Why No One Reads Anymore

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  • @metaphysicofmonkeys
    @metaphysicofmonkeys  11 днів тому +19

    Hey Guys,
    I have a favor to ask. This channel is hamstringed from the great purge of 2016 all MGTOW creators suffered. I started a new channel and would like to request you subscribe to it too.
    The new channel:
    www.youtube.com/@marcusantoniusrapto
    There is a long form video of mine on there now that I have not posted to this channel:
    ua-cam.com/video/VjM6-ZX_Pfw/v-deo.html
    I do not plan on taking Groundwork for The Metaphysics of MGTOW down, but merely retiring effort once the new channel gains some traction.
    Thank you all for staying with me all this time, here’s hoping for a bright future ahead!
    Go team!

    • @734ch3r
      @734ch3r 11 днів тому

      Glad to be the second subscriber there. I haven't watched this video yet, but just let me tell you that I usually read 3 to 5 books at a time, from mangas and comics to fiction and non-fiction. Currently going through a large tome containing Edgar Allan Poe's entire career.

    • @mr.nakamura9088
      @mr.nakamura9088 11 днів тому +1

      Proud to be subscriber #10 to one of the "golden age" creators.

    • @csehszlovakze
      @csehszlovakze 11 днів тому

      Do you plan on posting MGTOW-related videos there or mostly other topics?

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  11 днів тому +3

      @@csehszlovakze It will be breadth wise going your own way philosophy. It's not going to be women oriented, however.

    • @bhutehole
      @bhutehole 10 днів тому

      I think your problem is i didnt finish your video because it was boring

  • @xanthippus9079
    @xanthippus9079 11 днів тому +28

    “Education...has produced a vast population able to read but unable to distinguish what is worth reading.”
    ― George Macaulay Trevelyan

    • @AJX-2
      @AJX-2 5 днів тому +1

      "A precondition for for reading good books is not reading bad ones - life is short"
      -- Arthur Schopenhauer

  • @theLittle726
    @theLittle726 11 днів тому +17

    I learned infinitely more from the dozens of classics I independently read than the entirety of my academic education

  • @MessengerRising
    @MessengerRising 11 днів тому +11

    I still read books. I recently made a library on my boat. It's full of classics, philosophy, some religious books and many academic psychology books.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  11 днів тому +2

      Home libraries are great. Just looking at a well crafted full bookshelf inspires you to read.

    • @MessengerRising
      @MessengerRising 9 днів тому

      ​@@metaphysicofmonkeys Books also make good ballast. They way a lot so I had to split the library in two and distribute them either side of the boat.

  • @boondoggle4820
    @boondoggle4820 11 днів тому +8

    I think that part of the problem is that many people are so used to distractions that they can’t take silence, and reading typically involves hours and hours of silence. A lot of people need constant distractions from electronic devices or from socializing.

    • @necrosteel5013
      @necrosteel5013 5 днів тому

      that's just the symptom lad... if they wanted to learn they would find ways to assimilate such information into a format on those electronic devices and in their conversations. knowledge absorbed naturally flows out of a person, it is as easy as breathing when it truly is understood.

  • @LOUDMOUTHTYRONE
    @LOUDMOUTHTYRONE 11 днів тому +12

    I'm not a book reader. I read 26 volumes of Mushoku Tensei. Took an absolutely long time but I fell in love with it. Can't read a Harry Potter book. I tried and quit.

    • @exnihilonihilfit6316
      @exnihilonihilfit6316 10 днів тому +1

      Read "Atlas Shrugged".
      Go on a 1-day dopamine detox before you start, though.

    • @gordo6908
      @gordo6908 2 дні тому

      light novel or manga?

    • @LOUDMOUTHTYRONE
      @LOUDMOUTHTYRONE 2 дні тому

      @@gordo6908 Webnovel and light novel later

  • @eddie-ni5ox
    @eddie-ni5ox 10 днів тому +5

    Completely right, reading Illiad in a day or a week without greater context and understanding of Greek mythos, Ancient Greek society and the concepts of general Pantheons is less than useless. Reading is about absorbing greater concepts, ideas of that society/time period and alot more... its not mass produced Barnes & nobles garbage

  • @effyourstyle
    @effyourstyle 9 днів тому +2

    35:00
    I think when those surveyed said they didn't read because of a 'lack of time', it was a lack of bandwidth from their brain being exhausted from mediating the cognitive dissonance of doing things they didn't want to do all day

  • @Joutube_is_trash
    @Joutube_is_trash 10 днів тому +5

    I was an advanced reader for my age when I was in my first 4 years of school, after the accelerated reader program started forcing us to read by volume I was punished for reading one dense book instead of multiple baby books a month. This triggered my anti authoritarian tendencies so I stopped reading completely out of spite.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  10 днів тому +4

      Volume reading is insane to me. People can build an entire career on trying to get a deep understanding of a single book.
      For example, the Platonic dialogues, or the Bible.

    • @Joutube_is_trash
      @Joutube_is_trash 10 днів тому +5

      @@metaphysicofmonkeys Yeah the system demanded both a certain number of books read and points received from testing. Caused a lot of people to just read throwaway children's books to reach the number and watch the movie adaptation of novels where even a failing grade of 20% on a test was more than enough points for the monthly requirement.
      Its kinda funny because the early implementation of the system was purely rewarding with no requirements which resulted in a competitive drive to improve reading comprehension quicker and advance through reading levels to surpass your peers. Public schooling really loves to just ruin any good thing they stumble upon.

    • @pepper5128
      @pepper5128 8 днів тому

      @@Joutube_is_trash _"Public schooling really loves to just ruin any good thing they stumble upon."_ Have truer words ever been spoken?

    • @pepper5128
      @pepper5128 8 днів тому

      @@Joutube_is_trash This is why I'm thankful that they don't teach philosophy at school.

  • @khaosklub
    @khaosklub 10 днів тому +3

    I wouldn't consider it fair nor meaningful to compare how reading in english is taught compared to most other languages, especially when it comes to the phonics approach. because english isn't phonetic.
    like, how do you teach a child to read in english? what sound does "A" make? the sound it makes depends on:
    - regional dialect
    - surrounding letters
    - location in a word
    - origin of the word.
    so, typically, kids are taught that "a" makes the sound "æ" (IPA), which works only in a few simple words, like 'that", "cat", "rat".
    then you have words like "amount" and "awful", where A makes the "ʌ" and "ɑ" sounds respectively. here, "A" overlaps with what we're taught that "U" and "O" sound like. so how on earth can you teach children phonetics? and the phonetics of the language are constantly shifting too.
    take the word "train". how does one pronounce this? this seems to depend on the generation, because older people pronounce it "treɪn" while the younger people tend to pronounce it "tʃreɪn". this is the difference between the T sound and the CH sound.
    and then there's teaching how to read on words that have multiple generally accepted pronunciations like "aunt" and "route". words that change pronunciation depending on whether you're using the noun or verb form, like "content" and "envelope". worse yet, you have "read" itself, which is ironically the worst word to read, because it depends on the tense it's in.
    and then you have alternate spellings depending on which country you're in. "center" vs "centre", "hiccup" vs "hiccough" (not anymore, but used to be), "color" vs "colour", "prize" vs "prise". and you can't say that it's not important, because today, a large portion of the english speaking world uses spellings from the country you're not from.
    I assert two things:
    1) no native english speaker will know how to say any new word they encounter, regardless of reading ability. it's always a guess. I notice this a lot with children of immigrants that I know who are avid readers. they have a great vocabulary, but they pronounce the words all wrong, because english has pretty much no rules when it comes to reading.
    I mean, how on earth can you teach someone to sound out "choir"? /kwaɪər / is nonsensical to attach tho those 5 letters! if it was at least written "quior", I could understand, but it's not. it comes from a middle english word spelled "quer", but also was influenced by "chorus" and modern french, which spelled it "choeur", but still doesn't make sense.
    2) we don't learn to "read" words. not really. what we learn is to memorize letter combinations and how they're pronounced. we have to memorize every single word in our vocabulary, remember what it is pronounced like, and remember what it means, and any alternate pronunciations, and why it might be pronounced anyway else.
    we might as well look at how the chinese learn to read, because we basically learn the same way. we have a set of arbitrary symbols that have a meaning and pronunciation.
    from some cursory reading, china uses pinyin to teach children to read. pinyin is a latin alphabet representation of the phonetics of the chinese symbols. it's the equivalent of teaching kids IPA first, then memorizing the words based on IPA spellings!
    american english has 24 consonant sounds and 15 vowel sounds.
    we have 5 vowels, which can be combined together in sets of 2 in 20 different permutations. so we have letters enough to represent 25 phonemes.
    we have 21 consonant letters, which is plenty to represent 24 phonemes, especially with our beloved "sh", "ch" and "th" combos. but instead, we have multiple cases where we assign arbitrary phonemes to letters and letter combinations.

  • @BigMobe
    @BigMobe 11 днів тому +2

    As mentioned in the video, it comes down to what someone is interested in. If there isn't something worth reading to that person, then it just becomes a tedious task. If it's not entertaining or applicable to solving a problem, then I've never seen the point.

  • @V4nillakid
    @V4nillakid 6 днів тому

    The library was my favorite part of high school. I think I’ve learned way more from reading classics and history books than I have from anything else.

  • @pepper5128
    @pepper5128 8 днів тому

    You're exactly my kind of guy. I loved hearing what you had to say, and I highly agree with everything you said. Very measured too.

  • @eddie-ni5ox
    @eddie-ni5ox 10 днів тому +1

    Yeah, my nephews read the whole harry potter book at release for a consistent 11hrs and they got headaches, whether its marketing or peer pressure or something external that increases their desire to do it is another thing, but if there are internal or external "pressures" incentives they will read (aside from better grades). Not to preclude, but just like the faux Beatles, their music was written for them by true musical /art geniuses similar to Harry potter, there are concepts and especially the majikal rituals that no "homeless women" without a team of 50+ years academic studies into the occult/related etall will be able to write those rituals into supposed billion dollar teen fantasy novels.

  • @societyofrobots
    @societyofrobots 11 днів тому +2

    The best way to learn is to have fun doing it. If it's boring, you're doing it wrong. Start a personal project with long term goals, make it a hobby, and find books that teach you how to do it.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  10 днів тому +1

      Yup. You make reading into a means to an end in this case as oppose to an end in itself.

  • @firebornliger
    @firebornliger 11 днів тому +5

    ~11:58
    Yeah, honestly, it seems like the job of a public school teacher is to beat the love of learning out of a child. Not educate them.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  11 днів тому +4

      I had an ex who was a teacher. She was everything wrong with the school system. Just in it for the pay check. No regard for the kids. Tragic.

  • @feywinterfox9630
    @feywinterfox9630 11 днів тому +3

    I used to love reading books but I was never one for reading at home because that’s when I was doing most things. No, I used to read all the time riding the bus, one lunch breaks, etc.
    The problem and why I stopped? People, plan and simply people! You can sit on a bus looking at your phone, playing a game, looking out the window, or even digging in your nose and none has anything to say whatsoever. Bust out a book and suddenly everyone and their mom won’t leave you alone! What book are you reading, how is it, what other books have you read, would you have sex with a book if you were a book, they are just asking for a friend?!
    Same problem with reading a book on break or lunch break. People who have never talked to you, even people you don’t like and vice versa see you with a book and they never shut up talking to the point you never get to read said book.
    So I started using the audio books. It took me a second to get use to them but I totally did and loved them. Sadly now I am totally used to them and it’s hard going back to a normal book, worse is people are still just asking bad if you are trying to read a book yet somehow worse! What is it about holding a book in your hands that makes people think, “🤔 You know what? THIS person looks like the perfect person to talk to about any and everything by the looks of that book they are trying to read!”

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  11 днів тому

      Maybe they are starved for socialization and see the book as an in for conversation.
      Or it's subconsciously driven revenge to sabotage you so they don't have to feel bad about witnessing someone else do something they know they ought be doing themselves.

  • @dheeraj_one
    @dheeraj_one 11 днів тому +1

    When I watched the video being reviewed the first time I thought it was an advertisement for the publishing companies to get people to buy more books due to declining sales. Especially text books for students which are fluffed up each year to force people to buy the newer edition. I don't want to go through 200 pages to understand what can be explained in 20. Plus yes reading on the internet is much more fun.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  10 днів тому +1

      There is a racket in the school book space. Every year they introduce minor updates to the text and declare the previous edition obsolete. Last year's textbooks can't be resold with this maneuver.

  • @duckman12569
    @duckman12569 11 днів тому +1

    It's a shame for those individuals not reading.. I don't mean as in they should be shamed by the group, but to miss out on that experience.
    That has to be one of the few things in life worth living for, making headway against the list of books I haven't read yet

  • @nonono7465
    @nonono7465 11 днів тому

    I really enjoyed this!

  • @Sebastian-wm5es
    @Sebastian-wm5es 11 днів тому

    Good one. The one before was excellent, great topic!

  • @The_MaSteR_TRADOOR
    @The_MaSteR_TRADOOR 6 днів тому

    Fantastic

  • @user-ic9vz8sp1x
    @user-ic9vz8sp1x 11 днів тому +3

    Speaking of reading, Marcus can you make a reading list/roadmap for a philosophy layman?

  • @sirguy6678
    @sirguy6678 4 дні тому

    Yes! Great analysis! Finally someone gets it! Reading is boring- unless it appeals to you. When was the last time you read “Moby Dick” for the pure enjoyment of it?

  • @pepper5128
    @pepper5128 8 днів тому +1

    Also, what is up with this obsession with reading a book a week? I have to read 52 books a year to be considered a real reader these days?
    I see this idea cropping up often, where only the volume of your reading within short periods of time is important, content be damned. I think some people would never read a complicated book because it'd mess up their stats, and that's a damn shame.
    I recently encouraged someone I know to push through reading _The Great Gatsby._ She nearly gave up because she wasn't reading it as fast as she reads the usual tropified stuff, but in the end I encouraged her to persevere and I was very glad when she pulled through. Still, I was surprised how easy some people want their reading experience to be.
    I leave you with this Nietzsche quote from _Thus Spake Zarathustra:_
    *"Of all that is written, I love only what a person hath written with his blood. Write with blood, and thou wilt find that blood is spirit.*
    *It is no easy task to understand unfamiliar blood; I hate the reading idlers.*
    *He who knoweth the reader, doeth nothing more for the reader. Another century of readers-and spirit itself will stink.*
    *Every one being allowed to learn to read, ruineth in the long run not only writing but also thinking."*

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  8 днів тому

      I think it's some sort of internet flex to claim to read a book a week.

  • @anon2034
    @anon2034 10 днів тому

    I have an "anti library" per Taleb. I have a lot to learn and little by little I read it.

  • @duckman12569
    @duckman12569 11 днів тому

    Am I the only man who can hear a phone notification and just ignore it?
    Like I get a message, and I swear it seems like it disturbs the guys at work that I don't even look at the phone for like 10 minutes after

  • @elifdurmus8243
    @elifdurmus8243 9 днів тому +1

    I think you are misunderstanding what the reference video means by "reading stamina". I don't understand that as reading fast but being able to sit with a book and read. For a (little) while. Condition and attention span. Marathon rather thna sprint mindset. And that is directly related to our shprtened attention spans in today's attention economy and the digital age (or information age).

    • @pepper5128
      @pepper5128 8 днів тому

      Well, why did the reference video keep suggesting we read a book a week? I thought that was an odd point of focus.

  • @juliziz
    @juliziz 10 днів тому +4

    I listened for 15 minutes still no mention of the obvious root cause:
    Young adult’s attention spans are being warped by early exposure to digital content, like tablets and smartphones, from as young as 5. This impacts brain development and makes it harder for them to focus on reading books, which requires sustained concentration unlike their usual modes of digital consumption. In the US 55% of under 5yr olds regularly use a smartphone, with 42% of kids aged 0-8 owning their own mobile device.

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 10 днів тому +1

    Try this read fast don't try to get meaning just read the words as you normally do as fast as possible I suspect your subconscious is catching it just because you don't consciously think it's in there if your subconscious thinks it's worthwhile I bet you anything noteworthy will be retained you may not have immediate access to it until the subconscious incorporates it into your total psyche but until then I say it's worth a try do it as an experiment with a subject you're not familiar with read a bunch of that way you'll be surprised what you'll start coming up with if it works for you like it does for me good luck

  • @Rig_JW
    @Rig_JW 11 днів тому +1

    Ach... czytanie Krzyżaków w podstawówce to było coś. Prawda jest taka, że prawdopodobnie nie przeczytałem więcej niż 10 całych lektur szkolnych przez mój cały okres edukacji. Były trudne, nudne i długie. Nie pamiętam w moim okresie edukacji żadnego okresu, który były nacelowany na "polubienie czytania".
    Ale właśnie idąc dalej - czytanie dla mnie to powinna być aktywność jakościowa a nie ilościowa. A mamy zatrważającą kulturę "ilości czytania". "Ile książek przeczytał Pan w tym roku?" brzmi pytanie. Odpowiedź to może być: "Jedną. Schopenhauer - w poszukiwaniu mądrości życia, tom 2. Jeden wpis dziennie i kontempluję go".
    Pytający: "no to słabiutko, bo tutaj Pani Zosia to ma aż 30 romansów.". ;) To oczywiście zbędna czepliwość.
    Też z czytaniem mam taki problem, że książki dzisiaj muszą być odpowiednie w długości. Przez ostatnie kilka lat przeczytałem kilka książek nie beletrystycznych, które po prostu były spuchnięte bez końca. Idea zawarta w książce była może na 100 stron a książka miała 350 (bo tak pewnie zalecił wydawca) i po 200 stronach po prostu ją olałem. To było zbędne mielenie słów.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  10 днів тому +1

      Też mi się zdążą że się poddaje na książce co jest bez sensu przedłużona.
      Czyta ma funkcje, i nie jest celem w samym sobie. I kiedy ta funkcja jest poprawnie stosowana to czytanie jest zawsze fajne.

    • @pepper5128
      @pepper5128 8 днів тому

      I completely agree, especially with the middle paragraph.

  • @unknowninfinium4353
    @unknowninfinium4353 10 днів тому +1

    What to read is also a good question. If someone starts with the Greeks then they are bound to enter the same direction as most readers would go.
    So what to read?
    Is there something new?
    Soemthing that is not always followed?
    Sowmthing interesting?
    What to read is a good question. The question is vague but a good one.
    When are you going to lay down the foundations for the metaphysics of MGTOW?

  • @psikeyhackr6914
    @psikeyhackr6914 7 днів тому

    Schools select crappy books. Why not suggest free informative reading to kids?
    *Star Surgeon* by Alan E. Nourse
    *The Cosmic Computer* by H. Beam Piper
    *Black Man's Burden* &
    *Border, Breed nor Birth* by Mack Reynolds
    *Omnilingual* by H Beam Piper
    *Damned If You Don't* by Randall Garrett*
    *The Fourth "R"* by George O. Smith
    *Space Prison* by Tom Godwin
    *Little Fuzzy* by H. Beam Piper
    *The Servant Problem* by Robert F. Young
    *Deathworld* by Harry Harrison
    *The Status Civilization* by Robert Sheckley
    I started reading Science Fiction in 4th grade.
    A Fall of Moondust by Arthur C Clarke
    Read that in 7th grade. Clarke used Plato's Allegory of the Cave to explain the infrared perception of reality.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  7 днів тому

      That's awesome. The only reference to Plato I had by the 7th grade was Bill and Ted's Excellent advanture.

  • @sardonic_smile_8752
    @sardonic_smile_8752 11 днів тому

    "....good"...? 😂
    "...can't even fit in the building." 😂
    ...read well; do well. 😊

  • @bob-z6w6q
    @bob-z6w6q 11 днів тому +2

    This guy is a too annoying to listen to, anyways I just listen to audiobooks because I'm a slow reader. But most adults still haven't read a single book outside of school even including audiobooks.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  11 днів тому

      Ha! Me or the guy in the video I was commenting on?

    • @bob-z6w6q
      @bob-z6w6q 11 днів тому +2

      @@metaphysicofmonkeys The guy you were commenting on, he's a know it all.

  • @user-ic9vz8sp1x
    @user-ic9vz8sp1x 11 днів тому +1

    Well in my case because I have a fried attention spam due to just mindlessly scrolling yt/discord/reddit :/

  • @thedeadsealion
    @thedeadsealion 9 днів тому

    Hey Mulder! Quit interrupting him. The dude's trying to talk.

    • @thedeadsealion
      @thedeadsealion 9 днів тому

      It really just feels like you're piggybacking here.

    • @thedeadsealion
      @thedeadsealion 9 днів тому

      If you wanted to do a reaction video you should do reaction video. Or unboxing video or whatever you cheap little UA-camrs do.
      But looks like this guy made a nice hour-long well put together well thought out and planned video and you're just hitting pause And just having a rambling coke talk discord

    • @pepper5128
      @pepper5128 8 днів тому

      To be honest, the publisher of the original video made quite a few errors in his reasoning. If you want to watch the original, go and do that, I've already watched it some time ago. This video's purpose is to be a rebuttal and a response. It stands on its own.

    • @metaphysicofmonkeys
      @metaphysicofmonkeys  8 днів тому

      The original video was 10 minutes. I spoke for half an hour. My video contains 3 times more content then the original. You must be on the wrong channel.