How did rapid catastrophic processes form the Grand Canyon? - Dr. Steve Austin
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2020
- Taken from "Beyond Is Genesis History? Vol 1 : Rocks & Fossils." Check it out on our website: bit.ly/BIGH-1
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Overlooking the Grand Canyon, Del Tackett and geologist Steve Austin discussing the history of the rock strata from Creation Week to the present day, where we are introduced to the conventional paradigm argued by Charles Lyell and Charles Darwin. Afterward, Tackett and Dr. Austin venture down to the Colorado River and talk about the catastrophic processes were necessary to carve out such a deep canyon through thousands of feet of rock.
Dr. Austin is a field research geologist who has done research on six of the seven continents of the world. His research has taken him by helicopter into the crater on Mount St. Helens, by bush plane onto glaciers in Alaska, by raft through the Grand Canyon, on horseback into the high Sierra, by elevator into the world’s deepest coal mines, by SCUBA onto the Great Barrier Reef, by rail into Korean backcountry, by foot onto barren plateaus of southern Argentina, and by four-wheel drive into remote desert areas of Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Dr. Austin received his PhD from Pennsylvania State University in sedimentary geology.
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Someone needs to do a cgi, showing the grand canyon being carved out by receding flood waters. That would be so epic!
Haha that revolutionize the science haha
It was craved by the Grand Lake.
On this subject I would like to see a show on the Scab Lands in the upper northwest.
Check out Randal Carlson's work on the channeled Scab Lands. He believes it to be cataclysmic flooding from the melting of the ice sheets caused by either a comet strike or possibly a solar event. It's looking like we came out of the last ice age rapidly with a sea level rise of up to 400 ft in a matter or days (or hours)
I live in scabland area Washington State. Floods happened over 12,000 years ago, by glaciers that were 100,000 year old.
If geologists are accepting the idea of a catastrophe, they're being awful quiet about it.
I've been to the grand canyon , it's magnificent. 🌈🗺️🌞
This lie that the Colorado river cut out the Grand Canyon will never be removed from the text books because that would mean it was cut out because of the Flood in the time of Noah.....
@@hansdemos6510 I only wish I had the same faith in people as do you. There are countless examples of incorrect science in textbooks TODAY. It's politics, man.
You're absolutely right. The earth was moved from its foundation and the North Pole moved. Ice was suddenly melting under the sun. Everybody tries to blot Jehovah from our history, but Jehovah is our history.
@@hansdemos6510 People are biased when they are not believers. To find or see Jehovah in anything at all is contrary to them.
@tsimahei but Schweitzer never claimed to find soft tissue, so why would she need to be defended?
And why is it a lie? Just think about this for a moment? If one mile of dense rock was laid down as erosion from the Flood, where did all that sediment come from? I don't see any mountains nearby. And why didn't a lot of this appear in the Pacific, off the coast? If the Flood was 5 miles deep at current sea level, how could that water hold 1 mile of dense rock in suspension? Truth is, it can't.
We have lots of evidence given to us by God that the universe is extremely old. The literal biblical interpretation of a young Earth is thus wrong! Such Modern Pharisees are looking to the ink and missing the spirit (2 Cor. 3:3-8).
Three miles of sediment must indicate the ocean was flowing over the continent as it slid to the west, but the flow indicators show the opposite. This would be a very deep ocean, obviously. With volcanic ash from Mexico deposited in the Utah Grand Staircase, it’s hard to predict flow direction without taking the tidal pull from the moon into account.
Praise God for those like you that are courageous to speak the truth in this deceptive time!
But is it truth? When those who misinterpret scripture so that it disagrees with God's evidence, the problem is in the biblical interpretation, the interpretation of physical reality, or both!
@@RodMartinJr You are making up straw man issues.
As in pre-Darwin and pre source hypothesis society it's again possible to reconcile the literal biblical statements with the natural world around us without refraining to exegetical gymnastics at all.
Source hypothesis is an outdated hilarious approach.
It's just your institutional bias to accept that as well as Theilhard taught your ilk to generally give up any resistance towards Darwin's thoughts, no matter how much bloodshed came from that ideology with all its epistemological flaws.
Why don't you just stick to your postmodern institution of belittling tradition preservation?
Did your ilk already agree on a final catalog of which passages of the Bible are considered definitely inspired? I guess not one of you agrees with the other what is mere figure of speech and what is really meant to provide substantial solace to your soul.
Basically there's nothing unquestioned. Just your personal biography teaches you to keep some traditions dearly while your colleagues down the street just mainly attack them.
Get your epistemology straight first before mingling your opinions here with serious persons that rest their questions on more than just a run of the mill existencialism.
That's really no basis for serious talk.
How old is your prestigious church organ? Are you offspring of famous pioneers of your local congregation?
@@RodMartinJr what are the achievements Rod Martin, Sr. is famous for?
Long line of full time church professionals?
@@RodMartinJr its only an issue for christians to accept anything before so called god and jesus big bang makes more sense on fairness never witnessed anything godly ever
@silent listenener, curious that you would post a comment and then delete it.
You said, "its only an issue for christians to accept anything before so called god and jesus big bang makes more sense on fairness never witnessed anything godly ever."
The lack of proper punctuation in your comment makes understanding your post somewhat problematic, but I'll give it a try.
Actually, secularists have a problem accepting dogma, too. The "Clovis First" fiasco is only one of hundreds of examples of science being derailed by blind acceptance. The few scientists who dared to ignore the "Clovis First" dogma helped to remove that impediment to science. The "climate change" nonsense is yet another form of secular insanity parading as "logic."
Big Bang does indeed make sense. And the "force" behind that start of the universe was none other than the Supreme, perfect Cause known to most of us as God.
And I truly pity you who have never experienced anything beyond your own limited, physical existence. Perhaps, one day, you can experience the spiritual half of reality and start to "see" that there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I submit that the last of the flood drainage itself near the end was enough on its own to carve out the canyon in that area, and not some burst lake as he suggests.. People forget that a far bigger erosion took away nearly all the land above the Grand Canyon for a vast number of miles leaving only buttes and mesas projecting higher. Monument Valley's thousand-foot-tall sentinels are mere erosional remnants of what was once there leaving a landscape so torn away that it's like the Grand Canyon inside out. The Rocky Mountains themselves were torn away at their eastern leading edge by the torrent. Whatever once stood in what is now the western Great Plains was obliterated by a fluvial torrent that that stretched in the final phases of the Flood drainage from the Rocky Mountains in the West, across vast terrain in the East finally bounded by the Appalachian Mountains. The Grand Canyon was a mere final trickle in that region.
The sheer scale of the Great Flood is really incomprehensible. Massive powerful bodies of water.
Love you Steve Austin and Andrew Snelling. Thank you so much!!! Please keep up your GREAT work. I really think your geology lessons are helping convince many to BELIEVE in Jesus Christ!
It can't do this.
That's a task too much.
You can merely remove obstacles, hindrances and stumbling stones to natural theology (Creators hints, demands of natural law, need for a Savior, ...).
But faith in Christ never comes ever from natural law, natural revelation, acceptance of a Creator and superior law maker. That's considered so called pre-evangelism and obstacle removal.
But it has no regenerative power in itself at all.
The one and only source of spiritual renewal is the supernatural revelation of the Gospel and it's fruits are supernatural conversion of any believer, which is never a natural/rational process.
You would need the Holy Spirits work with that which is bound to the supernaturally revealed Scriptures and Means of Grace in these days.
It's also making sense because merely learning about a mighty creator and law maker can maybe create awe and not seldomly fear as we are weak and not comparable to his perfection.
But only the supernaturally revealed Gospel regenerates a person born into original sin and gives a truly thankful relationship with the Savior-Creator.
Without that even with the best apologetics one is either a pharisaic hypocrite or if a realistic person filled with fear for retribution because of imperfection and sins.
Natural theology is merely a starting point for real religious talk, but it doesn't convert anyone to Christian faith.
There's at a certain point no way around the message which was considered a "shame to the Jews and a folly to the Greeks" as Paul said.
We can't"prove" people into heaven without risking to speak also about the "foolishness of God"(Corinthians), which is the Gospel that surpasses our reasoning.
That’s funny, this actually convinced me to not believe in Jesus Christ
Complete grifter - no flood, no way, no evidence.
SuperPhest, I agree. This really builds up my confidence in the scriptures regarding 6 Day Creationism.
The evidence is there, but sadly some will not believe, even if they saw a man rise from the dead.
Thank you so much for your work and posting on UA-cam. God bless all team involved in this documentary.
Telling you comically easily disproved lies is not work it should be criminal
@@darkeen42 you have the right to believe in what you. I decided to believe the truth.
@@Nelson373737 learn real geology and see what a joke this guy is
@@Nelson373737 giant floods don't meander like the canyon they go straight.
@@Nelson373737 what makes you think the Bible is true? The age it was drilled into your head you know when you also believed in Santa. Grow up out of this one too
Have you looked at the Olive Grove in Turkey, after the earthquake about 1 month ago?
They look like a mini grand canyon.
Can Grand Canyon have been made that way?
I know that they tell us it's made of water erosion, but I think water erosion should look smooth.
Grand Canyon is nothing but smooth, it looks like it was made yesterday, or maybe 10,000 years ago at best.
Pyramid and sphynx erosions look older than Grand Canyon.
I think earthquakes on a massive scale must have been part of the formation of the Grand Canyon, but there are erosion features like the Lake Missoula flood, so I think the quakes were probably only a spreading event that gave the floodwater a favorable path to begin carving it out.
@@valerieprice1745 I agree
I agree
As the plate was thrust upwards out of the ocean the massive water displacement formed the Grand Canyon.
I've always thought that it would be likely that the layers seen in the canyon would not have fully solidified at the time the canyon was carved, being still very freshly deposited by the global flood. This would help explain the fact that the canyon is so large and also the immense size of the many side canyons.
The upper layers of the canyon may not have solidified at the time they were carved out, but the basement layers (i.e. below the great unconformity/pre-flood) would have been solid rock. Just goes to show the power of water.
zero evidence... Canyon formed over 1 million years, and is still forming. You have been lied to. Rock strata to 100 million years to form when area was a shallow sea for 1 billion years. there is NO 6,000 year in any geologic scale.
My view is that the rock was already solidified, which is why it is so jagged. Soft material erodes smoothly, hard material requires cavitation to rip it apart - much like the Columbia River basin in eastern Washington. I’ve seen both formations and they both show cavitation, not erosion.
@@ZhmiKnopa I disagree. I have seen overnight flood erosion in soft clay and sand on construction sites here in New York's Finger Lakes region that left miniature jagged canyons in the sediment complete with fluvial sand and silt deltas at the very tail end, along with jagged V-shaped erosional side gorges. Much of the delta created was stratified with different clay, sand, and silt layers and then itself was cut into forming yet another jagged gorge. All in one night.
Was just down at lake havasu city. Being from Washington state the area looks more like the scab lands of Eastern Washington. The fact that there are hugh ruble piles ie sand bars that go from the mountains to the west of the Colorado all the way to the east. And it's not just ocean floor sand. It has large broken rocks and smaller tumbled rocks all intermixed hundreds of feet deep. I'm thinking that this area from Las Vegas south to at least the parker dam area could have been a settling area for a large flood and the material probably came partly from the grand canyon.
In other way, why other rivers didn't make the same thing.?
This is a refreshing look at the world and thanks for posting 🙏
God is amazing...
Yes, He is. And even more amazing that God would make scripture so difficult to understand that it would force people to be humble in order to fathom its meaning. Yet, too many Modern Pharisees choose to look to the ink (the letter), rather than the spirit, and miss everything (2 Cor. 3:3-8).
@@mangeygypsynunya6451 if you can not see His finger prints on everything around you, then you are wilfully blind!
@@RodMartinJr Biblical exegesis doesn't seem to be your forté, right?
I mean, a strong opinion is also worth something.
Not everyone has the time to do dilligent research.
So, some source hypothesis etc. is then instead a nice and entertaining fairy tale from the 19th century etc..
Funny to see that still pop up among slightly elitist liberals too lazy to actually do the academic leg work because there's enough institutional incentive to behave like that.
I mean, it's at least a respectable tradition. Haha 😂😆
@@chrise842 And you have proven that logic is not your forte.
@@RodMartinJr Sure! That's a real argument! What should I say?
Where are all the other similarly sized canyons globally?
Exactly what I always say
These guys are great and the earth displays the flood in many different ways
Lol sure
@tsimahei coal can be formed in weeks, with heat and pressure, in ideal conditions of a lab. Heat is the main problem as no flood model accounts for the temperatures to create coal without also boiling noah alive.
Nope! The Great Flood of Noah occurred 27,970 BC. Right when one species, who offended God's purpose, went extinct. And Adam? He came to Earth 10,434,130 BC.
God created the nature studied by science. The final word is His -- not those who *_misinterpret_* scripture.
@@nunyabisnass1141 - _"Heat is the main problem as no flood model accounts for the temperatures to create coal without also boiling noah alive."_
*The fracturing and constant shifting along virtually all fault lines would have created incredible amounts of heat from frictional ground movement..* plenty for coal formation, fossilization, oil, sandstone and more.. all of which require heat, pressure and water. *The heat would have been generated literally miles below the Ark.*
2,000+ views in 2 hours. These videos are excellent and it is showing in the views. Thank you so much, again.
Millions of people watched iron Man movies the first day it came out. That doesn't make anything that happened in that movie accurate or true. A lot of people can see something that's not true.
No they are just comforting lies weak people flock to
These series are so interesting. Thank you for helping me see what possibly could have happened as I read scripture and apply what I’ve read. Thank you so very much!
They are all lies
If it happens fast it would be a straight line not meander like the canyon does think things through for a few minutes
you are reading wrong book if you want to learn geology. No flood, no instant Grand Canyon... you've been lied to.
@@darkeen42not so. If you run experiments with water erosion, you see that the difference in hardness of rock layers determines the direction of flow. The same principle is evident in the Lake Missoula flood path. Even the tremendous, fast moving flow of the Lake Missoula flood is meandering, with backwash etc.
@@valerieprice1745 lol that's not one hundredth as fast as the flood would have been
the waters were there and gone fast, mega cataclysmic style.
Cavitation erosion in naval propellers can give more examples supporting the power of water flow
The Grand Canyon looks similar to a formation on Mars, which is believed to have been caused by, what was ostensibly, an electric arc.
Other scientists believe there was water there, removed from the planet by a gravitational battle between two massive bodies - presumably a loose moon or planet-sized piece of debris may have passed through our solar system. This may also explain the number of comets and the gas or water deposited on Saturn.
Absolutely great ,wish he / they could do a cartoon vid on it for kids and yes me,
The music was beautiful, can I find it online.
How pleasant to the eyes your land so beautiful 🙏🏼
Another great study! Thanks for this info.
I,m loving these videos....thanks a million and Glory be to God.
The Moon also shows striations in the mountains, did water do that? Mars hills are striated, so Mars must have had water, they say. All planets including Earth really show the affects of electricity/plasma shaping and erosion, and we can reproduce those effects in experiments. The Colorado is an electrical discharge of magnitudes we can not accept, but the model for water creating the Grand Canyon does not hold up if you accept the laminar flow model, just as it does not hold up for glaciers having carved valleys. In my area I found many localised, strong remnant magnetic dips along the river banks (basalt) which could only have been caused by intense lightning, but no one can tell me when such events would have occurred.
I know you said it jokingly but Mars actually did have water now that doesn't directly correspond to you argument but still just incase you didn't know
@@abramdelisle5746 "but Mars actually did have water " Can that be proven without a doubt?
@@thedarkmoon2341 yes actually it still had water just frozen beneath the surface but beyond a shadow of a doubt it and water It
Dr. Austin's presentation reminds me of a book I read in the 1960s. The Classic Global Flood Theory of Whitcomb and Morris In 1961, John Whitcomb and Henry Morris published The Genesis Flood, launching the current young-earth creationist movement.
Penn and Teller created the Universe in a Big Magic Hat!
QUESTION ABOUT DIAMONDS
Carbon -14 dating is based on the fact that living organisms-like trees, plants, people, and animals-absorb Carbon-14 into their tissue. When they die, the Carbon-14 starts to change into other atoms Carbon -13 and Carbon -12 over time. Scientists can then estimate how long an object has been dead by counting the remaining Carbon -14 atoms. Carbon-14 has a half-life of about 5,730 years. That means half the atoms in a sample will change into other atoms, a process known as “decay. Over millions of years Carbon-14 should not exist in diamonds if they are supposedly millions of years old according to scientists,; but C14 does exist in diamonds. Because of the short length of the carbon-14 half-life, carbon dating is only accurate for items that are thousands to tens of thousands of years old.
Now if we use the ½ life curve this means for diamonds to lose all their C14 it would take about 69 thousand years, much greater than 6 thousand. So, the question is: did the Earth as a rock in space exist before the creation story? I would appreciate your opinion.
So no earthquake or asteroid contributed to the Grand Canyon in any way, only water, a huge amount of water? Was there erosion, cavitation AND sedimentary deposit on top of what was carved out? It seems like earlier sections of this series indicated that layers were from sediment building up the steps in northern Arizona up to Utah?
"What's going on here requires a simple explanation not a complex one therefore we need to think outside of the box."
Rapid moving water did that. Anyone who's played in the sand at the beach can see that
Just look at the Colorado River outlet at the Sea of Cortez. That whole sea looks like a giant washout with Baja on one side and Mexico on the other. It looks like a giant washout caused my a massive flood.
That's because the Colorado River has been dumping its sediment into the sea of Cortez for millions of years.
Yes! Uniformitarianism is a bad "principle" of Modern Geology. Catastrophistic Cataclysm is the right option!
I believe the grand canyon like the Palo Dura canyon was cut in one massive flood. Remember when you were a kid and plated in the sand at the beach? How fast it washed away? So much happened when the chicxulub meteor impact took place and when the younger dryas impacts happened.
Professional wrestler turned geologist! ❤️amazing😄
I think that the EU can add a lot to your catastrophic processes theory. It's a lot grander than just water when plasma is involved.
Not sure how a single flood event can create thousands of layers some of which are alternating layers of ocean bottom and desert sand.
How about layers at an angle like in the beginning of the video.
How about fossils progressing in complexity from bottom to top or radioactive dating showing bottom layers older by millions of years than the top ones.
If it was caused by several massive and successive tidal waves, then it is possible. Pangea being broken up rapidly would cause massive tectonic activity which in turn would cause this successive action.
Look up "Noah's flood and catastrophic plate tectonics". The vid is 23 minutes long, and it lays our the progression of the flood in a scientific manner. It does bring in scripture, just so you know. Not trying to change your mind. You can do with this what you will.
Blessings.
@@reidveryan9414 Here's another thought. Noah's ark was built from wood at a time before iron. It was supposedly larger than any wooden boat ever made. The largest wooden ship, reinforced with iron fittings, and designed by professional engineers suffered with leakage between the planks during high seas as the wood flexed.
Now imagine a bigger boat, made with out iron by 4 people without steel tools and no knowledge of ship building. Imagine this unlikely vessel surviving not just horrendous storms caused by this cataclysm but the "several massive and successive tidal waves" Tidal waves that could carve out the Grand Canyon in days would have crushed a modern steel vessel much less a wooden one.
The whole flood story is unbelievable, once you give it some unbiased thought.
Where did the water come from and where did it go?
How did tree dwelling animals from Australia and South America get to the Middle East to board a boat and how did they get back?
How did humanity increase it's numbers and spread throughout the world so fast since we have writings from Egyptians and China not long after the flood?
How come an unbiased scientific community sees no evidence of a world wide flood?
How did so many different species fit in a 400 ft boat?
If it was only 2 of each "kind" how did they evolve so fast to become the millions of species we see today after only 6,000 years?
How did 8 people feed and remove excrement from so many animals?
What did the carnivores eat, not only during the flood but after if there were only two of each animal?
What did any creature eat after the flood killed off all the vegetation?
How did they store enough food for a year?
How did salt water fish survive so much fresh water?
How did a wooden boat survive the storms and tumult of such a cataclysm?
As you see this is an improbable story, given just a little thought.
@@bcreason well, I know where you stand. I'll be praying that my God, the living God, the same God these men speak of, will make Himself known to you. He has a way of doing that, and He does it all the time.
Blessings.
@@reidveryan9414That is not a compelling answer. You can still believe in God without all of this crappy pseudoscience.
Do we have an idea of where the post flood recession lake might have been located, or a good candidate location?
There were a number of post-Flood lakes likely responsible for the carving of the Grand Canyon. These lakes were located to the east and northeast of the canyon itself. You can see several images of what these lakes may have looked like from above in the article linked below. The article is a little lengthy, but you should be able to scroll down to the images:
answersingenesis.org/geology/grand-canyon/remembering-spillover-erosion-grand-canyon/
Austin is very enjoyable to listen to. The millions of years of erosion theory never has sat well with me from a secular point of view. It just never seemed, by looking at things like the Grand Canyon and mountain ranges, that they were formed as slowly as has been claimed. They look like they were formed much more violently.
Well technically mountains are formed violently just the scale is so big it seems slow to us
@@abramdelisle5746 it seems to you. Not me.
@@kevinthompson2308 ok so if it's not tectonic plate collisions that cuase mountains then what does
@@abramdelisle5746 I did not say it was not plate tectonics that caused them. You jumped to the conclusion that I did.
@@kevinthompson2308 your right I did. So what exactly are you saying
That is the bottom line because Stone Cold said so.
Simply awesome!
There was no global flood . When Genesis was written it wasn’t known that the earth is a globe . It was thought to be a flat disc . All the rock layers can be easily dated today .
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Yes, easily dated but not correctly. With your life on the line, would you take 10 samples from the same age layer you yourself gathered (so no excuse), send them in to 10 different labs to be dated and stand by the testing that they'd all be the same age? Remember, you die if they don't.
Bible says in Isaiah 40.22; “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,”
The word translated “circle” here is the Hebrew word “chuwg” which is also translated “circuit” or “compass”. It indicates something spherical, rounded or arched, not something that is flat.
The Bible also says that Noah’s Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat, Genesis 8.4. This mountains are in Turkey and Government there recognize that Noah’s Ark still there cover with mud.
Genesis chapter 7, the global flood.
The earth;
Isaiah 40:22
“It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
King James Version (KJV)
Where did all the sediment end up?
The deposit covered more than 100 acres thirty to thirty-five feet deep used to make up Hoover dam lake mead was some of it
The Canyon is so beautiful.
Great discussion! Love the scenery! Always enjoy Steve's insights..since the early 90s.
I cut a trench in my backyard 6 inches deep with channeled rain water no backhoe. The flow of the colorado is slowing due to lake mead hoover dam.
G C was formed within weeks
Can Dr. Steve Austin do a segment where he talks about how the animal fossils are layered in the Grand Canyon? Evolutionists say that the way the animal fossils are layered in the different strata proves their paradigm.....but I, as a Bible believing Christian, do not believe that and know that Christian geologists can have a better explanation. Please do a segment on that!! God bless you all! Your videos bring me such hope and peace. 🙏❤️
Look up the video on" Fundamental Experiments in Stratification." it is a simple experiment that proves how layers are laid down by rapid deposition in moving water or dry material doesn't matter. True Science is from God. Read the book of Job many examples of the one true God creator of the heavens and the earth who rules by his wisdom and endless eternal power.
@@billburkhalter411 Thank you!! I will definitely look into that!! I just knew that Christian scientist would have an answer to that, but I've never seen a video on it from a Christian perspective. Thanks again for the suggestion. I am excited to watch the video!! God bless you!!
You must understand that marine shell organisms and reptiles likely did not float, while warm blooded organisms tend to bloat and float. Therefore, the heavier organisms and those which lived on ocean floors would have been deposited in the earliest sediments, while bodies of birds and mammals which fill rapidly with gas should be deposited later.
The hopi Indians have a history story that has been past down through time that 2k yrs ago, the earth shook violently and a huge lake dissapeared. Well, 2k yrs ago, jesus was crucified and the earth shook, and a huge multi state dry lake bed is just north of the canyon. If that water was left from the flood and the bank broke during the crucifixion, that large amount of water would cut that canyon in days to weeks.
Thanks for the history info. I'll have to research this one out. Blessings.
Very interesting.
It’s possible that a spillover of water from a large lake (Hopi Lake) draining the Colorado Plateau from the east made the primary cut of the eastern Canyon over a relatively short period of time. However, that theory is now twenty years old. There’s recent evidence to refute the spillover theory and reasonable current disagreement among researchers.
@TheRealTomWendel, you bring up an important point about the evolving nature of scientific theories. It's true that scientific models can change and adapt over time as new evidence emerges. However, it's crucial to recognize that just because a model is a couple of decades old doesn't automatically render it incorrect.
In the case of the spillover model regarding the formation of the Grand Canyon, it's important to remember that scientific understanding is an iterative process. While recent evidence may challenge certain aspects of the model, it doesn't necessarily invalidate the model as a whole. In fact, many well-established scientific models have undergone refinement and adjustment as more data became available.
The spillover model has played a significant role in our understanding of the Grand Canyon's geological history. It has provided a framework for explaining the formation of the Canyon, including the lower Colorado River and its associated features. Even if it's eventually proven to be incorrect, the model has been instrumental in stimulating scientific inquiry and encouraging geologists to think differently about the Canyon's history.
This scenario highlights the importance of scientific debate and the pursuit of knowledge. It's through the process of questioning and testing hypotheses, like the spillover model, that we continue to advance our understanding of the natural world. Whether this model ultimately stands the test of time or not, it has already made valuable contributions to scholarly science and discovery, and it reminds us that scientific understanding is a dynamic and ever-evolving endeavor.
@@IsGenesisHistoryI appreciate your comment. It may be the case that the spillover model explains part of the Canyon’s formation without explaining it in its entirety. Convergent and changing flows in the lower Canyon may represent another part of the story, along with volcanic flows causing temporary damming in the lower Canyon. In any case, it’s amazing to consider how much the understanding has evolved in just the last few decades. It’s now commonly understood that the carving of the Canyon took much less time and involved more dynamic and cataclysmic processes than previously thought.
He is very articulate, I could not agree more.
He is a grifter, peddling pseudoscience. Zero evidence of global flood
This was not a washout! It is classic water erosion.
A meandering river river is clear, undeniable evidence the river has had a consistent flow for a very long time.
Locally we have amazing rivers, like the Buffalo River, White River, and Little Red River, that have eaten though a raised plateau (Ozarks). I can kayak the day, traveling 10 miles, and end the day a mile from my start.
The problem is compounded, because meanders eventually change the direction of a river leaving clear evidence of its past path. So there must be an explanation of its current meandering and past.
Absolutely no way the wandering Buffalo with its amazing beauty and cliffs were from a massive flood. The same holds true for the Colorado River. The video is silly for any person who as spent any time outside.
IMO many of those who believe and teach long ages "KNOW" the truth of God's Word (Biblical view point) and why the surface of the earth looks as it does today. They just CAN NOT bring themselves to come to Jesus Christ and repent before GOD. They not only refuse to humble themselves before GOD, but they also stand in the way of those who might be seeking The Lord.
A geologic Petri Dish!
Thank you! I showed this video to my kids, today, as we are studying national parks from a creationist perspective, in our homeschool!
You are what give homeschooling a bad name
poor kids, I feel sorry for them - feed them the big lie about Earth and time. When they grow up and can think for themselves, will they say you are a liar as I do right now?
@@69eddieD thank you for comment
Reminds me of the canyon that was formed in a week on the side of the Oroville Dam spillway. It was cut deep into bedrock. That was tiny compared to the Grand Canyon. It makes sense to me that an enormous amount of water could carve out the Grand Canyon very quickly.
Check out mount saint helens cayons! It’s 1/40 the size of the grand canyon yet it was formed in 9 HOURS. Incredible
LOL - yeah and pigs fly too. Grand Canyon formed over 1 millions years, and is still forming today. ZERO evidence of a catastrophic flood event in canyon, or on Earth either.
@@SJR_Media_Group Mocking and asserting your opinion is not the same thing as refuting someone's argument.
@@onehatmedia the content provider is a PhD geologist. He knows better yet gets paid to lie about real age of Earth. His thesis is opposite of what he says now.
Geologist Randall Carlson can help explain what caused the floods.
Hint: asteroids hit glaciers and instantly melted them.
What about a failed rift system?
How do i get this channel off my algorithm?
Genesis 1 is not the only Bible section which describes the creation of the world. We should take them all together for the fullest picture. I appreciate also Zechariah 12:1 - "The burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel. Thus declares Jehovah who stretches forth the heavens and lays the foundation of the earth and forms the spirit of man within him."
The heavens were created for the earth. The earth was created for man. And man was created with the spirit within him so that man may contact and touch God.
Any fossilized person found??
Going to the grand canyon with my family tomorrow very excited to show my kids and tell them how it was created.
Please don't lie to your kids
@Atheist Deprogramming but we have proof
@Atheist Deprogramming ok how old do you think the earth is
@Atheist Deprogramming so how do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated to 20 thousand years
@Atheist Deprogramming how about the fossil record in general we see change as we rise through the layers of the earth
*Ahead Flank, Cavitate!* Normally a nuclear submarine wants to turn the screw (propeller) slow enough that it doesn't cause any cavitation because it makes a lot of noise and could give away it's position. But if someone shoots a torpedo at you, you don't care, so that's the order given to get moving as fast as possible ignoring cavitation.
Cavitation explains the Grand Canyon.
That and an awful lot of water, @@ZhmiKnopa.
These guys are kooks, any person, especially anyone who considers him or herself a geologist, who believes that sedimentary sequences of this magnitude were deposited then cemented into rock in short time is beyond stupid, its totally lunacy, videos like this should be clearly labelled as fiction so impressionable youngsters don't get deluded into believing lies like this.
Nice run-on sentence you have there. Dont be a fascist. There is nothing wrong with having different theories.
@@stevebare8476 This is fiction, it's not a theory, and I didn't realise that anyone who thinks that it's wrong to present false information as fact is automatically a follower of an ultra nationalist authoritarian political philosophy.
I don't care what religious narrative anyone believes, but if you have to bend and twist the truth about reality to try force it to fit to your religion then there are some major problems with your beliefs.
@@ats-3693 So do you feel the same way about evolution? Science is about observation which is kinda hard to do if it takes millions of years. It takes just as much faith to believe in evolution as it does creationism. The earth, the galaxies, human life, didn't all just randomly come together. There was a designer. Chaos doesn't create order it just creates chaos. The heavens declare the glory of God, the proclaim the works of his hands. Psalm 19:1 I hope the Lord will open your eyes to the truth soon.
@@marygayquigley9672 No it doesn't take "faith" to understand that evolution is how life developed on our planet, there is an abundance of evidence for it. Given that there are massive sedimentary rock sequences world wide that are millions of years old and contain the fossilised remains of thousands of primitive creatures and the plants and ecosystems they lived in, and none of this is mentioned in the religious texts, or can even be made to fit into earths history according to religious texts without lying and bending the truth or totally denying scientific facts is proof the religious texts are not factual.
Think creatively! Think of a number of ways things are formed. OK - Here we go!. The Grand Canyon was formed in the days of Peleg. The Colorado Plateau was explosively uplifted after the Flood in the days of Peleg. This is why there were so many mass extinctions! The heat from this explosive uplift caused ongoing evaporation, rainfall, and ongoing flooding. These are the floodwaters that carved the Grand Canyon. As far as a lake for the floodwaters source, creationists should look at the Missoula strandlines. These are not strandlines but are aligned with and formed by the Belt Supergroup metasedimentary rock layers. What should you believe? Popular opinion or facts and evidence?
My six year old daughter dug out the Grand Canyon in three days using only a shovel and sand bucket! Wow! 🤣
The canyon formed when water receded very quickly.
When the plate was thrust up out of the ocean the massive amount of water displacement formed the landscape of the Grand Canyon.
"For *since the creation of the world* His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, *have been clearly seen,* being understood *through what has been made,* so that people are without excuse" [Romans 1 v20] *Truth is a stubborn thing*
@@YouToobeism // Mans bias has merely brought about his current state of willful ignorance: For that which is *known* about God *is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.* For having knowledge of God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but *they became futile in their speculations,* so that their *foolish heart was darkened.* Professing to be wise, *they became fools* [Romans 1 v19/21/22]. I truly feel sorry for you. [edit]: Seek the Lord while He may be found [Isaiah 55 v6].
@@YouToobeism // If feel sorry for you b/c you "tell" me what I feel and what my motives are [negative], and then argue from that position, instead of trying to understand that the truth of any issue is narrow, and stubborn. Try ignoring the truth e.g. the laws of math, physics, engineering, etc and see what happens; step off of a 3 story building while ignoring the "narrow truths" of gravity, and they WILL show you exactly how superior they are via your body language.
*ALL truth is a stubborn thing.* Good day.
You can walk down and see 1) erosional unconformities, 2) sand dune cross bedding, 3) preserved mudcracks.
How can a single “catastrophe” (let’s not hide it you think it was Noah’s flood) have several periods of erosion, and deposition, followed by climatic changes leading to deserts, to braided river systems that dried out seasonally to make mud cracks.
Your interpretation is wrong!
Dry Falls in Washington State
Your channel is called “Is Genesis History?” yet your intro is a pic of a sphere earth in outer space, and you reference being able to see the Grand Canyon from space.
You’re saying page one of Genesis is not history or true.
I thought that was larry David in the thumbnail
100,000 gods in a 100,000 years couldn't "create" the Grand Canyon!
How long did the sediment during the flood take to solidify into rock that we see today?
You will need to be more specific Keith, because there have been many floods (local floods) during the 4 billion year life of our planet.
Full disclosure, I am a Christian and I believe the Bible is completely true, even though I may not fully understand it. In faith, I have chosen to rely that it is the Supreme truth, and the inspired Word of God.
There are 2 things going on here....1. the flood event that formed the strata above the great unconformity. 2. the breach of a reservior that carved out grand canyon. Most here are commenting on the latter and it seems to have broader support among Bible believers and unbelievers alike.
But I have a question as to 1. the original flood event that formed the strata layers to begin with. If a great flood caused by massive tectonic movements was responsible for laying down thousands of feet of strata as the waters ebbed and flowed on a cataclysmic scale, how could Noah's Ark have survived the turbulence that undoubtedly created waves 1000's of feet tall and whirlpools and immense oceanic flows. Thank you!
15:16 "out of the tunnel was seen to be red" Can the beginning of the second half of Tribulation be via Apophis on the Pacific? It became blood as in "red". Revelations 8:8 “And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;”
Then the last half; Revelations 16:3 “And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.”
And 16:4....again.
Great to see science bringing the bible to life again.
Well, only the Creation/Law part of it, which is still far from the core of the Bibles message.
For the Savior and the related and crucial Gospel part we still need to rely on the "foolishness of God" aka the supernaturally revealed Gospel which transcends our understanding as the Bible says.
But, yes, we can of course help with stressing the circumstancial reliability of the Bible.
But still: one needs to preach God's foolishness (Corinthians) to the audience. No way around that task unless you merely want to produce smart natural law proponents.
But there won't be many in heaven unfortunately.
If it has not been a slow erosion by the river, not necessarily we have to think about the universal biblic flood.
There maybe other geological explanations.
Said by one who believes there's truth in Genesis' creation story
Not discounting your documentary, a second way is a collapse of glacial lake Missoula.
@tsimahei That is what geologist's say, and if the water volume they are suggesting was released, it could have done both. Alternative views was the point I tried to suggest.
My thinking has always been if that little Colorado River washed out the grand canyon then there should be grand canyons all over the earth where are all the canyons
Then why aren't there more grand canyons?
Because somehow the great flood was able to cut through some of the hardest rock on Earth but not some of that soft stuff other places.
His theory does not necessarily match that of the scientific community. Given that, at least Christian "Geologists" are now admitting that the different layers are older the deeper they go. This is progress. Who knows, in other 100 years they might admit that the earth is more than 5000 years old.
Steve Austin. I loved you in the 6 million dollar man.
Not to mention the six WWF championships.
He should've labeled that "box" that he mentioned we need to think outside of, "uniformitarianism." Because it almost sounded like he wants people to think outside the box of physics, which is what he explained very well.
Yes, the Grand Canyon is a beautiful and unique place on planet earth. I have visited there several times. But the claims in this video of it being formed as a result of the great flood in Genesis is supported by not one shred of geologic evidence. Science is based on facts, not faith. And yes, I am a geologist.
Because you have been raised and educated your entire life with a preset narrative. It would be most difficult for a man of your education to attempt to examine it w out your preconceptions. I would welcome your rebuttal to his assertions.
@@bruceboyer8187 In short, my response is backed by the facts of the geologic record that is supported by a list of studies too numerous to list that include the fossil record itself, pollen dating and, radiometric dating, to name just a few. I entered the study of geology with no preset narrative or preconceptions but just followed the facts through my education and experience where they led me. Nothing was based on faith. To propose a sincere fact-based rebuttal to mere assertions is a waste of time. Thanks for your reply.
How many days did Dry Falls pour through central Washington? , and was it a simultaneous event?
I once did the calculation for how much water it would take to flood the earth to the top of mount Ararat. If I remember correctly it was something like 5 billion cubic miles of water. Where did it come from and where did it go?
So many questions, like how did Koalas that only eat certain tree leaves make it from Turkey to Australia across a planet denuded of all vegetation?
How was it Noah was the only person with a boat? They didn’t have fishermen in those days?
Creation week 😂😂😂😂 ....wait.........you're serious?
I have watched several of your videos now. Great work in proving a great "flood". Great information presented here, it is unfortunate though that you do not realize what you are actually proving. It wasn't a "flood" persay. It was the oceans themselves sweeping across the continents due to geomagnetic reversal. Well done.👍
Ian Strouse "the oceans themselves sweeping across the continents due to geomagnetic reversal". Wow! There's a claim. I suppose you could point us to some evidence for it? And, no, your fevered imagination doesn't count as evidence.
FYI There have been 183 such magnetic reversals over the last 83 million years (on average once every ~450,000 years). The latest occurred 780,000 years ago, with widely varying estimates of how quickly it happened. A reasonable estimate of the time that a reversal takes is on average around 7000 years for the four most recent reversals, and not a few days. There are no global flood deposits associated with any of them.
Sources: Johnson, Scott K. (11 August 2019). "The last magnetic pole flip saw 22,000 years of weirdness - When the Earth's magnetic poles trade places, they take a while to get sorted". Ars Technica. Retrieved 11 August 2019.
Clement, Bradford M. (2004). "Dependence of the duration of geomagnetic polarity reversals on site latitude". Nature. 428 (6983): 637-640. Bibcode:2004Natur.428..637C. doi:10.1038/nature02459. ISSN 0028-0836. PMID 15071591. S2CID 4356044
Over to you?
@@alanthompson8515 you are 100% correct. I couldn't possibly be right, as that would go against mainstream. God is the obvious and most logical answer.
@@ianstrouse8285 Yup. God isn't really into getting his stuff published in reputable peer reviewed journals is he?
BTW "Obvious" and "logical"? Think about it.
@@alanthompson8515 The video is clearly about God being the sole cause of the flood.
For proof on what I believe is being shown in this video I would suggest stepping away from mainstream academia. I would suggest the Adam and Eve story that was inexplicably classified by the CIA, and then later declassified but reduced by about 80% from the original work.
I would also suggest looking into the work of Douglas B. Vogt and the Diehold Foundation. If you look into either of these I express caution against cognitive dissonance.😏
@@ianstrouse8285 Pardon? The video is about Grand Canyon.
WhyTF should anyone "step way" from a method that works in favour of unfalsifiable speculation without evidence.
The grand canyon was not formed due to flood, but melted glaciers.
There's a need for the human psyche to believe that immense geological events have to have happened over the course of thousands or millions of years.
It has become too hard for us to collectively reconcile that catastrophic events, entirely out of our control, can occur at any time.
It is only because earth has remained free of such an event for the past few thousand years that civilisation has been allowed to 'flourish'.
But, that means we're probably due a global cataclysm sooner, rather than later.
It was NOT water that carved the Grand Canyon, but a tremendous lightning bolt that vaporized the earth. An interstellar thunderbolt from Venus to Earth during their near collision and resultant electrostatic discharge. You can see the classic dendrite shape of the Grand Canyon from space. It's also the time of oil deposition by the then recently formed comet Venus on planet Earth.
@Northstar Borealis Nope. The dendrite shape is a dead giveaway that it was electricity and not water. Water would not carve a surface that way. Just go to google maps and look at the Grand Canyon in Satellite View. It was electric plasma discharge between planets that vaporized that surface. Also, if it was water, where was all that carved soil deposited? That soil can't just disappear. So where did it go?
@Northstar Borealis not much critical thinking I'm afraid. Hes reciting ideas from the electric universe hypothesis, where they believe that all physical interactions are different manifestations of electromagnetism, including gravity. They cite superficial similarities in asthetics of erosion an electric arcs to support that things like canyons, craters, and mountain peaks were the literal result of lightening. One of the problems is that the lack of melded peices of rock that would be both embedded in the canyon walls, and strewn about the surrounding landscape.
nunya bisnass The charred surfaces crumble/flake off/erode to dust very quickly. I saw a program where Egyptian granite statues were struck by lightning and the granite would just flake of when touched. Given that we’re talking about several thousand years of weather erosion, it’s not unreasonable that we won’t see those charred surfaces anymore.
@@mika2oo1 it kinda is given the sheer volume of material, plus theres the fused fulgerites and other glassy material to consider. This is an easily testable prediction of the electric universe model that shouldn't be waved away. Evidence is sought after, not explained away.
[16:55]: *"why do people still teach that; why is it still in the science?"* Simply b/c: *1.* validating a Biblical account is to acknowledge the *fact* that Gods word is *truth* which
*2.* leads to acknowledging the *fact* that God is the "intelligent designer" of Ps 19 v1; Rom 1 v20 which *3.* leads to acknowledging the *fact* that God, Jesus Christ is mankinds ultimate Creator/Judge: John 1 v1; 2 Cor 5 v10 *4.* Sadly only one man [Aldous Huxley], was honest enough to state the obvious; the truth of God *is inconvenient* to sinful men. Huxley *openly admitted* that his rejection of religion was due to the *fact* that he *didn't want his sexual freedom hindered!* [Jackson 1974, 3].
I so love these videos! It is proof that God created the earth and not that long ago!
The Colorado River cut the Grand Canyon over millions of years as the area was gradually uplifted by tectonic motion driven by convection forces in the mantle of the Earth. The canyon was widened over millions of years by water getting in the cracks of the rocks and freezing, breaking the rocks and causing landslides that were washed downriver.
mauiroy - The Canyon was formed by a massive seismic event and the Global Flood roughly 4400 years ago. The delta into the Sea of Cortes is proof that it wasn't erosion over eons of time, because it is not reflective of what would have been one of the largest earth-moving events in the history of the planet.
Where are all of the red sandstone particles that MUST be there all along the river and the delta if erosion produced the canyon. But those particles are almost nonexistent other than tiny amounts from current river flow.
HAHAHAHAHA Proof please. When in doubt add the magical "millions and billions". HAHAHAHA. HAHAHA
haha the same old millions of years old 😂😂😂 lol
Please site the geologic evidence that supports your claim of a massive seismic event 4400 years ago in the Grand Canyon area.. No such geologic evidence exists to support your claim. @@freemind..