I would group the 20th century material differently. Just a tip ... - Modernist Abstraction 1900 - 1945 - Antimodernism (Dada, Surrealism, New Objectivity) - Modern Realism (American early 20C, Mexican muralists, nazi and fascist art plus Greenberg's kitsch) - Then the postwar neo-avant garde including abex. - Pop art - Postmodernism - contemporary aesthetics This is based on Krauss Bois and Foster.
I think you stated progressives were pro-industry and conservatives were pro-environment then, a role reversal. Who had control of industry then, causing pollution, and continues to have control and causing pollution? Pollution existed then and industry was a contributor. You mentioned Progressives wanted to take control of industry, but they never did. Also, taking control of it is different than keeping the negative aspects of it such as pollution. Can you elaborate or give references?
Unfortunately this movement in art was a bit like a con and even though it is understandable that a ready is art, I feel that the artist has to transform it into a new way of understanding visually. Art is a language and can evolve, but there is no bounds in creativity.
If your whole movement is designed to show that art itself is a fraud, then the method makes sense. Again, I think even Duchamp would think it was odd for people to take it seriously when the point was that we shouldn't take anything in art seriously. If you think all art is a kind of fraud, then a urinal is just an extreme way to point that out.
It's hard for many people to understand the interwar mood. It helps to demonstrate the links between the concept of high culture and art prior to roughly 1914 and the cultural politics of monarchy, modern European empire and the 19th century bourgeoisie. Americans are notoriously bad at grasping this due to their own deeply ingrained cultural myths. @@arthistorywithtravisleecla6343
smart man!
thank you!
I would group the 20th century material differently. Just a tip ...
- Modernist Abstraction 1900 - 1945
- Antimodernism (Dada, Surrealism, New Objectivity)
- Modern Realism (American early 20C, Mexican muralists, nazi and fascist art plus Greenberg's kitsch)
- Then the postwar neo-avant garde including abex.
- Pop art
- Postmodernism
- contemporary aesthetics
This is based on Krauss Bois and Foster.
Wouldn’t we also need to have a pro modernist group for people like the Italian Futurists
I think you stated progressives were pro-industry and conservatives were pro-environment then, a role reversal. Who had control of industry then, causing pollution, and continues to have control and causing pollution? Pollution existed then and industry was a contributor. You mentioned Progressives wanted to take control of industry, but they never did. Also, taking control of it is different than keeping the negative aspects of it such as pollution. Can you elaborate or give references?
Unfortunately this movement in art was a bit like a con and even though it is understandable that a ready is art, I feel that the artist has to transform it into a new way of understanding visually. Art is a language and can evolve, but there is no bounds in creativity.
If your whole movement is designed to show that art itself is a fraud, then the method makes sense. Again, I think even Duchamp would think it was odd for people to take it seriously when the point was that we shouldn't take anything in art seriously. If you think all art is a kind of fraud, then a urinal is just an extreme way to point that out.
It's hard for many people to understand the interwar mood. It helps to demonstrate the links between the concept of high culture and art prior to roughly 1914 and the cultural politics of monarchy, modern European empire and the 19th century bourgeoisie.
Americans are notoriously bad at grasping this due to their own deeply ingrained cultural myths.
@@arthistorywithtravisleecla6343
Stalin was not a “dictator” he was a hero who helped lead the red army to victory & save Europe.
Lmao
Girl I’m a communist and even I don’t like Stalin, where is this victory and safety you speak of??
Gavrilo Princip was not an anarchist.