And just watch buying parts from Riga, Latvia. The scam going on there is that you pay for your parts using Paypal, but the seller doesn't actually own the part or have it in stock. There's a 14 day wait until they maybe send the part because they have to go out & import it first & then they charge three times the going price. The Ebay user name is rm-parts. Be very careful!
Fantastic overview of manufacturers and suppliers! I hope I can find someone who has done a similar video for UK available OEM parts. We seem to have the same mish-mash of makes without too much information about where stuff is actually made or relative quality. E.g. a blower fan for a 2008 'c' class can be from Ridex, Mahle, NRF, Valeo, AKS Dasis, Febi Bilstein etc. Prices vary from about £50 to £180 .... maybe I'll just repair the old one (again!)
I'm in the process of reviving a 85 300sd that has sat for 4 years..great info! I appreciate what you are doing here on this channel. No hype, just straight talk.keep it up!
Great info! I just want to clarify, Pelican Parts has actually saved my butt on more than a couple occasions. I own a 1990 300D, they had the diesel shut down valve for a fraction what the MB dealer listed as discontinued. They had the correct pcv valve/tube, and window doors. Okay shipping sucks, and so does converting usd into cad. Rock Auto, amazon, ebay, have been decent as well.
Very good quick summary, much appreciated. I agree on Meyle and Uro - I only buy their static and easy to replace parts - nothing electrical or mechanical, bump stops for a air cleaner, sure why not.
Amen, brother... I sold my dealership many years ago, but I've kept up with things. I would never buy ANY "Mercedes" parts made in China, and very few that weren't made in Germany or Austria. "Cheap" and "quality" are mutually-exclusive terms when it comes to parts for Mercedes Benz automobiles; you almost always get exactly what you pay for. And I despise eBay - lots of overppriced, poor quality parts and lots of sellers who either lie about their items or simply have no knowledge.
I have tried most aftermarket brands (URO, Febi, Meyle, Lemfoerder) in my W123 and the only thing that didn’t work was an oil cap made by dt parts. Even the URO antenna mast is working properly after years of use. I really don’t have any complain about those parts. Most times the problem with aftermarket parts is the people installing them or the way the car is driven.
I was thinking of consulting you anytime I needed to buy a part!you seem to be getting more first-hand experience with this stuff than anybody on my channel!
Great video, really needed. It’s such a confusing mess out there determining what brand is OEM supplier or at least high quality aftermarket as an alternative to the MB brand.
Thoughts on aftermarket chain tensioners on 116/117 engines? My mechanic who is a Mercedes mechanic of 48 years (took over his fathers repair only dealer that opened up in 1961) says he doesn't see any difference between the aftermarket units he has put in many cars versus the genuine unit which is 4x the price. Going to be taking my new-to-me 89 560SL in for the timing chain and works later this year because 116/117 timing chains give me anxiety (I've done one before as a shade tree mechanic but I'd rather drink bleach than do another). The mechanic is willing to put in the genuine one if I prefer it but is there really a point if there's no benefit? Also, fun fact, on the W201 Febi is the only manufacturer available currently for driveshaft center carriers just like on the W123. I replaced mine on my former daily driven 190E 2.6 and I think it's started to act up again after a year and 17000 miles. Don't buy URO fuel pump relays btw, I had one melt into it's socket once. With so many of these cars in the junk yard, the best way to handle the always present potential FPR failure is to just go to a pick and pull and grab a bunch (in addition to those ice cube relays in the fuse box).
with the chain tensioner u gotta go genuine....plenty of threads on it....the chain and cam gears u can get aftermarket because mercedes use isis chain and fag gears
The quality control I have seen for my 300sl have been poor at the aftermarket places. A crankshaft sensor from Pelican has given me great difficulty. Anything ignition related I will buy only genuine Mercedes Benz.
Hello Pierre I recently purchased a 1983 240D w123. needs some work but will be worth it. Love the car and your youtube videos. Very informative. I need to source a replacement Driveshaft its a Manual 4 speed. any clues on where to find Thank you Vincent Boston Mass
Hey Pierre. I have a 1989 c126 euro spec triy. I just need interior cpanel leather cover plastic. 100 buck just 8 years ago...nothing. all c126 need this part. Nobody has it. Sucks. Anybody got a unbroken set that could be 3d printed?
The parts search definitely is a headache. I want the best for my Mercedes but dont want to pay dealer prices for everything. I love FCP euro but their febi engine mounts looked really really bad. I got a nos mahle mounts on Ebay with dealer sticker on them. Great deal. But what is the best m117 engine mount?
@@thisisnightshop2037 that's really good to know as I'm doing an engine out service on my 560 to replace every seal and gasket and vac line. I'd be really dumb to not do the mounts with the motor out. And the mounts being the same as a 617 turbo. I had no idea
I have to say the Lemförder mounts, with "S11" stamped on them! I believe these are specified for a 560SEL, but I use them on everything from M103 to the OM617, always with perfect results.
I have been looking for about 2 months for lifters/cam followers for my 1987 300sdl om603. All I have found is made in china of Chineseium. Any suggestions 🤔. I refuse to put china in my mercedes.
I've always been afraid to use after market parts on my benz because Mercedes doesn't like cheap gas and cheap parts from my experience and my car is old so I'm really cautious with it 😬 2002 Mercedes E320 4Matic 155,000 miles on it. And if your car says Premium Fuel Only its for a reason one time I tried to be cheap and my car was like " Ok you wanna be cheap and drive a benz then I'm gonna show you what it feels like and i thought my engine was going to jump out and once its burned out miraculously my engine went back to normal. If your gonna own a benz its an investment for up keep even an older one like mine so if you don't want to invest in up keep DO NOT get a benz but if you do plan on keeping everything on point with the vehicle than a Mercedes can last a very long time and make an awesome vehicle.. That car is a beast in the snow with good tires vs many other AWD vehicles I have driven.. RWD version however is terrible I dont know why they botherd putting a winter mode in the RWD version thats gonna slide in the snow anyways... 😡 I would never buy a benz unless its AWD.
Everyone with experience should post: Brand - Part - failure - and after what time/mileage. Let me start: FEBI - front swaybar kit - rubber is cracking after just 1 year and 3000 miles.
Pierre - My subframe bushings for my '86 W126 have deteriorated rubber. Was just quoted $1,300 to replace both sides. Can just the rubber be replaced, or do I really need the whole arm / bushing? Either way, what supplier(s) is my best bet? Thanks so much.
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Selahattin, the guy in Turkey who sells reproduction dash pads and some rubber parts for W110/111/108/114 cars does a good job. Febi is typically a reboxer these day and the stuff is lousy. Of course, avoid URO at all costs...
I bought a W123 rear stabilizer bar link from Mercedes-Benz...the part nr on the sealed bag was genuine MB with sticker as usual but when I opened the bag and had a close look on the link, it was a Febi brand....are MB now selling Febi but with their part nr and sticker on it? Would like to hear your experience with this...thanks.
This is very interesting. Once in awhile I will find brands like this in Mercedes boxes.it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad though. Febi also sells the same drive shaft flex discs that Mercedes
I wish y'all would put these recommendations in the show notes sometimes. I had to email you recently to get justdashes.com because I couldn't remember which video it was in. Anyway, we could bookmark the links directly from the show notes and send you less email.
Lol, I just got w126 lemforder tie rod in the mail today...replace the one I put in last year.can't remember what brand!?!?? Are lemforder not lasting?
I think I used about 4 of the mentioned suppliers. An eBay supplier that I found had amazing service and parts availability for w124 is the seller partscontainer. For a daily driver they have very fast shipping which is needed sometimes. Great topic.
anything and everything I have bought from parts container has never showed up and ended with a refund. They advertise a lot of parts that they don't actually have inventory of. I'm glad that somebody has managed to get service.
The URO "Green Wire" on 380SEL, 500SEL etc is just a mess. I went through two that didnt work right out of the box, and even after modifying and repairing, they STILL would only make the engine cough and sputter. It took going to a junkyard and getting a distributor from a wrecked car with a green wire that was original and falling apart to make the car run! Once we put that in, it ran flawlessly! Stay away from the URO GREEN WIRES!!!
Mercedes Benz discontinued most parts for the W123 chassis, can't even get an OEM tie rods , forced to go with aftermarket parts, Mercedes Benz claimed to have the largest and best classic car parts support,WRONG
Years ago, 1990's and before, you could walk into Mercedes Benz parts and order any part for any model year. They would order it for you from Germany and Europe. For the very older models the factory would reproduce the part. Its been years now I have not owned a MB and things, international trade have changed drastically. Many cheapos around.
And just watch buying parts from Riga, Latvia. The scam going on there is that you pay for your parts using Paypal, but the seller doesn't actually own the part or have it in stock. There's a 14 day wait until they maybe send the part because they have to go out & import it first & then they charge three times the going price. The Ebay user name is rm-parts. Be very careful!
Fantastic overview of manufacturers and suppliers! I hope I can find someone who has done a similar video for UK available OEM parts. We seem to have the same mish-mash of makes without too much information about where stuff is actually made or relative quality. E.g. a blower fan for a 2008 'c' class can be from Ridex, Mahle, NRF, Valeo, AKS Dasis, Febi Bilstein etc. Prices vary from about £50 to £180 .... maybe I'll just repair the old one (again!)
I love this video!!! Already sent it on to everyone I know with an older Benz
I'm in the process of reviving a 85 300sd that has sat for 4 years..great info! I appreciate what you are doing here on this channel. No hype, just straight talk.keep it up!
Great info!
I just want to clarify, Pelican Parts has actually saved my butt on more than a couple occasions.
I own a 1990 300D, they had the diesel shut down valve for a fraction what the MB dealer listed as discontinued.
They had the correct pcv valve/tube, and window doors.
Okay shipping sucks, and so does converting usd into cad.
Rock Auto, amazon, ebay, have been decent as well.
Very good quick summary, much appreciated. I agree on Meyle and Uro - I only buy their static and easy to replace parts - nothing electrical or mechanical, bump stops for a air cleaner, sure why not.
What brand brake pads and rotors would you go with on my 1988 560 sel?
There's always a hater 🤦🏿♂️. Why dislike this great advice?
URO rubber is junk. Meyle is junk. OE is best followed by Lemforder! Please please share more parts wisdom!
Priceless video, many thanks
Great video! Short, sweet and to the point from an expert! Nice job!!!
Amen, brother... I sold my dealership many years ago, but I've kept up with things. I would never buy ANY "Mercedes" parts made in China, and very few that weren't made in Germany or Austria. "Cheap" and "quality" are mutually-exclusive terms when it comes to parts for Mercedes Benz automobiles; you almost always get exactly what you pay for. And I despise eBay - lots of overppriced, poor quality parts and lots of sellers who either lie about their items or simply have no knowledge.
I have tried most aftermarket brands (URO, Febi, Meyle, Lemfoerder) in my W123 and the only thing that didn’t work was an oil cap made by dt parts. Even the URO antenna mast is working properly after years of use. I really don’t have any complain about those parts. Most times the problem with aftermarket parts is the people installing them or the way the car is driven.
In our climate, the uro antenna rusts but otherwise I agree with you. It's actually pretty good
I am definitely asking you before I buy anything other than a light bulb... even then!
Even the wrong light bulb can burn your lense
I was thinking of consulting you anytime I needed to buy a part!you seem to be getting more first-hand experience with this stuff than anybody on my channel!
newton raymond yes you are correct. Have to choose the right wattage.
Heard Corteco is a good brand for motor mounts ?
Hi, I am looking for Radiator condenser water pump for 2014 G63 amg
thanks
Great video, really needed. It’s such a confusing mess out there determining what brand is OEM supplier or at least high quality aftermarket as an alternative to the MB brand.
500 e forum also did a thread on good and bad parts....this correlated well
nice! i saw that too.
Thoughts on aftermarket chain tensioners on 116/117 engines? My mechanic who is a Mercedes mechanic of 48 years (took over his fathers repair only dealer that opened up in 1961) says he doesn't see any difference between the aftermarket units he has put in many cars versus the genuine unit which is 4x the price. Going to be taking my new-to-me 89 560SL in for the timing chain and works later this year because 116/117 timing chains give me anxiety (I've done one before as a shade tree mechanic but I'd rather drink bleach than do another). The mechanic is willing to put in the genuine one if I prefer it but is there really a point if there's no benefit?
Also, fun fact, on the W201 Febi is the only manufacturer available currently for driveshaft center carriers just like on the W123. I replaced mine on my former daily driven 190E 2.6 and I think it's started to act up again after a year and 17000 miles.
Don't buy URO fuel pump relays btw, I had one melt into it's socket once. With so many of these cars in the junk yard, the best way to handle the always present potential FPR failure is to just go to a pick and pull and grab a bunch (in addition to those ice cube relays in the fuse box).
It's too big a risk to use an aftermarket chain tensioner
its better to spend $460.00 to save $3,000. don't try to save money on stuff that could fail in a big way.
with the chain tensioner u gotta go genuine....plenty of threads on it....the chain and cam gears u can get aftermarket because mercedes use isis chain and fag gears
The quality control I have seen for my 300sl have been poor at the aftermarket places. A crankshaft sensor from Pelican has given me great difficulty. Anything ignition related I will buy only genuine Mercedes Benz.
Thank you for this video, can you make another video on the current aftermarket stuff please; just bought a benz clk amg
Hello Pierre
I recently purchased a 1983 240D w123. needs some work but will be worth it. Love the car and your youtube videos. Very informative. I need to source a replacement Driveshaft its a Manual 4 speed. any clues on where to find Thank you Vincent Boston Mass
Can you supply me with a fuel accumulater for Mercedes 380se v8 wdb 126
Hey Pierre.
I have a 1989 c126 euro spec triy.
I just need interior cpanel leather cover plastic. 100 buck just 8 years ago...nothing. all c126 need this part. Nobody has it. Sucks.
Anybody got a unbroken set that could be 3d printed?
Great info Pierre. 👍
The parts search definitely is a headache. I want the best for my Mercedes but dont want to pay dealer prices for everything. I love FCP euro but their febi engine mounts looked really really bad. I got a nos mahle mounts on Ebay with dealer sticker on them. Great deal. But what is the best m117 engine mount?
Lemforder sells the OEM Mercedes mounts that are made by Phoenix.
Also, the amounts for your m117 r the same as a 617 turbo
@@thisisnightshop2037 that's really good to know as I'm doing an engine out service on my 560 to replace every seal and gasket and vac line. I'd be really dumb to not do the mounts with the motor out. And the mounts being the same as a 617 turbo. I had no idea
I have to say the Lemförder mounts, with "S11" stamped on them! I believe these are specified for a 560SEL, but I use them on everything from M103 to the OM617, always with perfect results.
you hit the nail on the head, JW
...great post! Thanks :)
Who do you recommend too have your Mercedes Benz replacement parts programed?
I have been looking for about 2 months for lifters/cam followers for my 1987
300sdl om603. All I have found is made in china of Chineseium. Any suggestions 🤔. I refuse to put china in my mercedes.
I've always been afraid to use after market parts on my benz because Mercedes doesn't like cheap gas and cheap parts from my experience and my car is old so I'm really cautious with it 😬 2002 Mercedes E320 4Matic 155,000 miles on it. And if your car says Premium Fuel Only its for a reason one time I tried to be cheap and my car was like " Ok you wanna be cheap and drive a benz then I'm gonna show you what it feels like and i thought my engine was going to jump out and once its burned out miraculously my engine went back to normal. If your gonna own a benz its an investment for up keep even an older one like mine so if you don't want to invest in up keep DO NOT get a benz but if you do plan on keeping everything on point with the vehicle than a Mercedes can last a very long time and make an awesome vehicle.. That car is a beast in the snow with good tires vs many other AWD vehicles I have driven.. RWD version however is terrible I dont know why they botherd putting a winter mode in the RWD version thats gonna slide in the snow anyways... 😡 I would never buy a benz unless its AWD.
Super,, fantastic heads up
any aftermarket valve covers for the m113 engine?
Everyone with experience should post: Brand - Part - failure - and after what time/mileage.
Let me start: FEBI - front swaybar kit - rubber is cracking after just 1 year and 3000 miles.
I bought the lemforder front end parts and they seem good
Have replaced many Febi parts... I agree.
Do like ATE and have used FAG.
Great video!! Any experience with Maxilite wheels?
Pierre - My subframe bushings for my '86 W126 have deteriorated rubber. Was just quoted $1,300 to replace both sides. Can just the rubber be replaced, or do I really need the whole arm / bushing? Either way, what supplier(s) is my best bet? Thanks so much.
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By signing in our Patreon www.patreon.com/thomaspolk page and making a donation of $10 your are assured of a 24 hour email response from Pierre.
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Selahattin, the guy in Turkey who sells reproduction dash pads and some rubber parts for W110/111/108/114 cars does a good job. Febi is typically a reboxer these day and the stuff is lousy. Of course, avoid URO at all costs...
yes he is doing pretty good with his stuff that is not a rubber seal
I bought a W123 rear stabilizer bar link from Mercedes-Benz...the part nr on the sealed bag was genuine MB with sticker as usual but when I opened the bag and had a close look on the link, it was a Febi brand....are MB now selling Febi but with their part nr and sticker on it? Would like to hear your experience with this...thanks.
This is very interesting. Once in awhile I will find brands like this in Mercedes boxes.it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad though. Febi also sells the same drive shaft flex discs that Mercedes
Parts Authority is selling good brands.
I wish y'all would put these recommendations in the show notes sometimes. I had to email you recently to get justdashes.com because I couldn't remember which video it was in. Anyway, we could bookmark the links directly from the show notes and send you less email.
i am averse to doing the extra work....sorry
Lol, I just got w126 lemforder tie rod in the mail today...replace the one I put in last year.can't remember what brand!?!?? Are lemforder not lasting?
Lemforder are awesome. they make the parts for MB.
The whole tie rod ends were cheaper from Mercedes than elsewhere
amazing info !
thank you!
I think I used about 4 of the mentioned suppliers. An eBay supplier that I found had amazing service and parts availability for w124 is the seller partscontainer. For a daily driver they have very fast shipping which is needed sometimes. Great topic.
anything and everything I have bought from parts container has never showed up and ended with a refund. They advertise a lot of parts that they don't actually have inventory of. I'm glad that somebody has managed to get service.
parts containers advertises a lot of stuff that they don't actually have in stock.
Yikes! That’s not good.
eBay has a lot of genuine looking parts that are conterfit copies... short lived reject parts. 🙄
The URO "Green Wire" on 380SEL, 500SEL etc is just a mess. I went through two that didnt work right out of the box, and even after modifying and repairing, they STILL would only make the engine cough and sputter. It took going to a junkyard and getting a distributor from a wrecked car with a green wire that was original and falling apart to make the car run! Once we put that in, it ran flawlessly! Stay away from the URO GREEN WIRES!!!
Good to know. I got one for my 450slc and did not have any issues with it, but now I see the insulation going
@@thisisnightshop2037 Youre kidding! Consider yourself lucky on that one! :)
i need some parts of Mercedes Benz 1962 old model so plzz rply my comment..
Monark NLA😭 606.910
I am looking for a 1993 300ce convertible top control module. #1248204026. PLEASE HELP! Have looked everywhere that I can think of.
Lost audio more than three times once for 30 seconds.
I hope Thomas sees this.
Audio was great for me!
Don’t forget that apple products are made in China. Labor is pretty cheap there.
Mercedes Benz discontinued most parts for the W123 chassis, can't even get an OEM tie rods , forced to go with aftermarket parts, Mercedes Benz claimed to have the largest and best classic car parts support,WRONG
Years ago, 1990's and before, you could walk into Mercedes Benz parts and order any part for any model year. They would order it for you from Germany and Europe. For the very older models the factory would reproduce the part.
Its been years now I have not owned a MB and things, international trade have changed drastically. Many cheapos around.
I don't know who you're ordering parts from, but the 123 tie rods are still available. You can also use the 126 tierod.
tie rods for 123s are still available. I order them every month. I think the dealer you are working with might be the issue/.
SKF rear wheel bearings used to be good. Now made in china