Arrogant Christian Just Doesn't Get It..
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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He is laughing hysterically because he’s got no arguments left. He’s going insane
An insincere Christian. A reflection of dying faith due to falsehood.
Your religion is dying thousand I iran are leaving the Islam you carnt even provide any hard real evidence of Muhammad being alive in mecca all you have is evidence three hundred years later 8th and 9th century thats not proff so unless you can give me any real proff not what you assume from your 1924 quran of which there is twenty all there all different I suggest you should think before you comment.
If I can’t explain quantum physics to you does that me that quantum physics is a dying science ?
Quantum physics will always be quantum physics regardless of my inability to articulate the concepts.
I put it to you, that as a Muslim you will never be able to give an objective truthful reason why you are a Muslim or why Islam is the truth.
@@Tomf-tz4pd Lying and not knowing are two VERY different things.
@@lennixsingh626
Wilful ignorance is more aligned to lying than simply not knowing.
The commenter as a Muslim is wilfully ignorant by the statement he or she made about the Christian faith.
@@Tomf-tz4pd They are speaking the truth. We all know your a Christian in disguise trying to play the victim whilst being a bystander that attacks others.
Imran and Abbas from EFDawah kicked him out yesterday. He was aggressive and did not let anyone speak .
The same argument can be used against christianity, there's many things that exist in Greek and Egyptian myth that are also found in Christian myth. Don't throw rocks in a glass house
The flood story is from Sumerian text of the Epic of Gilgamesh
By Prima's logic,
The Old Testament plagirize from the Sumerian/Babylonians stories since both contain the word "Flood" and the OT came later....
Did you know that the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians both have flood stories. You can see their cuneiforms recordings of something they call “ the flood “ at the British Museum in London.
One can say the Bible copied these stories. Or we can accept that as Noah was the new ancestor of all civilisations, the traditions will still be passed on somehow to their descendants. Therefore, as Adam, Seth and all their children after him believed that God will send His Son to save them … I won’t be surprised that many ancient civilisations will have such messiah stories
But Muhammad is different, he claims to come from the line of the prophets and apostles but literally flips the script.. hence why he is false
@@Tomf-tz4pd uh... not sure what point you're making, since the Prima guy whole thesis is "If X word appears in scripture A and B, and scripture A came before scripture B, then scripture B MUST have plagiarized from scripture A."
regarding your last paragraph,
what script? The scriptures that cannot be verified to be preserved that the Christians till now are arguing which are canon?
At least we Muslims can agree how many chapters are in our scripture.
Also, since God told Muhammad SAW what actually happened, and God is the best historian, I'm not really surprised that the Islamic narrative contradicts fallible human records of "history".
eg. your scripture can't decide whether Judas killed himself by hanging or died via accidental tripping headlong and bursting his stomach.
@@ibrahimx28
Judas died .. two perspectives from two different people .. nevertheless they both conclude he died. Done
First through Muhammad spoke to God and not Satan
The prophetic script which all the authors agree on … Muhammad comes along and tries to rewrite everything
Preservation by Islamic standards. Any historian that tries to criticise the Quran you and your religious community will character Assassinate him.
Nevertheless just proof that Muhammad didn’t speak to Satan ???
Let's apply the same standard he is using to the bible. The Nordic mythology uses the trumpet for the day of resurrection. Therefore, paul have plagiarized the Nordic mythology. 🤫
Did you know that the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians both have flood stories. You can see their cuneiforms recordings of something they call “ the flood “ at the British Museum in London.
One can say the Bible copied these stories. Or we can accept that as Noah was the new ancestor of all civilisations, the traditions will still be passed on somehow to their descendants. Therefore, as Adam, Seth and all their children after him believed that God will send His Son to save them … I won’t be surprised that many ancient civilisations will have such a story
So traditions show be the same. But Muhammad is different he claims to be from the line of prophets but yet flies the script with the prophet narratives including stories that are not canon hence why he is a fraud.
@@Tomf-tz4pd so what's your point?
@@jawedkroos
I think it is quite clear
@@Tomf-tz4pd it's just enforcing the point i am trying to make.
So if you were trying to somehow prove me wrong. I think you failed miserably
@@jawedkroos
I’ve had Muslims and in-Muslims write to me 8 months and 5 months later after reading my posts. I love how 1000s will read my messages floating in cyberspace. If you can’t comprehend the principles behind such a statement then others will.
Your position can even make someone today who writes a story about a British boy wizard on a scar on his head think that JK Rowling won’t be able to sue him.
Nevertheless, if that person loves their livelihood they won’t even dare try and get royalties from such a story.
When debating in a civilized manner, and the one who is laughing is really not contributing or serious enough, is waste of time. It just shows this kind of person is spreading mischief. With respect. 💚🌍💚🇿🇦💚🇵🇸💚
He can't understand the quran but 3 in 1 completely make sense to him
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It’s all game when you believe in magic flying horses and resurrection and all that jazz. Just accept the force is truth. May the force be with you.
did you mean "fair game"? ya j3w@@Very-old-man
I mean you pron believe in single cell/ randomness or nothingness create something. Its more absurd. @@Very-old-man
@matsa3545 what every verse your talking about read it properly and u might understand..
Prima Scriptura's heart has been sealed, but pray to Allah he is guided. He was in brother Cowboy's stream a couple days ag and spouting same nonsense.
Allah does not change a people, until they change themselves.
no im not gonna pray for him😅😅
astaghfirullah
Big Love too you Hamza here from 🇹🇳🇩🇰
Remember kids, alcohol and drugs are not good for you. You won't survive a debate like this if you use them.
That prima. Is just trolling. He don't know anything thats why he's laughing away
He probably doesn't realise that there is 'The End of Time (Kiamat)', 'The Day of Resurrection' and 'The Day of Judgement'. What differs between the three are the events that will happen.
He had confusion on the three days 😮 well that guy is Christian 😅
Hamaza please lower guest's loud microphones in the future
I wish I could understand his argument, but he clearly lacks the education required to put forth a clear and concise statement. WOW he’s going to be so embarrassed when he watches this someday.
The Quran says there is only one God, so does the Bible, is this plagiarism? I just can't stop laughing at this guy!
building a solid argument is their biggest problem
Go watch Sam Shamoun.
Revelation is generally accredited to John - the author of the fourth canonical Gospel too. The guy had trouble articulating his argument(s), but, I think Sharif had worked out what he was trying to say by the end; however, he outstayed his welcome by then...
Loads of trumpets in old testament. Its part of it all. .
Zephaniah 1:2,14-16
“I will sweep away everything
from the face of the earth,”
declares the Lord.
The great day of the Lord is near-
near and coming quickly.
The cry on the day of the Lord is bitter;
the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry.
That day will be a day of wrath-
a day of distress and anguish,
a day of trouble and ruin,
a day of darkness and gloom,
a day of clouds and blackness-
a day of **trumpet** and battle cry
against the fortified cities
and against the corner towers.
Isaiah 27:1,12-13 In that day,
the Lord will punish with his sword-
His fierce, great and powerful sword...
In that day the Lord will thresh from the flowing Euphrates to the Wadi of Egypt, and you, Israel, will be gathered up one by one.
And in that day a great trumpet will sound. Those who were perishing in Assyria and those who were exiled in Egypt will come and worship the Lord on the holy mountain in Jerusalem.
Isaiah 18:3-5
All you people of the world,
you who live on the earth,
when a banner is raised on the mountains,
you will see it,
and when a trumpet sounds,
you will hear it.
This is what the Lord says to me:
“I will remain quiet and will look on from my dwelling place,
like shimmering heat in the sunshine,
like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest.”
For, before the harvest, when the blossom is gone
and the flower becomes a ripening grape,
he will cut off the shoots with pruning knives,
and cut down and take away the spreading branches.
Wait wasn't Jesus supposed to be loving, kid, peaceful and so on? Here it looks like he his going to butcher all of us even the babies wtf......
Dude write the most unhinged fanfiction
Prima is always likes this. His arguments are always nonsense.
All love and respect from Egypt يا رجاله😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
"Why are you laughing?Is that funny?"
in the old testament talks about the trumpet
To every one claiming plagiarism, just because B came after A doesn’t mean B is from A
Leave it at that
JazakAllah'u khairan brothers
Paul plagiarised the old testament:
Zephaniah 1:14-16
Near is the great day of the Lord, near and coming very quickly; listen, the day of the Lord! In it the warrior cries out bitterly. A day of wrath is that day, a day of trouble and distress, a day of destruction and desolation, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick darkness, a day of trumpet and battle cry against the fortified cities and the high corner towers.”
Jesus did the same, he quoted from the Hebrew scripture over and over during the sermon in the mount jesus always said it is written and your word is truth john 17.17
@@metapol118 I got no issue with that, but the dude claimed Islam plagiarised from Paul and Paul was the only one to speak of blowing the trumpet, so he was wrong.
Alhamdulillah
❤❤❤❤
The most powerful weapon to win a prolonged warfare is dua/dhikr La Hawla Wala Quwata Illa Billah. Recite it at least 100 times a day. It is also one of the Jannah's portals - Tirmidhi.
Fight and dhikr. Dhikr and fight. Don't just do one of them, so you don't get lame.
Free Palestine.
That christian is just another troll
Why he doesn't laugh at his own god that apparently made both the sun & moon but doesn't know one reflects the others light I don't know.
I think the guy was having some smoking while trying to debate 😂
I am one with the force and the force is with me. Y’all need to accept the force as truth. May the force be with you.
I just love you all my brothers
اني احبكم في الله
hysterical majnoun
Magic roundabout
Assalamou3alaykoum Professor @hamza i am in london :)
If Hashim say that at the day of Judgment Allah He's gonna kill His angels,it really doesn't make sense to me because Angelic beings are spirits they don't die just like satan, in that case i disagree with him
I'm more shocked to see all these people come as so illiterate
How can Mr.Hamza answer,if the question doesn't exist
What a weak argument!
How come I cannot find hamzas den on his channel? I've missed the last couple streams and wanna go back and watch them. I can't seem to find any recent streams. Any ideas?
You have to be a member to see the arena uploads.
The Arena is only available after it airs for the weekend and then it becomes members only. So if you don't catch it live, you can catch it on the Saturday and Sunday of the weekend it aired.
@@WelcomeToTheRezvolution thank you brother
Where is the full debate?
Still need an email back when you’ve got time Hamza; also I never got my translated Quran from the link posted the other day- is there any way to check its progress?
The funny thing is that the Christians talk about logic 😜
Can he just GET TO THE POINTTTTTT
We get told Jesus was happy to DIE for our SINS
The following Bible verse EXPOSES this huge LIE ➜ Jesus Cried out in a Loud voice, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" ( Matthew 27 : 46 )
We can understand Jesus was crying because he was going through pain, but what can NEVER be explained is ➜ If JESUS was on a MISSION to die for our SINS, why did he QUESTION God ❓ 🤦♂
That verse you quoted its a prophecy from psalm he fulfilled. Do that matter for you or you just have no idea about it?
How does psalm chang the FACT ???
احلي مسا عليكو يا شباب الله ينور😂❤
Really, where does it use it? Please be very specific
It is true that there are some similar parallels between the Qur’an and the Bible but this is not sufficient to accuse Muhummad (pbuh) of compiling or copying from the Bible. The same logic would then also be applicable to teachings of Christianity and Judaism and thus one could wrongly claim that Jesus (pbuh) was not a genuine Prophet (God forbid) and that he simply copied from the Old Testament.
The similarities between the two signify a common source that is one true God and the continuation of the basic message of monotheism and not that the later prophets have plagiarised from the previous prophets.
If you glance through the Bible and the Qur’an you may find several points which appear to be exactly the same in both of them, but when you analyse them closely, you realise that there is a difference of ‘chalk and cheese’ between them. Only based on historical details it is difficult for someone who is neither conversant with Christianity or Islam to come to a firm decision as to which of the scriptures is true; however if you verify the relevant passages of both the scriptures against scientific knowledge, you will yourself realize the truth.
Creation of the Universe in Six Days
As per the Bible, in the first book of Genesis in Chapter One, the universe was created in six days and each day is defined as a twenty-four hours period. Even though the Qur’an mentions that the universe was created in six ‘Ayyaams’, ‘Ayyaam’ is the plural of years; this word has two meanings: firstly, it means a standard twenty-four hours period i.e. a day, and secondly, it also means stage, period or epoch which is a very long period of time.
When the Qur’an mentions that the universe was created in six ‘Ayyaams’, it refers to the creation of the heavens and the earth in six long periods or epochs; scientists have no objection to this statement. The creation of the universe has taken billions of years, which proves false or contradicts the concept of the Bible which states that the creation of the Universe took six days of twenty-four hour durations each.
Sun Created After the Day
The Bible says in chapter 1, verses 3-5, of Genesis that the phenomenon of day and night was created on the first day of creation of the Universe by God. The light circulating in the universe is the result of a complex reaction in the stars; these stars were created according to the Bible (Genesis chapter 1 verse 14 to 19) on the fourth day. It is illogical to mention the result that is the light (the phenomenon of day and night) was created on the first day of Creation when the cause or source of the light was created three days later. Moreover the existence of evening and morning as elements of a single day is only conceivable after the creation of the earth and its rotation around the sun. In contrast with the contents of the Bible on this issue, the Qur’an does not give any unscientific sequence of Creation. Hence it is absolutely absurd to say that Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) copied the passages pertaining to the creation of the universe from the Bible but missed out this illogical and fantastic sequence of the Bible.
Creation of the Sun, The Earth and the Moon
According to the Bible, Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verses 9 to 13, the earth was created on the third day, and as per verses 14 to 19, the sun and the moon were created on the fourth day. The earth and the moon emanated, as we know, from their original star, the Sun. Hence to place the creation of the sun and the moon after the creation of the earth is contrary to the established idea about the formation of the solar system.
Vegetation Created on the third day and Sun on the fourth day
According to the Bible, Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verses 11-13, vegetation was created on the third day along with seed-bearing grasses, plants and trees; and further on as per verses 14-19, the sun was created on the fourth day. How is it scientifically possible for the vegetation to have appeared without the presence of the sun, as has been stated in the Bible?
If Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) was indeed the author of the Qur’an and had copied its contents from the Bible, how did he manage to avoid the factual errors that the Bible contains? The Qur’an does not contain any statements which are incompatible with scientific facts.
The Sun and the Moon both Emit light
According to the Bible both the sun and the moon emit their own light. In the Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verse 16 says, "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night".
Science tells us today that the moon does not have its own light. This confirms the Qur’anic concept that the light of the moon is a reflected light. To think that 1400 years ago, Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) corrected these scientific errors in the Bible and then copied such corrected passages in the Qur’an is to think of something impossible.
What is all this monologue about?
@@jared2244 irritated to see your biblical story being crushed?!?
@@user-ci4vp1gb6n You talked about similar parallel between the bible and the Koran... You talked about coming from a common source. And so forth and so on.
What is there to irritate anybody..?
You should try doing something about the already tarnish image the followers of Islam continue to create of their religion.
Every other day there is some terrorist attack somewhere in the world.
At least it would be more rewarding to you than comparing stories. What is your advantage here anyway?
To me its just a wasted effort
The six days are not literal in the bible either,
@@metapol118 So bible speaking about creation of universe here,says... ‘Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, in six days and talks about an evening and a morning, referring to a 24 - hour day!!!
So your bible says you are lying and got caught in lying
My point is . . . . . . . I have 3 question, and my first question is. . . . . . Let me go to my point. Lol
Us democrats govhas No honor, no faith, no humanity
That dude is another want to be a church representative in his bush land plot !
Is there anyway to contact him ?? Anyone please??
Contact, who?
@@homtanks7259 Hamzaden.. this person where does he live i mean which city and country?
@@hamzarashid4520he lives in London and sometimes goes to Speaker Corner. He does very long (3-5 hours) weekly streams like this one (The Arena). To catch him live on steam, just follow his channel and log in to join the stream. You can speak to him only on the Arena stream because he does some other solo streams as well. I also recommend the Muslim Lantern. He's very knowledgeable.
Amazing how he turned 8nto an Atheist to show Qur'an plagiarized fro Bible.
Arabs couldn’t speak koneaic Greek though
Moses wrote. God speaking.
Let us us make man in
Our own image. Plural .. jesus preexisting his human birth as the word of God . Speaking with his holy spirit the farther. Let us in our image . Repeat in gen ch 3 . Now they have become like us jesus said to his spirit. Jesus was preexisting his human birth here .
Clearly he's arrogant
See Hamza reading some about the topic😂😂😂
It's clearly plagiarized and the guy wants to know what's the doctrine and theology about the trumpet?! That's it😂
We christians know why the Bible talks about trumpets it's a very sensitive topic
And the funniest thing is that muslims always jump in the Bible to skip hard questions like this one
"hard questions"
Really?! You can't be this stupid to think this was a "hard question", I mean you really you can't.....
Abu Hamza hook eye 👁 strikes again?
What's the damn point omg 😫
This is the problem you need to stop saying him and he when it comes to the Lord almighty Allah say Allah say the Lord almighty say the fashioner say the sustainer say the creator I don't care who you are you guys need to get this through your head stop saying him and he say Allah the Lord almighty the creator the sustainer the fashioner
Hamza🌸please allow me to say Imran Khan is the most patriotic leader/murshad of 90% Pakistanis. Please VOTE ON FEBRUARY 8th to raise your voice to FREE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM and TO FREE IMRAN KHAN and PTI candidates.Thank you
U don't have any logic,just because quran came after,what u mean? But why u don't used the old model Motorola,or old model of phone now,why u used the last model of iPhone or promax,latest design, because its much more better than the old one.
So nowadays if I give my grandson an old Nokia,he will chuck it in my face and will say grandad,r u insane,this phone is not using anymore.
Get me the latest phone plz.
Hope u understand ,due to u say quran came after the bible.
He is laughing, because he don't have anything good to talk.
He is a paulianity,not Christianity .
Hamza you are forbidden from taking part in any more of my Zoom court sessions you're language was absolutely atrocious.
Go outside
It's a 🤖
Can anyone tell me if Allah is the 1 true God and if he created everything why isn't the whole world muslim ?
He gave us choice and free will. If we were simply made to believe, then it's meaningless. If there's a button that you can press to make a woman fall in love with you regardless of what she wants, would you do it? If you wouldn't accept it, why would Allah accept meaningless love, faith, and obedience?
@Mr.Anders0n_ why did it take so long for Allah to decide when to start Islam?
@@Do-the-right-thing Islam in Arabic means total submission to God, and a Muslim is the one who submits. So Islam started with Adam because he submitted his will to God and taught his children to do the same as he was also a messenger of God to his progeny. All the true prophets/messengers since then preached Islam. Actually, if you read the Bible, you'll see that Jesus (pbuh) worshipped God like a Muslim (he prostrated on his arms and knees and put his face on the floor) and called people to worship only "the Father". His teachings were Islamic but they got corrupted and it wasn't intended for all humanity anyways.
@Mr.Anders0n_ are you saying Jesus was sent by Allah and not the Christian god ?
@@Do-the-right-thing Allah is the same God. You can't be a Muslim and not believe in Jesus and past messengers (Abraham, Noah, Moses, etc.). In fact, Arab Christians say Allah. God in Biblical Aramaic is Alāhā. You obviously know very little about Islam, why are you so dismissive of something you're ignorant about?
The has a point 😂😂😂
Poor brother sharif he listened to the whole this and didn't understand a single word, hashim and hamza have to spend almost as much time explaining to sharif as they do answering the guest
the christian dude makes silly argument lol. by his logic the old testament also plagiarized the previous scripture then
Yeah the Christian is deluded
Bro ive lost alot for Hamza after godlogic destroyed him…
JESUS IS GOD ❤
@Judge-Jeffrey-Middleton
Regarding: "Jesus is God": Jesus said it clearly: "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." (John 17:3). The verse is proof that there is Only One True God (Allah) and Jesus (Isa) is His slave and messenger (abduhu wa rasuluhu).
The Bible came 1500 years after the Torah did their god forget his Name in their New Pagan Covenant Testament??? 🤦🏽😂
If the Quran plagiarized the unholy book, it would’ve also copied the mistakes in said unholy book. The bible got multiple things wrong that the Quran got right. For example, the development of the embryo, the shape of the earth, the water cycle, last but not least the type of ruler at the time of Joseph vs Moses. When the Quran was revealed no one knew how to read hieroglyphics and no one knew what type of ruler was at the time of Joseph until the Rosetta Stone was discovered in the 18th century.
Also if the Quran plagiarize the unholy book, why did it not plagiarize the pornography in the unholy book?
Anyone who believes the Quran copied the bible is a mindless minion.
The term “Bible” came after the prophet Muhammad even called the Ingil by it’s actual term😂 not “Bible”