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SHEA IS A VERY FUNGI THIS EPISODE | The Worst Possible Commander Show #81

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 168

  • @emptynest4103
    @emptynest4103 9 місяців тому +46

    Inti only lets you play cards until your next ends step. Exiling cards during your turn only allows you to cast them during that turn. However exiling them during your opponents turns will allow you to have them available for your next turn.

    • @hyfynorris
      @hyfynorris 9 місяців тому +4

      I looked if anyone comented that before me, thank you for also noticing it and pointing it out! Found that pretty strange, as it is a common card wording.

    • @emptynest4103
      @emptynest4103 9 місяців тому +5

      @@hyfynorris there are so many almost the same but not quit equal wordings with impulse draw that honestly i get it. Between until you next turn, until your next end step, until the end of your next turn, until the next endstep... I also get confused sometimes.

    • @shauntoochaos235
      @shauntoochaos235 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah they made "impulse" draw a thing a never figured out what it is so you have to read exactly what the card says cause it could be worded 5+ different ways. It's incredibly annoying when playing a deck and you still have to carefully read every card despite playing it many times.

    • @hyfynorris
      @hyfynorris 9 місяців тому

      @@emptynest4103 Yeah, for sure... that kinda stuff never goes through me, but only after much trial and error (mainly error) of playing with cards like obeka or purphoros, lmao.

  • @brandoncrowe1223
    @brandoncrowe1223 9 місяців тому +48

    Due to the oopsy of two of the commanders mechanics, we need a rematch!

  • @Jjdude101
    @Jjdude101 9 місяців тому +15

    “You guys deal with the problem you made.” My favorite part haha

  • @johnrobinson2504
    @johnrobinson2504 9 місяців тому +14

    I can't believe Ben didn't have a single thing is 45-or-so card hand where he could kill his commander, replay it with all those treasures, and then play EVERY CREATURE IN HIS HAND. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN INSANE

    • @odytoboman
      @odytoboman 9 місяців тому +10

      Unfortunately, his treasures had summoning sickness when they became 7/7 dinosaurs.

  • @reachingvalhalla5096
    @reachingvalhalla5096 9 місяців тому +68

    Mycotyrant would be way to op, if tokens counted for descend. You could always sacrifice all of them to get them back at the end step. Still a fun to watch game though

    • @diegoortizduhart2477
      @diegoortizduhart2477 9 місяців тому +11

      Yeah, descent checks specifically for permanent cards and tokens are not cards

    • @AspKIO
      @AspKIO 9 місяців тому +2

      Tokens dosn't count for Descend. It's not a cards.

  • @sethvoNhaNdorf
    @sethvoNhaNdorf 9 місяців тому +10

    A rematch is definitely called for considering the misplays... let's see what these decks do when played correctly!

  • @nobelphoenix
    @nobelphoenix 9 місяців тому +8

    I know EDH is a very complicated format with lots of moving parts but I feel you guys should be a bit more careful with regards to mechanics and card texts so that it'd be much more informative for and helpful to newer players. Descend doesn't trigger off of tokens and inti only exiles until end of its controller's next end step not the end step of the next turn. (those were the mistakes until the point I've watched so far at 23:40)
    as always, thanks for the content and I love this team!

    • @tennesseefeetmonk752
      @tennesseefeetmonk752 8 місяців тому

      Came for this comment. So frustrating to see so many games likely going different ways because they don't read the cards.

  • @pasqualemarchese6530
    @pasqualemarchese6530 9 місяців тому +28

    The red commander allow u to play the card until your next endstep not your next turn

    • @pasqualemarchese6530
      @pasqualemarchese6530 9 місяців тому +13

      And i will add that token doesn’t count for the descend trigger

    • @dr4acula
      @dr4acula 9 місяців тому +2

      Very impactful Missplay

  • @stevenlannon1020
    @stevenlannon1020 9 місяців тому +6

    Tokens are NOT cards, therefore they do not count as permanent CARDS hitting the graveyard and thus do not trigger the descend mechanic. Or anything to do with descending for that matter.

  • @BsRascaL
    @BsRascaL 9 місяців тому +43

    A permanent card is an artifact, battle, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card. Tokens are not cards, and while tokens are put into the graveyard before ceasing to exist, that action doesn't count as a player having descended.. :(

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 9 місяців тому +7

      Easiest way to remember is permanent cards are the cards in your deck only. Not anything created by a card.

    • @daanvanderlinden2484
      @daanvanderlinden2484 9 місяців тому +4

      A token is a permanent. It goes to the gy but doesnt show up thete so it doesnt count

    • @somekindadragon3414
      @somekindadragon3414 8 місяців тому

      A token is a permanent as such things count only to the battlefield, not the graveyard.

    • @liketofish4383
      @liketofish4383 7 місяців тому +4

      It says permanent card. Tokens are not cards in the stack of 100. Descend only counts cards not tokens. Yes tokens are permanents and they do hit the graveyard but they are not cards.

  • @minutemadeinc
    @minutemadeinc 9 місяців тому +13

    Descend does not count tokens! 34:12

    • @Jikado42
      @Jikado42 9 місяців тому +1

      Second episode in a row they've got this wrong, surprised none of them have caught it.

    • @Cafushinow
      @Cafushinow 9 місяців тому

      It enters the graveyard, then immediately disappears next time state-based actions are checked. So, yes it counts

    • @steelstiletto
      @steelstiletto 9 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Cafushinowtokens are not cards, so no, they do not trigger Descend

    • @erikstokely4734
      @erikstokely4734 9 місяців тому

      It's funny because this is the only time she has counted the tokens makes you wonder

  • @lucascoffey8883
    @lucascoffey8883 9 місяців тому +5

    The smirk that slowly appears on CGB’s face when he starts to combo is priceless every time it happens

  • @NEALMateo
    @NEALMateo 4 місяці тому +1

    Shea and Craterhoof is like peanut butter and jelly. They just go together lol

  • @thomashalter8
    @thomashalter8 9 місяців тому +4

    😅 the Crew punching Blake like he was a Mario coin box😅😅😅

  • @spencerss4908
    @spencerss4908 9 місяців тому +15

    Unexpected surprise game!(hope this was intentional)
    Very enjoyable as always

  • @Tclark6199
    @Tclark6199 9 місяців тому +7

    Ben dying to unblockable Laelia after drawing 43 cards is why I run obscuring haze in every green deck I own now that it's super cheap 😭😭
    I was cheering for you buddy

  • @consolescrub4031
    @consolescrub4031 9 місяців тому +1

    I haven't seen anyone guessing so I thought I would give it a go using context clues (some of these answers are intended in humour). A. is Ben I think because it's the same dice as the one on the Hornet queen (bit of a stretch but it's something). B. is Blake because I think he's the most likely to draw an insect with a gun on account of all the one damage ping decks he has played. I thought about saying CGB is C. and Shae is D. for alphabetical consistency but then I saw C. had the Deathtouch keyword uncapitalised and I knew no one who goes by CGB and considers themself the one in best of one would forget a capitalisation so my final answer is, from A-D, Ben, Blake, Shea and CGB.
    Feel free to let me know if you have other theories or you comments people agree with my logic and thank you very much to HolyMTG for gifting me a sub to Shae's Twitch channel a while ago. Sorry I didn't make much use of it but it was appreciated. (I'm part of the replay squad when I can because I live in the wrong part of the world to catch them live so I can't really send messages there). Yes, I am absolutely using my comment to recruit someone so the message will hopefully get to Holy. Consider it thematically Orzhov. Otherwise GG guys, thanks for the game, it was fun to watch and I think Ben wins the intro pose competition for this week.

  • @reachingvalhalla5096
    @reachingvalhalla5096 9 місяців тому +2

    Bens pose on 6:06 is absolutely sending me xD

  • @reachingvalhalla5096
    @reachingvalhalla5096 9 місяців тому +7

    Wrong Upload date? The title seems like a filler and it has only been 3 days since the last upload :D

  • @TedMattos
    @TedMattos 9 місяців тому +6

    I've missed Blake. Good to see him back! #TeamBlenke :)

  • @christiancornier9357
    @christiancornier9357 9 місяців тому +1

    I come for the commander; I stay for Blake's pregame death glare at CGB

  • @robcrgr5233
    @robcrgr5233 9 місяців тому +5

    Shea's facial expressions are GOLD. #BestCommanderShow

  • @samhorrell96
    @samhorrell96 9 місяців тому +1

    43:47 The second when CGB's heart rips in half.

  • @puppiesgoesrawr
    @puppiesgoesrawr 9 місяців тому +1

    Ayy a new episode!! You guys are my favorite commander channel

  • @noakiyousfi5395
    @noakiyousfi5395 9 місяців тому +4

    decent does not trigger on tokens

  • @lenny-822
    @lenny-822 9 місяців тому +3

    Ben/Blake/CGB have replaced Timmy/Johnny/Spike in my mind.

  • @Grimtass
    @Grimtass 9 місяців тому

    Is it the worst possible commander show? Maybe. Is it the funniest? Absolutely! Amazing job guys!

  • @thevoid6359
    @thevoid6359 6 місяців тому +1

    Just wondering what the deck lists were for these decks?

  • @eventuelleon748
    @eventuelleon748 9 місяців тому

    yoo that Tribute was popping of short. Idk why i find this so funny :D 9:56

  • @lusquinhas5368
    @lusquinhas5368 9 місяців тому +1

    laelia triggers when one or more cards are exiled from your graveyard or from your library, so when discovering, you only get a single +1/+1 counter on her, because all the cards are exiled at the same time

  • @lenardEkko
    @lenardEkko 9 місяців тому +1

    now imagine a universe where Ben is less timmy and puts a fog in his deck...

  • @emomisfitpanda7179
    @emomisfitpanda7179 9 місяців тому +1

    When will the deck lists be released??

  • @insainraven9875
    @insainraven9875 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m so here for this, an oopsie upload is still a great game of commander

  • @matthewbryan6774
    @matthewbryan6774 9 місяців тому +1

    Second match where tokens got counted for descend eek. That’d be busted. Don’t work like that

  • @ryanperske812
    @ryanperske812 9 місяців тому

    Just wondering why the green deck didn't save like a beast within or a fight card for instant speed removal?

  • @valt3rnative
    @valt3rnative 8 місяців тому

    How did Laelia get double strike? And would love to see the decklists : )

  • @jonmartin299
    @jonmartin299 9 місяців тому

    Use a phyrexian metamorph in a blue green commander deck to clone the Craterhoof.
    Timing is key.
    That'll help you Blake

  • @donteatpaint
    @donteatpaint 9 місяців тому +1

    Between Intl and Descend misinterpretations, consider a re-do.

  • @christiancornier9357
    @christiancornier9357 9 місяців тому

    How was Blake planning on getting that combo with ashnod's altar, fireweaver, and animation module going with Saheeli? Sounds really cool but I can't piece it together

  • @MrRandsauce
    @MrRandsauce 9 місяців тому

    Well played Shay, nice job not falling prey to CGB's coercion to use spore frog ahead of time.

  • @victoraraujo3315
    @victoraraujo3315 9 місяців тому +1

    I refuse to believe ben couldn't handle CGB's attack after drawing 42 cards and having 42 mana to spend...

    • @shadow1ization
      @shadow1ization 9 місяців тому

      He didn't have a reliquary tower or a counter it seems.

    • @dr4acula
      @dr4acula 9 місяців тому +2

      You need to Tap treasures to sac and get the Mana. Because the 7/7 treasures have summoning sickness, he Had only the gold Token Mana (No need to Tap gold). Ben knew it and made the best play with exploration and Triple mana.

    • @victoraraujo3315
      @victoraraujo3315 9 місяців тому

      @@dr4acula hmm makes sense

  • @jessianderson3959
    @jessianderson3959 7 місяців тому

    So that isn't how mycotyrant works, and your list doesn't really work as a result (except the combo).
    I built a list that does go balistic with tokens, and also includes some lovely spice like Triumph of the Hordes. Opponents also LOVE seeing mesmeric orb lmao

  • @wordsonpaper3869
    @wordsonpaper3869 9 місяців тому

    Omg!!! Ben with 42 7/7 Dino, treasures and then draws that many cards…. But forgot to get a counter. Haha great game this was a fun one to watch.

  • @Brownieman32
    @Brownieman32 9 місяців тому

    can the treasures you make that are 7/7's even be tapped ? I thought they would have summoning sickness

    • @theArcosa
      @theArcosa 9 місяців тому

      Treasures can’t be tapped and sacrificed for mana, but the Gold from Curse of Opulence do work.

  • @davidgibson1551
    @davidgibson1551 9 місяців тому +1

    C is best bug obv. Love the content!!

  • @jaibell4835
    @jaibell4835 9 місяців тому

    Amazing game, thank you for the content. Wonder what was Ben's 7 after drawing half his deck 🤔

  • @TheRhysticStudy
    @TheRhysticStudy 8 місяців тому

    Shea repping the fungus well!

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 9 місяців тому

    Actually really excited to see cgb play Inti as I'm actively brewing an underworld breach combo variant for cedh so I'm gonna be cribbing ideas haha

  • @Say_Tin
    @Say_Tin 9 місяців тому +1

    Doesn't the dinosaur gold have summoning sickness at 38:34

    • @besenkehricht5427
      @besenkehricht5427 9 місяців тому +3

      Gold doesn't need to be tapped to sacrifice and make mana with it.
      That's the difference to treasures.

    • @Say_Tin
      @Say_Tin 9 місяців тому +2

      @@besenkehricht5427 oh swick i never knew that

  • @Barturito
    @Barturito 8 місяців тому +1

    Where are the deck lists???

  • @IGNEALart
    @IGNEALart 9 місяців тому

    That fungus was humungous

  • @Comrad_covid
    @Comrad_covid 9 місяців тому

    Ghalta once it gets on the battlefield it’s the type of card you don’t wanna kill because in green they have more than enough mana to do it again

  • @jilaxwest9770
    @jilaxwest9770 9 місяців тому +1

    what a game Ben, :D loving it

  • @brendanhammond3059
    @brendanhammond3059 9 місяців тому

    I think the best insect token was A. Cause it was the only one who’s text was in the right places

  • @tcmatias
    @tcmatias 9 місяців тому

    Nice win at the end! 😁

  • @brendanrogers9830
    @brendanrogers9830 9 місяців тому

    Shae’s face at 19:38 says it all lol

  • @dannil9878
    @dannil9878 9 місяців тому

    Is LC of Ixalan worth buying - any takes?

  • @dave_eagle2787
    @dave_eagle2787 9 місяців тому

    41:21 CGB was supposed to attack with everything cause Spectacular Showdown goads all creatures

    • @bejoe35
      @bejoe35 9 місяців тому

      He goaded after his own combat, and goad only lasts until your next turn, so by his next turn they are no longer goaded

  • @RobbieB2606
    @RobbieB2606 9 місяців тому

    Insect C. is the clearly superior token drawing 😂

  • @blakemtg47
    @blakemtg47 9 місяців тому

    This is every Timmy’s dream 36:26

  • @Deer_God
    @Deer_God 9 місяців тому +1

    Descent is permanent *card* Tokens are not cards, they are tokens.

  • @christophervaughn1989
    @christophervaughn1989 9 місяців тому

    I'm surprised someone didn't pick the curse for card of the game. It gave out so much gold to everyone

  • @ThePirateCommander
    @ThePirateCommander 9 місяців тому

    They should errata Spore Frog to be a Frog Fungus

  • @SingleLupus
    @SingleLupus 9 місяців тому

    Thus ends the threat of OvertGoRed. But... for how long?

  • @ella6547
    @ella6547 9 місяців тому

    When he said he'd use a drake for the swansong, I hoped Blake would go 'so you're saying that's a Swan Drake'? *snicker*.

  • @edkolbe1850
    @edkolbe1850 9 місяців тому

    Remember to always pack your skullcracks.

  • @gustavoportugal3763
    @gustavoportugal3763 9 місяців тому

    lovethe Shea decks, all of them S2

  • @pvolt7
    @pvolt7 9 місяців тому

    incredible game! this is why we play commander

  • @mitchp3243
    @mitchp3243 9 місяців тому

    Shea-terhoof behemoth.... classic!

  • @travistaylor6195
    @travistaylor6195 9 місяців тому

    After watching a bunch of these. I build decks just like shae! I’d be curious who everyone feels they build decks like and why!

  • @heracles000
    @heracles000 9 місяців тому

    20:21 Laelia only gets 1 counter becouse saids "ewhenever one or more cards are put into exile" so it counts effects that put them in exile not cards puts in exile

    • @teatree7334
      @teatree7334 9 місяців тому

      Unintuitively, that wording does actually count each card revealed, as it technically does so individually. It's a weird ruling, but they did actually play it correctly.

  • @karadras-ccs
    @karadras-ccs 9 місяців тому

    get me some mono green target removal

  • @veeclash4157
    @veeclash4157 9 місяців тому +2

    That was one of the best technical takedown wins executed by Shea at the end of a Commander game that I've ever seen! She tapped her mana exactly correctly and made all the right plays to deal exact damage to take down CGB! Bravo! What a surgical strike, worthy of the champion!

  • @strubbarz
    @strubbarz 9 місяців тому

    Shea always has the best basic lands.

  • @KenLeonhardt
    @KenLeonhardt 9 місяців тому

    LOVED THIS EPISODE

  • @benmetzger6528
    @benmetzger6528 9 місяців тому

    C. Beedrill is my final answer

  • @xsangyhix
    @xsangyhix 3 місяці тому

    Where decklists?

  • @davidpeacock1903
    @davidpeacock1903 9 місяців тому

    Shea does it again! Great pod/great game

  • @nicholascoleman2480
    @nicholascoleman2480 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice win shea!

  • @blakemtg47
    @blakemtg47 9 місяців тому

    Fun fact inti is the Inca sun god

  • @77bleachfan
    @77bleachfan 9 місяців тому

    What a game! Nicely done shea

  • @edmundtetch3357
    @edmundtetch3357 9 місяців тому

    Sen-eh-shall. Also Blake rocking that Marshall Sutcliffe hairline.

  • @janiskeller5483
    @janiskeller5483 9 місяців тому

    Can you do an episode where someone plays Vito, Fanatic of Aclazotz? I think that he is a realy good commander and would like to see him in action

  • @Guevon_Pajaro
    @Guevon_Pajaro 9 місяців тому

    Omg, I think I triggered ptsd going to look closer at the mycotyrant - - scary fungi, reminding me of The Last of Us. Yep... Great show, wow crazy game! 🫨

  • @TheGogmagogProject
    @TheGogmagogProject 9 місяців тому +1

    b is the best insect

  • @stelygomez
    @stelygomez 9 місяців тому +1

    Im laughing at all these comments cause yall got so many things wrong😂😭

  • @chubibi06
    @chubibi06 9 місяців тому

    Spore frog is so busted with Muldrotha ! My friends hate it

  • @lilmaeifert
    @lilmaeifert 9 місяців тому

    Hoooooooooooo this one is a banger

  • @josephbilling3886
    @josephbilling3886 9 місяців тому

    covert go mono red but blake go mono forehead

    • @BlakeMTG
      @BlakeMTG 9 місяців тому

      It’s a five head get it right

  • @pierremorelleta9949
    @pierremorelleta9949 9 місяців тому

    What a bonker game honestly. Mycotyrant is such a great card honestly :) I am in love with it

    • @RM_3D
      @RM_3D 9 місяців тому +1

      it's a lot better when you break its rules xD

  • @thomaspadilla6965
    @thomaspadilla6965 9 місяців тому

    I'm vibing with Insect token C

  • @kainne2
    @kainne2 9 місяців тому

    Congrats on your awesome win Shea!

  • @dangerfieldsosa3285
    @dangerfieldsosa3285 9 місяців тому

    holy impactful misplays batman

  • @joschajustinski14
    @joschajustinski14 9 місяців тому +1

    Sidenote: Laelia only gets 1 counter for the explore trigger, she says "whenever one or more cards are put into exile" Fun episode anyways (;

    • @spark1128
      @spark1128 9 місяців тому +1

      This is a weird interaction but Cascade and explore exile cards and then check if the mana cost is lesser so because they are exiled Indio duality Laelia does trigger multiple times.

    • @joschajustinski14
      @joschajustinski14 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@spark1128is that so? I thought the whole action of the card counts as one, didnt know that, thanks!

    • @PvtSkittles656
      @PvtSkittles656 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, Found this out recently myself from the Deck Gavin made for shuffle up and play with The War Doctor and Ryan Sinclair. He noted the interaction there specifically.

    • @scrollreader7355
      @scrollreader7355 9 місяців тому

      @@spark1128 Also not meaning to be pedantic or anything but just in case a new player is looking at these comments and possibly getting confused, the mechanic in question is actually called Discover, Explore is the one where you look at your top card.

    • @spark1128
      @spark1128 9 місяців тому

      @@scrollreader7355 Wooops

  • @maidenless_tarnished
    @maidenless_tarnished 9 місяців тому

    What a game!

  • @arielaziza3842
    @arielaziza3842 9 місяців тому

    If the treasures are dinosaurs, don’t they have summoning sickness? If so, was Ben able to sac it to play something?

    • @caseyfurey1348
      @caseyfurey1348 9 місяців тому +2

      The one he sacrificed was the gold token from curse of opulence, which doesn’t need to tap to sac itself!

    • @veeclash4157
      @veeclash4157 9 місяців тому +2

      @@caseyfurey1348 that's pretty sweet! So gold is actually better than treasure! Interesting to know!

  • @Roberto-kx5rr
    @Roberto-kx5rr 9 місяців тому

    great title

  • @gfxmrsaltman
    @gfxmrsaltman 9 місяців тому

    Wow, what a game

  • @mattflwr
    @mattflwr 9 місяців тому

    Laelia shouldn't have been so big, since "The last ability only triggers once for each time cards are put into exile from your library and/or graveyard, no matter how many cards were exiled at the same time.", as it reads from the ruling. So whenever you exile one OR MORE cards, she gets only one +1/+1, even if you exile 30 cards at once.

    • @joerybka
      @joerybka 9 місяців тому

      I think the main pump on her was the Discover, which is an "until", and her last ruling clarifies that an until is separate exiles for the trigger. Not sure how many there were from multi-exiles, I would need to rewatch to count.

  • @platerra07
    @platerra07 9 місяців тому

    Feel like they should have let Ben win out of pure fun!