I often think, me and so many other people are such huge fans of the ultimate series is because it had the perfect storm of Brian’s borderline clever writing at times and mark’s beautiful designs… I don’t think a Spider-Man series or comic series in general will ever have such beautiful artwork that encapsulates a character, I wish mark could forever do the art for Spider-Man, he made me a die hard supporter
First there was the Clone Genesis. Then there was the Clone Saga. Then there was the Clone Conspiracy. Then there was the Real Clone Saga. Finally, ladies and gentlemen and all individuals, we've made it. The good one.
@@benparrish672 they made Barry the main Flash for the better part of things since 2011, Wally West literally was vanished from existence until Rebirth. The hell you on about?
This is why Peter in 616 kept his secret from May until he was an adult. If Aunt May in the early 2000s could kick Peter out, then she definitely could in the 1960s.
It’s a shame they never brought back Kaine as a recurring villain for Ultimate Spider-Man. Or hell, make a spin off mini series on Jessica with Kaine as the villain, that way you can get your Ben Reilly/Kaine dynamic there in the Ultimate Universe. 41:44 Ultimate MJ = Mephisto???
IIRC, the Ultimate office snapped up Jessica quick. Like, she has one more arc with Bendis I think and then she got taken away cause she was so popular. She got put on Ultimates until Hickman wanted to do his own team and thus had her get captured by the new SHIELD, after that Bendis got her back for a few Miles issues so she could help transfer the legacy of Peter(gave him the new suit iirc)only for her to be pulled from that for the new teen Ultimates where she stayed until Secret Wars killed the universe. This is from after the fact but Bendis has said that when the transfer of Miles happened to 616 he wanted to bring Jess over and do a trans story with her(the teen Ultimates book teased her having a crush on Kitty btw) since he wasn’t allowed to do much of anything with her in Ultimate but editorial said no even to changing her name(since there already was og Jessica and Jessica Jones). So when it came time for Bendis to leave Marvel he made sure to show in the last page of the returned Ultimateverse in Spider-Men 2 that Jess was still active and teaming up with Peter etc(and back in her Spider-Woman costume instead of the Black Widow one Ultimates put her in)since he knew if he didn’t, no one at Marvel would bring her back later if more Ultimateverse or Spiderverse stories happened(and its been 4 years and he was right).
@@YouCalledForTheDoc I really don’t think a trans story would work well from that kind of angle. It seems a little too “unrealistic” in terms of accurately portraying what a trans person feels like
@@DigitalRag3X I think it's more like being a trans-woman, since she has these memories of being a "boy", but seems perfectly at home in this female form she was given.
Ultimate Jessica was really interesting. And then it proceeded to go worse from that point on... I can't say the blame is on the writers, the quality of her role decreased about as consistently as that of the Ultimate Universe itself so... If anything, she was one of the few fun things about the post Ultimatum Ultimate Universe AKA The Ultimate Comics line
I recently learned of the trans allegory perspective of her character and was really fascinated by it. Really cool to view her character through that lens while reading through the Ultimate Universe.
Apparently Bendis actually wanted her to be sent to Earth-616 post-Secret Wars as along with Miles' family and friends, even offered to change her name to avoid confusion with the 616!Jess Drew and Jessica Jones, and wanted to specifically expand on the trans-coding he'd already planted for her character in the short lived Young Ultimates series, but Marvel said no to all of it, and sadly Ult!Jess has had no significant appearances even since the og Ultimate universe was restored.
Getting to this arc on my first read of Ultimate Spider-Man was one of the most satisfying things. Like this arc concludes SO many of the the hanging threads they set up throughout the run. The relationship with Nick Fury, MJ and Peter getting back together, Aunt May finally learning Peters identity, the amazing reveal with Doc Ock, his awesome new powers, it also kinda caps the end to the whole OZ formula thing. It’s really good and though I think the next arc with kingpin isn’t as strong as this one it’s also a really good conclusion to all the Kingpin stuff that happens in Ultimate Spider-Man. Good stuff!!
I personally think the demogoblin thing was actually quite interesting, and it bothered me a bit to see that it wasn't followed up on down the line. Like, it's the same issue with Jessica Drew aswell. Other than that, i kinda agree...
but its a spider-woman costume and not a spider-amn costume so that wouldnt really work its like having spider-gwnes costume..both peter and mmiles is male so it akes snese they wouldnt have any of the female outfits
I get what you mean but I just hope maybe through the story they introduce a spider-woman so we can get a game with her the same like miles! There’s enough story and costume content for her own games.
@@pbjoey703 to be fair i can see a spider-gwen game beging made because of how populer she is getting thanks to spider-verse the movie that also mad miles populer in th main stream and made way to the game so maybe the same could be done for her..altho i wodner if insomica would do the samen that they did with miles by having spider-gwen be from the same reality like miles as peter..bescause oringallsy miiles peter dies in his universe and then meets up with 616 peter like in the moive butthen later gets stuck on the 1616 side ..it would helpd streem line the characters and the spider people by having them all in the same reality and make it more conveinet then havign them be vertaint earth verions..gwen doesnt seem to exsit yet in this unvierse since she hasnt been mentioned or referenced so maybe
We’ve been here so long with ultimate Spider-Man and I’ve enjoyed every episode. I really hope they don’t skip any arcs. Like that daredevil arc is very cool
Thank you guys for making such an enjoyable show, one that I’ve enjoyed for years now (almost since the beginning of the shows conception). This show was with me near the beginning of middle school, and it’s with me now, right after my first semester of college. I think I say this for everyone when I say there’s nothing quite like this show. Thank you for the years of entertainment
1:09:57 This improv bit about Nick Fury is an all-time great Back Issues moment. When they get into a riff (Colossus after Secret Wars, Rhino's ability to use the bathroom, etc.) it can't be topped
Holy hell. Sal made my mind practically come the closest it ever has to time traveling with that "Trip Like I Do" joke/reference. Seriously underappreciated, even his impersonation was fairly spot on.
I'm sitting here listening to the episode while working and I just hear Ben quoting the exact Mitch Hedberg bit I used to introduce my girlfriend to his comic genius last week and I busted out laughing. Great stuff!
Honestly that new Miles clone saga they recently did was also pretty solid, but it definitely helped that it was only like 4 issues. Wouldn’t mind seeing that covered on here eventually since we have finally gotten the Ultimate Clone Saga.
Definitely some weird shit in here, but when I read this book for the first time a few years back I was absolutely riveted. I honestly love how Pete is out of the costume the majority of this arc, since both his worlds are clashing.
I actually really liked this story!! You guys are a lot of fun I love the storytelling. New sub here! Thank you mr. Sunday movies for bringing me here!
Looks like it’s time for Ultimate Crack Issues everybody! I once had a friend who cares little for the Ultimate universe. This was the trade that changed his mind. Anyways, thank you Comicpop for being great suppliers of such wonderful content!
Hadn’t revisited this one in a while. Great stuff, and I felt your storytelling was great this round Sal. Keep going! I hope you stay with this until Bendis left the book. Thats when I left. Fingers crossed, I’ll stick with ya!
Timing couldn't of been timed more perfectly, re-reading the whole Ultimate series for the first time in 10 years and just completed the Clone arc. Thanks.
I will not be satisfied until you've covered every comic book set in the ultimate universe... nah I'm just kidding, this was great though, I always look forward to the ultimate spider-man series but it's far from the only thing that I'm here for.
Seeing the new Hawkeye episode and waiting for Charlie Cox to appear in No Way Home, the next volume may be even more topical than this one. Loved the show, thanks guys
Jesus christ I love all things comic pop the only UA-cam I have watched consistently from the first time I watched a video. Great job guys love everything you do.
I feel like comparing this to the other clone saga/stories isn't a fair comparison. I watched the video and the story seemed so different I read it digitally. Gotta say, every complaint the original had, feels absent from this one. It wasn't gross, weird or felt like leaps in logic were taken to the extreme. I really enjoyed this one. And y'all made it Priceless. Thanks guys 😁
I am screaming internally with excitement as I watch this. I was kinda miffed they broke up Peter and kitty around here. It felt abrupt and I thought they could have talked that out. Especially given issue 200 and everyone's reminiscing. My heart really went out to kitty.
yay ultimate clone saga one of my all time favorite ultimate spider-man stories that has peter parker and mary jane finally reunite and be a couple again also this was probably my favorite clone saga story I've read back in the day, and introduced one of my ultimate marvel characters ultimate jessica drew ultimate spider-woman.
I needed this this week. Thank you guys so much for making finals bearable and alleviating the stress of the holidays (as well as the balance of work/school life). I owe you guys a big one!
44:00 funnily enough, they basically show you what that looks like in the Clone Conspiracy! remember that one guy that was just a brain, nervous system and eyes?
That synced "oh shit" edit qas prety sweet. It was small but really gotnthe feeling through esp when as a viewer your watching and are feeling same thing. Well done my my peeps.
I remember reading this when it was coming out and the Marvel website said that MJ turning into a sasquatch was supposed to be that universe's Demogoblin and the six armed Peter is Tarantula.
It's a Christmas miracle!! Funnily enough THIS particular story arc is where I started to read Ultimate Spider-Man all those years ago. Still one of my favorite stories in comics.
Yup. There’s an issue of something in the Ultimate Universe where Jess makes it clear she’s into girls. Especially redheads(MJ) and Jewish girls(Kitty)
@@Popcultureguy3000 she dated Johnny and then realized she didn’t really like men, but she tried to. If Jessica is bi then that means Peter is bi, but he’s never shown any attraction to Johnny
I know you guys have it as a pateron option i think but your guys content is so good you can literally just upload the audio as a podcast on spotify or something and itll be just as funny interesting and entertaining. Not saying the video doesn’t add anything just saying that how strong your personalities are
Just in time and glad to see the latest comic pop episode doing another video with ultimate Spider-Man again! Always a good time! I remember when the 100th issue came out around the same time as Spider-Man 3. 6th grade was a heck of a time as a SPIDEY fan. And now is just the same!
Awesome episode, guys! I'd love to watch one on Vol 18 with Daredevil, or Vol 21, showing Brock's return and loosely adapting the pre-existing game's plot (you don't see that every day!).
Personally, I'm not that big on the idea of making Jessica Drew a litteral clone of Peter. The cool thing about 616 Jessica is that she has nothing to do with Peter aside from having Spider in her superhero name (because Marvel needed to get copyright on the Spiderwoman name) and the basic "proportional Spider abilities" idea. She's not related to him in any way (didn't even know who he was until her 20th issue), she has a completely different backstory and even different powers and skills from Peter (trading the spider-sense, web shooters and science knowledge for Venom blasts, gliding powers, pheromones and Spy training). It all contributed in making Jessica feel way more like her own character who just happens to have a similar name rather than just a female derivative of a male hero. So it's kinda weird to make her ultimate counterpart not only a derivative of Peter, but a straight up clone of him. Makes her look a lot less unique. Granted, this is a different version of Jessica so it's not like they *ruined* her or anything. And it's not like it automatically makes ultimate Jess a bad character. It's just a concept I'm not a big fan of. But I know that Bendis didn't mean anything bad by it (considering he loves Spiderwoman enough to create Jessica Jones based on her and to give Miles her Venom Blast ability) and just wanted Jessica in the Ultimate universe by any means necessary. (Also, 1:10:04 is hilarious)
To be fair, I have only heard of this with this video but I think the Ock reveal is kinda dumb. I had a physical reaction of “that sucksssss” to the mutant magnetic manipulation thing. Ock being a tragic, human figure grafted to his own hubris makes him interesting, and rather sympathetic despite the master planner schtick. But to each their own. 616 Otto still is a thing 😅🤷🏻♀️
The thing is doc ock was never really tragic in the ultimate like he was always kinda of a douche bag and it wasn’t even his arrogance that was just him. So Personally I could accept them letting go of the arms .
*slams table* Identity theft is not a joke, Otto! Millions of families suffer every year!
*sits down across from spider man, dressed as spider man*
What kind of Clone Saga is best?
@@captainvimes6079 That's a ridiculous question-
I...declare.... RESPONSIBILITY!!
MICHAEL!!!!
Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
Brian Michael Bendis once said this is the storyline in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics he is most proud of, and felt it has Mark Bagley’s best artwork
I can agree, this is the best Ultimate Spider-Man story tied with Ultimate Venom
Ultimate Venom is my favorite as well
Oof, picking a favorite Ultimate Spider-Man arc is hard for me. I think right now if you asked I would go 1) Clone Saga 2) Venom 3) Death of a Goblin.
If this is Michael's best, than I really don't want to see his worst.
I often think, me and so many other people are such huge fans of the ultimate series is because it had the perfect storm of Brian’s borderline clever writing at times and mark’s beautiful designs… I don’t think a Spider-Man series or comic series in general will ever have such beautiful artwork that encapsulates a character, I wish mark could forever do the art for Spider-Man, he made me a die hard supporter
I lost my job this week and I can't thank y'all enough for this episode! Something great to listen to while applying everywhere!
So sorry to hear that Ryan! Keep at it dude!
@@comicpop Holy crap, thank you so much!
Best of luck to you on your search
Best of luck man, we've all been there in the past and there really is nothing worse or more disheartening.
I hope something better comes along and that it allows you to live comfortably and provide for your loved ones.
First there was the Clone Genesis.
Then there was the Clone Saga.
Then there was the Clone Conspiracy.
Then there was the Real Clone Saga.
Finally, ladies and gentlemen and all individuals, we've made it. The good one.
I didn’t think original and real clone sagas were that bad.
Miles got one too, for some damn reason
@@onifrancis1566 Like Sal said: It's a Spider-Man writer's form of hubris.
“Good” is a stretch
@@benparrish672 they made Barry the main Flash for the better part of things since 2011, Wally West literally was vanished from existence until Rebirth. The hell you on about?
Five years, one week, one day, and sixteen volumes later….IT IS FINALLY HERE!!!!! Thanks Comic Pop! Happy Holidays!
In the words of the great Stacker Pentacost: "Reset the clock!!"
It’s like when people talk to games workshop about squats.
This is why Peter in 616 kept his secret from May until he was an adult. If Aunt May in the early 2000s could kick Peter out, then she definitely could in the 1960s.
616 May wasn't as aggressive as 1610 May. She was just older and more fragile and Peter never wanted her to go into shock
It’s a shame they never brought back Kaine as a recurring villain for Ultimate Spider-Man. Or hell, make a spin off mini series on Jessica with Kaine as the villain, that way you can get your Ben Reilly/Kaine dynamic there in the Ultimate Universe.
41:44 Ultimate MJ = Mephisto???
IIRC, the Ultimate office snapped up Jessica quick. Like, she has one more arc with Bendis I think and then she got taken away cause she was so popular. She got put on Ultimates until Hickman wanted to do his own team and thus had her get captured by the new SHIELD, after that Bendis got her back for a few Miles issues so she could help transfer the legacy of Peter(gave him the new suit iirc)only for her to be pulled from that for the new teen Ultimates where she stayed until Secret Wars killed the universe. This is from after the fact but Bendis has said that when the transfer of Miles happened to 616 he wanted to bring Jess over and do a trans story with her(the teen Ultimates book teased her having a crush on Kitty btw) since he wasn’t allowed to do much of anything with her in Ultimate but editorial said no even to changing her name(since there already was og Jessica and Jessica Jones). So when it came time for Bendis to leave Marvel he made sure to show in the last page of the returned Ultimateverse in Spider-Men 2 that Jess was still active and teaming up with Peter etc(and back in her Spider-Woman costume instead of the Black Widow one Ultimates put her in)since he knew if he didn’t, no one at Marvel would bring her back later if more Ultimateverse or Spiderverse stories happened(and its been 4 years and he was right).
@@YouCalledForTheDoc I really don’t think a trans story would work well from that kind of angle. It seems a little too “unrealistic” in terms of accurately portraying what a trans person feels like
Demogoblin
@@superjlk_9538 a man trapped in a woman’s body??? that doesn’t scream trans? especially when she still loves redhead and Jewish girls 😭
@@DigitalRag3X I think it's more like being a trans-woman, since she has these memories of being a "boy", but seems perfectly at home in this female form she was given.
my jaw dropped lol perfect timing and this is the best version of the clone saga
FACTS
After knowing the story of 'Trouble', Aunt May's reaction to Richard wanting to come back around is much more understandable.
MCU: this new Spider-Man movie coming out is going to be the best Spider-Man content this year
Comic pop: Hold my Beer.. lol
@42:27 nice Spawn soundtrack pull 😆 Filter & The Crystal Method “Trip Like I Do”
Definitely a reference I didn't at all expect, but certainly a welcome one.
42:26 As someone who equally appreciated the soundtrack to Spawn, kudos there Sal lol.
Ultimate Jessica was really interesting. And then it proceeded to go worse from that point on... I can't say the blame is on the writers, the quality of her role decreased about as consistently as that of the Ultimate Universe itself so... If anything, she was one of the few fun things about the post Ultimatum Ultimate Universe AKA The Ultimate Comics line
I recently learned of the trans allegory perspective of her character and was really fascinated by it. Really cool to view her character through that lens while reading through the Ultimate Universe.
she's a character that deserves way way more
Apparently Bendis actually wanted her to be sent to Earth-616 post-Secret Wars as along with Miles' family and friends, even offered to change her name to avoid confusion with the 616!Jess Drew and Jessica Jones, and wanted to specifically expand on the trans-coding he'd already planted for her character in the short lived Young Ultimates series, but Marvel said no to all of it, and sadly Ult!Jess has had no significant appearances even since the og Ultimate universe was restored.
11:17
That is one of the best deliveries from Sal on Back Issues EVER.
Getting to this arc on my first read of Ultimate Spider-Man was one of the most satisfying things. Like this arc concludes SO many of the the hanging threads they set up throughout the run. The relationship with Nick Fury, MJ and Peter getting back together, Aunt May finally learning Peters identity, the amazing reveal with Doc Ock, his awesome new powers, it also kinda caps the end to the whole OZ formula thing. It’s really good and though I think the next arc with kingpin isn’t as strong as this one it’s also a really good conclusion to all the Kingpin stuff that happens in Ultimate Spider-Man. Good stuff!!
I personally think the demogoblin thing was actually quite interesting, and it bothered me a bit to see that it wasn't followed up on down the line. Like, it's the same issue with Jessica Drew aswell. Other than that, i kinda agree...
This spider-woman’s costume is easily one of my most favorite outfits, I hope one day they let us use it in a game like Spider-Man ps4
but its a spider-woman costume and not a spider-amn costume so that wouldnt really work its like having spider-gwnes costume..both peter and mmiles is male so it akes snese they wouldnt have any of the female outfits
I get what you mean but I just hope maybe through the story they introduce a spider-woman so we can get a game with her the same like miles! There’s enough story and costume content for her own games.
@@pbjoey703 to be fair i can see a spider-gwen game beging made because of how populer she is getting thanks to spider-verse the movie that also mad miles populer in th main stream and made way to the game so maybe the same could be done for her..altho i wodner if insomica would do the samen that they did with miles by having spider-gwen be from the same reality like miles as peter..bescause oringallsy miiles peter dies in his universe and then meets up with 616 peter like in the moive butthen later gets stuck on the 1616 side ..it would helpd streem line the characters and the spider people by having them all in the same reality and make it more conveinet then havign them be vertaint earth verions..gwen doesnt seem to exsit yet in this unvierse since she hasnt been mentioned or referenced so maybe
@@pbjoey703 or maybe insomica could make a spider-verse game kind of like gotham kngihts but with the spider-verse
We’ve been here so long with ultimate Spider-Man and I’ve enjoyed every episode. I really hope they don’t skip any arcs. Like that daredevil arc is very cool
We can't stop here! Let's ride the Ultimate Spider-Man train all the way to the end!
Thank you guys for making such an enjoyable show, one that I’ve enjoyed for years now (almost since the beginning of the shows conception). This show was with me near the beginning of middle school, and it’s with me now, right after my first semester of college. I think I say this for everyone when I say there’s nothing quite like this show. Thank you for the years of entertainment
I'm definitely up for all the Ultimate Spidey. Especially because of how Ethan and Ben react to the insanity that unfolds.
The banter at the end especially the professor X part was the best
1:09:57 This improv bit about Nick Fury is an all-time great Back Issues moment. When they get into a riff (Colossus after Secret Wars, Rhino's ability to use the bathroom, etc.) it can't be topped
59:00
The simultaneous OH SHIT was fucking amazing!
20:05 it's like poetry. It rhymes.
I gotta say the editing in the video was on fire. Absolutely hysterical!
Holy hell. Sal made my mind practically come the closest it ever has to time traveling with that "Trip Like I Do" joke/reference. Seriously underappreciated, even his impersonation was fairly spot on.
I'm sitting here listening to the episode while working and I just hear Ben quoting the exact Mitch Hedberg bit I used to introduce my girlfriend to his comic genius last week and I busted out laughing. Great stuff!
Honestly that new Miles clone saga they recently did was also pretty solid, but it definitely helped that it was only like 4 issues. Wouldn’t mind seeing that covered on here eventually since we have finally gotten the Ultimate Clone Saga.
Maybe for Across the Spider-verse
Also, it had built up before hand.
Sal explicitly states he will NEVER do it.
Shift is a surprisingly fun character to come out of that, discount-mute-spidercide-miles-clone
Ultimate Clone Saga released now and not a few years later?! It’s an early Christmas miracle!
I have watched this multiple times, and it is still as entertaining each time... Keep up the good work!!
Hell yes this series is still alive! Please churn more of these out while the spider algo is still hot
Definitely some weird shit in here, but when I read this book for the first time a few years back I was absolutely riveted. I honestly love how Pete is out of the costume the majority of this arc, since both his worlds are clashing.
Best way to start my 9-day vacation. Thank you so much for continuing to do this incredible series.
I was literally just watching the ultimate spiderman playlist and thinking “i hope they put out the next ep soon”
I actually really liked this story!! You guys are a lot of fun I love the storytelling. New sub here! Thank you mr. Sunday movies for bringing me here!
Looks like it’s time for Ultimate Crack Issues everybody! I once had a friend who cares little for the Ultimate universe. This was the trade that changed his mind. Anyways, thank you Comicpop for being great suppliers of such wonderful content!
This is why Bagley is such a good Spiderman artist, he's had to draw him so many times in clone sagas since the 90's
More Ultimate Spiderman!!!! I love when you guys do this series. I cant wait until you do the death. Hopefully we get there
Hadn’t revisited this one in a while. Great stuff, and I felt your storytelling was great this round Sal. Keep going! I hope you stay with this until Bendis left the book. Thats when I left. Fingers crossed, I’ll stick with ya!
Timing couldn't of been timed more perfectly, re-reading the whole Ultimate series for the first time in 10 years and just completed the Clone arc.
Thanks.
42:30 Excellent 'The Crystal Method' reference.
I would absolutely love to see the more Ultimate Spiderman every so often especially the next vol
Ultimate Spider-man is my favorite series and favorite back issues series. I live for these.
I thought we were waiting til 300k! What a lovely holiday surprise!
I will not be satisfied until you've covered every comic book set in the ultimate universe... nah I'm just kidding, this was great though, I always look forward to the ultimate spider-man series but it's far from the only thing that I'm here for.
1:10:00 I lost my shit at that bit. Thank you. I needed that laugh today
Ultimate spiderman is definitely an amazing series I love watching you guys discuss. Christmas came early for me this year!
Seeing the new Hawkeye episode and waiting for Charlie Cox to appear in No Way Home, the next volume may be even more topical than this one.
Loved the show, thanks guys
Sal singing "Quip like I do" is hilarious. #Spawnsoundtrack
Best Christmas present EVER!!!!!!
Bitter sweet really, it's great seeing the Ultimate Clone Saga finally done, but a bit sad the crew is probably done with Ultimate Spider-Man.
I don’t know what it is, but this is my favorite episode of the show. I keep coming back to it.
Jesus christ I love all things comic pop the only UA-cam I have watched consistently from the first time I watched a video. Great job guys love everything you do.
@17:17 oh god Slipknot the man who can climb anything has kidnapped MJ. How can Spider-man handle such a dangerous foe
I was literally just watching the Clone Saga episode and thought “gee u wish they did USM clone saga”
Thank you Santa and Sal for this!
I appreciate the trip like I do ref.
The best clone story yet.
I feel like comparing this to the other clone saga/stories isn't a fair comparison. I watched the video and the story seemed so different I read it digitally. Gotta say, every complaint the original had, feels absent from this one. It wasn't gross, weird or felt like leaps in logic were taken to the extreme. I really enjoyed this one. And y'all made it Priceless. Thanks guys 😁
I am screaming internally with excitement as I watch this.
I was kinda miffed they broke up Peter and kitty around here. It felt abrupt and I thought they could have talked that out. Especially given issue 200 and everyone's reminiscing. My heart really went out to kitty.
yay ultimate clone saga one of my all time favorite ultimate spider-man stories that has peter parker and mary jane finally reunite and be a couple again also this was probably my favorite clone saga story I've read back in the day, and introduced one of my ultimate marvel characters ultimate jessica drew ultimate spider-woman.
I needed this this week. Thank you guys so much for making finals bearable and alleviating the stress of the holidays (as well as the balance of work/school life). I owe you guys a big one!
THIS WAS THE BEST TIME FOR THIS EPISODE
Loving the amount of “Whats?!” Sal is able to get out them this episode
I just started rewatching all of the Ultimate Spider-Man Back Issues, this is perfect timing
This is great! I was literally just rewatching all the other clone saga back issues the last couple of days
44:00 funnily enough, they basically show you what that looks like in the Clone Conspiracy!
remember that one guy that was just a brain, nervous system and eyes?
I have waited for this for years.
Please don't stop doing Ultimate Spider-Man! Love these back issues
Nice!!!!! So happy to see a new episode of back issues :)
Sals reference to filter - trip like i do. nice. i didnt think anyone else remembered that song from spawn lol
I think Scorpion Peter was brought back much later in one of the Ultimate Avengers storylines, but just used as a generic evil clone
That synced "oh shit" edit qas prety sweet. It was small but really gotnthe feeling through esp when as a viewer your watching and are feeling same thing. Well done my my peeps.
OF COURSE WE WANT THE NEXT VOLUME!
...and also
JLA:THE NAAAAAAAAAAIIIIILLLLLL!!!
I remember reading this when it was coming out and the Marvel website said that MJ turning into a sasquatch was supposed to be that universe's Demogoblin and the six armed Peter is Tarantula.
Imagine if 616 Otto-Doc Ock had his 1610-Ultimate Counterpart's Mutant Powers.
It's a Christmas miracle!! Funnily enough THIS particular story arc is where I started to read Ultimate Spider-Man all those years ago. Still one of my favorite stories in comics.
Yay ultimate spiderman to wrap up the year! Merry Christmas comicpop!
Came here right after the clone conspiracy video, excited to see the good clone saga talked about
This show and channel was and is the biggest inspiration for me and my channel and the videos I make glad we finally made it to ultimate clone saga
13:07
Still am. Best comic series I've ever read.
No! Do more Ultimate Spider-man, I do love the next arc!
Great work! Its nice to finally get here. I'd love to continue on until Peter's "end" in this universe.
I, for one, would live to hear more of this.
Love we got Ultimate Spider-Man for the holidays! Hope it continues! And Happy holidays to the Comic Pop crew!
PLEASE MORE ULTIMATE SPIDERMAN, I love these videos
If Jessica Drew has all of peter’s memories and is nearly genetically identical, then wouldn’t that mean that she is attracted to Mary Jane as well?
Yup. There’s an issue of something in the Ultimate Universe where Jess makes it clear she’s into girls. Especially redheads(MJ) and Jewish girls(Kitty)
@@BoulderPunchPodcast1 I mean… she has good taste
@@Popcultureguy3000 she dated Johnny and then realized she didn’t really like men, but she tried to. If Jessica is bi then that means Peter is bi, but he’s never shown any attraction to Johnny
@@Pedro-zu3uq that would’ve been interesting. sadly the ultimate universe didn’t push those boundaries much.
I know you guys have it as a pateron option i think but your guys content is so good you can literally just upload the audio as a podcast on spotify or something and itll be just as funny interesting and entertaining. Not saying the video doesn’t add anything just saying that how strong your personalities are
YES Ultimate Spider-Man!
This is one of my favorites so far. He made the clone saga fun
Just in time and glad to see the latest comic pop episode doing another video with ultimate Spider-Man again! Always a good time! I remember when the 100th issue came out around the same time as Spider-Man 3. 6th grade was a heck of a time as a SPIDEY fan. And now is just the same!
Awesome episode, guys! I'd love to watch one on Vol 18 with Daredevil, or Vol 21, showing Brock's return and loosely adapting the pre-existing game's plot (you don't see that every day!).
Personally, I'm not that big on the idea of making Jessica Drew a litteral clone of Peter. The cool thing about 616 Jessica is that she has nothing to do with Peter aside from having Spider in her superhero name (because Marvel needed to get copyright on the Spiderwoman name) and the basic "proportional Spider abilities" idea.
She's not related to him in any way (didn't even know who he was until her 20th issue), she has a completely different backstory and even different powers and skills from Peter (trading the spider-sense, web shooters and science knowledge for Venom blasts, gliding powers, pheromones and Spy training). It all contributed in making Jessica feel way more like her own character who just happens to have a similar name rather than just a female derivative of a male hero.
So it's kinda weird to make her ultimate counterpart not only a derivative of Peter, but a straight up clone of him. Makes her look a lot less unique. Granted, this is a different version of Jessica so it's not like they *ruined* her or anything. And it's not like it automatically makes ultimate Jess a bad character. It's just a concept I'm not a big fan of.
But I know that Bendis didn't mean anything bad by it (considering he loves Spiderwoman enough to create Jessica Jones based on her and to give Miles her Venom Blast ability) and just wanted Jessica in the Ultimate universe by any means necessary.
(Also, 1:10:04 is hilarious)
To be fair, I have only heard of this with this video but I think the Ock reveal is kinda dumb. I had a physical reaction of “that sucksssss” to the mutant magnetic manipulation thing. Ock being a tragic, human figure grafted to his own hubris makes him interesting, and rather sympathetic despite the master planner schtick. But to each their own.
616 Otto still is a thing 😅🤷🏻♀️
The thing is doc ock was never really tragic in the ultimate like he was always kinda of a douche bag and it wasn’t even his arrogance that was just him. So Personally I could accept them letting go of the arms .
The whole hubris angle was just tobey maguire thing (wich yeah did add to his character)
Please do all of the Ultimate Spiderman!!! I look forward to these!!!
I love this channel 💀
Love the Ultimate Spider Man episodes!
Always here for Ultimate Spider-Man. I mean I also I'm pretty much always here anyway. I love back issues, but Ultimate Spider-Man has a special place
War of the symbiotes, death of a goblin and death of spider-man are well worth covering too
Honey wake up comic pop released another ultimate Spider-Man video