West Ham January discount sale! | Who's going and how much will we get for them?
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2023
- West Ham have to sell players before they can buy in the January transfer window. Tin Steidten has a list of players he and David Moyes would like to bring to The London Stadium but The Hammers must sell first. Said Benrahma, Nayef Aguerd, Maxwel Cornet, Danny Ings, Thilo Kehrer, Ben Johnson, Divin Mubama, Aaron Cresswell and Pablo Fornals could all leave in the upcoming January transfer window. But how much will they cost and how easy will it be to sell them? Gonzo takes a look at each player individually.
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Selling Aguard would be a poor decision selling him at a loss would be bloody stupid.
We shouldn't have paid so much for him he isn't worth it. Before he came to us he was worth between 5 - 8m on transfer market. After we paid so much all the media in France were astonished he went for so much and were basically laughing at us.
I can see why now
We don't need him should never had a west ham shirt on
Completely agree.
Happy NY to you, Geo and Charlie! You boys are unquestionably my favorite West Ham channel. I know it’s a struggle for you guys, but know that you are very, very good at it. Congratulations on coming up with something worthy of conversation every single day. That’s no small feat. Here’s to a banner 2024! 🍾🍻
Happy new year!
Don't forget that whilst that on paper fees can look like a loss, in terms of FFP they can actually be a profit. E.g. buy a player at £30m on a 3 year contract, if we sold that player after a year for £25m we'd view it as a loss but for FFP it would be £5m of profit as with 2 years left on the contract they're viewed as being worth £20m.
If we can should use them as part of potential deals
Ings > Walkers Peters Southampton, etc
Otherwise sell to clear books and add youth to bench
Marshall take ings spot on bench etc
discovered you guys during lockdown, appreciate what you guys do on the daily...happy new year!
Happy New Year to you, Geo and Charlie - it’s great that you have been able to turn talking about West Ham every day into a job - you do it really well and it is part of a lot of peoples day - I do actually support you on Patreon but to be honest, I don’t actually ever really watch the extra videos, I’m just happy to be able to support in a small way since Covid
We pay premium prices for refreshments at the London Stadium and then flog players at prices way below those that we paid. What a way to run a club
Happy New year to you all. Thanks for the great content year round. Amazing source of news and banter. Glad you get to do what you love for a job. Keep up the good work.
Happy new year Graeme, thanks mate
Happy New Beer. Gonzo. All @ Hammerschat could not have got through the year without you. Many Thxs❤
Happy new year Russell. . . Hope all is well mate
Following this channel is such a pleasure Gonzo, also enjoy your dad's input. Happy 2024 to you both :) COYI!
Happy new year to you, Gonzo, and thanks for all the content. Adopting your insight on various topics allows me to be far more credible in football-related chats.😊
Happy new year David, very much appreciated mate
Thanks Gonzo , I didn’t know about your background, that’s something as a viewer we would like to know about you , Gio etc , bit of background into the hosts
Thanks Michael, we have done it a few times buddy but happy to do so again
. Happy new year
For the younger ones, we should let them go for little or nothing, but make sure we put a sell on in there, while we can. That’s our best chance of brining something in for them.
Happy new year. The fact that the list is so long does raise the question of whether more playing time for these guys, as Premier League substitutes, might have helped their fitness, motivation and willingness to battle for a starting place in the team. Too often we have played the same starting eleven with one predictable substitution per game ie. Benrahma or Fornals after 87 minutes.
Love this channel, cheers Gonzo for all these vids. Happy new year to all Hammers
Happy new year!
Happy New Year Gonzo, Geo and Charlie and team. Thanks for another great year of Hammers Chat. Just to echo a couple of other comments, you fellas are absolutely superb at what you do and I always look forward to my daily dose of West Ham updates. As an overseas Hammer these days I’ve been listening to the channel for the last 5 or 6 years I can honestly say that the content is the most balanced and informative out there. Not a rumour mill, opinionated but always fair, well informed and varied. Keep doing what you fellas do and I very much hope it’s earning you all a decent living, you’re all very much appreciated by us rowdy lot. I must join Patreon this year, long overdue. Have a great 2024. COYI
Thanks so much Paul, we appreciate you watching mate.
Happy new year
I'd keep Fornals - there is a good player still there - Just needs games.
Happy new year Gonzo started listening to your channel about 6 months ago really enjoyed listening to you ⚒️⚒️
Happy new year to all at Hammers Chat . You guys do a brilliant job. In fact you are my favourite west Ham podcast
Happy New Year to you Gonzo and Geo and Charlie. Love the channel and look forward to watching in 2024.
Happy new year Susan
Happy New Year Gonzo! Let's hope 2024 is even better than 2023.
Happy New Year Gonzo I really appreciate all the videos and info mate, You're a top guy, only 2 people I really listen to about our club and transfers you and Fabrizio
Thanks mate, I really appreciate that. Happy new year to you
Happy New Year to you and all at Hammer's Chat. And a big Thank You
Happy new year mate
Well, more simply we have to sell to make space for new players. A squad of 25 is a squad of 25 regardless of cash in/ cash out
But players can be unregistered this month tho they can be at the club and not be registered would just be a waste
Good job Gonzo. I like Aguerd and still don’t understand what happened with Cornet
Happy new year keep it up Gonzo great content
Happy New Year to you Gonzo and your family mate,here’s to an even better 2024 for all.
Happy new year Andy 🎆
Hiya gonzo mate I totally agree with everything you said on them players and I cant wait to see who we get in hopefully ivan toney and sancho maybe ian marttson and happy new year buddy to the hammers chat family ⚒🤝
Happy new year gonzo its been a great 2023 listening to you
Thanks Gary mate. Happy new year
A lot of those on the sell list such as Cornet, Benny and Fornals are really good players lacking match practice. Need to employ a Dellboy type character to get a good price for them.
Happy New Year Gonzo and Geo and Charlie. Keep up the good work
Thanks Ben, happy new year mate
Happy New Year to all at Hammers Chat. Keep up the good content
Same to you Tony mate
Happy new year to you and the rest of the Hammers chat team keep up the good work and heres to a fantastic 2024
Happy new year to you too Mark, thanks mate
Happy new year gonzo see you in the new year
Well done for the past year's of interesting comments and news. Everyday something new and provocative, always probing and thought provoking. Whether you agree or not of his views it does make you think. Well done to Gonzo and the team. Happy new year to all.
Thanks mate, appreciate that
. Happy new year
Great podcast which you do really well. Well done on the career change 👏
A great job mate. Happy new year to all the team⚒
Happy new year Derek
Happy New Year Gonz and fellow Hammers
Happy new year mate
Need to strengthen team if not wanting to play these players....other teams getting injuries atm.....and it soon could happen to us... no rest for Bowen...Paqueta...Soucek etc. picking up knocks....only takes 2 or 3 injuries in wrong positions and we re stuffed....get rid of 2 or 3 but get in players Moyes will at least play!!!....great channel Gonzo.....would like to hear more about your business that went down over Covid.....sad that...happened at lot everywhere...here in OZ too.....keep it going mate....always an honest, levelled and light hearted analysis...COYI....
Cheers Rupert mate. Very decent of you. I sort of assume everyone knows the story because I covered it at the time but I'd be happy to do so again
Happy new year mate
It’s about getting wages off the books. Not so much the transfer fee. Also is the Summer break in South America. Maybe Tim will be getting the Jet out for a run.?
God bless ya Gonzo you and Gio deserve every bit of luck , all the best for the new year
Thanks Simon, happy new year mate
Happy new year to all the lads on Hammers chat COYI
Happy new year Spencer
Happy new years gonzo geo and Charlie hope 2024 is great year for you guys
Happy new year Gareth 🎇
Happy new year boys
Happy new year Gonzo from Ireland
Happy new year Thomas
That so many on that list have been at WHU for such a short time shows a horrible playing staff turnover trend. Also, removing the youth players, I can count just 4 senior squad players that have been at the club for 5 years or more. And we're now down to 3 who have graced the haloed turf at Upton Park 😪
We are losing players that had a big part in winning the europa conference cup. Will all go down in West Ham history.
Happy New year to you all... come on you iron's.. ⚒⚒
Happy new year
Happy new year 🎊
We should look at that aek Athens striker Garcia in place of ings
Happy new year. What we need is players with pace. In the backline we’ve got two: Nayef and Kehrer. I would not sell both of them. And it must be something unknown going on if the rumours are right regarding Aguerd. Yes, he can make a mistake or two, but his contributions with his passing ability and pace are central to us. To sell one of our starters? Nah, even if an even better player comes in, think we need him as Oggy and Zouma can’t play every week. It doesn’t seem that Moyes will give a chance to Liang or Luzio, right or wrong. So then I want to see Aguerd continue.
Happy new year 🎊
Happy new year gonzo geo and Charlie boy .
Happy new year Barry
We always lose money when selling players, so frustrating
Only payet and maybe arnautovic we sold for more than we bought them for
I cannot believe how Cornet has been completely overlooked by Moyes, talk about ego getting in the way! Cornet has so much to offer, especially now he's not going to Afcon, he's better than Benrhama and Formals, but still doesn't get a look in, madness!!!
Ah the myth of Cornet - he’s so much better than them despite not showing anything to substantiate that in 2 years - impressive!
@@jamesgunn7 given any kind of chance he would have, he was class for Burnley and in the French league, he didn't suddenly become a bad player, with the likes of fornals and Benrahma looking to be going, Cornet would be worth a spell on the left, maybe?
I'm sorry if I seem to be arsed about it, cos Moyes in lot seems to have won the day but Man Utd got beaten by forest, arsenal got beaten by Fulham. Moyes has reached his ceiling, we're gonna lose all these youth team players one by one. Hopefully Steidten stays but we'll see if there's silly buggers over this window cos for a religious man (according to his wiki, have a read, it's like an angry iron has changed it, there's a quote about him getting a kick in in the changing room!) he's a very petty man, look at cornet. Nothing to me says that something has fundamentally changed, and like Antonio going crap after penning a new deal, well, mark my words...
Cool story bro. Tell it walking
maxwell cornet needs another chance, if at all possible...or actually, more like A chance!
Happy new year! I can’t see us selling aguerd for a loss, it wouldn’t make any sense. I think he’s been a good signing, a few breakdowns in communication with areloa but he’s been solid otherwise.
Happy new year Liam
Why would we take a loss on Aguerd?? I don't see how his value would drop??.. did we over pay for him??
No mention of Antonio?
You should have made the phrase for the bet during the Arsenal game “A SAKA WHITE RICE”. Missed a tap in on that one.
🤣 that's a good one
Happy new year,I think (and hope!) some of your estimated fees are way too low,we must be able to get more than around 10mill each for benny and kehrer
Happy new year Roger mate
Happy New year to all.
Same to you mate
Thinking of kudos could go away and come back to a third of the team changed 🤔 we get this window right and we will have a good second half of the season! Come on you irons
Am clutching at straws hoping Cornet will still get a chance. I think what was left of that hope died when it was announced Benrahma was not going to the AFCON. I suppose all we can do is hope that the winger they sign can cross a ball
So thanks to Moyes they're all under priced, what a joke to keep him on
Happy New Year Gonzo! (and Geo & Charlie)
Happy new year mate
Danny ing=2.5mill plus add ons
D mubama=1mill plus add ons
S benrahma=5mill plus add ons
Fornal=5mill plus add ons
T kehrer=10mill with add ons
M cornet=5mill plus add ons
A cresswell=1mill if were lucky
Ben johnson=2mill plus add on in january
C coventry-😂😂
That's 31.5mill in my eyes proberly 38.5mill with add on so if we can sell them allows us a couple of 25mill signings
So why would we want to sell Aguerd at all, let alone for £10m less than we paid for him? I don't understand the issue with him? What is this discontent you mention Gonzo?
Because it's value. Look at Cornet. Moyes has effectively devalued him by 10m. Aguerd looks like he's been turned by Saudi league interest. Problem is, unless Saudi league come in, no league is paying 35m. Especially not french league. If we can get 20m, his wages fully off the books, we can find a cheaper, better, reliable player.
@@philwill0123 rubbish. Aguerd is a first team pick. Cornet isn't.
Why would you sell a player for less than value if he's our first team choice CB. Saudi aren't buying until the summer, so he should stay until then at the earliest.
Hi Carl, there have been rumours of a falling out.
Im hearing kehrer is close to signing for monaco and also another couple of french teams interested in benny. And we are also interested in sancho as a loan
Defo won't be getting sancho thank god 🙏
Moyes won't want sancho. Despite us needing LW and his obsession with Man U players. Man U won't loan him to a direct rival like us. Besides he is a spoilt brat. No thanks. No way it happens
@@RengPush na I wouldnt have him either
@@RengPush Go for Maatsen of Chelsea. He can play anywhere down the left-hand side...LB....LWB....LM....LW..... only 21 too.
Sanche has reportedly been training on his own so if we did get him on loan how long would it take to get game fit under Moyes. Waste of money as Manu would want stupid money for the loan fee and probably want us to pay most of his wage.
I think Kehrer goes and and Ta comes in . Ings out on loan and we help with wages and someone in on loan -not sure about Sancho but we will see
Ta isn't gonna leave Leverkusen when their top of the Bundesliga. Dan-Axel Zagadou is the CB from Struttgart who West Ham are looking at. He'll cost way less than Ta and has the potential to be even better than Ta. Ta's 27....Zagadou is 24. Zagadou used to play in the same Dortmund team as Sancho and Bellingham before leaving last season for Struttgart. Big...physical unit...6'5 to be precise. Very solid in the air......very solid passing too. The thing is his ex-team mate is Mavropanos. Zagadou is a versatile defender too......playing at LB as well as CB.
If Moyes only wants to use about 13 players, then ya, sell what you can.
There’s no way we’re selling Aguerd for less than we paid.
Would you except a loss I would not it bad business practice it makes better sense to buy new manager with premier league experience or Europe to club experience.
Get 1 mill for cress and use the money for he’s testimonial be a nice touch by the club ⚒️❤️⚒️
Happy New Year Kris.
The challenges of the in’s & out’s of this window will solidify Steidten’s worth to the club and show how much Moyes stubbornness with players has cost the club.
Danny Ings deserves a free transfer to a bottom 5 PL club or a Championship club: gets him off our books. We may well need Cornet while Kudus et al are at Afcon. A good man manager can put their feelings aside and take one for the team: Cornet to start on Tuesday then. Ahem.
January transfer window is, short. It's, going to be a, big ask to offload players and bring in new signings. All depends how orepared we are.
The club would be better selling Moyes rather than selling players who can come good under new manager.
Will Cressy ever get a testimonial?
When was the last time we sold a Moyes signing and made a profit ? 🤔
We always seem to lose money on players ,that's terrible business.
Coufal has signed a new contract but is unhappy at what he has been offered, might. E another one on the way out
Gutted for mubama really think he's got something good moyes didn't give the lad a chance
If we sell Augard it’s a massive mistake
Ings should never have been signed and Cresswell deserves, but won't get a testimonial. As for the rest of them, are they being sold or have they asked for transfers?
Why would Ings go anywhere and take a pay cut ? He can just sit on his contract and cop his wages
If it's the right club, he may go. I suspect we may have to contribute a percentage of his wages for a period of time
In Steidten I trust. One thing’s for sure Moyesaurus is a piss poor player manager imo. Transfer rumours are just that, rumours. WHUFC tend not to do a lot of business in January. Happy New Year to the HC team.
Happy new year Artel
So Aguerd was never "sick" then
He has had covid according to a journo with close links to the club -people are just not reporting it
The West Ham revolving door is still spinning well both for the men’s team and women’s team
Sick of us haemorrhaging money through buying high & selling cheap after no time.
A decent progressive manager would get most of these players firing on all cylinders.
Moyes can’t improve players through coaching. Hence he mostly buys established players.
Players like Kudus, Paqueta, Bowen haven’t improved under Moyes. They’re quality players that would thrive at any club.
However there’s plenty who have deteriorated under him.
Get him out ASAP.
Get your dad on here more - enjoy what he has to say!
Gonzo why would aguerd take a ten million loss ? Hes if anything worth 40 hes prem proven hes hardly flopped he just doesnt suit our system hed suit a tikky takka team tbh Liverpool arsenal etc
Ings and Downes for Walker Peters and some chump change? As for Creswell, he can’t play in the premier league anymore. He needs to go down a league or two. In fact, maybe he should go join Nobes and help develop the kids.
Cresswell didn’t get a testimonial, did he? He’ll will get a free.
So we have to sell the entire bench and a bit, lose about 30 mil in the process just to bring in a player Moyes will probably not play 😂
Happy new year chatters 😄
Happy new year mate
Talking 50milion of loses from player sells. We need to target younger players not 28 year olds. Kudus just 23. That's the players we have to after. We have the oldest squad in the PL and it shows...
This is david moyes fault he has no respect for the fringe players he a rubbish manager
Let’s sell kudus