I have the original Tip and the lack of a lockout mode was a big deal because it constantly turned on in my pocket. I have had the Tip 2 for several months now and despite never using the demo mode I haven’t had it inadvertently turn on in my pocket. So I don’t see a strong need for a lockout. The only thing I dislike about the Tip 2 is the several seconds it takes to turn on the light, which is the trade off for not having it turn on in my pocket.
Just picked up a Nitecore Tini.. only 350 Lumens but got a copper one for less than $30 (roughly $25 for standard) and much smaller. Great compact light to have on you at all times.
I can live with the demo mode as a substitute for lockout but I hate that 3 second delay when you turn it on. They should give it a real lockout and get rid of the stupid delay.
My biggest problem with this light is it’s lack of moisture resistance. No lockout is also problematic. I own two of the first edition and love the size, output levels and run time. Started wearing them on a neck chain to avoid unwanted activation in pocket, but when doing yard work, sweat was enough to disable it. Fix those 2 things and it’s well worth the cost.
I generally like having a disco mode. Not for tactical reasons, but for "hey, it's a dark street and you're a fast car don't hit me" reasons. Good for when you're not carrying a bike light.
The magnets were a good idea, perhaps implemented poorly. I EDC a TIP 1 and have attached a fishing net magnet to it and one to a carabiner. It goes on a outside belt loop. I can pull the light off easily and attach it back without looking. This has proven to be very beneficial for me. As I often have to crawl in tight spaces moving cable and whatnot. However with the TIP2 when I try to reattach the light back to the cap I have to be exact with it. It can easily misalign when reattaching, especially if you are doing it by feel. I had high hopes for the TIP 2, improved lumen output but sadly it does not function well (attaching / reattaching) for me. And yes I realize I am using in circumstances that most don't encounter. And no a headlamp does not work out as well for me. So I have a TiP 2 but don't EDC it.
12:59 I strongly suspect that Nitecore doesn't include a lockout mode in order to keep customers from returning lights as "broken" when they don't RTFM. A quick Google search shows that this is already true of the "demo mode" - people see the light turn off after 30 seconds, and they freak out because they think the light doesn't work.
Nick, regarding comparing this form factor with the standard round tube w/replacable battery: I bought a similar MecArmy SGN5 which I liked initially. But after 18 months the battery has crapped out and I discover that the battery connection is soldered to the battery. (The battery is the size and shape of a nickle.) It is not user changable and the jeweler I took it to wanted no part of a redo. My question:. Is the battery on your review model replacable by the customer? If not, it's a disposable flashlight. It's a reasonable point buyers should want to know.
One day in the future, some kid with too much time on their hands will go through Nick's entire video library and catalogue ten thousand instances of him exclaiming, "10 000 LUMENS!!!" and stitch together a supercut.
I have a nitecore tip 2 flashlight ’ I bought it 2 years ago’. Build quality is a excellent’. Super reliable’ and useful’. I disagree with neck i I believe location of magnet is correct’. For example if you have a flat tire you can stick the flashlight to the body of vehicle and working hands frees’. If magnet location was on the cap you could loose this option’. This is the best flashlight I ever had’. Super reliable and I love that strong magnet’. Super bright’ Battrery life is good and I search a lot, there is no flashlight like this in the market’. The only problem with this flashlight is micro usb charging port’ I wish it was a usb C port’. I believe you nick ‘. You’re the best knife Expert’. But because I had this flashlight and used it. So I had to kind of disagree with you
Honestly I feel like a Rovy Von Aurora A1 is more than enough for peoples every day needs. That's around half the price of this one. If you need more lumens, and more features than that, I'd just go with a full size light and ditch the keychain stuff.
Yeah rovyvon has knocked the keychain flashlight competition out of the park, and with how good lights are getting, small lights like that are good for most applications. I have an A5 and a bigger thrunite, and I don't need anything else
Nitecore can't figure out how to do a lockout without keeping the MCU active and draining the battery in a couple days, which the original TIP did. Open source hobbyists have figured that out, as have other manufacturers, but not Nitecore.
Zak Wilson I got an original TIP that has lockout and it is the 2nd version without the drain issue. Not sure why they took out the lockout after that.
USB Port = non-replaceable battery. This means your flashlight is a disposable item. Just something to consider. Also, a charging port is an extra bit of electronics and therefore a potential point of failure.
By the time this battery fails, you would already be carrying something newer. It's lik, nobody carries Maglites from the 90's and those have replaceable batteries. Because, better and newer stuff.
Its proberly wery easy to change battery on this. One my nitecore tip i have changed it and it tok me like 15 min. So my time doing that every 5 years is ok for me. And it can be used while charging
The magnets are a deal breaker. If I seriously have to worry about not getting this thing to close to my wallet or watch, then I'm not going to buy it. I also don't like flashlights that do not have the ability to use either AA's or AAA's which you can buy at any store in the world. I do not use rechargeable batteries because if they run out when I am nowhere near a power source, the light is rendered useless. I will always have extra AA's and AAA's in my backpack, but I do not carry a gasoline powered generator in my backpack. If you use a flashlight everyday for your work and will remember to charge it during your off hours, then rechargeable batteries make sense, but if you only pick up a flashlight every now and then, they are terrible.
I like that the magnets are in the light so I can magnetically mount it to use hands free like the under the hood of a car.
Nick has a chauffeur so the thought hadn't occurred to him.
I agree
If the light is to be used on a keychain, I have to imagine the magnets are going to make a tangle of your keys.
@@winomaster most keys are brass some that shouldn't be an issue.
@@ohroonoko Good point. My car key is steel looking but may be plated.
In Holland, you could TIP 2 through the tulips.
That pun is so bad, that I wished I had thought of it.
I love when I search for a product and see that Nick has done a review on it.... Thanks man!
Insanely good review. All the advantages and disadvantages on the table! Thank you
I have the original Tip and the lack of a lockout mode was a big deal because it constantly turned on in my pocket. I have had the Tip 2 for several months now and despite never using the demo mode I haven’t had it inadvertently turn on in my pocket. So I don’t see a strong need for a lockout. The only thing I dislike about the Tip 2 is the several seconds it takes to turn on the light, which is the trade off for not having it turn on in my pocket.
Just picked up a Nitecore Tini.. only 350 Lumens but got a copper one for less than $30 (roughly $25 for standard) and much smaller. Great compact light to have on you at all times.
But.......is there a lock out mode?
I just got the exact same copper Tini, carrying it on my keychain now. Far brighter than the Olight i1R, and no more twisty turn on.
@@Tmankiller72 no lockout but does have demo.
Haven’t accidentally turned it on yet and has a 30 sec auto off
I'd like to see more manufacturers switch to USB type C as it is starting to become more common and can charge faster.
Faster charge means weaker battery
can you review the streamlight - microstream usb ? i hear it's an awesome little edc light. - - - your input is always valued . . .
Wow really nice little edc flashlight review!!! ^w^
Why do you need a lock-out mode when it turns itself off automatically after 30 seconds?
I can live with the demo mode as a substitute for lockout but I hate that 3 second delay when you turn it on. They should give it a real lockout and get rid of the stupid delay.
My biggest problem with this light is it’s lack of moisture resistance. No lockout is also problematic. I own two of the first edition and love the size, output levels and run time. Started wearing them on a neck chain to avoid unwanted activation in pocket, but when doing yard work, sweat was enough to disable it. Fix those 2 things and it’s well worth the cost.
The clip design makes it look like a little mini pager from the 90's lol. I do like the shape tho, seems perfect for the key pocket
I generally like having a disco mode. Not for tactical reasons, but for "hey, it's a dark street and you're a fast car don't hit me" reasons. Good for when you're not carrying a bike light.
Reminds me of the Nitecore Tini but a bit bigger.
Now I'm always gonna hear 10,000 LUMENS by the sound of your voice if I ever get to encounter those words again..
I wish more lights would ditch the disco modes
The TUP has 2 lockout modes, more lumens & a clip like you were asking about and costs less than this thing. I don't get it
Nick must have made bail, he's back with an actual video.
Hm?
The magnets were a good idea, perhaps implemented poorly. I EDC a TIP 1 and have attached a fishing net magnet to it and one to a carabiner. It goes on a outside belt loop. I can pull the light off easily and attach it back without looking. This has proven to be very beneficial for me. As I often have to crawl in tight spaces moving cable and whatnot. However with the TIP2 when I try to reattach the light back to the cap I have to be exact with it. It can easily misalign when reattaching, especially if you are doing it by feel. I had high hopes for the TIP 2, improved lumen output but sadly it does not function well (attaching / reattaching) for me. And yes I realize I am using in circumstances that most don't encounter. And no a headlamp does not work out as well for me. So I have a TiP 2 but don't EDC it.
12:59 I strongly suspect that Nitecore doesn't include a lockout mode in order to keep customers from returning lights as "broken" when they don't RTFM. A quick Google search shows that this is already true of the "demo mode" - people see the light turn off after 30 seconds, and they freak out because they think the light doesn't work.
The Nick forgot to mention the price which is about $45.00, so #notaninexpensivelight
Thomas h ...thanks Tom for looking after Nick. I appreciate that info.
Can be had for 29 now
50 bucks on Amazon. I'd be in if I got mine free though. But not at fifty clams.
For real. Especially when I can get something like a Tool AA and a pack of rechargeable 14500 cells for around $30.
JP Stone what about for fifty oysters
Can get it for 29 at places now..not worth 50. I agree
Nick, regarding comparing this form factor with the standard round tube w/replacable battery: I bought a similar MecArmy SGN5 which I liked initially. But after 18 months the battery has crapped out and I discover that the battery connection is soldered to the battery.
(The battery is the size and shape of a nickle.) It is not user changable and the jeweler I took it to wanted no part of a redo. My question:. Is the battery on your review model replacable by the customer? If not, it's a disposable flashlight. It's a reasonable point buyers should want to know.
That looks like it would be difficult to turn on accidentally
10:42 "cliption" heh heh
10,000!! Lumens!
You are missing the point on the magnets , there are not there to protect the charging port but to make the light stick to anything metallic
well it does both, so he missed half of that.
No disco mode, this makes me deeply sad 😥
One day in the future, some kid with too much time on their hands will go through Nick's entire video library and catalogue ten thousand instances of him exclaiming, "10 000 LUMENS!!!" and stitch together a supercut.
I have a nitecore tip 2 flashlight ’ I bought it 2 years ago’. Build quality is a excellent’. Super reliable’ and useful’. I disagree with neck i I believe location of magnet is correct’. For example if you have a flat tire you can stick the flashlight to the body of vehicle and working hands frees’. If magnet location was on the cap you could loose this option’. This is the best flashlight I ever had’. Super reliable and I love that strong magnet’. Super bright’ Battrery life is good and I search a lot, there is no flashlight like this in the market’. The only problem with this flashlight is micro usb charging port’ I wish it was a usb C port’. I believe you nick ‘. You’re the best knife Expert’. But because I had this flashlight and used it. So I had to kind of disagree with you
Tip of this Nick......
i really feel like usb c should be a requirement these days. even better if it can fast charge.
Yep. Nothing new should be built with Micro USB. USB C is better in every way.
Fast charging really wears your battery out, no thanks.
USB C doesn't mean fast charging, it is just the type of cable. The charger it is plugged into specifies how much juice it gets.
Honestly I feel like a Rovy Von Aurora A1 is more than enough for peoples every day needs. That's around half the price of this one.
If you need more lumens, and more features than that, I'd just go with a full size light and ditch the keychain stuff.
Yeah rovyvon has knocked the keychain flashlight competition out of the park, and with how good lights are getting, small lights like that are good for most applications.
I have an A5 and a bigger thrunite, and I don't need anything else
Nitecore can't figure out how to do a lockout without keeping the MCU active and draining the battery in a couple days, which the original TIP did. Open source hobbyists have figured that out, as have other manufacturers, but not Nitecore.
Zak Wilson I got an original TIP that has lockout and it is the 2nd version without the drain issue. Not sure why they took out the lockout after that.
not for me, like the strobe mode.
Can't believe you didn't mention that fact that you seem to need a tool to remove the tail cap in order to charge it
He did mention it
@@thomash4578 oh thanks. I guess I need to work on my A.D.D. 🥴
You don’t, I remove mine easily by just pulling apart.
No tool is needed.
Nick is a hand model. He doesn't want to risk breaking a nail.
So who actually still has a usb phone I know all my phones for about 4 years have been usbc
Everyone in China, evidently. At least ,that's what I hear when I bug Chinese flashlight makers about exactly this.
What is usbc
USB Port = non-replaceable battery. This means your flashlight is a disposable item. Just something to consider. Also, a charging port is an extra bit of electronics and therefore a potential point of failure.
By the time this battery fails, you would already be carrying something newer. It's lik, nobody carries Maglites from the 90's and those have replaceable batteries. Because, better and newer stuff.
@@ohroonoko (looks down at his Mag light that he first bought in the 1980's and is still great)
Well some of us do :)
Its proberly wery easy to change battery on this. One my nitecore tip i have changed it and it tok me like 15 min. So my time doing that every 5 years is ok for me. And it can be used while charging
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The magnets are a deal breaker. If I seriously have to worry about not getting this thing to close to my wallet or watch, then I'm not going to buy it. I also don't like flashlights that do not have the ability to use either AA's or AAA's which you can buy at any store in the world. I do not use rechargeable batteries because if they run out when I am nowhere near a power source, the light is rendered useless. I will always have extra AA's and AAA's in my backpack, but I do not carry a gasoline powered generator in my backpack. If you use a flashlight everyday for your work and will remember to charge it during your off hours, then rechargeable batteries make sense, but if you only pick up a flashlight every now and then, they are terrible.
Stop talking, get to the point TIP2.