Hi Sam and Sam. Thanks for your conversations. I think it would be helpful to get an actual Oneness Pentecostals scholar to an interview: David Bernard and Marvin Sanguinetti.
I completely agree and hope I didn't across as trying to fill that position. FWIW I've been underwhelmed by Bernard's preaching I've seen online but I know at least one person who goes to his church and my pastor in Akron really liked him.
1:16:30 Technically, ecumenism is defined as "unity in diversity," meaning that the bulwark to this specific affinity doesn't lie in the act of defending denominational beliefs. Instead, it's prioritizes the shared foundation of Christ that all Christians are believed to have in common, which to me actually reflects perfectly your vision for Christian unity. This leads me to wonder, Sam T, what specifically makes you opposed to TLC being viewed as ecumenical? Are you more worried about the spiritual consequences of such unity or the stigma and potential backlash that often accompany wearing that label? Personally, I believe that anyone who identifies as TLC should wear that label with pride, as TLC actually does it very well. I personally view ecumenism as prioritizing personal narratives over unity in truth. Typically, those that were involved in interreligious conflict, have faced rejection (you and I alike), or are battling the pressures of postmodern deconstruction find comfort and security in groups that don't draw dividing lines with doctrine. But in the end, it's an ideological worldview that stems from deep insecurities rather than truth. I'm speaking from personal experience.
One final thought I’ll share, which I believe I may have touched on previously, is this: If you hold onto the hope that Christians can come together despite differing views on the identity of Christ, what fuels that hope for you? From my perspective, it's evident history tells a different story, and I struggle to find substantial support for this idea in scripture-if anything, it suggests the opposite. I genuinely admire the effort to pursue unity and encourage it (with caveats), but I want to caution against setting overly optimistic expectations. In truth, I have my doubts about the feasibility of Christians with varying Christological beliefs existing together in harmony, and if that did happen, then I'd seriously question the sincerity behind that unity.
I think when I hear ecumenism, I associate it with the movement that meant to erase differences between denominations and minimize issues that might divide folks and had a feel of lurking perennialism
Hi Sam and Sam. Thanks for your conversations. I think it would be helpful to get an actual Oneness Pentecostals scholar to an interview: David Bernard and Marvin Sanguinetti.
I completely agree and hope I didn't across as trying to fill that position. FWIW I've been underwhelmed by Bernard's preaching I've seen online but I know at least one person who goes to his church and my pastor in Akron really liked him.
That would be fun.
1:16:30 Technically, ecumenism is defined as "unity in diversity," meaning that the bulwark to this specific affinity doesn't lie in the act of defending denominational beliefs. Instead, it's prioritizes the shared foundation of Christ that all Christians are believed to have in common, which to me actually reflects perfectly your vision for Christian unity. This leads me to wonder, Sam T, what specifically makes you opposed to TLC being viewed as ecumenical? Are you more worried about the spiritual consequences of such unity or the stigma and potential backlash that often accompany wearing that label? Personally, I believe that anyone who identifies as TLC should wear that label with pride, as TLC actually does it very well.
I personally view ecumenism as prioritizing personal narratives over unity in truth. Typically, those that were involved in interreligious conflict, have faced rejection (you and I alike), or are battling the pressures of postmodern deconstruction find comfort and security in groups that don't draw dividing lines with doctrine. But in the end, it's an ideological worldview that stems from deep insecurities rather than truth. I'm speaking from personal experience.
One final thought I’ll share, which I believe I may have touched on previously, is this: If you hold onto the hope that Christians can come together despite differing views on the identity of Christ, what fuels that hope for you? From my perspective, it's evident history tells a different story, and I struggle to find substantial support for this idea in scripture-if anything, it suggests the opposite. I genuinely admire the effort to pursue unity and encourage it (with caveats), but I want to caution against setting overly optimistic expectations. In truth, I have my doubts about the feasibility of Christians with varying Christological beliefs existing together in harmony, and if that did happen, then I'd seriously question the sincerity behind that unity.
@@EmJay2022 Hi Em, thanks for watching the video.
@@FromWhomAllBlessingsFlow My pleasure. Sam's videos always get my attention.
I think when I hear ecumenism, I associate it with the movement that meant to erase differences between denominations and minimize issues that might divide folks and had a feel of lurking perennialism
@@transfigured3673 Eventually but not initially.
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