@@exequielbreton4393 It's hard to say considering "healthy Itachi" just doesn't really exist. Powerwise I do think he could beat Tobirama, but in-character I just think Tobirama is way too experienced and familiar with fighting Uchihas to fall for most of Itachi's hax. I think it'd be a battle of whomever lands the first hit, which would just be Tobirama more times then not, though I do acknowledge that Itachi could always manage to squeeze out a tough W.
Dygo will never let him lived down his death scene. Tobirama and the team was completely exhausted and even if Hiruzen who was likely in his prime wouldn’t have lived had he gone back as the distraction. At you admit it’s bias thing lol.
The problem with "full power" Itachi is that he isn't a character you can powerscale - he's a walking plot device to save characters from otherwise impossible situations. In other words, he's not just strong, he's straight up broken. He's the OP character in a game that breaks the balance, only this time there are no devs to patch him. You can't have any weaknesses if they're not "programmed" into the series. With other characters, you eventually see their weaknesses/limits. Itachi never got that far, so he will forever remain "invincible".
💯 Exactly! Which is why I always feel like 5 Kage Summit Sasuke is about as fair reference point for gage when talking about how long he can last in a fight
Full power itachi is not all that when compared to the top tiers and gods. He doesn’t have the chakra or abilities to compare, everyone else can spam their big jutsus meanwhile itachi would fizzle out half way through
@@TheLightningBlade Yeah, after all you have to have some frame of reference since we don't know how much stamina/chakra he had in his prime, and on top of that we never saw any version of Itachi go all out, he's always either nerfed (illness, Edo) or suppressing himself (vs Sasuke, vs KCM Naruto, vs Kabuto). But then for the physical scaling itself you have to give him his Edo feats, since he would be unquantifiably stronger when alive and healthy.
Itachi and Minato were meant to be unscaled. They acted as the benchmarks for the protagonist to Surpass. And when it comes to both of their stories specifically, it’s about their genius and how no other was like them. The only version of Itachi people can realistically scale is the one that purposefully held back, almost blind and near his deathbed from terminal illness yet he still outlasted Sasuke after fighting Orochimaru as well in chakra and ran out the moment he died meaning his chakra reserves are higher than some believe and it’s only his stamina from illness that was the issue. As seen with Edo that was only a glimpse of what Healthy Itachi is capable of. And for those talking about speed, he was able to rival his older best friend who was also talented and feared for their speed like Minato. Which shows when he dodged KCM Naruto and Bee simultaneously. A healthy Itachi would be much faster and his reserves would be intact for those that don’t know he used chakra and heavy medication to subdue the illness.
@@TheLightningBladeAbout Minato vs Itachi, the only advantage Minato has over Itachi is stamina, but that's irrelevant, because Itachi doesn't waste chakra, he has feats that I've already mentioned, in excess of reaction speed and body speed, Minato isn't faster than Shisui in body speed, the kunai would never work to get close, because Itachi is a specialist (fighting Sasuke), and a superior genius 1 in 100, in comparison with Minato 1 in 10, Itachi genjutsu is like 8 gates taijutsu of level of power in comparison with Madara, Morte doesn't try to use genjutsu on his opponents, not even those who had knowledge have ever escaped even from his basic genjutsu or even with the teachings of Jiraiya Sensei of Minato, by your analogy Jiraiya also defeats Itachi, since he looked into his eyes with conviction.. About Itachi; What people don't understand is that opponents without knowledge and external powers all lose with the exception of Kaguya and Shisui, until the end of Shippuden. Among the 3 ninja arts: ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu, genjutsu has always been the most dangerous art, because until Madara Rikudo's final move to dominate the world, it was the "infinite genjutsu Tsukuyomi". Itachi literally says to Kakashi, that "only a true heir of the Sharigan with Mangekyou would have a chance against him." At the age of 7, already reasoning as a Hokage, she knew how to infuse chakra without ever having learned, for example; When he saved his mother from a giant rock during the attack of the Nine Tails, he resisted the death genjutsu. At 8 years old without Sharingan (which the jonins on his team could not resist), at age 10 he was already stronger than all the jonins, including Kakashi. Itachi trained on equal terms with Shisui, the fastest ninja in terms of body speed, where his speed was even confused with teleportation (remarkable when his movement was not noticed even by Sharingan users). Itachi must have even copied his techniques, as he copied Kisame's, Water Style, because he trained so much with them. He mastered water, wind and fire in his short life. His potential was always astronomical. After his death, Sasuke tried the medicine his brother took to stay alive, and could not even stand, see, or breathe properly. Even when he was close to his deathbed, he was far superior to Sasuke. His Amaterasu was considered the "most powerful ninjutsu" by Zetsu. Negro, who witnessed the entire history of the ninja world, even by Kabuto Senim Perfect all puffed up, considered him his greatest weapon, even having Madara in his arsenal, before he wanted to undo Kabuto's control, where he had to be nerfed at age 13 (after massacre), because almost no character would survive his techniques, especially Amaterasu, which not even Obito could avoid, as well as Tsukuyomi. After Itachi revealed his legendary weapons, he was considered by Black Zetsu as "invincible" because his weapons had the best attack and best defense in existence. Itachi did not have brute strength, but everything was of the best quality, everything insta-kill if used to its maximum potential. He was also the most intelligent and brilliant person in the entire Naruto universe, with intelligence almost at the maximum level, in the 9 aspects of intelligence, with legendary knowledge about the Uchiras, about Senim mode. Recognized by Hashirama "a shinobi better than me", Danzo (one every hundred years), [Ninja Academy]; there has never been one like him in history, even after Minato's feats. Going so far as to claim that it was the weakness of any jutsu, his chakra control was so absurd that he could do more than double, with half the chakra, evident in the fight against Sasuke Snorted. He also had resistance, as he partially tanked Sasuke's Karin, including having completely destroyed the floor, and his clothes. However, the Uchiha massacre at the age of 13 made him sick in mind (depression) and body (mysterious illness), which discouraged him from trying to evolve or heal himself. He only focused on planning his death from that day on, as he lost the love for his life, until he finally died at the age of 21, where he never showed his maximum potential, only 50% when in Edo Tensei, even so he showed perfect Naruto MK1/Kabuto Senim level taijutsu, otherwise, if his growth continued exponentially; there would be no limits. For example; Some cells (Hashirama) would not even lose to Madara's absurd resistance, Itachi with Hashirama's cells, in addition to becoming ultra powerful, would not have any illness or eye wear, if the narrative were not unfavorable to him, for not being decent straight from the Otsutsukis, he could awaken even the Rinnegan, then he would solo even the aliens... that's why he didn't evolve any further after the age of 13. Because he would surpass Madara, in his strongest form. It is worth remembering that Sasuke's Rinnegan are Itachi's eyes. If Rinnegan were a possibility, he could have a unique ability even better than Sasuke, because his genjutsu already transcends reality, in his novel "Itachi Shinden" it was revealed that his Tsukuyomi breaks the barrier between genjutsu/reality and can literally kill/live entire lives/who knows, even train... awaken mangeko in others... He can also seal his powers, in his hundreds of crows that he can summon, making it impossible to fight with activated vision against him, (Kabuto Senim Perfect knew). He was the greatest prodigy, his qi will probably never be surpassed, but he did not live long enough to reach his peak, but the possibilities were only in the air... like eternal + cells + Senim...
First off, my scaling for healthy Itachi is as follows: His Edo version kept up with KCM Naruto, and if Naruto wasn't going all out neither was Itachi since he didn't even have the MS active. However, that Naruto had already sent his clones to the different battlefronts, so just from this we can't say Itachi is definitely above KCM Naruto. But then if we analyze his fight with Kabuto, where he was suppressed because he couldn't simply kill or seal Kabuto away, and was asking Sasuke to be careful as well, we see that Itachi is able to move at the same pace as Kabuto, and only gets hit from a surprise attack and then he lets Kabuto stab him with Sasuke's sword in order to set up Izanami. Just as Madara said after being revived that he had become used to fight carelessly because he was an Edo Tensei, Itachi made Kabuto stab him multiple times in order to set up the repeating pattern for Izanami because he could afford to take damage. Knowing this, it's disingenuous to say Sage Kabuto can simply blitz Edo Itachi. But we also can't say neither Kabuto nor Itachi were on the level of KCM2. Given that the Edo Tensei can't bring a person back at 100%, we know Itachi was nerfed to an unquantifiable degree. Therefore, a conservative estimate for his prime self, not yet afflicted by his illness, would put him a little bit above his Edo version, probably above KCM Naruto and below KCM2, and either equal to or slightly above Sage Kabuto. As for Minato, Tobirama himself states he's better at "Shunshin" than him. Normally that would mean Body Flicker, but apparently Tobirama uses the term inconsistenly, sometimes referring to FTG as "Shunshin", so that's contentious. But regardless, he's faster at one of them. And Minato is more proficient with FTG. So I think it's safe to place him above Tobirama. I've seen people argue that KCM Minato is relative to SM KCM2 Naruto, which is not true for many reasons. Depending on how you interpret the Raikage's statement, KCM Naruto is relative in speed to either Jounin or Hokage Minato. In the interest of not downplaying him, let's go with the argument that "the yellow flash" refers to Jounin Minato and the Raikage never saw what Hokage Minato was capable of. Plus, there's the comparison with Kakashi mistaking Naruto for Minato right after he unlocks KCM2. With that said I think it's fair to scale Hokage Minato to around KCM2 Naruto. Now it depends on how much you think Itachi was nerfed as an Edo. Was he relative to KCM2 Naruto before the illness? If he was, then he's relative to Minato and definitely wins because he has a better arsenal. I personally don't think prime Itachi would have been that strong/fast. If Minato has the edge in speed, he can win. He doesn't blitz because Itachi is still very fast and has MS precog. If Minato is faster, then Itachi has to compensate by using his MS abilities, which would gradually drain his chakra and his eyesight. Minato's win cons are outlasting Itachi or marking him. Itachi's win cons are the Totsuka Blade, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu (only with strategy, as Minato is fast enough to dodge it normally), and maybe comboing those with Izanagi so he can catch Minato off guard (though Minato is a sensory type). Minato is faster, Itachi has more durability, AP and hax. Both are geniuses, so even if Itachi is a bit smarter it would be hard to outsmart Minato. This is a very interesting fight, but I have to give the win to Minato because I believe he's faster than Itachi. It's definitely not 10/10 though. IDK what number to give, but Itachi can win high diff. Tobirama is weaker than Minato. His Water Style would be able to counter Itachi's Fire Style but they don't matter against the MS techniques. Tobirama would have to rely on FTG. As with Minato, he pretty much wins if he can place a marking on Itachi. But by definition Itachi would have less of a hard time fighting Tobirama than fighting Minato. But he's not too far below him, and if we want to be fair all we know is that Minato > Tobirama. And his Edo version was reacting to Juubito, therefore he must be above Rinnegan Obito, which I believe is relative to Itachi and SM Kabuto. Hiruzen we have to definte which version we're talking about. For prime Hiruzen, we have to give him his Edo Tensei feats. He doesn't perform much worse than Tobirama, and he's also able to react to Juubito and understand the nature of the Truth Seeking Orbs at the same time. Maybe this version loses to Itachi, but not his alive, young self. His prime has to be stronger than his Edo version, though still inferior to Minato. Prime Hiruzen is either slightly above or below Tobirama. However, he doesn't have FTG and he never showed any hax abilities. He still outscales Itachi but he has a very bad match-up in terms of arsenal. Either once can win mid-hard diff. As for Old Man Hiruzen, he gets stomped by even sick Itachi. Tsunade is the only one that scales below Itachi, so she definitively loses. Oh, yeah, we also know that Itachi is stronger than Kakuzu, so this means he's relative to Hashirama. Given his superior intellect + one-shot abilities, I'd say Itachi wins low-mid diff.
So in summary my ranking would be: Hashirama > Minato > Tobirama > Prime Hiruzen > Healthy Itachi > Edo Itachi > Byakugou Tsunade > Sick Itachi > Old Man Hiruzen > Base Tsunade.
@@giannixx minato is overrated. He is strong mainly because of ftg but ftg depends on kunai so he is easily countered by itachi. Also minato's ftg is faster than tobirama but his movements are not. The most obvious is when minato encountered the two brothers AB: when minato's attack had not yet reached A, B had already pushed A, when minato used level 2 ftg to attack B, he was counterattacked so to be exact his movements were not faster than B. As for kcm minato, look at the moment when ems sasuke saved naruto from obito six paths, while minato didn't even have any action
If anyone thinks Itachi can defeat Hokage Kakashi that means you think he can fight Kashin Koji and by extension defeat V2 Karma Jigen who stomped Adult 6 Paths Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke.
@@BLACKVeil47 no . he killed 10 percent jigen. which means kakashi is relative to supressed six paths sage mode kcm2 naruto while an adult. which is far above the likes of kaguya
@@RA1JIN07Nope, Base Jigen kicked Base Naruto with ease and then Naruto used KCM to kick Base Jigen back. Base Naruto himself is stronger than whole shippuden
Every Itachi video would be so different if they hadn’t given almost all of his abilities to sasuke after his death. Imagine if we didn’t know how amaterasu worked or the sussano. Also we have this assumption that fights wouldn’t end in a genjutsu 1 shot because the series kinda ignores genjutsu after a certain point but realistically he would probably 1 shot at least 1 of these hokage with tsukuyomi.
@@jackloughridge7617 They should have given Sasuke his own unique skill set instead of nerfing Itachi’s through Sasuke. Black Flames that could eat other flames and is as hot as the surface of the sun yet somehow burns slowly but Itachi was able to pierce a supposedly impenetrable toad belly with it. It spawns near instantly yet somehow characters who are not sensory types could avoid it. Itachi’s abilities as a whole seems more potent than Sasuke’s who could use his abilities more fluently. At least in the 5 Kage Summit where Sasuke was noted to still be inferior to Itachi outside of being able to construct Amaterasu which is a MS ability.
Another thing to note about Itachi’s fight with Sasuke is that despite holding back he had to give the illusion that he wasn’t, meaning it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume that Itachi was fighting uncharacteristically. Keep in mind that nobody would know Itachi’s body more than himself, he realistically isn’t going to be throwing out techniques and praying they’ll land or using them unreasonably like he was during that fight. He’ll try to end the fight as quickly and effectively as possible. He won’t use very taxing techniques unless he’s 100% confident that he’ll land them. This means that even if the fight is drawn out, assuming he’s not killed he’ll still manage for a long while whilst trying to get around his opponent’s defenses because he knows once his illness kicks in his performance will drop. There’s zero incentive to use up chakra where it isn’t needed. So sure Itachi may not have the biggest reserves but unless you’re on the higher tier of characters and can force him to use up his chakra, he’ll be fine.
The Superiority of Itachi Uchiha Over Hashirama Senju in a Theoretical Battle Abstract This dissertation explores the reasons why Itachi Uchiha, a key figure from the Naruto universe, could be theoretically argued to surpass Hashirama Senju in a head-to-head confrontation. Through a multidimensional analysis that incorporates Itachi’s superior mastery of Genjutsu, his possession of the Mangekyō Sharingan and its advanced techniques, and his strategic genius, this thesis posits that Itachi could effectively counter Hashirama’s Senju abilities despite the latter's reputation as the "God of Shinobi." By examining their respective abilities in the context of their personalities, battle strategies, and inherent weaknesses, I argue that Itachi’s tactical precision and psychological advantage position him to emerge victorious against Hashirama in most hypothetical encounters. Introduction Itachi Uchiha and Hashirama Senju are often considered two of the most powerful shinobi in the history of the Naruto world. Hashirama, the First Hokage and founder of Konohagakure, is renowned for his Mokuton (Wood Release) and Senjutsu (Sage Mode), while Itachi, a prodigy of the Uchiha clan, wields the Mangekyō Sharingan and possesses unparalleled mastery of Genjutsu. However, this thesis seeks to demonstrate that, despite Hashirama's immense chakra reserves, combat abilities, and his legendary status, Itachi Uchiha's unique skillset enables him to defeat Hashirama in a one-on-one battle. Chapter 1: Genjutsu vs. Mokuton - A Battle of Specializations 1.1 Itachi's Genjutsu Mastery Itachi Uchiha’s command over Genjutsu, specifically through his Mangekyō Sharingan, provides him with a key advantage in combat. His signature technique, Tsukuyomi, allows him to manipulate his opponent’s perception of time and space within an instant, incapacitating them before they can effectively react. The fundamental nature of Genjutsu, which targets the opponent’s mind and nervous system, renders it particularly effective against opponents unaccustomed to countering such abilities. Hashirama’s raw power in Mokuton techniques, such as the Shinsu Senju (True Several Thousand Hands), cannot be denied. However, these techniques are primarily large-scale, physical attacks that Itachi’s Genjutsu bypasses entirely. By incapacitating Hashirama’s consciousness, Itachi can nullify the brute strength and complexity of his techniques before they are even deployed. 1.2 The Limitations of Mokuton Against Illusionary Techniques Hashirama’s Wood Release is rooted in his mastery over natural energy and his Sage Mode, but it remains susceptible to mental manipulation. Genjutsu does not engage with physical combat; rather, it works on the mental and sensory systems, forcing the target into hallucinations and altered realities. Even with his exceptional chakra reserves, Hashirama would need to detect and break out of Genjutsu before mounting an effective counterattack. This would require Hashirama to have not only foresight but also significant proficiency in counter-Genjutsu techniques, which is not well-documented in the series. Chapter 2: Mangekyō Sharingan - The Ultimate Counter to Hashirama's Senjutsu 2.1 Amaterasu vs. Hashirama’s Wood Constructs Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan gives him access to Amaterasu, the undying black flames that burn until their target is reduced to ash. Hashirama’s large-scale wood constructs, while durable, are organic and thus susceptible to Amaterasu’s flames. Hashirama’s Wood Release, though powerful, is unable to withstand attacks that incinerate matter on a cellular level, as Amaterasu's flames are said to be inextinguishable. Given the rapid deployment and targeting of Amaterasu, Itachi can burn through Hashirama’s defenses with precision, bypassing the large-scale fortifications that Hashirama typically relies on. This removes Hashirama's ability to engage in prolonged, defensive battles, turning the tide in Itachi’s favor. 2.2 Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade - Itachi’s Perfect Offense and Defense Itachi wields two unique spiritual weapons: the Yata Mirror and the Totsuka Blade. The Yata Mirror is described as an impenetrable shield, capable of nullifying all ninjutsu-based attacks by altering its chakra properties. This makes it nearly impossible for Hashirama’s wood-based and elemental attacks to reach Itachi, as the Yata Mirror would counter or absorb them. The Totsuka Blade, a spiritual sword that seals anything it pierces into an eternal genjutsu, provides Itachi with a decisive offensive option. Itachi can seal Hashirama permanently, bypassing his ability to regenerate or recover. While Hashirama has considerable healing capabilities due to his mastery of Senjutsu, the Totsuka Blade's sealing effect would prevent him from using those regenerative powers, effectively ending the battle upon contact. Chapter 3: Tactical and Psychological Superiority 3.1 Itachi’s Strategic Genius One of Itachi’s defining traits is his intelligence and ability to plan several steps ahead of his opponents. In his battle with Sasuke, Itachi demonstrated remarkable foresight, manipulating events to achieve his intended outcomes even after his death. His aptitude for deception and manipulation in combat scenarios allows him to turn the tide of battle against stronger foes by exploiting their weaknesses. While Hashirama is no slouch in the strategy department, his combat style leans more toward overwhelming force and adaptation through sheer power. Itachi, on the other hand, prefers calculated, precise strikes that exploit his opponent's lack of preparation or gaps in their defenses. In a battle against Hashirama, this would allow Itachi to control the pacing of the encounter, weakening Hashirama’s ability to fully utilize his own techniques. 3.2 Psychological Warfare and Hashirama’s Naivety Itachi's psychological warfare is also a major factor that would tilt the battle in his favor. Itachi often uses fear, intimidation, and mental manipulation to weaken his opponents long before the actual fight begins. Hashirama, while immensely powerful, has a more straightforward and idealistic approach to battle. His tendency to seek peaceful resolutions and avoid unnecessary violence might render him vulnerable to Itachi’s more ruthless tactics. Furthermore, Itachi’s history of making morally complex decisions, such as the slaughter of the Uchiha clan, indicates his willingness to do whatever is necessary to achieve his goal, even if it requires sacrifice or deception. Chapter 4: Limitations and Rebuttals 4.1 Hashirama’s Chakra Reserves and Regeneration Critics may argue that Hashirama’s seemingly limitless chakra reserves and his ability to heal from nearly any injury make him a near-immortal figure. However, Itachi’s tactics are designed to bypass such physical endurance. Tsukuyomi, for example, can incapacitate Hashirama in a matter of moments, irrespective of how much chakra he possesses. The Totsuka Blade similarly bypasses physical durability, sealing Hashirama rather than wounding him conventionally. While Hashirama’s stamina and ability to fight prolonged battles are superior, Itachi’s techniques are designed for quick, decisive engagements, which negate the advantage of drawn-out combat. 4.2 Itachi’s Health and Limitations Itachi’s chronic illness and limited chakra reserves are notable weaknesses in a prolonged battle. However, Itachi’s combat philosophy revolves around efficiency and precision, meaning that he is unlikely to engage Hashirama in an extended battle where these weaknesses could be fully exploited. Itachi’s use of the Izanami technique also suggests that he has counters prepared even for situations where he might be at a disadvantage due to health or chakra limitations. Conclusion In conclusion, while Hashirama Senju is undoubtedly one of the most powerful shinobi in the Naruto universe, the specific abilities of Itachi Uchiha-namely his mastery of Genjutsu, the powers granted by his Mangekyō Sharingan, and his strategic brilliance-give him the edge in a direct confrontation. Hashirama’s immense physical and chakra-based abilities are formidable, but they are ill-suited to counter Itachi’s mental and spiritual techniques, which bypass brute force in favor of precision and psychological dominance. Through this analysis, it becomes clear that Itachi Uchiha, in a one-on-one battle, has the tools necessary to defeat the "God of Shinobi."
Hypothetically - Summons like Gama Bunta sorry if I misspelled it, are basically useless in ninja battles and only really shine when their opponents have summons to.. narratively they could perform a lot of help in situations, but normally only called for cool battles and I'm happy about that.
I think the existence of Minato automatically makes people down play Tobirama. Yes Minato is faster but this notion that Tobirama can’t possible mark most of the people y’all put him up against is crazy to me. Minato being faster doesn’t mean that Tobirama can’t make anybody Minato could. Saying he could lose to a base sharing genjustu like huh?😭.
In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat (his Taijutsu it's exceptional and underrated), is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
People heavily underrate Hokage Kakashi just because he isn't shown on screen much, and hasn't he still not done anything in the manga? I don't keep up with it, but I know that technically speaking, all of Kakashi's feats in the Boruto anime are non-canon. But still, if you ever imply Kakashi is say... Minato-tier people get all offended like it's preposterous. I don't know, people act like Kakashi without his Sharingan is disabled or something lmao
I don't agree with the idea that itachi could "possibly" deduce how to counter FTG from seeing it once. I know he did this with chibaku tensei but FTG was a jutsu created by the second to counter the sharingan, itachi wouldn't have enough time to figure out its weakness because it happens too fast. Also another bit of information on tobirama that you got wrong is he didn't lose to ginkaku and kinkaku, the kinkaku force was a squadron of entirely S-rank shinobi (akatsuki like ninja) who he fought off to a standstill until eventually going down to them. Ginkaku and kinkaku weren't apart of the ninja in that squad it was named kinkaku for unknown reasons
You're giving him flak for making a collab video? If Dygo appears in other channels, he can get more potential subscribers. If he gets more subscribers, he gets more views (on average), watchtime, and engagement, with that he gets more money, and with that he can better support his channel, which includes being able to afford to produce more rewrite episodes (which perform worse than his regular videdos).
Do people allways forget that tobirama killed Izuna (Madaras brother) who had ms and was equal with Madara round that time. And if given time he can use even edo tensei.
@@derekseago9647that makes no damn sense because it takes a certain about to chraka to perform high level seals let me give you an example Yamato was born with wood release the strongest of the keke genki and his power was created from hashirama cells but he was no where near Hashirama level of power/charka to perform the feats he did because he didn’t have that monstrous chraka but on the other hand Minato at the age of 14 was able to complete stop Kurama from killing kushina might I add that he was also fatigued from his training and was also being physically assaulted with a hole in his chest and kurama sensed so much chraka in him that he compared it to hashirama from the ancient days so these trolls really needs to put some respect on minatos name because he’s tied with Hashirama
@@MrJAMESTAKER your example doesnt prove your point tho. yes it takes a certain amount of chakra which is still very impressive however there is no way to prove how much chakra it takes. its not like it works the same as reaper death seal which is a 1 to 1 ratio . and if we go off of feats and statements hashirama scales higher strength: hashirama combat and travel speed: minato stamina: hashirama endurance: hashirama durability : hashirama ap: hashirama dc: hashirama ninjutsu: hashirama genjutsu: hashirama taijutsu: hashirama kenjutsu: minato fuinjutsu: minato kinjutsu: minato sensory: both iq: minato biq: minato experience: hashirama hax: minato hashirama mid - high diffs . however i do think minato has win cons .
@@TheLightningBlade no nigga that makes no sense your sealing ability is based of your charka level dude you need high levels of charka to perform high levels of sealing and Kuramas wasn’t based it response on sealing he was talking about power
im one of the people that use novels feats seeing as they are cannon. I see potential win cons for itachi against kakashi however there are a lot of thing to take account for. like the fact the tsukuyomi requires eye contact and it requires itachi to have superior chakra control than his victim. kakashi has far superior chakra control so there would be no way for itachi to control the flow of chakra inside kakashis brain. even jiraya states this twice. all if itachis other attack are to slow seeing as kakashi is faster than base koji who is faster than delta who is relative to supressed kcm 2 six paths naruto . who is obviously faster than base naruto who is faster than or relative to kaguya. fire mist jutsu has country level ap/ dc and overcame hagoromos chakra so i dont really see itachis surviving this . kakashis can also just outlast. i think he takes it 8 or 9 times out of 10.
That’s why I wanted to emphasize that I’d use the Kakashi for each side of the argument for people who DONT consider the novels canon and those that DO. Just to try and make everyone happy I guess 🤷🏻♂️😅
ik chat gpt isnt completely reliable however i still explained my logic to it to see if i was potentially right or wrong and this is what it said “You’re absolutely right in emphasizing that **Tsukuyomi's unique abilities**-such as time manipulation and intense reality distortion-only apply once the target is already inside the genjutsu. Therefore, before that happens, the process of **initiating the genjutsu** still follows the basic rule Jiraiya described: the user must insert their chakra into the victim's chakra network, which depends on the user’s chakra control being superior to the target's. If Kakashi has superior chakra control, then **Itachi should, in theory, have a much harder time placing him under genjutsu**, including Tsukuyomi, for the following reasons: 1. **Chakra Insertion**: As Jiraiya stated, genjutsu requires the user to control the target's chakra flow by inserting their chakra into the victim’s chakra network. If Kakashi’s chakra control is superior, he would have an easier time recognizing, blocking, or disrupting Itachi’s attempts to insert chakra into his system before the genjutsu takes hold. This suggests that **Itachi's initial chakra insertion** may not be successful against Kakashi's superior control, preventing the genjutsu from even activating. 2. **Chakra Control and Defense**: Kakashi’s improved chakra control would allow him to better defend against chakra intrusion from Itachi. Even though Itachi is highly skilled, if Kakashi’s chakra control is superior, he should theoretically be able to block Itachi’s chakra from taking over his system. This would render Itachi unable to establish the necessary conditions to cast his genjutsu. 3. **Breaking Genjutsu Mechanics**: While Tsukuyomi is an extraordinarily powerful genjutsu once initiated, the initial steps to place someone inside still follow the general principles of chakra manipulation. The Sharingan itself does offer some advantages in casting genjutsu quickly and with precision, but if Kakashi can prevent the chakra control imbalance required for genjutsu initiation, it would be hard for Itachi to cast it at all. 4. **Avoiding Eye Contact**: Additionally, Kakashi’s knowledge of how Itachi's genjutsu works, especially after his previous experience, gives him an advantage. If Kakashi can avoid direct eye contact with Itachi, that would eliminate the conduit for the genjutsu altogether. Combined with his superior chakra control, this would make it extremely difficult for Itachi to catch Kakashi in Tsukuyomi or any other Sharingan-based genjutsu. ### Conclusion: In summary, you’re correct that **before** Tsukuyomi or any genjutsu can take effect, the user must successfully inject their chakra into the victim’s chakra system. If Kakashi has **superior chakra control**, Itachi should, in theory, struggle to successfully initiate the genjutsu, even with the Mangekyō Sharingan. The unique effects of Tsukuyomi are indeed irrelevant if the genjutsu can’t be activated in the first place. So, based on the rules of chakra control and genjutsu initiation, it’s plausible that **Kakashi’s superior chakra control could prevent Itachi from ever successfully placing him under genjutsu**, making Kakashi largely immune to Itachi’s techniques in this scenario.”
@@TheLightningBlade i totally get it. I mean you have a big fanbase and as a youtuber you have a responsibility to not piss off your viewers and be as fair as possible. thats why i watch nearly all your youtube videos. you try to be as fair as possible.
Yes Itachi put Orochimaru in a genjustu that doesn’t mean do they actually fought he wouldn’t have to exert effort. We know that Hiruzen even just a few years younger is stronger than the Sanin by a good margin. I think Itachi’s genjustu feats early in the series exaggerates the gaps in power between him and others. I agree he definitely beats hiruzen comfortably
Itachi was constantly stated to be the most prodigious Uchiha that Sasuke looked up to. The novels just go more in depth on why Itachi was considered a genius in the Uchiha. He was compared to Minato and stated to be a man that only comes once a century by Danzo. He thought differently than everyone else since the age of 4. We have just never seen Itachi go all out in combat and when we do see him, he’s has illness and already near blind and still outlasted Sasuke in a 2v1. Itachi was purposely meant to be unscaled because his power is great but his intellect is his greatest weapon.
@@derekseago9647 well I saw Lightning went for both sides for ppl who are not wanting to consider the novels as canon so at least he still is aware Kakashi still stomps lol
Feel lack you guys didnt take into account Tobirama's absurd amount of experience fighting against and defeating Uchiha his entire life. One of them being Madaras brother. At the very least it'd be 5/10 times either side.
@@100navat i understand, however most Uchiha in question didn’t have MS at least not that we’re aware of so they likely wouldn’t have been as deadly as Itachi. Izuna is definitely a good case for Tobirama, but Izuna also didn’t have the hax abilities and weapons that Itachi does. In terms of hax is might even say Itachi could possibly beat Izuna. Especially if we’re considering he and Tobirama relatively close to each in terms of power and at the same time considering that the gap between Izuna and Madara is the same as Hashirama and Tobirama
@@TheLightningBladeIf Itachi is equal to a phase 2 EMS sasuke who was fazed by Tobirama simply accumulating chakra in his finger Itachi doesn’t have many options to tag Tobirama.And we can’t forget his arsenal is anti Uchiha You guys completely ignored this for what ever uchiha bias. Yes Hiruzen navigated bringer of darkness But Hiruzen doesn’t rely on his special eyes for precog.Itachi’s at a massive disadvantage if tobirama does this.Given the fact sasuke was actually sweating at this build up of tobirama’s chakra it’s probably safe to assume hes got a better reserve than a KCM 1.5 naruto waiting for kurama.So he could easily out last Itachi if none of his normal moves can break a susano.Or he could gather an edo tensi for tandem realistically Itachi couldn’t really catch Tobirama if he retreated for the ritual.
Couldn't Minato just teleport from the flames. I mean Obito had him in Kamui but he just teleported away and nullified the effects. I don't think Amaterasu will travel with him in the dimension void he uses Hiraishin with. Plus Minato reaction time is good enough that he'll only take supplemental damage from the flames before he teleported away.
i would say minato is fast, but it only takes one glance at Itachi's eyes, since he's proficient and fast enough to put many in a genjutsu before they even notice.
Hashirama > itachi Tobirama > itachi Prime hiruzen > itachi Old hiruzen < itachi Minato ~ itachi Danzo < itachi Tsunade < itachi(unfortunately lol) Hokage Kakashi > itachi Hokage Naruto > all of the akatsuki and hokage at the same time.
We probably should have added Danzo just for Itachi to have some revenge. Probably would’ve been the only fight Itachi would have NO problem going all out on 😂
Dygo not counting the novels makes me not like him even more😂 the novels are confirmed canon u can’t just disregard them. They’re not power fantasies if Boruto villains are planetary level now
Itachi knows how to fight speedsters. His best friend was shisui uchiha. Shisui is faster than tobirama. I also believe itachi is eqivalent in strength to minato since the story kinda gives you a hint where obito says that people like itachi are a nuisance. Just the same as obito thought of minato.
Tsunade didn’t break Sasuke and Kakashi out of Tsukuyomi, Sasuke’s lasted 24h hours and Kakashi 72h mentally, but at the end of their fights they were out of the Genjutsu and were able to communicate with people, what she did was heal the phisical and mental toll the genjutsu had on their bodies. Tsunade being immune to genjutsu is one of the stupidest headcanon I have ever seen
@@derekseago9647 but it is still her own chakra, she may store a great quantity of it in a separate place but it is still part of her chakra network, so ii would still be affected by genjutsu
@@joaobrito2874 it doesnt matter whos chakra it is . all the matter is that the chakra flow is interrupted . its more stored inside a seal which when open allows for a constant source of chakra entering her system. thats why she cant always use that chakra.
@@derekseago9647this assumes that she doesn’t activate it right off the bat however. Itachi in character goes for genjutsu off rip, we only see Tsunade using her advanced healing techniques when she really needs to. That being said it’s more than likely Itachi lands a genjutsu then Tsunade can activate her seal. And even if she could resist basic sharingan genjutsu, amaterasu because of the nature of how it operates would essentially force Tsunade’s seal to enter an “overdrive” state. It’d use up too quickly and the fight would be history at that point.
@@Amoeby My knee jerk reaction was that Itachi's like, 4 one shot abilities had a decent chance of working on Hashirama. Now that I've watched the video, I agree that Hashirama can maintain the distance to keep that from being an issue.
Yall are saying Tsunade can't hit itachi but she hit madara unassisted with his ems while he's attempting to dodge her punch and got blown up for it. She's fast enough to pressure itachi and keep him on his toes. Madara could react and block V2 Ay's speed before being amped by ohnoki. For amaterasu, Tsunade can remove the uppermost layer of her skin to nullify the technique, she can use a chakra shroud like naruto did to remove amaterasu like he did vs sasuke. Thanks to the byakugou seal her and Sakura are the two most resistant to genjutsu as they are most in tune with their chakra flow. Add katsuyu to this and she's just going to be almost immune to genjutsu, katsuyu can remove amaterasu from Tsunade's body and herself, she's fireproof so reg firestyle won't work on her, her acid can oneshot itachi and can affect yata mirror as its sage energy and natural acid as well as the most acidic based attack in the verse. Katsuyu can split apart on a whim to avoid being sealed or reshape her body to dodge attacks as she can liquefy herself. Tsunade can also dodge thanks to her evasion prowess that she taught sakura. Tsunade has body pathway derangement which is game over for itachi as they will engage into h2h. You're saying Tsunade doesn't have an long ranged attacks but she does as just being in the aoe of her attacks can kill or seriously injure you she can easily replicate war arc Sakura's punch. She can also deflect itachi's long ranged ninjutsu back at him with her chakra shroud deflection and coupled with her strength it would be moving back to itachi at quite the speed. She tanked madara's magatama beads point blank without damage so itachi's ain't doing anything. Itachi doesn't have the reserves, endurance, durability or stamina to keep up with Tsunade. Tsunade could also just break the sword with her chakra enhanced strength as her fists are coated with chakra and not physically/directly touching the sword. The only way I see Tsunade losing is if she decides to tank a hit from the blade and play possum like she did vs madara and then tries to break the sword before she's sealed but its a sealing jutsu but also a sword at the same time😅. She has broken all versions of madara's susanoo swords except perfect susanoo. Then again, before being sealed, a katsuyu clone can always reverse summon tsunade to its location on the battlefield so 🤷♂️
Lol your head canon is like mine for hiruzen. As far as I'm concerned ino shika cho formation with shadow clones is 1 example of the crazy style he could have had. Not handy against maybe multiple kage level opponents, but 1v1 is a crazy advantage
@@Shadowsmoke11 Madara wasn't toying with shit, because he's an edo he can afford to be more reckless - Tsunade pressed him unassisted and forced him to use a wood clone last minute to avoid being sealed - If you wanna say madara was toying with Tsunade and the others while using all of his kit being woodstyle that is not his, susanoo and rennegan (didn't achieve his rennegan till his deathbed) abilities along with edo tensei hax, you should say the very same for 8 gates guy which madara did nothing and just let guy hit him - No use of woodstyle, no susanoo, no meteors, no rennegan abilities, no limbo clones and didn't make use of hashirama's sage mode that he absorbed - Guy also needed help to even touch madara directly while Tsunade did it on her own while he's attempting to dodge and he got blown up for it.
Itachi is the kunai master he would probably just counter minatos kunai with kunai Also cant he view the battlefield like pain with his crows? And fight outside of his sussano while its active?
The same fights talked about over and over again. The same 12 characters brought up again and again in these vs matches. Not a diss on you I enjoyed the video it’s just the community as a whole not wanting to talk about anything but the akatsuki or hokage fighting each other lol.
I totally understand, this weeks video is gonna be different.. cross verse time 😏 then the week after I got something similar to other videos but also different
Very Biased video. But am not surprised at this point. The only people Itachi absolutely defeat in that list are Hiruzen, and Kakashi. And he can't defeat Hashirama, Tobirama will beat him 6 out of 4, Tsunade will be a tie (5/5), and Naruto will beat him.
Hokage kakashi just blitzes. That's it. It;s 2024. Stop talking about boruto era/hokage kakashi like people should be shocked. It is not controversial anymore
Loses to Hashirama 10/10 times Loses to Naruto 10/10 times Loses to Kakashi 9/10 times (If you want to use War Arc Kakashi I think they probably split 5/10 times ) Minato wins 7/10 times Tobirama wins 6/10 times Itachi beats Hiruzen and Tsunade 10/10 times
You guys realize Itachi has the best kunai feats in the entire series? You can't even count how many he used against Sasuke. He deflected EMS Sasuke's kunai... WITHOUT LOOKING. All it takes it to light 1 kunai on fire and he can spread it to his other kunai like kindling. And what use is Minato's marking against clones? Speaking of, crow clones use less chakra than normal clones. The guy with the most battle IQ running out of chakra first is a contradiction. Btw, Itachi has better blindside feats than Minato. And he doesn't even need FTG to accomplish. To answer the age-old question of how fast is Itachi? He's perception-blitzingly fast. He even managed to perception blitz an EMS user and perfect sage. What more do you want?
Itachi was able to counter Sasuke who summoned his Kunai. He has shown that he could easily counter Minato’s Shuriken with his own Shurikenjutsu without needing to expend chakra. This would also give Itachi a clear viewsight of where Minato is plotting on attacking him from. Itachi also has multiple ways of placing someone under Genjutsu outside his Sharingan and both he and Minato are skilled Shadow Clone Users. Itachi could also one shot Minato who has no knowledge of Tsukuyomi. I think they are equal and comparable.
@@TheLightningBlade ik ik if he isnt he one shots every one besides people with over whelming amount of chakara aka hashirama AND MAYBEEEEE NARUTO even tho it was never said he could brake out
About Minato vs Itachi, the only advantage Minato has over Itachi is stamina, but that's irrelevant, because Itachi doesn't waste chakra, he has feats, in excess of reaction speed and body speed, Minato isn't faster than Shisui in body speed, the kunai would never work to get close, because Itachi is a specialist (fighting Sasuke), and a superior 10x more genius then Minato, Itachi genjutsu is like 8 gates taijutsu of level of power in comparison with Madara, obito doesn't try to use genjutsu on his opponents, not even those who had knowledge have never escaped even from his basic genjutsu or even with the teachings of Jiraiya Sensei of Minato, by your analogy Jiraiya also defeats Itachi, since he looked into his eyes with conviction.. About Itachi; What people don't understand is that opponents without knowledge and external powers all lose with the exception of Kaguya and Shisui, until the end of Shippuden. Among the 3 ninja arts: ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu, genjutsu has always been the most dangerous art, because until Madara Rikudo's final move to dominate the world, it was the "infinite genjutsu Tsukuyomi". Itachi literally says to Kakashi, that "only a true heir of the Sharigan with Mangekyou would have a chance against him." At the age of 7, already reasoning as a Hokage, she knew how to infuse chakra without ever having learned, for example; When he saved his mother from a giant rock during the attack of the Nine Tails, he resisted the death genjutsu. At 8 years old without Sharingan (which the jonins on his team could not resist), at age 10 he was already stronger than all the jonins, including Kakashi. Itachi trained on equal terms with Shisui, the fastest ninja in terms of body speed, where his speed was even confused with teleportation (remarkable when his movement was not noticed even by Sharingan users). Itachi must have even copied his techniques, as he copied Kisame's, Water Style, because he trained so much with them. He mastered water, wind and fire in his short life. His potential was always astronomical. After his death, Sasuke tried the medicine his brother took to stay alive, and could not even stand, see, or breathe properly. Even when he was close to his deathbed, he was far superior to Sasuke. His Amaterasu was considered the "most powerful ninjutsu" by Zetsu. Negro, who witnessed the entire history of the ninja world, even by Kabuto Senim Perfect all puffed up, considered him his greatest weapon, even having Madara in his arsenal, before he wanted to undo Kabuto's control, where he had to be nerfed at age 13 (after massacre), because almost no character would survive his techniques, especially Amaterasu, which not even Obito could avoid, as well as Tsukuyomi. After Itachi revealed his legendary weapons, he was considered by Black Zetsu as "invincible" because his weapons had the best attack and best defense in existence. Itachi did not have brute strength, but everything was of the best quality, everything insta-kill if used to its maximum potential. He was also the most intelligent and brilliant person in the entire Naruto universe, with intelligence almost at the maximum level, in the 9 aspects of intelligence, with legendary knowledge about the Uchiras, about Senim mode. Recognized by Hashirama "a shinobi better than me", Danzo (one every hundred years), [Ninja Academy]; there has never been one like him in history, even after Minato's feats. Going so far as to claim that it was the weakness of any jutsu, his chakra control was so absurd that he could do more than double, with half the chakra, evident in the fight against Sasuke Snorted. He also had resistance, as he partially tanked Sasuke's Karin, including having completely destroyed the floor, and his clothes. However, the Uchiha massacre at the age of 13 made him sick in mind (depression) and body (mysterious illness), which discouraged him from trying to evolve or heal himself. He only focused on planning his death from that day on, as he lost the love for his life, until he finally died at the age of 21, where he never showed his maximum potential, only 50% when in Edo Tensei, even so he showed perfect Naruto MK1/Kabuto Senim level taijutsu, otherwise, if his growth continued exponentially; there would be no limits. For example; Some cells (Hashirama) would not even lose to Madara's absurd resistance, Itachi with Hashirama's cells, in addition to becoming ultra powerful, would not have any illness or eye wear, if the narrative were not unfavorable to him, for not being decent straight from the Otsutsukis, he could awaken even the Rinnegan, then he would solo even the aliens... that's why he didn't evolve any further after the age of 13. Because he would surpass Madara, in his strongest form. It is worth remembering that Sasuke's Rinnegan are Itachi's eyes. If Rinnegan were a possibility, he could have a unique ability even better than Sasuke, because his genjutsu already transcends reality, in his novel "Itachi Shinden" it was revealed that his Tsukuyomi breaks the barrier between genjutsu/reality and can literally kill/live entire lives/who knows, even train... awaken mangeko in others... He can also seal his powers, in his hundreds of crows that he can summon, making it impossible to fight with activated vision against him, (Kabuto Senim Perfect knew). He was the greatest prodigy, his qi will probably never be surpassed, but he did not live long enough to reach his peak, but the possibilities were only in the air... like eternal + cells + Senim...
I think Itachi could beat Minato tbh. Itachi has a pretty good move set to counter Minato. Itachi’s Kunai/Shuriken skills can deflect Minato’s ftg Kunai’s. Base to base Itachi is relative to Minato in speed. Minato also has to watch out for genjutsu/Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu. Furthermore Minato can’t break Itachi’s Susano and Minato has to watch out for the Totsuka blade and Yasaka beads. I like Minato and he is strong, but I think Minato would be overwhelmed especially with them having similar BIQ. @TheLightningBlade I do want to know your thoughts on the Kunai/Shuriken argument. I did copy and paste this from the community post but no one brings up Itachi’s Kunai skills in deflecting the flying Raijin Kunai for some reason. You said that Minato has to much going for him but I think the opposite in favor for Itachi. I have this going 6-7 out of 10 with Itachi winning most of the fights. Of course not Kcm Minato, but alive Hokage Minato. W vid though.
@@derekseago9647 Itachi kept up with Kcm1 Naruto with a 3 tomoe Sharingan. The same Kcm Naruto that out ran the Raikage’s fastest punch. So base to base they are relative. Minato is only the fastest ninja when he is using ftg.
Who Is The Smartest.. Itachi or Minato?
Hmmm tough to say but I’d probably go off Minato but I think objectively Itachi has more chances to show IQ feats.
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@@TheLightningBlade in overall outsmarting i got itachi but iq defiently goes to minato
1.Minato 2. Itachi 3. the rest
@@derekseago9647 hmm fair
Above Hiruzen and Tsunade, a little below Tobirama.
I would rank him above or equal to Tobirama and below Minato
@@exequielbreton4393 What's your opinion on KCM2 Naruto x Tobirama and KCM2 Naruto x healthy/prime Itachi?
@@exequielbreton4393 It's hard to say considering "healthy Itachi" just doesn't really exist. Powerwise I do think he could beat Tobirama, but in-character I just think Tobirama is way too experienced and familiar with fighting Uchihas to fall for most of Itachi's hax. I think it'd be a battle of whomever lands the first hit, which would just be Tobirama more times then not, though I do acknowledge that Itachi could always manage to squeeze out a tough W.
Thank YOU FOR SAYING THAT, A HEALTHY ITACHI DOES NOT EXIST!!! @@Intrepid_Explorer
Not even a little, he's just plain up below Tobirama. Tobirama gets heavily slept on.
Dygo will never let him lived down his death scene. Tobirama and the team was completely exhausted and even if Hiruzen who was likely in his prime wouldn’t have lived had he gone back as the distraction. At you admit it’s bias thing lol.
The problem with "full power" Itachi is that he isn't a character you can powerscale - he's a walking plot device to save characters from otherwise impossible situations.
In other words, he's not just strong, he's straight up broken. He's the OP character in a game that breaks the balance, only this time there are no devs to patch him. You can't have any weaknesses if they're not "programmed" into the series.
With other characters, you eventually see their weaknesses/limits. Itachi never got that far, so he will forever remain "invincible".
💯 Exactly! Which is why I always feel like 5 Kage Summit Sasuke is about as fair reference point for gage when talking about how long he can last in a fight
Full power itachi is not all that when compared to the top tiers and gods. He doesn’t have the chakra or abilities to compare, everyone else can spam their big jutsus meanwhile itachi would fizzle out half way through
@@TheLightningBlade Yeah, after all you have to have some frame of reference since we don't know how much stamina/chakra he had in his prime, and on top of that we never saw any version of Itachi go all out, he's always either nerfed (illness, Edo) or suppressing himself (vs Sasuke, vs KCM Naruto, vs Kabuto). But then for the physical scaling itself you have to give him his Edo feats, since he would be unquantifiably stronger when alive and healthy.
@@KingJinzo2125 That's why I it's tough to put him against the Hokage. He has the most hax of all them, but most of them easily outscale him.
Itachi and Minato were meant to be unscaled. They acted as the benchmarks for the protagonist to Surpass. And when it comes to both of their stories specifically, it’s about their genius and how no other was like them. The only version of Itachi people can realistically scale is the one that purposefully held back, almost blind and near his deathbed from terminal illness yet he still outlasted Sasuke after fighting Orochimaru as well in chakra and ran out the moment he died meaning his chakra reserves are higher than some believe and it’s only his stamina from illness that was the issue. As seen with Edo that was only a glimpse of what Healthy Itachi is capable of. And for those talking about speed, he was able to rival his older best friend who was also talented and feared for their speed like Minato. Which shows when he dodged KCM Naruto and Bee simultaneously. A healthy Itachi would be much faster and his reserves would be intact for those that don’t know he used chakra and heavy medication to subdue the illness.
Daily reminder that Boruto is not canon
Gotta give the daily dose of Boruto reminding 😎👌🏻
Stfu bro. Boruto is actually pretty good rn. If u would actually read the manga
@@Shinjutzu The cope begins...
@@TheLightningBladeAbout Minato vs Itachi, the only advantage Minato has over Itachi is stamina, but that's irrelevant, because Itachi doesn't waste chakra, he has feats that I've already mentioned, in excess of reaction speed and body speed, Minato isn't faster than Shisui in body speed, the kunai would never work to get close, because Itachi is a specialist (fighting Sasuke), and a superior genius 1 in 100, in comparison with Minato 1 in 10, Itachi genjutsu is like 8 gates taijutsu of level of power in comparison with Madara, Morte doesn't try to use genjutsu on his opponents, not even those who had knowledge have ever escaped even from his basic genjutsu or even with the teachings of Jiraiya Sensei of Minato, by your analogy Jiraiya also defeats Itachi, since he looked into his eyes with conviction.. About Itachi; What people don't understand is that opponents without knowledge and external powers all lose with the exception of Kaguya and Shisui, until the end of Shippuden. Among the 3 ninja arts: ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu, genjutsu has always been the most dangerous art, because until Madara Rikudo's final move to dominate the world, it was the "infinite genjutsu Tsukuyomi". Itachi literally says to Kakashi, that "only a true heir of the Sharigan with Mangekyou would have a chance against him." At the age of 7, already reasoning as a Hokage, she knew how to infuse chakra without ever having learned, for example; When he saved his mother from a giant rock during the attack of the Nine Tails, he resisted the death genjutsu. At 8 years old without Sharingan (which the jonins on his team could not resist), at age 10 he was already stronger than all the jonins, including Kakashi. Itachi trained on equal terms with Shisui, the fastest ninja in terms of body speed, where his speed was even confused with teleportation (remarkable when his movement was not noticed even by Sharingan users). Itachi must have even copied his techniques, as he copied Kisame's, Water Style, because he trained so much with them. He mastered water, wind and fire in his short life. His potential was always astronomical. After his death, Sasuke tried the medicine his brother took to stay alive, and could not even stand, see, or breathe properly. Even when he was close to his deathbed, he was far superior to Sasuke. His Amaterasu was considered the "most powerful ninjutsu" by Zetsu. Negro, who witnessed the entire history of the ninja world, even by Kabuto Senim Perfect all puffed up, considered him his greatest weapon, even having Madara in his arsenal, before he wanted to undo Kabuto's control, where he had to be nerfed at age 13 (after massacre), because almost no character would survive his techniques, especially Amaterasu, which not even Obito could avoid, as well as Tsukuyomi. After Itachi revealed his legendary weapons, he was considered by Black Zetsu as "invincible" because his weapons had the best attack and best defense in existence. Itachi did not have brute strength, but everything was of the best quality, everything insta-kill if used to its maximum potential. He was also the most intelligent and brilliant person in the entire Naruto universe, with intelligence almost at the maximum level, in the 9 aspects of intelligence, with legendary knowledge about the Uchiras, about Senim mode. Recognized by Hashirama "a shinobi better than me", Danzo (one every hundred years), [Ninja Academy]; there has never been one like him in history, even after Minato's feats. Going so far as to claim that it was the weakness of any jutsu, his chakra control was so absurd that he could do more than double, with half the chakra, evident in the fight against Sasuke Snorted. He also had resistance, as he partially tanked Sasuke's Karin, including having completely destroyed the floor, and his clothes. However, the Uchiha massacre at the age of 13 made him sick in mind (depression) and body (mysterious illness), which discouraged him from trying to evolve or heal himself. He only focused on planning his death from that day on, as he lost the love for his life, until he finally died at the age of 21, where he never showed his maximum potential, only 50% when in Edo Tensei, even so he showed perfect Naruto MK1/Kabuto Senim level taijutsu, otherwise, if his growth continued exponentially; there would be no limits. For example; Some cells (Hashirama) would not even lose to Madara's absurd resistance, Itachi with Hashirama's cells, in addition to becoming ultra powerful, would not have any illness or eye wear, if the narrative were not unfavorable to him, for not being decent straight from the Otsutsukis, he could awaken even the Rinnegan, then he would solo even the aliens... that's why he didn't evolve any further after the age of 13. Because he would surpass Madara, in his strongest form. It is worth remembering that Sasuke's Rinnegan are Itachi's eyes. If Rinnegan were a possibility, he could have a unique ability even better than Sasuke, because his genjutsu already transcends reality, in his novel "Itachi Shinden" it was revealed that his Tsukuyomi breaks the barrier between genjutsu/reality and can literally kill/live entire lives/who knows, even train... awaken mangeko in others... He can also seal his powers, in his hundreds of crows that he can summon, making it impossible to fight with activated vision against him, (Kabuto Senim Perfect knew). He was the greatest prodigy, his qi will probably never be surpassed, but he did not live long enough to reach his peak, but the possibilities were only in the air... like eternal + cells + Senim...
@@ChromiumCastle ok but why? other than your personal bias ….
First off, my scaling for healthy Itachi is as follows: His Edo version kept up with KCM Naruto, and if Naruto wasn't going all out neither was Itachi since he didn't even have the MS active. However, that Naruto had already sent his clones to the different battlefronts, so just from this we can't say Itachi is definitely above KCM Naruto. But then if we analyze his fight with Kabuto, where he was suppressed because he couldn't simply kill or seal Kabuto away, and was asking Sasuke to be careful as well, we see that Itachi is able to move at the same pace as Kabuto, and only gets hit from a surprise attack and then he lets Kabuto stab him with Sasuke's sword in order to set up Izanami. Just as Madara said after being revived that he had become used to fight carelessly because he was an Edo Tensei, Itachi made Kabuto stab him multiple times in order to set up the repeating pattern for Izanami because he could afford to take damage. Knowing this, it's disingenuous to say Sage Kabuto can simply blitz Edo Itachi. But we also can't say neither Kabuto nor Itachi were on the level of KCM2. Given that the Edo Tensei can't bring a person back at 100%, we know Itachi was nerfed to an unquantifiable degree. Therefore, a conservative estimate for his prime self, not yet afflicted by his illness, would put him a little bit above his Edo version, probably above KCM Naruto and below KCM2, and either equal to or slightly above Sage Kabuto.
As for Minato, Tobirama himself states he's better at "Shunshin" than him. Normally that would mean Body Flicker, but apparently Tobirama uses the term inconsistenly, sometimes referring to FTG as "Shunshin", so that's contentious. But regardless, he's faster at one of them. And Minato is more proficient with FTG. So I think it's safe to place him above Tobirama.
I've seen people argue that KCM Minato is relative to SM KCM2 Naruto, which is not true for many reasons. Depending on how you interpret the Raikage's statement, KCM Naruto is relative in speed to either Jounin or Hokage Minato. In the interest of not downplaying him, let's go with the argument that "the yellow flash" refers to Jounin Minato and the Raikage never saw what Hokage Minato was capable of. Plus, there's the comparison with Kakashi mistaking Naruto for Minato right after he unlocks KCM2. With that said I think it's fair to scale Hokage Minato to around KCM2 Naruto.
Now it depends on how much you think Itachi was nerfed as an Edo. Was he relative to KCM2 Naruto before the illness? If he was, then he's relative to Minato and definitely wins because he has a better arsenal. I personally don't think prime Itachi would have been that strong/fast. If Minato has the edge in speed, he can win. He doesn't blitz because Itachi is still very fast and has MS precog. If Minato is faster, then Itachi has to compensate by using his MS abilities, which would gradually drain his chakra and his eyesight. Minato's win cons are outlasting Itachi or marking him. Itachi's win cons are the Totsuka Blade, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu (only with strategy, as Minato is fast enough to dodge it normally), and maybe comboing those with Izanagi so he can catch Minato off guard (though Minato is a sensory type). Minato is faster, Itachi has more durability, AP and hax. Both are geniuses, so even if Itachi is a bit smarter it would be hard to outsmart Minato. This is a very interesting fight, but I have to give the win to Minato because I believe he's faster than Itachi. It's definitely not 10/10 though. IDK what number to give, but Itachi can win high diff.
Tobirama is weaker than Minato. His Water Style would be able to counter Itachi's Fire Style but they don't matter against the MS techniques. Tobirama would have to rely on FTG. As with Minato, he pretty much wins if he can place a marking on Itachi. But by definition Itachi would have less of a hard time fighting Tobirama than fighting Minato. But he's not too far below him, and if we want to be fair all we know is that Minato > Tobirama. And his Edo version was reacting to Juubito, therefore he must be above Rinnegan Obito, which I believe is relative to Itachi and SM Kabuto.
Hiruzen we have to definte which version we're talking about. For prime Hiruzen, we have to give him his Edo Tensei feats. He doesn't perform much worse than Tobirama, and he's also able to react to Juubito and understand the nature of the Truth Seeking Orbs at the same time. Maybe this version loses to Itachi, but not his alive, young self. His prime has to be stronger than his Edo version, though still inferior to Minato. Prime Hiruzen is either slightly above or below Tobirama. However, he doesn't have FTG and he never showed any hax abilities. He still outscales Itachi but he has a very bad match-up in terms of arsenal. Either once can win mid-hard diff. As for Old Man Hiruzen, he gets stomped by even sick Itachi.
Tsunade is the only one that scales below Itachi, so she definitively loses. Oh, yeah, we also know that Itachi is stronger than Kakuzu, so this means he's relative to Hashirama. Given his superior intellect + one-shot abilities, I'd say Itachi wins low-mid diff.
So in summary my ranking would be: Hashirama > Minato > Tobirama > Prime Hiruzen > Healthy Itachi > Edo Itachi > Byakugou Tsunade > Sick Itachi > Old Man Hiruzen > Base Tsunade.
@@giannixx minato is overrated. He is strong mainly because of ftg but ftg depends on kunai so he is easily countered by itachi. Also minato's ftg is faster than tobirama but his movements are not. The most obvious is when minato encountered the two brothers AB: when minato's attack had not yet reached A, B had already pushed A, when minato used level 2 ftg to attack B, he was counterattacked so to be exact his movements were not faster than B. As for kcm minato, look at the moment when ems sasuke saved naruto from obito six paths, while minato didn't even have any action
@@NamNguyen-wh1bjHe was mental nerfed bro.
@@giannixxI think prime hiruzen is above tobirama.
@@Oblivionking7 no, he's just overated
33:15 LMFAO I love how genuine that "WAIT WHAT" was from Dygo 😂😂😂
Nice!! Love itachi videos!
Glad you like them!
People keep forgetting that Tobirama is a top tier water jutsu user with a lightning sword that can do a lot of damage.
minato use ftg faster than tobirama BUT his move can't compare with tobirama, tobirama is in next level
If anyone thinks Itachi can defeat Hokage Kakashi that means you think he can fight Kashin Koji and by extension defeat V2 Karma Jigen who stomped Adult 6 Paths Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke.
Wait so does Kage Kakashi stomp Boruto era Naruto/Sasuke 😭 I'm not too caught up in Boruto
@@BLACKVeil47no hes just glazing because of anime filler
@@BLACKVeil47 no . he killed 10 percent jigen. which means kakashi is relative to supressed six paths sage mode kcm2 naruto while an adult. which is far above the likes of kaguya
kashin koji kept up with a nerfed jigen who only ever fought in base who both naruto and sasuke are above
@@RA1JIN07Nope, Base Jigen kicked Base Naruto with ease and then Naruto used KCM to kick Base Jigen back. Base Naruto himself is stronger than whole shippuden
yooo what song is that you have on the video its so fire
at 12:40
I believe it’s from the Naruto Ultimate Ninja 3 (PS2) character selection OST
Every Itachi video would be so different if they hadn’t given almost all of his abilities to sasuke after his death. Imagine if we didn’t know how amaterasu worked or the sussano. Also we have this assumption that fights wouldn’t end in a genjutsu 1 shot because the series kinda ignores genjutsu after a certain point but realistically he would probably 1 shot at least 1 of these hokage with tsukuyomi.
@@jackloughridge7617 They should have given Sasuke his own unique skill set instead of nerfing Itachi’s through Sasuke. Black Flames that could eat other flames and is as hot as the surface of the sun yet somehow burns slowly but Itachi was able to pierce a supposedly impenetrable toad belly with it. It spawns near instantly yet somehow characters who are not sensory types could avoid it. Itachi’s abilities as a whole seems more potent than Sasuke’s who could use his abilities more fluently. At least in the 5 Kage Summit where Sasuke was noted to still be inferior to Itachi outside of being able to construct Amaterasu which is a MS ability.
Another thing to note about Itachi’s fight with Sasuke is that despite holding back he had to give the illusion that he wasn’t, meaning it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume that Itachi was fighting uncharacteristically. Keep in mind that nobody would know Itachi’s body more than himself, he realistically isn’t going to be throwing out techniques and praying they’ll land or using them unreasonably like he was during that fight. He’ll try to end the fight as quickly and effectively as possible. He won’t use very taxing techniques unless he’s 100% confident that he’ll land them. This means that even if the fight is drawn out, assuming he’s not killed he’ll still manage for a long while whilst trying to get around his opponent’s defenses because he knows once his illness kicks in his performance will drop. There’s zero incentive to use up chakra where it isn’t needed. So sure Itachi may not have the biggest reserves but unless you’re on the higher tier of characters and can force him to use up his chakra, he’ll be fine.
The Superiority of Itachi Uchiha Over Hashirama Senju in a Theoretical Battle
Abstract
This dissertation explores the reasons why Itachi Uchiha, a key figure from the Naruto universe, could be theoretically argued to surpass Hashirama Senju in a head-to-head confrontation. Through a multidimensional analysis that incorporates Itachi’s superior mastery of Genjutsu, his possession of the Mangekyō Sharingan and its advanced techniques, and his strategic genius, this thesis posits that Itachi could effectively counter Hashirama’s Senju abilities despite the latter's reputation as the "God of Shinobi." By examining their respective abilities in the context of their personalities, battle strategies, and inherent weaknesses, I argue that Itachi’s tactical precision and psychological advantage position him to emerge victorious against Hashirama in most hypothetical encounters.
Introduction
Itachi Uchiha and Hashirama Senju are often considered two of the most powerful shinobi in the history of the Naruto world. Hashirama, the First Hokage and founder of Konohagakure, is renowned for his Mokuton (Wood Release) and Senjutsu (Sage Mode), while Itachi, a prodigy of the Uchiha clan, wields the Mangekyō Sharingan and possesses unparalleled mastery of Genjutsu. However, this thesis seeks to demonstrate that, despite Hashirama's immense chakra reserves, combat abilities, and his legendary status, Itachi Uchiha's unique skillset enables him to defeat Hashirama in a one-on-one battle.
Chapter 1: Genjutsu vs. Mokuton - A Battle of Specializations
1.1 Itachi's Genjutsu Mastery
Itachi Uchiha’s command over Genjutsu, specifically through his Mangekyō Sharingan, provides him with a key advantage in combat. His signature technique, Tsukuyomi, allows him to manipulate his opponent’s perception of time and space within an instant, incapacitating them before they can effectively react. The fundamental nature of Genjutsu, which targets the opponent’s mind and nervous system, renders it particularly effective against opponents unaccustomed to countering such abilities.
Hashirama’s raw power in Mokuton techniques, such as the Shinsu Senju (True Several Thousand Hands), cannot be denied. However, these techniques are primarily large-scale, physical attacks that Itachi’s Genjutsu bypasses entirely. By incapacitating Hashirama’s consciousness, Itachi can nullify the brute strength and complexity of his techniques before they are even deployed.
1.2 The Limitations of Mokuton Against Illusionary Techniques
Hashirama’s Wood Release is rooted in his mastery over natural energy and his Sage Mode, but it remains susceptible to mental manipulation. Genjutsu does not engage with physical combat; rather, it works on the mental and sensory systems, forcing the target into hallucinations and altered realities. Even with his exceptional chakra reserves, Hashirama would need to detect and break out of Genjutsu before mounting an effective counterattack. This would require Hashirama to have not only foresight but also significant proficiency in counter-Genjutsu techniques, which is not well-documented in the series.
Chapter 2: Mangekyō Sharingan - The Ultimate Counter to Hashirama's Senjutsu
2.1 Amaterasu vs. Hashirama’s Wood Constructs
Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan gives him access to Amaterasu, the undying black flames that burn until their target is reduced to ash. Hashirama’s large-scale wood constructs, while durable, are organic and thus susceptible to Amaterasu’s flames. Hashirama’s Wood Release, though powerful, is unable to withstand attacks that incinerate matter on a cellular level, as Amaterasu's flames are said to be inextinguishable.
Given the rapid deployment and targeting of Amaterasu, Itachi can burn through Hashirama’s defenses with precision, bypassing the large-scale fortifications that Hashirama typically relies on. This removes Hashirama's ability to engage in prolonged, defensive battles, turning the tide in Itachi’s favor.
2.2 Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade - Itachi’s Perfect Offense and Defense
Itachi wields two unique spiritual weapons: the Yata Mirror and the Totsuka Blade. The Yata Mirror is described as an impenetrable shield, capable of nullifying all ninjutsu-based attacks by altering its chakra properties. This makes it nearly impossible for Hashirama’s wood-based and elemental attacks to reach Itachi, as the Yata Mirror would counter or absorb them.
The Totsuka Blade, a spiritual sword that seals anything it pierces into an eternal genjutsu, provides Itachi with a decisive offensive option. Itachi can seal Hashirama permanently, bypassing his ability to regenerate or recover. While Hashirama has considerable healing capabilities due to his mastery of Senjutsu, the Totsuka Blade's sealing effect would prevent him from using those regenerative powers, effectively ending the battle upon contact.
Chapter 3: Tactical and Psychological Superiority
3.1 Itachi’s Strategic Genius
One of Itachi’s defining traits is his intelligence and ability to plan several steps ahead of his opponents. In his battle with Sasuke, Itachi demonstrated remarkable foresight, manipulating events to achieve his intended outcomes even after his death. His aptitude for deception and manipulation in combat scenarios allows him to turn the tide of battle against stronger foes by exploiting their weaknesses.
While Hashirama is no slouch in the strategy department, his combat style leans more toward overwhelming force and adaptation through sheer power. Itachi, on the other hand, prefers calculated, precise strikes that exploit his opponent's lack of preparation or gaps in their defenses. In a battle against Hashirama, this would allow Itachi to control the pacing of the encounter, weakening Hashirama’s ability to fully utilize his own techniques.
3.2 Psychological Warfare and Hashirama’s Naivety
Itachi's psychological warfare is also a major factor that would tilt the battle in his favor. Itachi often uses fear, intimidation, and mental manipulation to weaken his opponents long before the actual fight begins. Hashirama, while immensely powerful, has a more straightforward and idealistic approach to battle. His tendency to seek peaceful resolutions and avoid unnecessary violence might render him vulnerable to Itachi’s more ruthless tactics. Furthermore, Itachi’s history of making morally complex decisions, such as the slaughter of the Uchiha clan, indicates his willingness to do whatever is necessary to achieve his goal, even if it requires sacrifice or deception.
Chapter 4: Limitations and Rebuttals
4.1 Hashirama’s Chakra Reserves and Regeneration
Critics may argue that Hashirama’s seemingly limitless chakra reserves and his ability to heal from nearly any injury make him a near-immortal figure. However, Itachi’s tactics are designed to bypass such physical endurance. Tsukuyomi, for example, can incapacitate Hashirama in a matter of moments, irrespective of how much chakra he possesses. The Totsuka Blade similarly bypasses physical durability, sealing Hashirama rather than wounding him conventionally.
While Hashirama’s stamina and ability to fight prolonged battles are superior, Itachi’s techniques are designed for quick, decisive engagements, which negate the advantage of drawn-out combat.
4.2 Itachi’s Health and Limitations
Itachi’s chronic illness and limited chakra reserves are notable weaknesses in a prolonged battle. However, Itachi’s combat philosophy revolves around efficiency and precision, meaning that he is unlikely to engage Hashirama in an extended battle where these weaknesses could be fully exploited. Itachi’s use of the Izanami technique also suggests that he has counters prepared even for situations where he might be at a disadvantage due to health or chakra limitations.
Conclusion
In conclusion, while Hashirama Senju is undoubtedly one of the most powerful shinobi in the Naruto universe, the specific abilities of Itachi Uchiha-namely his mastery of Genjutsu, the powers granted by his Mangekyō Sharingan, and his strategic brilliance-give him the edge in a direct confrontation. Hashirama’s immense physical and chakra-based abilities are formidable, but they are ill-suited to counter Itachi’s mental and spiritual techniques, which bypass brute force in favor of precision and psychological dominance. Through this analysis, it becomes clear that Itachi Uchiha, in a one-on-one battle, has the tools necessary to defeat the "God of Shinobi."
Hashirama will beat Itachi like how he beat Madara and kurama
@@TochiIguhgiving him the wood
Didn't know ChatGPT is an Uchiha glazer
ChatGPT essay be like
@@V_inco So you didn't get the joke?
It's so crazy we went from people saying Tobirama gets stomped by Kisame to people now saying that he beats Itachi; a "healthy" Itachi at that.
Tobirama losing the Kisami was never popular.even the swagkage comment section were clowning on the premise.
Hypothetically - Summons like Gama Bunta sorry if I misspelled it, are basically useless in ninja battles and only really shine when their opponents have summons to.. narratively they could perform a lot of help in situations, but normally only called for cool battles and I'm happy about that.
I think the existence of Minato automatically makes people down play Tobirama. Yes Minato is faster but this notion that Tobirama can’t possible mark most of the people y’all put him up against is crazy to me. Minato being faster doesn’t mean that Tobirama can’t make anybody Minato could. Saying he could lose to a base sharing genjustu like huh?😭.
In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat (his Taijutsu it's exceptional and underrated), is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
People heavily underrate Hokage Kakashi just because he isn't shown on screen much, and hasn't he still not done anything in the manga? I don't keep up with it, but I know that technically speaking, all of Kakashi's feats in the Boruto anime are non-canon. But still, if you ever imply Kakashi is say... Minato-tier people get all offended like it's preposterous. I don't know, people act like Kakashi without his Sharingan is disabled or something lmao
@@sirnetflix7162 i completely agree but boruto anime and and the novels are cannon. both authors think si
Everything in the Boruto anime is canon even the filler this has been stated by Kishimoto Himself
I don't agree with the idea that itachi could "possibly" deduce how to counter FTG from seeing it once. I know he did this with chibaku tensei but FTG was a jutsu created by the second to counter the sharingan, itachi wouldn't have enough time to figure out its weakness because it happens too fast.
Also another bit of information on tobirama that you got wrong is he didn't lose to ginkaku and kinkaku, the kinkaku force was a squadron of entirely S-rank shinobi (akatsuki like ninja) who he fought off to a standstill until eventually going down to them. Ginkaku and kinkaku weren't apart of the ninja in that squad it was named kinkaku for unknown reasons
Naaah I think The gap between Hashirama and Itachi is definitely wider than Itachi and Hiruzen.
As soon as i saw Itachi and Hokage i knew Tobirama was going to lose, every video, every video.
Lord second is stronger than every hokage outside of lord 1st and Naruto the fandom just love who they love
@@detectivedckhead5128 Nah, Minato is stronger than him.
@@giannixxMinato, kage kakashi are stronger
@@upfordebate7403 Kage Kakashi is beating no one. People should just stop this
@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc He is and boruto kakashi had koji kashin ducking the fade. The same koji that beat a weakened jigen
Tobirama will beat Itachi any day.
Absolutely
Dygoknight need to release the new rewrite fuck these side quests 😂
Well he only does blatant VS battle videos with me so he’s definitely a real one for it 💪🏻
You're giving him flak for making a collab video? If Dygo appears in other channels, he can get more potential subscribers. If he gets more subscribers, he gets more views (on average), watchtime, and engagement, with that he gets more money, and with that he can better support his channel, which includes being able to afford to produce more rewrite episodes (which perform worse than his regular videdos).
Do people allways forget that tobirama killed Izuna (Madaras brother) who had ms and was equal with Madara round that time. And if given time he can use even edo tensei.
Kurama literally stated TEENAGER Minato was on par with the God himself Hashirama and people still think Itachi would beat Minato...🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@PTminatoPT in skill and sealing
@@derekseago9647that makes no damn sense because it takes a certain about to chraka to perform high level seals let me give you an example Yamato was born with wood release the strongest of the keke genki and his power was created from hashirama cells but he was no where near Hashirama level of power/charka to perform the feats he did because he didn’t have that monstrous chraka but on the other hand Minato at the age of 14 was able to complete stop Kurama from killing kushina might I add that he was also fatigued from his training and was also being physically assaulted with a hole in his chest and kurama sensed so much chraka in him that he compared it to hashirama from the ancient days so these trolls really needs to put some respect on minatos name because he’s tied with Hashirama
Well in terms of sealing ninjutsu
@@MrJAMESTAKER your example doesnt prove your point tho. yes it takes a certain amount of chakra which is still very impressive however there is no way to prove how much chakra it takes. its not like it works the same as reaper death seal which is a 1 to 1 ratio . and if we go off of feats and statements hashirama scales higher
strength: hashirama
combat and travel speed: minato
stamina: hashirama
endurance: hashirama
durability : hashirama
ap: hashirama
dc: hashirama
ninjutsu: hashirama
genjutsu: hashirama
taijutsu: hashirama
kenjutsu: minato
fuinjutsu: minato
kinjutsu: minato
sensory: both
iq: minato
biq: minato
experience: hashirama
hax: minato
hashirama mid - high diffs . however i do think minato has win cons .
@@TheLightningBlade no nigga that makes no sense your sealing ability is based of your charka level dude you need high levels of charka to perform high levels of sealing and Kuramas wasn’t based it response on sealing he was talking about power
Tobirama wouldn’t be able to mark Itachi?? Guys…. Come on lol. Is tobirama not faster than him even without FTG?
Danzo is the shadow hokage Itachi is just the fall guy of the leaf.
im one of the people that use novels feats seeing as they are cannon. I see potential win cons for itachi against kakashi however there are a lot of thing to take account for. like the fact the tsukuyomi requires eye contact and it requires itachi to have superior chakra control than his victim. kakashi has far superior chakra control so there would be no way for itachi to control the flow of chakra inside kakashis brain. even jiraya states this twice.
all if itachis other attack are to slow seeing as kakashi is faster than base koji who is faster than delta who is relative to supressed kcm 2 six paths naruto . who is obviously faster than base naruto who is faster than or relative to kaguya. fire mist jutsu has country level ap/ dc and overcame hagoromos chakra so i dont really see itachis surviving this . kakashis can also just outlast. i think he takes it 8 or 9 times out of 10.
That’s why I wanted to emphasize that I’d use the Kakashi for each side of the argument for people who DONT consider the novels canon and those that DO. Just to try and make everyone happy I guess 🤷🏻♂️😅
@@TheLightningBlade i know and i think thats completely fair . 🍻🥂
ik chat gpt isnt completely reliable however i still explained my logic to it to see if i was potentially right or wrong and this is what it said
“You’re absolutely right in emphasizing that **Tsukuyomi's unique abilities**-such as time manipulation and intense reality distortion-only apply once the target is already inside the genjutsu. Therefore, before that happens, the process of **initiating the genjutsu** still follows the basic rule Jiraiya described: the user must insert their chakra into the victim's chakra network, which depends on the user’s chakra control being superior to the target's.
If Kakashi has superior chakra control, then **Itachi should, in theory, have a much harder time placing him under genjutsu**, including Tsukuyomi, for the following reasons:
1. **Chakra Insertion**: As Jiraiya stated, genjutsu requires the user to control the target's chakra flow by inserting their chakra into the victim’s chakra network. If Kakashi’s chakra control is superior, he would have an easier time recognizing, blocking, or disrupting Itachi’s attempts to insert chakra into his system before the genjutsu takes hold. This suggests that **Itachi's initial chakra insertion** may not be successful against Kakashi's superior control, preventing the genjutsu from even activating.
2. **Chakra Control and Defense**: Kakashi’s improved chakra control would allow him to better defend against chakra intrusion from Itachi. Even though Itachi is highly skilled, if Kakashi’s chakra control is superior, he should theoretically be able to block Itachi’s chakra from taking over his system. This would render Itachi unable to establish the necessary conditions to cast his genjutsu.
3. **Breaking Genjutsu Mechanics**: While Tsukuyomi is an extraordinarily powerful genjutsu once initiated, the initial steps to place someone inside still follow the general principles of chakra manipulation. The Sharingan itself does offer some advantages in casting genjutsu quickly and with precision, but if Kakashi can prevent the chakra control imbalance required for genjutsu initiation, it would be hard for Itachi to cast it at all.
4. **Avoiding Eye Contact**: Additionally, Kakashi’s knowledge of how Itachi's genjutsu works, especially after his previous experience, gives him an advantage. If Kakashi can avoid direct eye contact with Itachi, that would eliminate the conduit for the genjutsu altogether. Combined with his superior chakra control, this would make it extremely difficult for Itachi to catch Kakashi in Tsukuyomi or any other Sharingan-based genjutsu.
### Conclusion:
In summary, you’re correct that **before** Tsukuyomi or any genjutsu can take effect, the user must successfully inject their chakra into the victim’s chakra system. If Kakashi has **superior chakra control**, Itachi should, in theory, struggle to successfully initiate the genjutsu, even with the Mangekyō Sharingan. The unique effects of Tsukuyomi are indeed irrelevant if the genjutsu can’t be activated in the first place.
So, based on the rules of chakra control and genjutsu initiation, it’s plausible that **Kakashi’s superior chakra control could prevent Itachi from ever successfully placing him under genjutsu**, making Kakashi largely immune to Itachi’s techniques in this scenario.”
@@derekseago9647 thanks man! I always worry it might seems like a cop out but I try to see things from different perspectives
@@TheLightningBlade i totally get it. I mean you have a big fanbase and as a youtuber you have a responsibility to not piss off your viewers and be as fair as possible. thats why i watch nearly all your youtube videos. you try to be as fair as possible.
Yes Itachi put Orochimaru in a genjustu that doesn’t mean do they actually fought he wouldn’t have to exert effort. We know that Hiruzen even just a few years younger is stronger than the Sanin by a good margin. I think Itachi’s genjustu feats early in the series exaggerates the gaps in power between him and others. I agree he definitely beats hiruzen comfortably
Those novels make everyone godly lol. Great video btw.
@@FinneyGames_BBG or they go more in depth
Itachi was constantly stated to be the most prodigious Uchiha that Sasuke looked up to. The novels just go more in depth on why Itachi was considered a genius in the Uchiha. He was compared to Minato and stated to be a man that only comes once a century by Danzo. He thought differently than everyone else since the age of 4. We have just never seen Itachi go all out in combat and when we do see him, he’s has illness and already near blind and still outlasted Sasuke in a 2v1. Itachi was purposely meant to be unscaled because his power is great but his intellect is his greatest weapon.
@@rkvlegacy9206 allat to get destroyed by kakashi
They are pretty crazy I’ll admit lol thanks man!
@@derekseago9647 Kakashi has never destroyed Itachi who is younger and stated to be more talented so try again🤭
Also, let’s see if they do Hokage Kakashi dirty in this video or not 🤔🤔
We’ll see 😏🤷🏻♂️
@@johnmilo7629 they did a lil sadly but its good
@@derekseago9647 well I saw Lightning went for both sides for ppl who are not wanting to consider the novels as canon so at least he still is aware Kakashi still stomps lol
@@johnmilo7629 facts that why i just said a lil. (mainly referring to dygo)
The itachi glaze knows no bounds
Feel lack you guys didnt take into account Tobirama's absurd amount of experience fighting against and defeating Uchiha his entire life. One of them being Madaras brother. At the very least it'd be 5/10 times either side.
@@100navat i understand, however most Uchiha in question didn’t have MS at least not that we’re aware of so they likely wouldn’t have been as deadly as Itachi. Izuna is definitely a good case for Tobirama, but Izuna also didn’t have the hax abilities and weapons that Itachi does. In terms of hax is might even say Itachi could possibly beat Izuna. Especially if we’re considering he and Tobirama relatively close to each in terms of power and at the same time considering that the gap between Izuna and Madara is the same as Hashirama and Tobirama
@@TheLightningBladeIf Itachi is equal to a phase 2 EMS sasuke who was fazed by Tobirama simply accumulating chakra in his finger Itachi doesn’t have many options to tag Tobirama.And we can’t forget his arsenal is anti Uchiha You guys completely ignored this for what ever uchiha bias.
Yes Hiruzen navigated bringer of darkness But Hiruzen doesn’t rely on his special eyes for precog.Itachi’s at a massive disadvantage if tobirama does this.Given the fact sasuke was actually sweating at this build up of tobirama’s chakra it’s probably safe to assume hes got a better reserve than a KCM 1.5 naruto waiting for kurama.So he could easily out last Itachi if none of his normal moves can break a susano.Or he could gather an edo tensi for tandem realistically Itachi couldn’t really catch Tobirama if he retreated for the ritual.
@@Archer170Sasuke didn't have his sharingan active and he wasn't fazed by Madara who is far stronger than Tobirama.
I think only Tsunade and Old Hiruzen can be beaten by Itachi.
Tobirama scales past Itachi
I feel like Minato is overhype it’s a fan thing I get it but I personally don’t think he is stronger than the 2nd it was never stated
Couldn't Minato just teleport from the flames. I mean Obito had him in Kamui but he just teleported away and nullified the effects. I don't think Amaterasu will travel with him in the dimension void he uses Hiraishin with. Plus Minato reaction time is good enough that he'll only take supplemental damage from the flames before he teleported away.
i would say minato is fast, but it only takes one glance at Itachi's eyes, since he's proficient and fast enough to put many in a genjutsu before they even notice.
Danzo stomps Itachi with ease😂😂
Honestly apart from a couple things I think this video was pretty fair overall! Great job Lighting and Dygo 💪🏻💪🏻
I appreciate it man 💪🏻
Hashirama > itachi
Tobirama > itachi
Prime hiruzen > itachi
Old hiruzen < itachi
Minato ~ itachi
Danzo < itachi
Tsunade < itachi(unfortunately lol)
Hokage Kakashi > itachi
Hokage Naruto > all of the akatsuki and hokage at the same time.
We probably should have added Danzo just for Itachi to have some revenge. Probably would’ve been the only fight Itachi would have NO problem going all out on 😂
Danzo stomps him with ease😂
@@draco10447 He doesn't💀
Dygo not counting the novels makes me not like him even more😂 the novels are confirmed canon u can’t just disregard them. They’re not power fantasies if Boruto villains are planetary level now
They should start making vice hokage
Itachi knows how to fight speedsters. His best friend was shisui uchiha. Shisui is faster than tobirama. I also believe itachi is eqivalent in strength to minato since the story kinda gives you a hint where obito says that people like itachi are a nuisance. Just the same as obito thought of minato.
Shisui is faster than Tobirama😂😂😂. Nahh show me the feats and not just statements made.
Lol clown. Tobirama is the 2nd fastest after Minato. Sishui is nowhere near😂
Itachi is so overhated🤣
Ironically I have a habit of not scaling him good enough 🤷🏻♂️😅
@@TheLightningBlade mhm
Danzo stomps him with ease😂
Itachi cannot defeat tobirama my man was litrally creating jutsu tobfight against uchiha😂
That is crazy look kakashi can’t touch itachi cause they both are smart and know about each others abilities it works both ways
Tobirama stomps Itachi but however
Tobirama slams, He can teleport susanoo away
Pure bias in this video 😭
That’s a first.. I typically low ball Itachi 😂😂
30:46 Rukia's execution scene the Sokyoku bird from Bleach
I would click on every Danzō video 🥺
Maybe Kakashi or Sunade?
Tsunade didn’t break Sasuke and Kakashi out of Tsukuyomi, Sasuke’s lasted 24h hours and Kakashi 72h mentally, but at the end of their fights they were out of the Genjutsu and were able to communicate with people, what she did was heal the phisical and mental toll the genjutsu had on their bodies. Tsunade being immune to genjutsu is one of the stupidest headcanon I have ever seen
@@joaobrito2874 well i mean with the 100 healings she functionally has a constant source of chakra entering her system right ?
@@derekseago9647 but it is still her own chakra, she may store a great quantity of it in a separate place but it is still part of her chakra network, so ii would still be affected by genjutsu
@@joaobrito2874 it doesnt matter whos chakra it is . all the matter is that the chakra flow is interrupted . its more stored inside a seal which when open allows for a constant source of chakra entering her system. thats why she cant always use that chakra.
@@joaobrito2874 nvm ur right supposedly it doesnt affect it
@@derekseago9647this assumes that she doesn’t activate it right off the bat however. Itachi in character goes for genjutsu off rip, we only see Tsunade using her advanced healing techniques when she really needs to. That being said it’s more than likely Itachi lands a genjutsu then Tsunade can activate her seal. And even if she could resist basic sharingan genjutsu, amaterasu because of the nature of how it operates would essentially force Tsunade’s seal to enter an “overdrive” state. It’d use up too quickly and the fight would be history at that point.
The only kage he could beat is tsunade, and possibly old man hiruzen
Dygoknight sucks eggs, the novels are canon. Kishimoto (the manga author) edited and approved these.
Haven't watched the video yet, but this sounds like "Itachi vs Hashirama" to me.
Bruh, why? Hashirama stomps.
@@Amoeby
My knee jerk reaction was that Itachi's like, 4 one shot abilities had a decent chance of working on Hashirama.
Now that I've watched the video, I agree that Hashirama can maintain the distance to keep that from being an issue.
itachi can break ftg so easily because he is master of shuriken jutsu
If he took fugaku’s eyes he would clap almost everyone
No he won't 😂
In the same ball park at Tobirama and Minato
Yall are saying Tsunade can't hit itachi but she hit madara unassisted with his ems while he's attempting to dodge her punch and got blown up for it. She's fast enough to pressure itachi and keep him on his toes. Madara could react and block V2 Ay's speed before being amped by ohnoki.
For amaterasu, Tsunade can remove the uppermost layer of her skin to nullify the technique, she can use a chakra shroud like naruto did to remove amaterasu like he did vs sasuke. Thanks to the byakugou seal her and Sakura are the two most resistant to genjutsu as they are most in tune with their chakra flow. Add katsuyu to this and she's just going to be almost immune to genjutsu, katsuyu can remove amaterasu from Tsunade's body and herself, she's fireproof so reg firestyle won't work on her, her acid can oneshot itachi and can affect yata mirror as its sage energy and natural acid as well as the most acidic based attack in the verse. Katsuyu can split apart on a whim to avoid being sealed or reshape her body to dodge attacks as she can liquefy herself. Tsunade can also dodge thanks to her evasion prowess that she taught sakura. Tsunade has body pathway derangement which is game over for itachi as they will engage into h2h.
You're saying Tsunade doesn't have an long ranged attacks but she does as just being in the aoe of her attacks can kill or seriously injure you she can easily replicate war arc Sakura's punch. She can also deflect itachi's long ranged ninjutsu back at him with her chakra shroud deflection and coupled with her strength it would be moving back to itachi at quite the speed. She tanked madara's magatama beads point blank without damage so itachi's ain't doing anything. Itachi doesn't have the reserves, endurance, durability or stamina to keep up with Tsunade. Tsunade could also just break the sword with her chakra enhanced strength as her fists are coated with chakra and not physically/directly touching the sword. The only way I see Tsunade losing is if she decides to tank a hit from the blade and play possum like she did vs madara and then tries to break the sword before she's sealed but its a sealing jutsu but also a sword at the same time😅. She has broken all versions of madara's susanoo swords except perfect susanoo.
Then again, before being sealed, a katsuyu clone can always reverse summon tsunade to its location on the battlefield so 🤷♂️
Lol your head canon is like mine for hiruzen. As far as I'm concerned ino shika cho formation with shadow clones is 1 example of the crazy style he could have had. Not handy against maybe multiple kage level opponents, but 1v1 is a crazy advantage
Madara was TOYING with Tsunade and the other kage.
@@Shadowsmoke11 Madara wasn't toying with shit, because he's an edo he can afford to be more reckless - Tsunade pressed him unassisted and forced him to use a wood clone last minute to avoid being sealed - If you wanna say madara was toying with Tsunade and the others while using all of his kit being woodstyle that is not his, susanoo and rennegan (didn't achieve his rennegan till his deathbed) abilities along with edo tensei hax, you should say the very same for 8 gates guy which madara did nothing and just let guy hit him - No use of woodstyle, no susanoo, no meteors, no rennegan abilities, no limbo clones and didn't make use of hashirama's sage mode that he absorbed - Guy also needed help to even touch madara directly while Tsunade did it on her own while he's attempting to dodge and he got blown up for it.
Tobirama is stronger in my opinion
This was an Itachi glaze fest 😂
Tobirama will dogwalk Itachi
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Itachi is the kunai master he would probably just counter minatos kunai with kunai
Also cant he view the battlefield like pain with his crows? And fight outside of his sussano while its active?
Didnt madara didnt use genjutsus on him since hashirama sage mode could easily manipukate the disrupt the flow of chakraa?
@4:06 Hashirama would insta heal and lariat Itachi into a tree super blitzed
The same fights talked about over and over again. The same 12 characters brought up again and again in these vs matches. Not a diss on you I enjoyed the video it’s just the community as a whole not wanting to talk about anything but the akatsuki or hokage fighting each other lol.
I totally understand, this weeks video is gonna be different.. cross verse time 😏 then the week after I got something similar to other videos but also different
@@TheLightningBlade I love your videos this wasn’t a slight at you it was at the community at large.
@@jakejax8032 nah you’re good man I still understand. That is why I’m planning to do more cross verse stuff as well
Very Biased video. But am not surprised at this point.
The only people Itachi absolutely defeat in that list are Hiruzen, and Kakashi. And he can't defeat Hashirama, Tobirama will beat him 6 out of 4, Tsunade will be a tie (5/5), and Naruto will beat him.
Boruto isn't canon just like Disney's Star Wars isn't canon
Kakashi is too overrated but great video and scaling
Hokage kakashi just blitzes. That's it. It;s 2024. Stop talking about boruto era/hokage kakashi like people should be shocked. It is not controversial anymore
Itachi no diffs tobirama
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healthy itachi= unfollow
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Healthy Itachi= MS Sasuke at best
Boruto? Never heard of it. Must've been some needless filler
Stop cutting ya boi of Dygo 🙄
Loses to Hashirama 10/10 times
Loses to Naruto 10/10 times
Loses to Kakashi 9/10 times
(If you want to use War Arc Kakashi I think they probably split 5/10 times )
Minato wins 7/10 times
Tobirama wins 6/10 times
Itachi beats Hiruzen and Tsunade 10/10 times
Itachi ain't defeating Hiruzen
10:19 are you brainless? Tobirama fought 20+ S ranks shinobi and Ginkaku and Kinkaku who had kyubi chakra. Lol
And most of people forget that they were using rikudo weapon
9:48 tobirama is lack in "QUicK tAcTic" bla bla bla, keep talking like you never see what tobirama does in war arc
You guys realize Itachi has the best kunai feats in the entire series? You can't even count how many he used against Sasuke. He deflected EMS Sasuke's kunai... WITHOUT LOOKING. All it takes it to light 1 kunai on fire and he can spread it to his other kunai like kindling.
And what use is Minato's marking against clones? Speaking of, crow clones use less chakra than normal clones. The guy with the most battle IQ running out of chakra first is a contradiction.
Btw, Itachi has better blindside feats than Minato. And he doesn't even need FTG to accomplish. To answer the age-old question of how fast is Itachi? He's perception-blitzingly fast. He even managed to perception blitz an EMS user and perfect sage. What more do you want?
If you think itachi beats minato then your simply just biasee
Danzo stomps Itachi with ease😂😂
Itachi beats Tsunade and kakashi
Hmmm
@@TochiIguh not kakashi
Itachi doesn't stand a chance against Kakashi
Itach is Not physicly stronger then 5 kage summit sasuke, they ar almost same
Itachi was able to counter Sasuke who summoned his Kunai. He has shown that he could easily counter Minato’s Shuriken with his own Shurikenjutsu without needing to expend chakra. This would also give Itachi a clear viewsight of where Minato is plotting on attacking him from. Itachi also has multiple ways of placing someone under Genjutsu outside his Sharingan and both he and Minato are skilled Shadow Clone Users. Itachi could also one shot Minato who has no knowledge of Tsukuyomi. I think they are equal and comparable.
good thing bros blind
Well, I mean…😅
@@TheLightningBlade ik ik if he isnt he one shots every one besides people with over whelming amount of chakara aka hashirama AND MAYBEEEEE NARUTO even tho it was never said he could brake out
The new name threw me off so hard i forgot your original name
Haha ikr lol it’ll take a while for people to get used to it
About Minato vs Itachi, the only advantage Minato has over Itachi is stamina, but that's irrelevant, because Itachi doesn't waste chakra, he has feats, in excess of reaction speed and body speed, Minato isn't faster than Shisui in body speed, the kunai would never work to get close, because Itachi is a specialist (fighting Sasuke), and a superior 10x more genius then Minato, Itachi genjutsu is like 8 gates taijutsu of level of power in comparison with Madara, obito doesn't try to use genjutsu on his opponents, not even those who had knowledge have never escaped even from his basic genjutsu or even with the teachings of Jiraiya Sensei of Minato, by your analogy Jiraiya also defeats Itachi, since he looked into his eyes with conviction.. About Itachi; What people don't understand is that opponents without knowledge and external powers all lose with the exception of Kaguya and Shisui, until the end of Shippuden. Among the 3 ninja arts: ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu, genjutsu has always been the most dangerous art, because until Madara Rikudo's final move to dominate the world, it was the "infinite genjutsu Tsukuyomi". Itachi literally says to Kakashi, that "only a true heir of the Sharigan with Mangekyou would have a chance against him." At the age of 7, already reasoning as a Hokage, she knew how to infuse chakra without ever having learned, for example; When he saved his mother from a giant rock during the attack of the Nine Tails, he resisted the death genjutsu. At 8 years old without Sharingan (which the jonins on his team could not resist), at age 10 he was already stronger than all the jonins, including Kakashi. Itachi trained on equal terms with Shisui, the fastest ninja in terms of body speed, where his speed was even confused with teleportation (remarkable when his movement was not noticed even by Sharingan users). Itachi must have even copied his techniques, as he copied Kisame's, Water Style, because he trained so much with them. He mastered water, wind and fire in his short life. His potential was always astronomical. After his death, Sasuke tried the medicine his brother took to stay alive, and could not even stand, see, or breathe properly. Even when he was close to his deathbed, he was far superior to Sasuke. His Amaterasu was considered the "most powerful ninjutsu" by Zetsu. Negro, who witnessed the entire history of the ninja world, even by Kabuto Senim Perfect all puffed up, considered him his greatest weapon, even having Madara in his arsenal, before he wanted to undo Kabuto's control, where he had to be nerfed at age 13 (after massacre), because almost no character would survive his techniques, especially Amaterasu, which not even Obito could avoid, as well as Tsukuyomi. After Itachi revealed his legendary weapons, he was considered by Black Zetsu as "invincible" because his weapons had the best attack and best defense in existence. Itachi did not have brute strength, but everything was of the best quality, everything insta-kill if used to its maximum potential. He was also the most intelligent and brilliant person in the entire Naruto universe, with intelligence almost at the maximum level, in the 9 aspects of intelligence, with legendary knowledge about the Uchiras, about Senim mode. Recognized by Hashirama "a shinobi better than me", Danzo (one every hundred years), [Ninja Academy]; there has never been one like him in history, even after Minato's feats. Going so far as to claim that it was the weakness of any jutsu, his chakra control was so absurd that he could do more than double, with half the chakra, evident in the fight against Sasuke Snorted. He also had resistance, as he partially tanked Sasuke's Karin, including having completely destroyed the floor, and his clothes. However, the Uchiha massacre at the age of 13 made him sick in mind (depression) and body (mysterious illness), which discouraged him from trying to evolve or heal himself. He only focused on planning his death from that day on, as he lost the love for his life, until he finally died at the age of 21, where he never showed his maximum potential, only 50% when in Edo Tensei, even so he showed perfect Naruto MK1/Kabuto Senim level taijutsu, otherwise, if his growth continued exponentially; there would be no limits. For example; Some cells (Hashirama) would not even lose to Madara's absurd resistance, Itachi with Hashirama's cells, in addition to becoming ultra powerful, would not have any illness or eye wear, if the narrative were not unfavorable to him, for not being decent straight from the Otsutsukis, he could awaken even the Rinnegan, then he would solo even the aliens... that's why he didn't evolve any further after the age of 13. Because he would surpass Madara, in his strongest form. It is worth remembering that Sasuke's Rinnegan are Itachi's eyes. If Rinnegan were a possibility, he could have a unique ability even better than Sasuke, because his genjutsu already transcends reality, in his novel "Itachi Shinden" it was revealed that his Tsukuyomi breaks the barrier between genjutsu/reality and can literally kill/live entire lives/who knows, even train... awaken mangeko in others... He can also seal his powers, in his hundreds of crows that he can summon, making it impossible to fight with activated vision against him, (Kabuto Senim Perfect knew). He was the greatest prodigy, his qi will probably never be surpassed, but he did not live long enough to reach his peak, but the possibilities were only in the air... like eternal + cells + Senim...
I think Itachi could beat Minato tbh. Itachi has a pretty good move set to counter Minato.
Itachi’s Kunai/Shuriken skills can deflect Minato’s ftg Kunai’s.
Base to base Itachi is relative to Minato in speed.
Minato also has to watch out for genjutsu/Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.
Furthermore Minato can’t break Itachi’s Susano and Minato has to watch out for the Totsuka blade and Yasaka beads.
I like Minato and he is strong, but I think Minato would be overwhelmed especially with them having similar BIQ.
@TheLightningBlade I do want to know your thoughts on the Kunai/Shuriken argument. I did copy and paste this from the community post but no one brings up Itachi’s Kunai skills in deflecting the flying Raijin Kunai for some reason.
You said that Minato has to much going for him but I think the opposite in favor for Itachi.
I have this going 6-7 out of 10 with Itachi winning most of the fights. Of course not Kcm Minato, but alive Hokage Minato.
W vid though.
itachi gets slammed lmao
@@caydenproby can you provide an argument instead?
@@zerox6615 how are they relative in speed ?
@@zerox6615 minato has sage mode and can break out using ftg
@@derekseago9647 Itachi kept up with Kcm1 Naruto with a 3 tomoe Sharingan. The same Kcm Naruto that out ran the Raikage’s fastest punch. So base to base they are relative. Minato is only the fastest ninja when he is using ftg.
Please stop saying Boruto is not canon it's not cool
itachi vs people isnt even fair tbh bros blind af n if he wasnt it would ALSO not be fair cus he would insta win XD