1960 John Deere 1010 Diesel Engine Teardown. Worth Fixing?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Curiosity can be a costly thing! This old beast smokes like a freight train, and I want to know what the root cause is. Is it worth trying to fix?
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The saga continues! Thank you for all your suggestions and ideas. You guys are an awesome audience! Have a fantastic weekend folks!
Absurd suggestion here LS or K20 swap it just because it'd hilarious to see a "high" reving dozer k20 wise though probably wouldn't have the torque to move it
(Commented before I finish watching)
I knew you were gonna fix it! :D
How about swapping in a cummins 4bt?
Either way, great video!
Have a good weekend!! And thank you
Matt @ Diesel Creek could probably help.
This series leaves me wanting for some sort of demo derby for old equipment.
John, as a fellow Virginian and an old iron enthusiast, I hope this helps fund the continuation of this project! I can’t wait for more great content!
Wow, what an awesome gesture!
you rock man!!
Thank you!
You put me to shame what a lovely gesture, good on you for that. A hundred bucks goes a long way. It's half a head gasket already. Again, good on you.
Christopher, thats the spirit, a big V for victory sign or thumbs up to you sir. All the best from England.
I'm glad you decided to bring this old girl back to life - not because it makes economic sense, but because it's a difficult challenge.
Because it makes a good YT video series
"We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK
“Science isn’t about why, it’s about why not!”
Engine swap time
Exactly what I was going to say!
I’m a Patreon member, but this continuing build deserves even more support!
Awesome!
Thank you, sir!
If these people continue to flood you with donations and after a certain amount of time you decide the old deere is no fixable. you might repurpose the campaign donations to fund the purchase of that CAT D9 you keep looking at everytime your local dealer
Forget using it as a parts machine, use it as a smoke machine and do laser shows!
😂😂
Heavy metal only, so the chugging sound is lost in the bass. :)
Well if nothing else in spring time good for reducing the bug problem.
It's the "Little Engine (trackloader) That Could"! Love to see you give it chances. Thanks!
Hope this helps towards getting the 1010 back in good health. Perhaps some of your other viewers can help out too. Cheers, Mark
My humble contribution to your project. Looking forward to seeing those welded pistons!
watching you throw good money after bad is the whole reason I watch the channel, don't stop now.
Watch those view counts climb. That's an investment. 😆
If that's the only criteria, there would be no collectors, restorers, racers, hunters, fishermen, boaters, and other hobbyists out there, and we would be like Vulcans. 🖖
I too have faced parts obsolescence. 1932 Cletrac dozer. Parts were impossible find, had to get creative. Wish I had known you then!
Alway eagerly await your videos and am retro-watching all of you videos. Working on the “Boomlift Saga”.
I really admire your skills, humor and tenacity.
What got me started was the Johnson outboard. I have a 1952 5.5hp Johnson. Older than I am!
Good fortune and health!
Talk to some of the other diesel channels like Diesel Creek? Excited to see it run again.
Hi John! I know you’re limiting these at 1 hour, but let me speak for all that we’d happily watch 2 or 3 hours!
Same!!
Works for me too haha....
Got my vote!
Me too! Jon, you and BigStack need to do long videos.
steve
Some one will have pistons your not looking hard enough and they'll be 100 dollars each with rings
Hopefully you can find some good used pistons; I have an idea that your pistons were damaged due to hydro-lock before you ever got the machine. Seems to me that pistons aren't cast perfectly round; they're slightly oval, but when they are at operating temp they are round, and that would be difficult to replicate. Go ahead, measure a piston at room temp and then at 250°F, I hope you can prove me wrong.
How badly are the valve guides worn? Can you knurl and ream them to be in tolerance? Maybe replace valve guide seals?
Here's my contribution for a fresh set of glow plugs or whatever you think would be most helpful.
As always, I am really enjoying your content!
All good points!! Rings and lands can also be broken during removal due to the ridge at the top of the cylinder, Glad to see John remove those beforehand.
Aluminum pistons are typically 'cam ground'. They would be narrower across the wrist pin axis to allow for the expansion of the greater amount of material at the pin bosses as it heats to operating temperature. That's a contributing factor as to why the older diesels rattled and smoked alot until they were warmed up and the Piston fit the bore properly.
@@workparty3949 That is correct. Pistons are cam ground and not completely round. I hope John raises enough money to replace the hole set. Pistons and liners. If not, maybe he can locate a complete engine.
@@OutreachBibleProject Well, while in an IDEAL world, a fresh set of liners and pistons would be great. However, you're talking $3,500 worth of parts, and replacing cylinder lines that are STILL WITHIN factory specs really doesn't make sense to me. What DOES make sense is hone the cylinders to a nice crosshatch, reducing pits/scratching as much as possible without going nuts on it. I wouldn't blink if Jon used some J-B Weld to level out some of th ed scratches a tad; it's his machine, his call, and he really isn't trying to build a Cadillac or a Formula 1 car, it's just a utility dozer-type thing that's captured everyone's attention and we all want to see this goomba working again -- only much better, naturally. I think he'll be fine with the 'just within spec' parts.
Maybe reach out to Matt at Diesel Creek and the fellow at Scrappy Industries and see if they've got whatever engine is in the JD laying around, or know someone who does?
Also try Pacific Northwest Hillbilly. He got a good used engine for his crawler from a yard somewhere.
That's right he was at a logging equipment junkyard@@65BAJA
You are the first channel that I'm donating to ever, so be gentle 😅
I have no farm, no machinery but I find your channel a must see every week. It's your deductive reasoning and problem solving ability I find fascinating. We're with you on the old Deere!
Wish we could send more. Keep up the great work!
I've TIG welded pistons before. I'm certainly not any kind of professional welder, but it worked better than expected.
That's good to hear. I really need to get a TIG welder, and I thought about buying one, but this is just not the job to learn aluminum welding for the first time. It takes 6 hours of reassembly to find out that your weld sucks. ;-)
It's the crossover we've all been waiting for....
@@FarmCraft101time to hit vevor up for one ?
Don’t weld it! You know how good the aluminum you smelted and made the fitting turned out. Heat treatment is a primary requisite for good aluminum and in welding you will ruin the rest of the pistons strength. There are used parts or new from someone besides JD.
@@tmicadet T5 heat treatment (aging) is done at a temperature pretty similar to engine operating temperature. They're in essence self heat treating.
I'll donate a couple rings to the project!
Love the content on the old Deere
Thank you!
@@FarmCraft101 ua-cam.com/video/EDs750Sv-Mc/v-deo.htmlsi=VAzkfmfYo7wyIGpd
Amazing!
Thanks
100% my favourite channel, almost guaranteed Friday post with fantastic content, you and cutting edge engineering are killing it for the engineering audience. Thank you, without you my brain would be melted from watching crappy tv shows
This channel along with Pacific Northwest Hillbilly & Diesel Creek! You three are My idols!
@@kehenabeach4418 150% and more!!!👍👍👍👍👍
You are the Man
@@kehenabeach4418 Don't forget Squatch253.
I agree completely with this comment, thank you John and Curtis
I was a machinist, not mechanic, for 50+ years, well I guess I'll always be a machinist. It's refreshing to watch you do things that are so familiar to me and actually do them correctly. You either do your homework very well or were near the trade by necessity. Not boring at all. Pun intended. Love your videos and your humor.
Thanks for your super content, Jon!
You and Cutting Edge Engineering with his yard crane rebuild keep me captivated by far. I look forward to new videos every week from you two. Thanks for continuing.
CEE is definitely a cut above
For me, they're both great channels. One is more industrial one is more close to down to earth. @@Watchyn_Yarwood
see channel : diesel creek ! good vibes and work on old pré dead machine
Check out Pacific Northwest Hillbilly
@@mbot1326 That guy will tackle anything! I really like the D4 restoration series. If I were 40 years younger, I would try something like that!
Good luck mate! You're a real fixer upper, love the content!
Thanks! Keep up the amazing work your an inspiration to teaching the next generations what is possible
you're one of few channels that i watch at normal speed
i enjoy it so much i want it to last longer
I didn’t skip any second 😅
Yeah same here extremely right to every bit😊😊😊😂😂
Well, you could watch at half-speed, then the video is twice as long!
😂😂😂
Thank you for all your work in bringing us fantastic content! A small contribution for the projects.
Much appreciated!
first time in my live I see so generous person.
RESPECT 😲😄
Don't know if anyone else mentioned but you should rebuild those injectors to get a nice and even spray pattern, in the first video you can see they the spray was too heavy and dripped the spray should be much finer and no dripping.
That would increase the starting much easier and reduce the smoke👍❤️
By the way, I love the content
Edit: bad spraying injectors can ruin the engine.
I agree. If you're gonna do all that other stuff, the injectors deserve some attention too.
And I'm pretty sure Jon already has most of the parts laying around, to build himself a testing rig, to test opening-pressure and see the spraypatern of each individual injector.
I know some Dutch-spoken videos about this, but I don't think they gonna help Jon much. I'm pretty sure there must be English videos about this too, so if anyone who understands what I mean can paste a link, we might save Jon some research-time...
Probably soot on the injector thing, I've wondered if you could just lap the end of the injector together with fine diamond lapping paste to get diesel injectors serviceable again
Expensive to rebuild the injectors plus you need special equipment.
@@jameskim62 expensive???
Depends mostly on how much you pay yourself per hour.
here is a howto link :ua-cam.com/video/dns1XMOJI5w/v-deo.html
And here is a how to to build your own testrig from a bottlejack link ua-cam.com/video/luxMeMHhbYE/v-deo.html
And many more just search old diesel injectors :ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=how+to+test+old+diesel+injectors
Happy New Year, John, to you and family. My little contribution to keep the project going. I am enjoying your videos very much, and for some reason this little tractor gives me smiles.
Please keep on making your particular kind of content into the coming year.
All the best from far away.
Thx, here my donation for this project! Best for 2024! Grt from Netherlands EU
Thank you!
Incredible!
Runnn like a Deere 🦌
Every time you start it up your backyard transforms from Shire to Mordor within seconds. I love this series.
Adjustable link v belts are actually really strong. I've run them on vehicles in the past and had no problems whatsoever even long-term.
Agreed ! in cases where you have to dissemble half the machine to replace a v belt they are the ONLY way to go even if they are expensive as all get out!
In the words of Wes…” it’s only temporary, unless it works”….😂
They stretch, so you must keep shortening them !
@@malcolmamosafsm1890 I found that they spent quite a bit in the beginning but then after a while they settle in.
Thanks! Good luck
I cried a bit when you decided to fix it instead of scraping it.
🥺
I agree. An utterly un-interesting little machine, cheaper than a Caterpillar in its day for a good reason. To quote a collectible motorcycle buyer's guide: "We have left out motorcycles which were considered rubbish when new"
@@erik_dk842 the opposite, I understand the feelings John has for the 1010 John...
@@makemeafirewall Why? He purchased it in the current scrapworthy condition.
@@erik_dk842 because of something small we all have and we call it Hope.
We expect it to be scrap but we also hope it will turn out to be a great success.
A small contribution from my side of the world. Love the channel, keep it up. Thanks💲
Start watching the video, hear "Hi, I'm Jon", and see this old machine in the frame...clicks THUMBS UP! Love the underdog videos.
I couldn't stand those sad puppy eyes :(
Im chipping in, and you also got yourself a new patreon supporter in me!
Strong work. Thanks for not quitting on the John Deere and on us!
Great work - thank you. Top tip: always preheat the kitchen sink before you throw at a machine, ideally 200°c / 392°F / 473K / Gas Mark 6.
You might check on pistons made for other engines by bore & wrist pin diameter and the measurement from top of piston to center of wrist pin & top of piston to the lower skirt. I worked in an automotive machine shop years go and we replaced obsolete parts like pistons and valves with new ones designed for other engines. An example was an early Indian Motorcycle engine where we used Dodge pistons and Continental valves. Looked them up using a catalog which showed specs/dimensions instead of by model.
Anyone else get really nervous when John was reversing that machine under the shop awning in front of the doors? All I could think was something not disengaging and him driving straight through the shop backwards! Lol
😂
Just what I thought too!
Trust me, I was thinking about that too!
Yep, thought about the same scenario 😮 All good in the end though✅
Machinist and mechanic speaking here John. I think you'll find that an automotive machine shop will be able to match up pistons that will be available. Possibly at worst you'll have to change the gudgeon bushes and machine the top of the replacement pistons.. I've done it many times. Try that mate.
Thanks!
Hi John, Many moons ago I served my time on Perkins Diesels. Welding the pistons is a bold move but when you're in the phoo, needs must. You'll get away with honing the bores and new rings. I'd strongly suggest new big end shells if you can get them. The improved compression will likely add extra load on the white metal shells and accelerate the wear. Given the age of the engine, the oil pump will likely not be as efficient in keeping the constant film of oil around the big end journals, so new shells will certainly help. I'd also recommend when you do the valves, replacing the valve stem oil seals as they will be as hard as a whore's heart. The witness burning between the cylinders on the block suggest that the head might also need skimming, but run wet and dry paper with WD40 on a heavy surface block over it and the liner plate first to see how it looks.
This guy keeps producing top notch quality content. Thanks my guy!
John, what a man you are.
This series about this John Deere has probably been my favorite on your channel thus far. I know the feeling of putting time and money into a machine that you'll never get back, that motorcycle is still in my garage(Runs and rides fine).
I feel your pain on making the call... the puppy dog look the old girl gave you to try and change your mind, that was funny! When you looked at US and said "You too?!?!?" that was hilarious. There is no economic reason for you to bring her back to a healthy life, but I think we will ALL enjoy the challenges ahead of you. Too many other pieces are still functioning to just write it off. Looking forward to many more installments of this story. Thank you!
Those broken ring lands are probably from ether. I dd notice one or two of the injectors might be leaking. That can cause a lot of white smoke too. Looking forward to updates. I rebuilt a 1010 Utility tractor that was gas.
I've never been so invested in a series.. came over from tiktok. Really enjoying your content.
Welding the lands on the pistons is what I learned to do during my apprenticeship in the 60s as piston for vehicles were hard to come by back and costly.
7:10 ah the good old 2 boards on a trash bin workbench... classic. :D
It might be worth hitting up Clint at C&C Equipment to see if he's got a parts machine with the bits you need.
He is definitely the man when it comes to John Deere
Lavoy Wilcox and John Weems has acres of parts for these machines.
@@timcope3115 Good, send this pile of crap away to them
He probably has a big wooden crate full of those pistons... that's who I'd call.
PARTS: Always contact your local machine shop, I've had troubles finding pistons and they have come up with them and for a decent price also. It's worth a shot to check!!
Maaaaaaan, what an undertaking this is turning out to be! Yeah, it's a pain, and yeah, it's not worth the money, but Jon... What a ride this series is becoming! I can't speak for everyone watching, but for me, I'm certainly glad you decided to keep going on this - repeatedly. It would be fascinating to see you cast and machine a couple of new pistons for this old girl, and I suspect you'd manage to work it out and get it right - though, like you mentioned, it would be a LOT of work - and a bit of luck - to get top-quality from a home casting process... But man, what a new life that would be for a few cases of empty beer cans, huh? Imagine the story that would make!
Anyway, thank you so much for putting so much time and effort into this old JD. It's an absolute thrill to follow along on this rather unusual journey! Patiently looking forward to the final solution on this!
Better than anything on tv
I'm just an old city boy who has enjoyed watching all your conquests with all your other equipment,love to see you bring that dozer back to new, paint and every thing!😂
You and Matt over at diesel creek are my absolute favorite. I am so grateful for the hard work you put into your projects and I really enjoy the content you put out. Thank you for everything you do!!!
I almost commented in the last video about how good of a mosquito fogger you have there. lol I was amazed the tape on the lower hose did not leak. I would love to see you do a 100% restoration on the machine. I know it would run probably $10K but think about all the videos you would get out of it. Personally I would not make new pistons, I would find new ones or used ones.
Well knock me down, I audibly whooped when I saw the bucket actually start moving.
Also, this just further confirms that when the end times are upon us and its Mad Max times, You are my #1 get for the group.
Also also, 45:35, That is just patently untrue, I could watch you or This Old Tony micrometer anything.
Also also also (I promise this is it), are you at the point where you can have yearly Patreon memberships? Cause I would definitely up my pledge for this project.
I am also fairly convinced you and I are the only two people on UA-cam to highlight and explore the 1010 engine. I have searched so many times for some help and knowledge and nothing!
I sure hope Greta is watching this, just to fully understand the joy we feel with all that smoke and noise 😊
I have never seen this done before, so it is absolutely fascinating to me. You have a great way about you, explaining everything and showing everything, and I am really glad we get to continue. Also, you make me laugh. Thanks for the great videos, I’m looking forward to seeing and learning more.
Hey John, the repair is pointless - sure, but the learning is invaluable and priceless. I am glad you like fixing things and bringing us along for the ride.👍👍
I dunno, with a lick of paint and running like new has got to be worth a few bucks for sure. Priceless even
Loved it when you started talking to her. you’re funny. Your perseverance is admirable. Awesome job.
*HOT TIP* Instead of ether to start it use a blow torch and aim the flame directly into the air intake. Crank it over while heating the air going in and will start Much quicker
He tried that in the original video to get it started, so he knows about that trick.
Right or wrong, I understand... Something noble about saving junk like this. Always enjoy your stuff John; think you're my favorite, most down-to-earth channel, and I feel like I can actually learn something rather than just 'be entertained'. I'm convinced you and Wes make the best content on UA-cam for people that want to learn about the junk they're wrenching on.
see channel diesel creek !! same vibes
@@wince333 Recently unsubscribed. Even as a fellow Pennsylvania, just not what I'm looking for anymore. I wish him the best though, and I occasionally watch his suggested stuff.
Hello from Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada great videos thanks for sharing with all of us 😊
I had a radiator hose blowout on a 280Z years ago. I was in the middle of nowhere and all I had was a roll of duct tape. I use that whole roll on the hose and drove at least 2 hours home. It wasn't perfect but it got the job done!
I not so serious cases one can stick a cutoff of a bicycle inner tube into the radiator hose, fold the ends over, and the hose is fixed. A simple and reliable field repair.
@@guzziwheeler That's a great idea! I didn't have one at the time and probably wouldn't have thought of it but that's pretty cool
I love your channel!
Seen every single video you post👏🏼 learned a lot too. Have been looking for other channels similar to yours where they fix things and explain stuff along.
Funny how you get 150+ likes 5min after you posted and they haven’t even watched the video through 😂 they’ll just know it’s going to be good🎉
Check out Diesel Creek. Mat is doing similar stuff, and he is also a gifted videographer.
Likes views and posted time are not in synch, the servers are distributed. Note I did like before I viewed the whole video 😊
Jon, I'm not gunna lie to ya! My heart stopped when it looked like you were walking away! I'm glad you're give'n the ole girl a little breather room! And YES I love your content. You are one the BEST UA-camrs out there. I like what you do and I like your attitude! Farmer-to-Farmer: keep these good videos come'n! Great video! Lee
Thank you for all the effort you put into these videos!
To break a stubborn head gasket seal I have found the easiest way is to remove the valve gear so that all valves are closed then loosen tha head bolts one or maybe two turns and crank the engine so that the cylinder compression does the job. The fact that the head can only lift a fraz prevents any possible damage. The first time I tried this technique was on a 250cc two stroke motorcycle but I had removed the bolts entirely. You would be surprised how far those heads flew 🤣
Taking one for the team so we can have fun and learn some shit. It's been a great series so far, thanks and happy new year!
Thanks for trying. The journey is exciting.
Even though you only post once a week, you are an awesome YT channel. I started watching when you did your porch replacement. I think any small amount you spend will be worth it !
Don't mention the P word John @farmcraft101 still shudders and has nightmares about the P..... 😀
Hi John,
Have you seen the old trick for making gaskets where you take an appropriate sheet of gasket material, set it on top of the part you need a gasket for and then gently tap around the edges of the part with the round end of a ball peen hammer? It makes perfect gaskets, is super cheap and it is very quick. I learned this trick from a mechanic who works on high end German cars and he told me that a manila envelope/folder makes excellent gasket material- better than the expensive OEM ones in many cases- especially if you use a little gasket release goop on it. I can attest that this works as the water pump on my sailboat auxiliary engine that pumps raw salt water for cooling has worked flawlessly since I did this over 8 years ago...
Love your channel!
All the best from California (where your tractor will likely not pass smog testing...) :) 🧡
I'm happy you're not dropping this. As wierd as it is.. its awesome to see such restoration take place.
I thought you were ready to bury her in the backyard but you decided to keep her on life-support a little longer. Yay! The welded up pistons should be a workable solution. If you can get that done, then a set of standard rings and a head gasket won’t be such a bitter pill. With compression back up where it belongs, I believe she’ll run real nice. We’ll see. Thanks for the suspenseful content! 🥸👍👀✅
I have watch you now for quite a while. This is the most interesting show I ever watched. Thank you for doing this. I know it was a lot of work but you’re really doing the service everybody watching such an expert at work. I love it.
For acting in the end. You deserve the Oscar
Your diagnostic skills are awesome, keep up the great videos!
Saving that machine is not only admirable and impressive but also honorable. Great job.
Yeah if honing and some new rings will do the job.. It would still be very interesting.
Do a crowdfunding campaign for this! I'm sure your subs would donate to watch you bring this to life!
John: Wants to give up.
Viewers: No John, keep going.
John: Wants to give up.
Viewers: No John, keep going.
John: Okay, this thing is a broken mess.
Viewers: Now we see it is totaled you can give up now.
John: I am going to keep going!
Putting the John in John Deere, thanks for another great video. Hard work, patience, and persistence go a long way
Not everything needs to make financial sense... just having a old john deer front loader running around itself would be worth the money and the fun! That being said I can't even afford or have the time to fix my own project car so I'm living vicariously through you and it makes me so happy to see you doing this! Keep up the work john! Also. I. HATE. LINKBELTS! Not because they are garbage but because they're just a pain to work with. (They can actually handle quite a bit of load. More then you would expect) They're all over the mill I work in and I'm constantly replacing them. I thought link of a link belt right before you showed it on screen so glad I didn't have to wait and see you try one.
It is amazing those old parts last forever you buy a new water pump today from China and it will last 3 months. I will bet a John Deere 219 engine would fit right in there. You just made my life so much easier, I never knew they had adjustable V belts I am going to get some and when I have a machine down and I need to get it to the shop I can just throw one of those on. Thank You.👍
Do not change the cylinders. There may be cracks in the web between the cylinders. As long as they are not water, rings might be enough.
I’d say rings are broken due to ether start.
Totally unrelated but I'm digging the old barn door handles and hinges in the background.
I so very much appreciate the continued effort on this machine. She fought hard but showed her will to live and I'm very happy to see the continued saga. I know the money and the tremendous effort it takes to do this. Much respect for all that you do to keep us entertained. I will continue to watch this series to its conclusion.
I just have to say that I really like this project
56:06 the metal box in the background looks happy 😛
I'm so happy you decided to continue this project! I almost shouted out "It's a Christmas Miracle!"; but it's a little late for that statement. Thank you so much for the content. FarmCraft101 is absolutely my favorite channel.
Breaking the bad news to the machine just cracked me up. I really like your approach and I applaud your dedication.
Fantastic work! Love your journeys! This was definitely worth your efforts to get this beautiful piece of history up, running, and functioning! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Some times it's not the money but the journey you take to make things work. Can't wait to see the outcome!
Hey Jon, thanks again for brightening up my friday
There is a guy in the midwest that you can send sleeve deck to, and is overboring sleeve decks, and sending back with new pistons and rings. He is on some of the facebook forums. If you remove sleeve deck from block, be very carefull. The cylinders are silver soldered to the deck plate. They can brake off. Most people have sucess using pucks on bottom of cylinders and carfully and evenly pushing it up and out.
great videos my friend keep them coming.......whats the update on the pond.....
If you put the air cleaner back on , it would probably have enough restriction on the intake to have it shut down properly, even though it is still sucking oil from the crank case. I think you should put in a set of new rings! I don't know what is involved in fixing the clutch and brakes, but would love for you to further my education! I am so pleased that you are repairing the engine! While waiting for parts, maybe you can give us an education on clutch and brake repair.