embroiling me into tedious afternoons where nothing happened but time wasting, so I said yes ok £40 per hour. And he never contacted me.
Year later, 97 he won Mercury Music Prize. And I sailed off alone to west Africa, glad I outpriced him!
This is EPIC! 😮
These guys were so inventive 🤘
Quincy Jones Soul Bossa Nova
absolute madness ting the whole setup is live
Excellent.. Haven't seen this since the live broadcast... Going to enjoy this.... Again... Cheers for the upload .. Nice 1....
Just saw this; thanks for uploading. I saw them live in Vancouver in 98 or 99 and they blew me away.
5:46 ЭЛТ мониторы!! и звуковое железо!! и настоящий контрабас!!!! ээх, было время.
а щас дрочат мозг интенсивностью, мощностью, и хаотичностью ритма. спасибо, кто прочитал, я пёрднул
+Shred Xorn держи краба ;)
Briswstol Represent.👍
Has stood the test of time and sounds better than anything that is released now and the last ten or so years
Goosebumps (drug free flavour) Class
These are masters of drum and bass listen
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im loving those monitors. just gives it that little extra :D
Share the Fall ... classic.
legendary,had this on vcr long time ago!!!thanks so much for upload
90’s technical difficulties , today all they need is a laptop xD
!!
Wicked. Takes me back.
I miss the good old 90s
Amazingly..way
Before anything..
21 yrs ago!!!!!!!
Incredible set, nice work on the upload.
top music yesssss
WHERE I CAN BUY A DVD OF THIS FANTASTIC, BRILLIANT, RAPRESENTATIV LIVE PERF?
+DottorHZ if you find out let us know
Of course!
Dopeasfuc
I think the drummer played drums for Portishead......
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indeed. Clive Deamer the man
Yes and Radiohead later on
That sound...Never goes again.Before NEW!🕊
cheers pal. this takes me back !!!
1 of it not the first main stream DnB artist, quality stuff :)
I met him at once in tokyo.so cool.
The future was then..
2021 from argentina
Thanks for upping this! I have this on audio cassette, as it was broadcast on radio 1 at the same time if i remember right??...but not seen the video since 97...cheers!
Épico
Amazing, ty for upload.
fresh
the future was there!
I miss the freshness and good selection of drum n bass sounds from this era ! Now I cannot even distinguish who's playing, they all sound the same.