Great stuff. Old guitarist but new to all this stuff and still trying to make sense of it all. Love your delivery and presence! Half of this went over my head but still great stuff. Sub earned my brother!
Good stuff. Definitely going to try these ideas out. Typically, I use multiband compression on distorted guitars to tame the low end and brighten up the high end if needed.
For some reason, guitars are an area where I always go pretty specific with compression…LA-3A (classic), Renaissance Axe (simple, cheap, awesome) and Pro-C 2 for surgical/limiting/unorthodox (lemme try the “pumping” or “punch” algorithm to see if I can push this sound over the cliff). The LA-3A has a bit of a baked in attack characteristic but with the others, I simply start with too much attack then back it off until I’m getting the picking dynamic I want. Guitars are pretty simple when it comes to compression in my experience. Your ears will tell you what’s right and what’s wrong pretty quickly.
I found out that the Anvil amp sim from STL tones actually works pretty well as a mic preamp for fast strumming acoustic guitar, gives some decent gain and a high end boost without distortion (and it's free)
The mixer/bassist of of mice and men used cla-76 on his guitars tracks. Like 1 db of GR, mostly for the distorsion/tone of an 1176 and it sound great. Like you said, there is no rule !
Do you recommend using the compressor to mix all the guitars into a single general track? Or use it on each guitar track separately? Great video, I'd like to resolve this doubt. 😅
I send my DI through a Spark Micro Boost because clean boost, a bogner harlow v2 for a mild compression, and a fortin zuul noise gate before it touches my axe fx, then I usually just use something like an LA2A, an 1176/Fairchild 670 plugin, a distressor, or even just the Voxengo EBusLim after the axe fx. I love using compressors typically meant for vocals on guitars, I don't know why, but I do.
Solid advice Miami as always. Curious, if you’re doing everything in the box, where would you place your compressor in your chain, if not being used on the bus. Are there reasons why you might compress before or after the amp sim? I found I tend to use cla-3a for peaks after the sim and then was using JW guitar bus glue on the bus but saw Misha use smash&grab on his guitar bus and have been trying that out. As far as the difference in compression/limiting I haven’t noticed a huge difference because I never really did that much compression on the bus to begin with. But I do like having that saturation knob and the eq it has just for quick subtle things.
When you have a sloppy performance thats TOO dynamic when its not supposed to be its cool to throw compressor before the amp imo. It can save a performance that would otherwise not be usable! -Miami
3db of gain reduction corresponds to approximately halving the intensity of the signal having the gain reduction applied to it : ) Generally speaking, you won't want to have more than 3-5db of gain reduction applied to a track, unless it's a peak limiter with a high threshold (in which case your signal gain might be too high fullstop), or you're trying to create an aggressively distorted sound or a separate smash channel/mix
Transition and content always on point my guy! I would love to see you do a more in depth video on doing the jst jw bus guitar glue... every time I use it especially with chug slaying on I can never get the guitars to sit well in the mix. Idk where I'm going wrong. 7 Guitar ltd 607b loaded with bareknuckle polymath pickups
Man this is becoming my favorite channel for mixing tips. Thanks Miami and JST
So glad you feel that way, Ray! And you’re very welcome
-Miami
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Great stuff. Old guitarist but new to all this stuff and still trying to make sense of it all. Love your delivery and presence! Half of this went over my head but still great stuff. Sub earned my brother!
As always dude, as easy as it gets. Simple and totally straight to the stuff
Good stuff. Definitely going to try these ideas out. Typically, I use multiband compression on distorted guitars to tame the low end and brighten up the high end if needed.
For some reason, guitars are an area where I always go pretty specific with compression…LA-3A (classic), Renaissance Axe (simple, cheap, awesome) and Pro-C 2 for surgical/limiting/unorthodox (lemme try the “pumping” or “punch” algorithm to see if I can push this sound over the cliff). The LA-3A has a bit of a baked in attack characteristic but with the others, I simply start with too much attack then back it off until I’m getting the picking dynamic I want. Guitars are pretty simple when it comes to compression in my experience. Your ears will tell you what’s right and what’s wrong pretty quickly.
What’s the 3db rule?
Never compress more than 3db on a guitar
-Miami
Thanks for this. My keyboard player suggested this to us today. Gonna use this on my tracks.
Hopefully the signature series gets m1 native compatibility soon :(
I found out that the Anvil amp sim from STL tones actually works pretty well as a mic preamp for fast strumming acoustic guitar, gives some decent gain and a high end boost without distortion (and it's free)
I havent tried the anvil amp yet, i'll have to give that a shot
-Miami
The mixer/bassist of of mice and men used cla-76 on his guitars tracks. Like 1 db of GR, mostly for the distorsion/tone of an 1176 and it sound great. Like you said, there is no rule !
Yeah, thats def a way to add some distortion to a tone if its lacking it in the source!
-Miami
I think Buster from HLB also uses that
Do you recommend using the compressor to mix all the guitars into a single general track? Or use it on each guitar track separately? Great video, I'd like to resolve this doubt. 😅
Just an fyi, I'm subbed and have the notifications set to ALL but haven't been receiving notifications for your new videos.
what about clipping the guitars? :)
This channel is so informative! Glad I found you guys.
I send my DI through a Spark Micro Boost because clean boost, a bogner harlow v2 for a mild compression, and a fortin zuul noise gate before it touches my axe fx, then I usually just use something like an LA2A, an 1176/Fairchild 670 plugin, a distressor, or even just the Voxengo EBusLim after the axe fx. I love using compressors typically meant for vocals on guitars, I don't know why, but I do.
Have you ever used the bogner blue pedal? Truly out of this world
-Miami
@@joeymusic I sm literally purchasing this right now. Thanks so much Miami.
This information is so nice and direct to the point, thanks a lot
Is it? I don't see the meat and potatoes
My bed time stories are getting better and better.
Great stuff!
miami is rad, i was searching for a vid on this subject and thought it was cool he had a vid about it
Yess thank you for this one brotha!!
Miami you are the transition GOAT :D
Literally working on my guitars right now as I type this and am taking a break. Then I see this. Coincidence? I think not.
Def not! Hope it serves you well!
-Miami
What compressor emulation would you recommend for a lead guitar?
Miami is good at talking, he just got a way with those words
Solid advice Miami as always. Curious, if you’re doing everything in the box, where would you place your compressor in your chain, if not being used on the bus. Are there reasons why you might compress before or after the amp sim?
I found I tend to use cla-3a for peaks after the sim and then was using JW guitar bus glue on the bus but saw Misha use smash&grab on his guitar bus and have been trying that out. As far as the difference in compression/limiting I haven’t noticed a huge difference because I never really did that much compression on the bus to begin with. But I do like having that saturation knob and the eq it has just for quick subtle things.
When you have a sloppy performance thats TOO dynamic when its not supposed to be its cool to throw compressor before the amp imo. It can save a performance that would otherwise not be usable!
-Miami
What is the 3db rule for gain reduction?
3db of gain reduction corresponds to approximately halving the intensity of the signal having the gain reduction applied to it : )
Generally speaking, you won't want to have more than 3-5db of gain reduction applied to a track, unless it's a peak limiter with a high threshold (in which case your signal gain might be too high fullstop), or you're trying to create an aggressively distorted sound or a separate smash channel/mix
What are you using to make the sounds go stereo? Almost all your sounds sound split stereo
The guitars are all doubled
-Miami
Lol how do you get it to sound like you did it twice? I did it twice. Amazing
Ok! I thought you where using a automatic double tracking plug-in
you recorded those dead on perfect
Do bass next baby
Transition and content always on point my guy! I would love to see you do a more in depth video on doing the jst jw bus guitar glue... every time I use it especially with chug slaying on I can never get the guitars to sit well in the mix. Idk where I'm going wrong. 7 Guitar ltd 607b loaded with bareknuckle polymath pickups
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Second and also good video!
Glad you enjoyed this one, James!
-Miami
your transitions are out of control bro
First comment!
Glad to have you here MY FRIEND!
-Miami
this video looks like it was recorded on a potato
The real question is what type of potato?
-Miami