Thank you for the comparison. I own the 28-70 and have used the 24-70 extensively. I own a small creative agency shooting commercial photography as well as small and medium sized video productions, and the 28-70 has absolutely been the better choice for me. It's almost optically flawless and I love the way it handles flare while retaining contrast when shooting backlit or something like welding. Sure, it's a bit heavier, but when I've got my v90 rig built out for my C70 the weight difference is negligible. When shooting events where light can't be controlled, the extra stop of light is a game changer for video. When shooting action photography (like a dance performance) with my EOS R and cranking the shutter speed, being able to keep my ISO lower is a big plus. In the end, the image stabilization isn't as big of a deal to me, and can actually detract from the image when shooting on gimbal or sticks. Even handheld, the size and weight of the lens helps manage micro jitters. In the end, image quality reigns supreme for me, and being able to get "Prime-like" quality in a zoom with that range is unbeatable. Hopefully this can help someone that is on the fence about which to choose.
Hi, thanks for your feedback. I am also a photographer and videographer and I would like to know in videography mode, does the AF motors makes noises on the 28-70 which could be really annoying while recording video with a micro on top of your camera ? I mean I own a rf 50mm and each time I record sound (I put a Zoom M3 on top of my canon r5) for wedding day most of the time, I get those continuous clic sound while my 50mm is focusing... it is really annoying... What about your thoughts ?
I usually have a deity S Mic 2s mounted to my C70 and it doesn't pick up any motor noise. I have picked up a little noise with the onboard scratch mic though.@@gregoryl.3445
I'm edging into a retirement-era photographic 'career', and have been looking very hard at these two lenses. I have the 24-70 f4, and it's been a work-horse for me. I love that focal range, but I really want to get 'faster' and have better low-light performance with a lower f-stop lens. Pricing is a huge concern (again, not currently professional with my photography), so the 24-70 f2.8 edges there. The camera + lens weight doesn't affect me much, as I usually have a battery-grip on the camera already, and I like the solid feel the weight gives. What I love even more is the solid image quality wide-open for the 28-70. And the fact I could leave a 35mm and 50mm prime at home, and take just the one 28-70 and have that extra aperture openness of 2.0 vs 2.8. Added to all of the above that I've just upgraded from an R to an R6 MkII, the lack of IS on the 28-70 lens is less an issue to me now. TLDR: I'm now leaning even more heavily towards the RF 28-70 F2.0.
Ridiculous. Because you didn't mention the bokeh. Shoot a portrait or any situation with people at f2, with any focal, and it will be much better than the 2.8 on 24-70. Not just "a little bit better", MUCH better.
The higher the focal length the less the perceived difference will be. You have to ask yourself, who will notice? Of course the photographer does, so this is something to take into account. But be honest, will the increased heft and bulkiness be worth it? You can only glance at f/2 images if you took the lens with you in the first place. My personal experience is, that e.g. I never really took my 70-200 f/2.8 with me back in the day because of its size and weight. Always went with the f/4 in the end. Well, if you‘re not me, considering the f/2 is perhaps the right thing. I would like to have that 28-70, too. I just know that for me (a hobbyist) the price would never be justifiable. Especially because I have fast 50 and 85 RF primes. The extra stop of light I would consider to be the main pro of the 28-70, can be the difference between 25600 and 51200 ISO, the latter I would consider no longer usable even with AI denoising - at least when you want a higher resolution picture.
@@HubieeeI'm technically a professional but consider myself a skilled hobbyist. I'll chime in that the weight of the 28-70 puts me off, plus when I test them it seems like it renders images warmer than the 24-70, but that might've been a quirk of the white balance I had in auto at the time.
The 28-70 is honestly so good many wedding photographers use it to replace primes. Yes the bokeh is a difference maker as well as just flat out better image quality than the 24-70. The distortion, fringing and vignette are also significant advantages to the new lens design. Yeah it’s heavy and so are all faster lenses when compared to a slower ones. Pros have literally changed systems just to have glass like the 28-70 f2
Bokeh is about aperture, focal range, and distance from the camera. Not just the aperture. 70-200 2.8 will look better then this 28-70 2.0 given the right circumstances.
The image stabilization is not an issue if you use it with the R5 or R6 that has IBIS and you get the full 8 stop. The image characteristic of the F2 gives it a very unique look.
Surely the important factor is image quality and for that the 28-70 wins hands down. After all the customer won’t give a damn shit what lens you used as long as optically you are producing pin sharp contrasting image and for that the 28-70 is the one.
its kindda of dumb to have Size and Weight as 2 different categories because its pretty much given that a bigger thicker lens is obviously going to be the heavier lens. Splitting size and weight into 2 category just give the 24-70 free point unnecessarily. Cant expect the 28-70 to be the same price as the 24-70 when you are getting a whole stop more. The comparison is very bias toward the 24-70, can really tell.
WOW, so many "comparisons" and yours is the first showing that barrel and pincushion distortion on the 24-70 ! That decides it for me, so easy now. I was pondering A-24-20 + 1.2 primes vs 28-70 and only my favorite 1.2 prime 50.
The 28-70 is a lens i would love to own but wound up getting the 24-70 used for 1699 so it was a no brainer for me. both are great though wish i could get them both lol ... Great video thanks
Thanks for the video, it’s a comparison I’ve been thinking about, too. It seems you have forgotten to turn off in camera corrections on the RF 28-70. other reviews show some distortion and vignetting on that lens. Thanks again anyway!
His tests is not accurate. Christopher frost tested the RF 28-70mm f2 and it has vignetting and distortion. This guy forgot to turn off the corrections.
A good comparison, James. It was useful for my understanding before I switch to the Canon system. Yes, Bokeh and Low light performance will be better for F2
To be honest I got a 28-70 f2 for a few months now, as a hybrid shooter I really think I want to trade it in for the 24-70 f2.8…. lighter wider and with image stability but less aperture
Great video. Thank you for the comparison. I want to ask you a question. Which lens is best for full body portraits, Canon RF 50mm F/1.8 STM or Canon RF 28-70mm F/2 L USM ? Thanks in advance.
I need help professional advice! I’ve got the R6 Mark II with the following lenses; RF 85mm F2/Macro RF 35mm F1.8/Macro RF 18mm - 150mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM I’m looking at selling them and getting one of these 2. What do you think?
Just to clarify, you're **absolutely** sure that corrections were turned off on the f/2 tests? For it to be a wider aperture AND have less vignetting is truly shocking. This seems to fly in the face of other reviews I have seen.
Good video but could do without the points. Obviously image quality would count more than weight or another variable for most photographers. If you want the lens for video, the IS matters more. So image quality should be like 3 points and weight like one point, but as I said, breakdown of pros and cons are all you need.
Hi Good review but miss the main reason for choosing the f2.0 which is the Bokeh difference where the f2.0 really stands out and is the reason many use it instead of multiple prime lenses. BR/Lars
i also have the EOS R i think the 2.8 will do for me, if u want to film just use their cheaper prime lenses that's what im going todo. the extra £1000 + just isn't worth it for me.
Your sub-scores should be weighted. Because we're talking about photographic lenses, the optical factors should be weighted higher than the practical attributes. For this reason, the 28-70 is clearly the superior lens and your test demonstrations affirm this. The 28-70 is the better investment for the optical quality pursuit.
Thank you for the comparison.
I own the 28-70 and have used the 24-70 extensively. I own a small creative agency shooting commercial photography as well as small and medium sized video productions, and the 28-70 has absolutely been the better choice for me. It's almost optically flawless and I love the way it handles flare while retaining contrast when shooting backlit or something like welding. Sure, it's a bit heavier, but when I've got my v90 rig built out for my C70 the weight difference is negligible. When shooting events where light can't be controlled, the extra stop of light is a game changer for video. When shooting action photography (like a dance performance) with my EOS R and cranking the shutter speed, being able to keep my ISO lower is a big plus. In the end, the image stabilization isn't as big of a deal to me, and can actually detract from the image when shooting on gimbal or sticks. Even handheld, the size and weight of the lens helps manage micro jitters.
In the end, image quality reigns supreme for me, and being able to get "Prime-like" quality in a zoom with that range is unbeatable. Hopefully this can help someone that is on the fence about which to choose.
@jakealbrecht Thank you for commenting. I am leaning towards the 28-70 myself.
Hi, thanks for your feedback. I am also a photographer and videographer and I would like to know in videography mode, does the AF motors makes noises on the 28-70 which could be really annoying while recording video with a micro on top of your camera ? I mean I own a rf 50mm and each time I record sound (I put a Zoom M3 on top of my canon r5) for wedding day most of the time, I get those continuous clic sound while my 50mm is focusing... it is really annoying... What about your thoughts ?
I usually have a deity S Mic 2s mounted to my C70 and it doesn't pick up any motor noise. I have picked up a little noise with the onboard scratch mic though.@@gregoryl.3445
@@gregoryl.3445is that the 50mm 1.2 or 1.8?
I'm edging into a retirement-era photographic 'career', and have been looking very hard at these two lenses. I have the 24-70 f4, and it's been a work-horse for me. I love that focal range, but I really want to get 'faster' and have better low-light performance with a lower f-stop lens. Pricing is a huge concern (again, not currently professional with my photography), so the 24-70 f2.8 edges there. The camera + lens weight doesn't affect me much, as I usually have a battery-grip on the camera already, and I like the solid feel the weight gives. What I love even more is the solid image quality wide-open for the 28-70. And the fact I could leave a 35mm and 50mm prime at home, and take just the one 28-70 and have that extra aperture openness of 2.0 vs 2.8. Added to all of the above that I've just upgraded from an R to an R6 MkII, the lack of IS on the 28-70 lens is less an issue to me now. TLDR: I'm now leaning even more heavily towards the RF 28-70 F2.0.
Ridiculous. Because you didn't mention the bokeh. Shoot a portrait or any situation with people at f2, with any focal, and it will be much better than the 2.8 on 24-70. Not just "a little bit better", MUCH better.
The higher the focal length the less the perceived difference will be.
You have to ask yourself, who will notice? Of course the photographer does, so this is something to take into account.
But be honest, will the increased heft and bulkiness be worth it? You can only glance at f/2 images if you took the lens with you in the first place.
My personal experience is, that e.g. I never really took my 70-200 f/2.8 with me back in the day because of its size and weight.
Always went with the f/4 in the end. Well, if you‘re not me, considering the f/2 is perhaps the right thing.
I would like to have that 28-70, too. I just know that for me (a hobbyist) the price would never be justifiable.
Especially because I have fast 50 and 85 RF primes.
The extra stop of light I would consider to be the main pro of the 28-70, can be the difference between 25600 and 51200 ISO, the latter I would consider no longer usable even with AI denoising - at least when you want a higher resolution picture.
@@HubieeeI'm technically a professional but consider myself a skilled hobbyist. I'll chime in that the weight of the 28-70 puts me off, plus when I test them it seems like it renders images warmer than the 24-70, but that might've been a quirk of the white balance I had in auto at the time.
The 28-70 is honestly so good many wedding photographers use it to replace primes. Yes the bokeh is a difference maker as well as just flat out better image quality than the 24-70. The distortion, fringing and vignette are also significant advantages to the new lens design. Yeah it’s heavy and so are all faster lenses when compared to a slower ones. Pros have literally changed systems just to have glass like the 28-70 f2
Bokeh is about aperture, focal range, and distance from the camera. Not just the aperture. 70-200 2.8 will look better then this 28-70 2.0 given the right circumstances.
This helped a lot. Getting 24-70 and an r6ii.
28-70 ridiculously large and price. Not the camera I would carry around all day . 24-70 is just fine.
I have them both but after long used I sold 24-70mm f2.8 because 28-70mm f2 is awesome lens 👌👌👌
The image stabilization is not an issue if you use it with the R5 or R6 that has IBIS and you get the full 8 stop. The image characteristic of the F2 gives it a very unique look.
Isnt IBIS only have 2 stops?
Great comparison! I may go with the F2 for its sharpness.
Surely the important factor is image quality and for that the 28-70 wins hands down. After all the customer won’t give a damn shit what lens you used as long as optically you are producing pin sharp contrasting image and for that the 28-70 is the one.
Autofocus for fast moving subject is faster in the RF 24-70.
You forgot to turn off vignetting and distortion correction for the RF 28-70mm F2. It does have distortion and vignetting.
Fr no way a zoom lens like this has no visiable distortion
its kindda of dumb to have Size and Weight as 2 different categories because its pretty much given that a bigger thicker lens is obviously going to be the heavier lens. Splitting size and weight into 2 category just give the 24-70 free point unnecessarily. Cant expect the 28-70 to be the same price as the 24-70 when you are getting a whole stop more. The comparison is very bias toward the 24-70, can really tell.
Absolutely Excellent Review, Thank You.
Both is a must
WOW, so many "comparisons" and yours is the first showing that barrel and pincushion distortion on the 24-70 ! That decides it for me, so easy now. I was pondering A-24-20 + 1.2 primes vs 28-70 and only my favorite 1.2 prime 50.
The 28-70 is a lens i would love to own but wound up getting the 24-70 used for 1699 so it was a no brainer for me. both are great though wish i could get them both lol ... Great video thanks
24-70mm with all equals is more macro capable. Able to focus extremely close, specually on wide.
Thanks for the video, it’s a comparison I’ve been thinking about, too. It seems you have forgotten to turn off in camera corrections on the RF 28-70. other reviews show some distortion and vignetting on that lens. Thanks again anyway!
His tests is not accurate. Christopher frost tested the RF 28-70mm f2 and it has vignetting and distortion. This guy forgot to turn off the corrections.
A good comparison, James. It was useful for my understanding before I switch to the Canon system. Yes, Bokeh and Low light performance will be better for F2
well done
To be honest I got a 28-70 f2 for a few months now, as a hybrid shooter I really think I want to trade it in for the 24-70 f2.8….
lighter wider and with image stability but less aperture
28-70 F2 🔥
Interesting comparison video! Thanks for the tips.😊
Great video. Thank you for the comparison.
I want to ask you a question.
Which lens is best for full body portraits,
Canon RF 50mm F/1.8 STM or Canon RF 28-70mm F/2 L USM ?
Thanks in advance.
I need help professional advice!
I’ve got the R6 Mark II with the following lenses;
RF 85mm F2/Macro
RF 35mm F1.8/Macro
RF 18mm - 150mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM
I’m looking at selling them and getting one of these 2.
What do you think?
Another great review!!!
For hiking or outdoor photography id go with the 2.8
For indoor photography id go with the f2.
Just to clarify, you're **absolutely** sure that corrections were turned off on the f/2 tests? For it to be a wider aperture AND have less vignetting is truly shocking. This seems to fly in the face of other reviews I have seen.
He probably forgot to turn it off 99 percent sure because no zoom lens will every have no distortion like that its impossible optically.
Good video but could do without the points. Obviously image quality would count more than weight or another variable for most photographers. If you want the lens for video, the IS matters more. So image quality should be like 3 points and weight like one point, but as I said, breakdown of pros and cons are all you need.
you have not compared the image quality at 70mm and 50mm
how is distortion at 28mm for the 24-70mm ?
Hi Good review but miss the main reason for choosing the f2.0 which is the Bokeh difference where the f2.0 really stands out and is the reason many use it instead of multiple prime lenses. BR/Lars
I have an EOS R that does not have IBIS, should i go for the F2.8 or F2?
i also have the EOS R i think the 2.8 will do for me, if u want to film just use their cheaper prime lenses that's what im going todo. the extra £1000 + just isn't worth it for me.
Very cool, 🙏
Thanks!
You said you're going to start right now and then you said so just before we start 😮
Your sub-scores should be weighted. Because we're talking about photographic lenses, the optical factors should be weighted higher than the practical attributes. For this reason, the 28-70 is clearly the superior lens and your test demonstrations affirm this. The 28-70 is the better investment for the optical quality pursuit.
Rf28-70 f2 L has a good picture
Most professionals would recommend the 28-70, it just better...;)>
The second you named the lenses wrong in the intro, I lost interest. Smh.
cameras have IS. 28-70 f2 wins.
I will definitely agree, tell me something special about the RF 28-70mm. Just wish it was a bit cheaper so I could afford it 😂
Plus there are reports that sometimes the ibis interferes with the lens IS. That’s one reason I chose the R8 over the R6 M2.
it shoots like a prime at all focal lenghts@@PhotoFeaver
3500 and 3000!!!
The different???
$500.00