Y'all are being like "Karkat is acting like Kankri", but I'd like to point out that Karkat has been doing the paragraphs-long angry rant thing since he showed up. It's a Vantas thing!
exactly karkat has always been doing that he proves his point. like kankri he explains things in paragraphs .I think that no matter who they are in the vantas family they will explain things as such.
I only finally understood it once I got to read it xD (currently at the beginning of Act 6, been on break). However I'll never understand truly how their quadrants work x.x I can get the basics but it'll take a Karkat to be my tutor to teach me its complexities😂
I actually read the creator-placed troll in homestuck where he says "I can play that troll love shit back to back to back to back" to actually understand the concept. I'm still pretty lost, but I'm determined to master this shit.
+Sad's Channel The only qualm I have with this is that Auspisticism often has to keep a Kismestitude not from getting too hot, but from getting too... broad. They make sure it doesn't include anyone else. But as far as simple explanations go, I love this :D
+ginja ninja Okay, yeah, I don't know how I didn't see that one coming. I'd give you a disappointed thumbs up, but there's not really any way for me to express that over UA-cam's comment section.
Quadrant romance make so much more sense than "normal" romance XD I'll just be watching a movie and be like "It's a black romance, why can't quadrants be a thing" XD
Y'know how some people ship the hero with the villain? Like Sherlock and Moriarty or the Doctor and the Master (if you've seen Sherlock or Dr. Who). What holds those ships together is basically black romance.
*Basically* , you love this person and they love you too, BUT that other person's a bitch, and youre a bitch to them too. So as you hate each other for being bitch-ass jerks or whatnot, you also really wanna shove em against a wall cuz it pretty kinky to hate each other while also in love with one another. As a, kinda loose, example, its like those scenes in movies where the two start heatedly arguing with each other and they keep yelling and stuff but as they get close to each other's face they suddenly start aggressively make out Tah-da, hate romance, black romance.
+MyeandOblivion I'll make it if people pay me to, but otherwise...I mean, c'mon guys, this is the first Homestuck thing I made in months 'cause I felt like I owed it to someone! And I already slaved over a Homestuck animation for two and a half years, I feel like I get a pass if I don't feel like making anymore. @v@
Ok I guess if you don't feel like it anymore we can't force you so yea I guess I will look forward to other content on your channel also don't worry about me unsubscribing I will be always loyal even if you're going to stop with some content :)
+EmptyFeet quad-ran-gle n. 1. a four sided n-drangle. _Karkat proposed a romantic quadrangle with himself, dave, terezi, and gamzee._ See also: Romantic Quadrangle
Quadrants are pretty much the only thing that makes sense in HS. In my opinion it’s probably the most simple thing next to the Ectobiology “everyone is each other’s siblings” mess.
This was always my favorite part of reading homestuck honestly. When the Vantases would start rambling about the lore and culture for trolls and Alternia. I always thought it was the most interesting part
Ahhhh! You're animation style is so amazing, even when it's just a storyboard, the raw emotion in the expressions is so perfect! I would be so great to see some trashy davekat crap >.< I can't wait until I start animating! You're an inspiration and I love your work!
I hope Homestuck content never stops coming out. The fandom has really died out in recent years, which is unfortunate. I mean, Homestuck used to be fucking everywhere. It was a huge deal; a primary fandom in the grand hierarchy of fandoms. Now, though, it's really become a much more niche thing, kept alive by the more serious fans off in their own little corner, rather than exploding out of every conceivable orifice of the internet, dragging unsuspecting bystanders into the inescapable vortex that is Homestuck. Basically, what I'm saying is, I want Homestuck to become a big deal again, and stick around for a while. It had a few good years, but they didn't last long enough. I know kingdoms rise and fall, and no fandom stays important or relevant in the big picture for very long. Eventually, all fandoms become little pockets of diehard fans, being weird off in some obscure, isolated crevice of the internet, and generally not mattering in the eyes of the greater scheme of fandoms. But Homestuck's flame burned twice as bright, and died out way too fast. I mean, seriously, who the fuck actually makes Homestuck fan-content anymore? Video dubs almost never come out anymore, new fanart and fanfiction is getting scarcer, and generally the endless stream of material is just slowing down hard, especially on the video front. What new Homestuck videos have YOU seen in the last couple years, besides the official stuff released recently? I always just find myself watching old-ass stuff from 2012 and 2013, back when people spat out Homestuck videos left and fucking right. Nowadays, you never see new Homestuck anything, and that's not right. There's been some stuff here and there, but it's nowhere near the level of saturation it used to have. I want to cling desperately to the past, back when Homestuck was relevant and popular. Its fire should burn 3 times as brightly, and never run out of fuel, because fuck the laws of thermodynamics.
It's a bad thing that... Not only did I understand that whole thing, but I also want to read that book... Isn't it? xD Pls tell me I'm not alone here. ;~;
Ok old video but Karkat really is that one friend that acts like a professional on romance and everyone goes to them for advice, but has never actually dated anyone. He really gets all his info from romance novels lmaooo
I can't believe it took me moving out of a homestuck phase, then coming back to this scene AGAIN during quarantine, YEARS LATER- to understand what Karkat was saying, as he was saying it.
Looking back on this conversation, this sounds a lot the two having a subtle discussion about their relationship and how it they're used to different relationship dynamics. Karkat is saying something like, "Hey, we can be in a relationship, but this is what I'm used to and this is what you should expect." And Daves doesn't give a crap and just thinks, "What is the point of having a relationship if I'm not the only one? No." just a reflection. I
if i remember correctly there's a screencap that looks like a straight up reference to karkat's initial shipping chart (and the screaming face that goes along with it) in that episode with percy and pierre
I don't know what's worse, the fact that I understood Karkat perfectly well.... or the fact that I was intrigued enough to relate and agree with him xD
LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY SOLD THEIR SOUL FOR ANIMATION SKILLS. .... could I please give you my soul to sell too? tell satan its the chick that sacrificed that narwhal the other day.
+Raccoon Mistress Actually Satan doesn't accept souls (or even narwhals) for animation skills. Instead he asked me for fifteen years of practice! Pretty good deal, right??
loved this! i totally understand the fatigue working on your other projects must have inspired, so thank you for putting this up anyway, it was really cool of you. :)
this is honestly one of my favorite animations ever, i love your storyboarding and case and toooooch and ahHHHH theres so much yes in one place i can hardly handle it it's like the best of the best came together and just high fived and created this single production of enchantment and beauty and it's just my favorite thing
I really like this, it's a lot more easier to follow than reading and easy to focus on. Your art is fantastic as always and the VAs did a really good job.
@@nataliem5425 in the video I thought i could hear more southern accents and patterns in his voice, I've heard or maybe saw somewhere that Dave is from Texas
the voice acting was so good! I'm glad you as an artist have expanded from homestuck but it's still a nice gift from you to upload this. I look forward for more of your work!
oh my god if this extends to Dave suplexing Karkat, one of my favorite scenes in the whole darn thing, i will love you and forgive you for anything you've ever done in your life i've subscribed in preparation
+Sarah Krishef Naw, sorry, this is it! I just finished this because I thought the VAs deserved to see something for their efforts. But this is all they recorded anyway!
A long time ago my friend and I were quite pale for each other. Often saying "pale for you " and making the diamond symbol with our fingers. We used the quadrant system as a way to communicate our feelings towards each other and people. Saying we were black for someone was easier than trying to explain why we want to punch and kiss a person at the same time. ♦️♥️♣️♠️
![Upon a Dream Bubble [Homestuck Comic Dub]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QNBTBG6qROQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![Upon a Dream Bubble [Homestuck Comic Dub]](/img/tr.png)
![Welcome to Hell 2 - [Part 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ITfyrnrQRoE/mqdefault.jpg)
Y'all are being like "Karkat is acting like Kankri", but I'd like to point out that Karkat has been doing the paragraphs-long angry rant thing since he showed up. It's a Vantas thing!
PREACH
SOMEONE PAYS ATTENTION.
IT'S REALLY NOT JUST
"FUCKASS
fUCK
FUCKASS"
LIKE READ THE FUCKING MEMOS IN ACT 5
Especially when it comes to romance. Karkat _is_ after all the so-called "expert" in quadrants. :P
exactly karkat has always been doing that he proves his point. like kankri he explains things in paragraphs .I think that no matter who they are in the vantas family they will explain things as such.
I was waiting for them to break out into song before I realized the script was from canon
TBH we all need Karkats voice
XD
Karkat is me trying to explain Homestuck to my friends.
yes, now my friends think it all comes down to only signs, and nothing more. I gave up.
same, especially my one friend who heard the meaning of kissmesitude and was just like "nope"
I only finally understood it once I got to read it xD (currently at the beginning of Act 6, been on break). However I'll never understand truly how their quadrants work x.x
I can get the basics but it'll take a Karkat to be my tutor to teach me its complexities😂
I actually read the creator-placed troll in homestuck where he says "I can play that troll love shit back to back to back to back" to actually understand the concept.
I'm still pretty lost, but I'm determined to master this shit.
Sarah Nightngale I JUST SAID THAT XDDD
"JUST READ THE BOOK. IT'S ALL IN THE BOOK." kinda every time a novel gets turned into a movie tbh
eyrist *Percy Jackson fandom cries*
Me trying to get someone into honestuck:
@@moussedrizzl77 Homestuck is awesome
This is what is it sounds like when some explains homestuck to me...
Yesh same XD
+Miss Mandarin And that's just the relationships. And just the concupiscent ones at that.
I'm embarrassed to say I understood every single part of the explanation...
same 😂
+Camilo Brizuela You are not alone. v.v
same 😰
same
but i'm not embarrassed ouo
Camilo Brizuela I mean he made perfect sense.
Matespritship: Fuck me
Kismesissitude: Fuck you
Moirallegiance: Calm down
Auspisticism: Both of you calm down
Pretty much .-.
Perfectly summed up. Right there.
+Sad's Channel The only qualm I have with this is that Auspisticism often has to keep a Kismestitude not from getting too hot, but from getting too... broad. They make sure it doesn't include anyone else.
But as far as simple explanations go, I love this :D
😁 no not really
Matespritship: Love me
Kismesistude: Fuck you and just fuck me already
Ah I'm gonna miss the stucks of the home
Lmao
same
it is alive still heck off
Brinana good thing theres hiveswap
Me too... I got banned
"you must be out of your fucking mind if you think i wanna know where you're going with this"
god i love dave
who ever voiced karkat is exactly how I picture his voice
EXACTLY!!!
Fadeintocase did an Ask Karkat voice blog on Tumblr if you want to hear more. It's pretty fan fucking tastic.
DarthYodaJammin you mean it's pretty fucking "vantastic?" Haha
+ginja ninja Okay, yeah, I don't know how I didn't see that one coming. I'd give you a disappointed thumbs up, but there's not really any way for me to express that over UA-cam's comment section.
+ginja ninja What about this is ironic, exactly? I'm sorry, you lost me.
*when you try to explain your Oc's back stories to your friends, with a drawing
+Annabel Velvet mine are so complicated i have a tumblr for them
Especially Your Trollsona
Annabel Velvet me trying to explain my oc Lukas backstory to my brother
Ah yes. I too get asked why they are naked.
this was honestly perfect?? the voices, the body language, the inflections; great job
+Cooncay Dave's voice was eh
+Sawlan Wilson i thought the slight texan accent was a nice touch! it would make sense given his upbringing
Cooncay I've always imagined him with a clearer accent, a lot more polite-sounding, but still with his douchebag-y touch.
+Sawlan Wilson hmm yeah i guess i could see that working too
God, i miss this fandom
+Shittymatsu But we haven't died. We just Godteired
Tru that
+Ava Bluebird ^
I'll miss this fandom
+Ava Bluebird what Classpect would you give the fandom?
Wait, is this Karkat trying to work himself into a relationship with dave and terezi?
Yes.
Larksong G yep
Yes, essentially.
Who’s the fourth?
JOHN??
I was going to try to explain it in plainer language until I realized Karkat's explanation is as simple as it gets.
lol same
ahahah
Quadrant romance make so much more sense than "normal" romance XD
I'll just be watching a movie and be like
"It's a black romance, why can't quadrants be a thing" XD
Thanks to Quadrants I finally understand my feeling.
I am pale for everyone, with one black crush.
i never completely understood black romance
Y'know how some people ship the hero with the villain? Like Sherlock and Moriarty or the Doctor and the Master (if you've seen Sherlock or Dr. Who). What holds those ships together is basically black romance.
I know Right!
*Basically* , you love this person and they love you too, BUT that other person's a bitch, and youre a bitch to them too. So as you hate each other for being bitch-ass jerks or whatnot, you also really wanna shove em against a wall cuz it pretty kinky to hate each other while also in love with one another.
As a, kinda loose, example, its like those scenes in movies where the two start heatedly arguing with each other and they keep yelling and stuff but as they get close to each other's face they suddenly start aggressively make out
Tah-da, hate romance, black romance.
am i the only one who understood what karkat was saying
nope! check out the rest of the comments, haha
XD
Naw...
ηєρєтα нαяℓєу no, I got it
ηєρєтα нαяℓєу yup I got it
Please don't stop making Homestuck stuff. So many people have already stopped, and many of us still want more of this stuff
Ikr plz keep makin more
Us three shall beg
+MyeandOblivion I'll make it if people pay me to, but otherwise...I mean, c'mon guys, this is the first Homestuck thing I made in months 'cause I felt like I owed it to someone! And I already slaved over a Homestuck animation for two and a half years, I feel like I get a pass if I don't feel like making anymore. @v@
Ok I guess if you don't feel like it anymore we can't force you so yea I guess I will look forward to other content on your channel also don't worry about me unsubscribing I will be always loyal even if you're going to stop with some content :)
Is it odd that I actually find this fascinating and am disappointed that they didn't explain more of how leprechaun romance works?
No
Leprechauns...? Wrong race buddy
Login Failed Isn't that what the Felt's race is called? Their romance symbols were even called "charms".
Yah, sorry I thought you were referring to what was in the video ^^,
"quad-triangle"
what r u talking about karkat this goes beyond my logic.
Quadrant-triangle
+RaiderRandom "Quadrangle"
+EmptyFeet quad-ran-gle n.
1. a four sided n-drangle.
_Karkat proposed a romantic quadrangle with himself, dave, terezi, and gamzee._
See also: Romantic Quadrangle
+EmptyFeet karkat, your kankri is showing.
Same.
Is it bad that I completely understood all of that?
+WW)(47 maybe maybe not
same
WW)(47 After listening to it over and over, and really trying to understand. That happens
WW)(47 same lol
Na
Quadrants are pretty much the only thing that makes sense in HS. In my opinion it’s probably the most simple thing next to the Ectobiology “everyone is each other’s siblings” mess.
I was just as lost as Dave.
I understood like a shipper
the explanation only confused me more
This was always my favorite part of reading homestuck honestly. When the Vantases would start rambling about the lore and culture for trolls and Alternia. I always thought it was the most interesting part
Ahhhh! You're animation style is so amazing, even when it's just a storyboard, the raw emotion in the expressions is so perfect! I would be so great to see some trashy davekat crap >.< I can't wait until I start animating! You're an inspiration and I love your work!
Karkat. Karkat. Bro. Bro......why are you like this. How dare you for being so precious I just-................why
Oh MAn that Dave has a perfect "dorky as hell but trying to sound cool" voice
I hope Homestuck content never stops coming out. The fandom has really died out in recent years, which is unfortunate. I mean, Homestuck used to be fucking everywhere. It was a huge deal; a primary fandom in the grand hierarchy of fandoms. Now, though, it's really become a much more niche thing, kept alive by the more serious fans off in their own little corner, rather than exploding out of every conceivable orifice of the internet, dragging unsuspecting bystanders into the inescapable vortex that is Homestuck.
Basically, what I'm saying is, I want Homestuck to become a big deal again, and stick around for a while. It had a few good years, but they didn't last long enough.
I know kingdoms rise and fall, and no fandom stays important or relevant in the big picture for very long. Eventually, all fandoms become little pockets of diehard fans, being weird off in some obscure, isolated crevice of the internet, and generally not mattering in the eyes of the greater scheme of fandoms. But Homestuck's flame burned twice as bright, and died out way too fast.
I mean, seriously, who the fuck actually makes Homestuck fan-content anymore? Video dubs almost never come out anymore, new fanart and fanfiction is getting scarcer, and generally the endless stream of material is just slowing down hard, especially on the video front.
What new Homestuck videos have YOU seen in the last couple years, besides the official stuff released recently? I always just find myself watching old-ass stuff from 2012 and 2013, back when people spat out Homestuck videos left and fucking right. Nowadays, you never see new Homestuck anything, and that's not right. There's been some stuff here and there, but it's nowhere near the level of saturation it used to have.
I want to cling desperately to the past, back when Homestuck was relevant and popular.
Its fire should burn 3 times as brightly, and never run out of fuel, because fuck the laws of thermodynamics.
At least Hiveswap is coming out soon!!
I'm going to be 90 in a retirement home and still doodling homestuck. Don't you worry. It will live as long as I do.
Wē līvē ōn, īn whāt cōmēs āftēr ūs
It's a bad thing that... Not only did I understand that whole thing, but I also want to read that book... Isn't it? xD
Pls tell me I'm not alone here. ;~;
+Crysi Crysis you're not the only one XD
+Crysi Crysis You're not alone XD
+Crysi Crysis Gotta say I agree with Karkat, Troll romance is MUCH more engaging than our primitive love triangles XD
your definitely not alone XD
+Ethan Leach u guys r not alone.
*Me trying to explain how my friend group functions as a whole *
"It's the grubloaf and tuber paste of the story"
Karkats explaining the 'meat and potatoes' of the story.
this starts getting more complicated once you Factor In leprechaun romance.
This is literally my favorite Homestuck video, and I have to watch it like at least once every few months.
Ok old video but Karkat really is that one friend that acts like a professional on romance and everyone goes to them for advice, but has never actually dated anyone. He really gets all his info from romance novels lmaooo
What will Rose do? I heard she likes to steal trashy romance novels and read them in dark corners. One must be careful.
What.
Why
is this
so beauitful
like
oh my gog
My reaction to your profile picture.
It's the kankri of romance!
Or maybe Kankri is the Karkat of bad social justice!
That too. I guess ranting about things no one really cares about or listens to runs in the family...?
Evan Parker karkat was first though. Kankri was always the shitter version just for laughs
I love your work, you do such amazing concept work and storyboards, this was a real treat!
+Callipepla “Quail” Californica Aw, thanks! I'm glad you like my stuff.
I can't believe it took me moving out of a homestuck phase, then coming back to this scene AGAIN during quarantine, YEARS LATER- to understand what Karkat was saying, as he was saying it.
I haven't read Homestuck in like a year or more so why do I understand what Karkles is saying
because the homestuck in you're mind never leaves
I never finished reading it and I get what he's saying entirely XD
Headcanoning this Karkart voice so fucking hard right now.
What's scary is that I understand all of this so easily.
Karkat broke my brain. Ow.
This getting recommended to me again in 2023... God dammit it was out of my head
Looking back on this conversation, this sounds a lot the two having a subtle discussion about their relationship and how it they're used to different relationship dynamics. Karkat is saying something like, "Hey, we can be in a relationship, but this is what I'm used to and this is what you should expect." And Daves doesn't give a crap and just thinks, "What is the point of having a relationship if I'm not the only one? No." just a reflection. I
Delusional Ginger I agree!
I loved how so very done Dave was in this entire sequence
why does karkat remind me of peridot in that one episode in SU? xD
+SmileyFreak ((Because Percy and Pierre are the best pair.
SmileyFreak Ooh looks like I found another SU AND HS fannn :D
I totally forgot I wrote this :P
SmileyFreak "It's subtext, Steven."
if i remember correctly there's a screencap that looks like a straight up reference to karkat's initial shipping chart (and the screaming face that goes along with it) in that episode with percy and pierre
I don't know what's worse, the fact that I understood Karkat perfectly well.... or the fact that I was intrigued enough to relate and agree with him xD
dammit dave just read the goddamn book
LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY SOLD THEIR SOUL FOR ANIMATION SKILLS.
....
could I please give you my soul to sell too? tell satan its the chick that sacrificed that narwhal the other day.
+Raccoon Mistress Actually Satan doesn't accept souls (or even narwhals) for animation skills. Instead he asked me for fifteen years of practice! Pretty good deal, right??
***** WOWEE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT DEAL!
(also you replied WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT nobody ever replies to me)
It is all in the book, Dave.
The thing that scares me most is that after being in this fandom for 2 years I can finally understand karkat ' shivers '.
Me looking for literally ANY homestuck shit.
Despite not remembering at least 30% of it.
loved this! i totally understand the fatigue working on your other projects must have inspired, so thank you for putting this up anyway, it was really cool of you. :)
Dang man I’d love to read that it’s just the whole Sollux Aradia Eridan Feferi situation hahah
EVEN THE BLOOD COLORINGS WORK OUT LMAO
this is honestly one of my favorite animations ever, i love your storyboarding and case and toooooch and ahHHHH theres so much yes in one place i can hardly handle it it's like the best of the best came together and just high fived and created this single production of enchantment and beauty and it's just my favorite thing
dave's face is priceless
I really like this, it's a lot more easier to follow than reading and easy to focus on. Your art is fantastic as always and the VAs did a really good job.
This is my favorite interaction in the entire story aaaaaa.
Homestuck confuses me greatly, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I love Dave's voice
He's actually southern
@@doctordisco5814 what do you mean?
@@nataliem5425 in the video I thought i could hear more southern accents and patterns in his voice, I've heard or maybe saw somewhere that Dave is from Texas
they both sound like theyre voiced by asiz ansari holy shit i love this
+ThePartyGrandma Honestly, my headcannon voice for them.
Sort of like how Papyrus often sounds like Gilbert Godfry.
I just realized that Dave is me when my friends try to explain Homestuck to me.
Every once in a while i rewatch this video and every time i do i understand it more
am I the only one that actually knew what he was talking about? yes? okay, I'll just sit here in my corner then
no i understand it even though i dont want to
don't worry, I got it too. Idk why but I did
+Bekka Anderson I got it too
+Bekka Anderson i understood
I completely understand. I'm a Witch of Heart, after all. :)
This is awesome. I haven't gotten that far in Homestuck but this is still awesome. Please make the final animation for this😱
I REMEMBER THIS FROM THE ACTUAL COMIC
the voice acting was so good! I'm glad you as an artist have expanded from homestuck but it's still a nice gift from you to upload this. I look forward for more of your work!
They're voices are just.
The best.
another gem of a scene which has now been retconned
With the arrival of Hiveswap, I felt the need to come back and watch your animations and stuff. Ah the memories
I can't wait to see more of your stuff, fandom or otherwise!
I sense davekat
Even countries ship it...
This is honestly my favorite thing ever
I love this, I love Karkat’s voice, this is my new headcanon
this is really good! if they ever end up making an animated show of homestuck, I hope they at least consider hiring you!
I dont know how to feel that I haven't looked at homestuck In years yet I still understand this
These are my head canon voices. I love the Texan accent for Dave and karkat's high slightly gravely voice is perfect.
aaahhh this was too perfect
oh my god if this extends to Dave suplexing Karkat, one of my favorite scenes in the whole darn thing, i will love you and forgive you for anything you've ever done in your life
i've subscribed in preparation
+Sarah Krishef Naw, sorry, this is it! I just finished this because I thought the VAs deserved to see something for their efforts. But this is all they recorded anyway!
***** Aw, oh well. XD Still, thanks for making this! It's really well done.
i love this, and the voice actors a LOT.
Oh man, This is FANTASTIC. Great job you guys!
Am i the only one who loves it when people geek out like this?
HEY LOOK ITS DAVEKAT BEFORE THEY STARTED DATING
understood nothing karkat was saying, stayed for the animation and voice acting which are both fantastic
why do I love this so much?
Yes DAVE, it's all in the book.
A long time ago my friend and I were quite pale for each other. Often saying "pale for you " and making the diamond symbol with our fingers. We used the quadrant system as a way to communicate our feelings towards each other and people. Saying we were black for someone was easier than trying to explain why we want to punch and kiss a person at the same time. ♦️♥️♣️♠️
I can feel my brain fizzling. Thanks, Karkat
I love this so incredibly much
This makes me giggle like a fool every time I watch it
omg my babies are precious! !!!!!
THE KARKAT VOICE IS SO GOOD
Ah, yes, that beautiful word. All you can think about is housetrapped.
You are so glad the English language has a word for this feeling.
Karkat's voice is flawless!!!!
“I dunno Karkat… that’s kinda sus bro…”
Dave probably, 2013
Finally, Karkat’s rant makes sense!
This is me when I try to explain fandoms to people.
this is why I love Karkat
2 years later i still understand this