I’m inclined to agree with the theory that the only reason Shinobu was ranked 8th was because she had to balance her school life with less time to climb the ranks.
Jasper was only rank 1 in DS because he was rich. Dude was definitely below Alice and Margaret in lethality. Probably even Nathan. Money seems to be way too important to the UAA, not too much of a stretch to believe it can all too easily influence rank. Harnet being a semi-successful actor on the side must have given him enough cash to buy his way into rank 7.
Its really all a matter of timing. Anyone can climb the ranks at any point. We just dont know when and who is gonna fight. Had travis not showed up shinobu may have gone ahead and took out destroyman. Clearly she could considering she beat 2 at once later. The same principle goes into how 25 rando cheerleaders are higher than Nathan and Helter skelter. Its all about who fights who. If some 6 year old meets Mayweather at a boxing tourneys that doesn't mean that the 6 year old is that good. Just means all the 4 year olds were in the 6 year olds way while more capable people never faced them.
1 HIT 2 HIT *Steps back and dodges your entire combo* such a sick fight. a bit janky but it's so cool how she dances around you and stuff and you have to completely change up how you fight. You can't just combo her out like most enemies after finding a opening.
This is my favourite boss battle (and one of the hardest surprisingly for a #8) and my favourite theme too. The others have great themes too but they quicly become repetitive. This one has a great evolution at 2:20
She is honestly the hardest fight in the game behind Henry on bitter mode (the hardest in the series is Jasper from NMH 2 but that's due to bullshit stun lock and teleporting)
Her multi-hit attack isn't an instant kill, but you have to have every health upgrade obtainable at this point, AND you have to have full health to survive it.
plus her jumping mechanics in nmh2 were so bad! plus it doesnt help that u had to use them in both of her bosses! i love shinobu and ffighting her in nmh1 but fuck playing as her!
I felt that she was the hardest boss, she killed me like 5-6 times in normal and got me stuck like an hour on her battle, then everything smooth and on the first try until Bad Girl...
@yusurre Gouichi Suda is infamous for having mixed characters. So it's possible she's part Japanese. Her father was a famous swordsman who dabbled in the arts, so it makes sense that she studies the art of Bushido.
Most of my first fight with her: Ow, ow, ow, ow, OW YOU FUCK The rest: STOP TAUNTING ME!!! Seriously, how I beat her in only two tries I'll never know.
Well, there's Fortune from MGS2. Arguably one of the most hardass women, let alone black women in video games. She's set up to believe she has powers, and is later revealed to be just average- and she still denies the hand she's dealt and shows she's got skill and determination. She's always been one of my favorites.
Aaaanyway, as for fighting her. A dark room, with run down structure, places to hide, as well as her walking slowly until you got up to her was great. The fight didn't get me pumping as well as Dr. Peace and Death Metal, until about half way in. I had her half-way down, then realized I had one hit left of HP. That's when I realized this game isn't "the fancier, the better". She was fighting with old-world weaponry and non-exagerated skill (other than Sonic Sword), but managed to kick my ass hard
I can't believe I never checked this song out! I've only watched LPs of this game so I couldn't get a good listen at this music, but now I fucking dig it!
Probably because she knew when and where the battle was going to be but didn't want to skip class so as to maintain the illusion, nor would she want to be unarmed for the battle. I bet she would have killed her classmates at the end of the day if Travis didn't show up. Wonder if she told them. Still way prefer her to Silva
One of my regrets is seeing an amazing Shinobu cosplayer at DragonCon but never speaking to her or getting a picture. The one and only time I saw it irl 😭
I agree. I died 2 times against Shinobu but against Destroyman it only took one try. I admit, I ALMOST died but...if it took me only one try against him then Shinobu should have been after Destroyman.
Skin is just a package for a beautiful soul that lies beneath and that is very similar to yours, no matter what skin colour you have. I know poeple who are shocked when they see a black VG/comic/manga character, arguing said character must be indian or just dark tanned. The reason are of generations of cliches they have accumulated concerning black skin. And that's dumb. People should get over skin colour, i hope it happens while I'm still alive to witness.
Imagine the possibilities if Travis spared another assassin in the rankings. Maybe not Shinobu, but somehow Holly Summers, or Dr. Peace for whatever reason. What if another assassin fought alongside with Travis :v
@@ShimmerScarlet i got her Card She was 18 in NMH1 She's around 30 years old in NMH3 Do simple maths Btw, from what i read Travis returns ten years after NMH2, meaning Travis is around 40 now. Kinda intresting, he might expierence midlifecrisis in NMH4 as he morphs into something NMH1 Travis would call "old Man".
Goichi Suda is very fond of American culture. Thus why there is lack of Racism in his games. In fact, he addresses the Racism issue in his game Killer 7.
@@roachdoggjr1454 and it fails miserably at that. Only have to look at the treatment of black people, native Americans, hispanics, Asians, or those of middle eastern descent.
@@fusiontoa18 my father is half-black and half-native, half of my family and extended family are minorities, and they live perfectly fine lives. American culture is not racist, and my family is proof of it. You know what the real problem in america is? Not racism, but victimhood. White saviours and some minority groups always have this mentality that all minorities are victims of racism no matter what, and they refuse to look in on the problems of their own communities, instead blaming in on other americans.
@@fusiontoa18 my fathers side of the family are half native, and half black, and they live fine lives, american culture is not racist, it is just full of people with victim complexes and white saviours who think they know best for minority groups who dont even know what they want themselves.
I didn't even know there was a dispute that she was black, honestly i didn't see that as an issue, like at all, the only thing that bothered me is that she can shoot fkin lazers out of her sword actually thought she was pretty hot.
This fight took me like 10 tries on my first play through cause I was trying to mash buttons to win and I learned that I couldn’t do that It took me less than a minute on bitter mode due to me having the infinite battery upgrade
I don't really think race matters. The fact that the game was made in japan (a very racist country), yet little racism came from this girl was magnificent. The fact that americans (who should have been over racism YEARS ago) have to dislike the fact she is black is upsetting.
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I’m inclined to agree with the theory that the only reason Shinobu was ranked 8th was because she had to balance her school life with less time to climb the ranks.
Imagine being sliced in half by someone having to worry about the physic essay they have the following day.
Either that or she's fairly new on the scene, she can't have been an assassin for all that long if she's still in high school
Shinobu: What's that in your hand, a toy?
Me: Where is your hand?
Which one
That answer.... just had Travis energy on it.
wow, that mean
Don't do this
still kicked your butt XD
Thought: she was only 8th because she was so anxious about hiding her profession that she never had time to climb the ranks.
Given how much she kicks New Destroyman's ass in the second game, I'd say that's well supported
But at the same time isn't it suggested she kills her whole class?
@@liquidsandwich1052 That was only because they overheard Travis challenge her to a fight.
I’d say that’s true given how skilled she is overall.
In a sense, she's clearly skilled, but not necessarily to get extremely far. She was really just more preoccupied with finding her father's murderer.
Goes to great lengths to hide her profession as an assassin.
Carries a katana to school as if that would never raise any suspicions.
Miss Dark To be fair, I'd just assume she was weeaboo trash.
Azelliz Remtora well it is suda 51 so its best not to question lol
+Miss Dark Maybe people think its a prob for theater class?
Weaboos are tho ^
This is a world where lightsabres are common enough not to raise any eyebrows, but instead just get one labeled "otaku".
When you’re about to kill her, but she does that one hit kill move.
This happened to me two weeks ago. And I kept dying to that move due to how quick she can be sometimes.
I just hid behind a wall and did the low charged attack. It's cheese but whatever, so is a one hit insta kill.
You can actually survive it, but it takes a ton of health.
What always bothered me about Shinobu was that she was a lower rank than Destroyman....
...how... I don't even...
She specifically stated she wanted to lay low and remain as undetected as possible.
Her goal was always Travis, not rank.
Jasper was only rank 1 in DS because he was rich. Dude was definitely below Alice and Margaret in lethality. Probably even Nathan.
Money seems to be way too important to the UAA, not too much of a stretch to believe it can all too easily influence rank. Harnet being a semi-successful actor on the side must have given him enough cash to buy his way into rank 7.
@@ljoufhk probably all of the assassins could have beaten jasper batt
@@mikeockhurts904 most assassin's would get dumpstered by Jasper though. Especially his [Titanium Batt] form
Its really all a matter of timing. Anyone can climb the ranks at any point. We just dont know when and who is gonna fight. Had travis not showed up shinobu may have gone ahead and took out destroyman. Clearly she could considering she beat 2 at once later. The same principle goes into how 25 rando cheerleaders are higher than Nathan and Helter skelter. Its all about who fights who. If some 6 year old meets Mayweather at a boxing tourneys that doesn't mean that the 6 year old is that good. Just means all the 4 year olds were in the 6 year olds way while more capable people never faced them.
Suda 51 is a terribly under appreciated fellow. Terribly under appreciated.
Shinobu Jacobs is a deadly butterfly
Any appreciation I had for him died when he released NMH3. What a trash game.
@@RichterTheRatthey really went for a quick cashgrab
@@RichterTheRat its not even a bad game
1 HIT
2 HIT
*Steps back and dodges your entire combo*
such a sick fight. a bit janky but it's so cool how she dances around you and stuff and you have to completely change up how you fight. You can't just combo her out like most enemies after finding a opening.
0:48 Mayonnaise.
Mayonnaise, *snort*
No Patrick, mayonnaise isn't an instrument
She was so hard to fight that the later battles became way too easy. She was the only character to instakill me.
This is my favourite boss battle (and one of the hardest surprisingly for a #8) and my favourite theme too. The others have great themes too but they quicly become repetitive. This one has a great evolution at 2:20
That breakdown is always a great start to my day.
She's the "afro samurai" of nmh
Not really a samurai but she does have an Afro
She is honestly the hardest fight in the game behind Henry on bitter mode (the hardest in the series is Jasper from NMH 2 but that's due to bullshit stun lock and teleporting)
Jasper on hard mode can go to HELL!!!!!!
And that freaking window.
I struggle against that punk for far to long whenever I replay 2 >:l
Her multi-hit attack isn't an instant kill, but you have to have every health upgrade obtainable at this point, AND you have to have full health to survive it.
She no boo....
She is my boo...
@@tarunjohal9215 is she really your boo...
You're right, she didn't boo once.
she is my top fav character in the game. It was fun playing her
+Swagtrap Te Jode.
you do in NMH2
plus her jumping mechanics in nmh2 were so bad! plus it doesnt help that u had to use them in both of her bosses! i love shinobu and ffighting her in nmh1 but fuck playing as her!
@@ImDeadInside69 Its been 5 years damn
@@ImDeadInside69 Yea. you're 5 years late. I even forgot I made such comment
@@ImDeadInside69 After playing NMH2, Margaret Moonlight became my favorite because of her cool weapon and costume
There's an awesome 8-bit version of this in Travis Strikes Again!
All I hear constantly “SONIC SWORD!!”
Not gonna lie. Her and Bad Girl were the hardest bosses for me so I find it funny that they're back for the 3rd.
Hey past me. Destroyman and Kimmy are in it too.
Honestly Kimmy's not that bad as long as you keep your distance from her after hitting her a couple times then immediately retreat to charge up.
Best character in the whole game deserves the best theme love shinobu
Imagine if she was the next smash character instead of if travis got in
She's played by Sheik in Travis' Spirit battle.
I felt that she was the hardest boss, she killed me like 5-6 times in normal and got me stuck like an hour on her battle, then everything smooth and on the first try until Bad Girl...
Same with me except henry is fucking evil
She goes to great lengths to hide her profession. Yet she carries a katana around in class lol.
Have you seen how common weapons are in that world? the town is called Santa Destroya!
Thats just like carrying pepper spray in that world
This song mocked me every time I fought her.....
i absolutely love this fight, gets my blood pumping and i get so into it. and this is just good music.
@yusurre Gouichi Suda is infamous for having mixed characters. So it's possible she's part Japanese. Her father was a famous swordsman who dabbled in the arts, so it makes sense that she studies the art of Bushido.
Most of my first fight with her: Ow, ow, ow, ow, OW YOU FUCK
The rest: STOP TAUNTING ME!!!
Seriously, how I beat her in only two tries I'll never know.
Shinobu and I have spent countless hours together.. on bitter mode.. because she killed me so many many times
Well, there's Fortune from MGS2. Arguably one of the most hardass women, let alone black women in video games. She's set up to believe she has powers, and is later revealed to be just average- and she still denies the hand she's dealt and shows she's got skill and determination. She's always been one of my favorites.
Aaaanyway, as for fighting her.
A dark room, with run down structure, places to hide, as well as her walking slowly until you got up to her was great. The fight didn't get me pumping as well as Dr. Peace and Death Metal, until about half way in. I had her half-way down, then realized I had one hit left of HP.
That's when I realized this game isn't "the fancier, the better". She was fighting with old-world weaponry and non-exagerated skill (other than Sonic Sword), but managed to kick my ass hard
Best girl
This is the fight where you first get your ass kicked, usually.
Did anyone notice how curved the sword is?
AYNAL GREESE
*snorts coke
*shuffles cards
Repeat
am i the only one who likes shinobu? i hope not.
No, shes actually my favorite character in the entire series.
Same here ;D ;D ;D
I like her
Chozin Yi i like her, but mah favorite stays Destroyman and with New Destroyman. More Destroymans :D
Shinobu is one of the best! :)
I can't believe I never checked this song out! I've only watched LPs of this game so I couldn't get a good listen at this music, but now I fucking dig it!
amazing game and amazing soundtrack,
Me: Yes! It is a toy! OH LOOK! You just got your ass kicked by a TOY! LOL!
For me she was the second toughest boss in the game right behind Jeane, and yet she was very low in the rankings. WTF?
when i hear this i feel like my purpose is clear
Mayonnaise?
Wasabi
Shinobu was the hardest boss in the game, at least on Bitter.
I'm assuming it's a perspective thing (similar to how her fight hand appears to be larger than the other due to it being closer to the viewer)
all I can hear is PINOYS
Probably because she knew when and where the battle was going to be but didn't want to skip class so as to maintain the illusion, nor would she want to be unarmed for the battle. I bet she would have killed her classmates at the end of the day if Travis didn't show up. Wonder if she told them.
Still way prefer her to Silva
Okay, as hard as you guys say shinobu is, I beat her on the first try.
Same, granted I had 1% of my HP left by the time I beat her...lmao
I beat her 2nd try only because she got me with the instant kill move that I wasn’t paying attention to
The amount of Rule 34 of her is depressingly low
then take action. start drawing, bub! I know you can change the world!
be the change you want to see!
The fact that NMH is a cult series at best didn't strike me until I found out how little fan art there was of Shinobu. :(
Sometimes sounds like she says "Sundae" in some of her attacks
Wait... she doesn't?
Underrated comment.
N O I C E
badass.
a new character for me to cosplay as! a black female assassin,badass theme music, and she's my favorite number? I'M NOW IN LOVE
Hell yeah, dude! I love her design so much too. It’s simple but it works really well
One of my regrets is seeing an amazing Shinobu cosplayer at DragonCon but never speaking to her or getting a picture. The one and only time I saw it irl 😭
Did you do it?
I agree. I died 2 times against Shinobu but against Destroyman it only took one try. I admit, I ALMOST died but...if it took me only one try against him then Shinobu should have been after Destroyman.
With how crazy difficult her fight is how is she only 8th? Like her and holly summers should of been in top 3.
the words are shinobi what shinobu's name comes from and is a reference to her being a 'samurai'
That's more like a "WTF?!" than an "why?".
your avatar perfectly sums up the feeling of your comment lol
Skin is just a package for a beautiful soul that lies beneath and that is very similar to yours, no matter what skin colour you have. I know poeple who are shocked when they see a black VG/comic/manga character, arguing said character must be indian or just dark tanned. The reason are of generations of cliches they have accumulated concerning black skin. And that's dumb. People should get over skin colour, i hope it happens while I'm still alive to witness.
*_"THE FITNESS GRAM PACER TEST-"_*
Imagine the possibilities if Travis spared another assassin in the rankings. Maybe not Shinobu, but somehow Holly Summers, or Dr. Peace for whatever reason. What if another assassin fought alongside with Travis :v
He tried to spare one of the assassins in nmh 2 but Silvia gunned him down he was one of the better bosses in that game too
He tried to not kill Holly. Didn't end well. And he spared Ryuji in NMH2, only for him to be gunned down.
Duck Sylvia I will always ship Travis and shinobu cause shinobu=best girl
In first game, i'd say FBI, OPEN UP
but know she is almost adult, maybe in the upcoming Game finally over 18
@@seretith3513 she is well over 18 now. There was 7 years between NMH2 and Travis Strikes Again. It's been 10 years since the first game
@@ShimmerScarlet i got her Card
She was 18 in NMH1
She's around 30 years old in NMH3
Do simple maths
Btw, from what i read Travis returns ten years after NMH2, meaning Travis is around 40 now. Kinda intresting, he might expierence midlifecrisis in NMH4 as he morphs into something NMH1 Travis would call "old Man".
Goichi Suda is very fond of American culture. Thus why there is lack of Racism in his games. In fact, he addresses the Racism issue in his game Killer 7.
Ironic considering how racist american culture is. What game features racism anyway? Lel
@@fusiontoa18how is american cultire racist? The whole point of american culture is that it is one big melting pot of a bunch of cultures.
@@roachdoggjr1454 and it fails miserably at that. Only have to look at the treatment of black people, native Americans, hispanics, Asians, or those of middle eastern descent.
@@fusiontoa18 my father is half-black and half-native, half of my family and extended family are minorities, and they live perfectly fine lives. American culture is not racist, and my family is proof of it.
You know what the real problem in america is? Not racism, but victimhood. White saviours and some minority groups always have this mentality that all minorities are victims of racism no matter what, and they refuse to look in on the problems of their own communities, instead blaming in on other americans.
@@fusiontoa18 my fathers side of the family are half native, and half black, and they live fine lives, american culture is not racist, it is just full of people with victim complexes and white saviours who think they know best for minority groups who dont even know what they want themselves.
I can't believe there are so many comments here about race. This is one of my favourite songs (and game) ever and race never popped into my mind.
*NN O I C E*
n o i s e
I witnessed my best friend beat shinobu in under 5 minutes! What's the world record for the fastest time?
This theme gives off that samurai champloo vibe tbh but shiobu is cool tho
I Personally think this one is better than either Mach 13 Elephant Explosion or Pleather for Breakfast
It's 3am and im still hearing mayonnaise
This goes damn hard
sure she was annoying but her theme is badass,and you cant deny that
yay masafumi takada!!!
The hardest assassin in the game, she can slice and dice you to oblivion if you are not careful.
Well her father was a black martial artist so she could be part Asian also
I didn't even know there was a dispute that she was black, honestly i didn't see that as an issue, like at all, the only thing that bothered me is that she can shoot fkin lazers out of her sword
actually thought she was pretty hot.
**emulator save-scumming intensifies**
This fight took me like 10 tries on my first play through cause I was trying to mash buttons to win and I learned that I couldn’t do that
It took me less than a minute on bitter mode due to me having the infinite battery upgrade
Did you know that this theme has Danny Phantom's Theme at 2:17?
Idk, but that means she is somewhat related to him? xD
Ah yes, trance rock
@yusurre I know its WAY late to tell you this but the game takes place in California not Japan.
NOICE.
female bosses are the most difficult
Because she's inspired in afro-Samurai.
J.D. Simahan def
I don't really think race matters. The fact that the game was made in japan (a very racist country), yet little racism came from this girl was magnificent. The fact that americans (who should have been over racism YEARS ago) have to dislike the fact she is black is upsetting.
SIR YOU HAVE JUST SHARPENED MY HOPE.Thought i was the only person who liked black girls
@Chozin Yin I also like Shinobu,well,I LOVE Shinobu xd
Is she really think that she about to take on the alien invasion in NMH3?
At 2:18 It kind of sounds like an instrumental version of that song. Something to do with discovery channel.
Win, always.
@SethSandwhisper
I see your "Pleather for Breastfast", and raise you "We are Finally Cowboys"
Why does it keep saying "noise"?
i tore the muscle in my left hand trying to beat this chick, hard mode is not forgiving
Wonder if there’s a story of why her hair covers her left eye
Just fought her from the steam port of NMH. Fuck that one hit kill move she keeps spamming when she's near death.
She's the best NMH chaacter, why? Katana, thats why
I died 30 times
thats what she said
OMG Kratos Aurion plays No More Heroes O.O
@marthedge haha the problem is that when i first fight speed buster i just ran forward like an idiot without knowing wat to do...
so i died LOL
Agreed
EXCATLY what i was thinking.
It's been 8 years do you even remember making this comment.
@@charliec7853 its been 2 years since you replied, and no i dont :) Do you remember making this comment?