Can we DIY an Industrial grade CNC?

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  • Опубліковано 3 тра 2022
  • The next episode in the CNC adventure: • Learning to use an ind...
    This video: Making a big 'industrial performance' CNC router, that will hopefully mill metals.
    The spindle motor in the video is a 240V single phase Jianken JGL-100mm 3.2kw 24000rpm BT30 ATC. It has ceramic bearings and thus far seems very very nice. We chose a 4 pole one, which has somewhat more torque at lower rpm than the 2 pole, but requires an 800Hz VFD. We will do a whole video on the spindle in the future. You can find them here: jianken.en.alibaba.com/ and if you do buy from them, message them and mention 'Flowering Elbow' to get yourself a discount!
    The next CNC video pushing the limits of this machine: • Learning to use an ind...
    This CNC machine needs to earn its place in the workshop, so the plan is to make something that can cut 8 x 4 ft sheets and flatten big chainsaw milled slabs, as well as machine aluminum and steel parts.
    Making the unorthodox gantry video: • Experiments in Gantry ...
    Casting and making the z-axis video: • Bigger castings, melti...
    The washing machine speed control circuit video is here: • How to reuse Washing M...
    More videos on the CNC on our other channel FE4SuperNerds - / @floweringelbow4supern...
    If you would like to play with the 3D model of this machine you can get it if you buy us a coffee here: ko-fi.com/floweringelbow/shop
    Metalized epoxy guide: ko-fi.com/s/bb8cbd72e1
    The spindle motor in the video is a 240V single phase Jianken JGL-100mm 3.2kw 24000rpm BT30 ATC. It has ceramic bearings and thus far seems very very nice. We chose a 4 pole one, which has somewhat more torque at lower rpm than the 2 pole, but requires an 800Hz VFD. We will do a whole video on the spindle in the future. You can find them here: jianken.en.alibaba.com/ and if you do buy from them, message them and mention 'Flowering Elbow' to get yourself a discount!
    If you want to check out Frank's avid CNC videos look here: • The CNC Build: Part 1:... and for • Building DIY CNC Route... T-slot extrusion machine, see here: • Building DIY CNC Route...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 966

  • @rsc4peace971
    @rsc4peace971 Рік тому +88

    As a retired Ph.D. material scientist, I have not seen or heard a better "documentary" of an EPIC machine built using upcycled parts, countless STEM principles explained while actually doing it to a working machine that is just a showcase piece for anyone watching it. Somehow every time I come across such work by folks out there (a team of 2 in your case) it is awe-inspiring to know we have come a long way from having to rely on cumbersome or even unattainable ways to share/seek knowhow even within a select community. The world is a much better place with so much sharing of a lot of good (of course with many BAAD) contents, we are at warp speed in learning collectively across this planet.
    BTW, I am a woodworking hobbyist and came upon your chainsaw mill book which I bought. Thanks for such captivating content, of which I am a fan (oh an addict).

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  Рік тому +10

      Well thank you so much, for you kind and encouraging words and upholding and supporting Sam and me (and our wacky projects) by buying the book. Really hope you find it useful. Thanks again 😊

    • @drmvh
      @drmvh 2 місяці тому +1

      @@FloweringElbow the book?
      Oh and "my tendency to over-engineer" hahahahaha 😆

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 місяці тому

      @drmvh not on CNC. They bought our chainsaw milling ebook - avaliable on our kofi page 😉

    • @drmvh
      @drmvh 2 місяці тому

      @@FloweringElbow ah, thanks.... great over engineering btw, though if it is over engineering is debatable, I like it

  • @BuildSomethingAuto
    @BuildSomethingAuto 2 роки тому +143

    Brilliant. Speaking as an engineer, I know PLENTY of engineers that wouldnt have done half as good a job as you did. Very well done!

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +4

      Good morning. Really appreciate that friend :)

    • @drafty0183
      @drafty0183 Рік тому +2

      As a Fitting and Machining apprentice (I'm in my 50s and retraining after doing CAD work for years), I work on CNC machining centres quite a bit, (look at Okuma products about 20 years old; MC66, MC60, MC55, etc), which use G-code to drive them.
      We do machining of metals (Aluminium, cast iron, mild steel, and some tool steels) routinely, and it's generally done with slower feeds and speeds than what you showed here (and jets of coolant for some of these) to enable the bits to last through a production run. All power to your machine, it is absolutely brilliant what you've achieved.

    • @minimovzEt
      @minimovzEt 10 місяців тому +5

      @bivingtons the kind that doesn't have any fabrication experience, it is pretty normal, engineers don't learn how to square two beams and weld it without heat distortion at college, they learn how to calculate the weld stress limit and the structure stress limit.

    • @cncwoodcrafofficial
      @cncwoodcrafofficial 10 місяців тому +1

      good job keep it up.

  • @christophersmith108
    @christophersmith108 2 роки тому +86

    I’m just speechless. I have no words adequate to properly describe my admiration for your vision, your fortitude, or your capabilities. I’m going to be studying and referring to this video many times. Thanks for putting such extra effort into your build that it took to create it.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +4

      Hey Christopher, thanks man :) Any questions just ask ;)

    • @deadprivacy
      @deadprivacy 2 роки тому +7

      ive watched a lot of youtube builds.
      and i dont think ive ever seen something quite so ambitious , well constructed, ingenious, meticulous, stoic, thrifty, inspiring, fun, inventive, educational, quirky, bold, haphazrad by design and therefore excellent and cheap.
      there are some words.
      i too cannot blow enough smoke up this fellas arse.
      just brilliant.
      the video making isnt bad either?!?!?!?
      you would usually trade off bad editing or a little confusion of how the rabbit came out of the hat for such technical insight, but nope.
      i just want to see the look on the scrap mans face in 40 years when it finally gets scrapped. lol
      he will swear at you like no other human has ever done

  • @larrylund2682
    @larrylund2682 Рік тому +6

    .00005 - .00002 vertical lines on radius cuts are about as good as it used to be for expensive CNC machine tools circa 1992. It is a circular interpolation issue. If you have the ability to change the calibration a visibly smooth radius may be possible. Good luck with that. The harder the metal the worse this issue is. But, functionally the parts are not likely to suffer this imperfection. I was working with inconel at the time for US military contract applications. I am amazed you were able to built this machine in such a small space. You must be a genius or very close to that level of understanding and abilities. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @JayBates
    @JayBates 2 роки тому +99

    This build is incredible. Such a great effort investment to your workflow. Huge kudos to you. Wow.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +10

      Hey Jay, you wont remember this, but years ago, as a long term subscriber of yours, you gave me some advice about making videos for youtube. I very much appreciated that, and it means a lot to me to get a comment like that from you :D Thanks!

    • @JayBates
      @JayBates 2 роки тому +7

      @@FloweringElbow Glad to hear that :) Have a wonderful day.

  • @IainMcClatchie
    @IainMcClatchie 10 місяців тому +8

    The rotating ball nut is a critical and fantastic idea.
    The inertia of the rotating ballscrew is definitely a limiter to accelerating the gantry in Y, but there's a bigger problem: The ballscrew is unstable in sag. As it sags more, the centripetal force from rotating throws the sag out more. This places an RPM limit on the rotating ballscrew than decreases quadratically with length. That limits the speed of traverse in Y.
    It's too late now, but for folks thinking about building CNCs of this size, especially with concrete or epoxy granite damped frames, you might want to consider casting in tubing. By circulating water and controlling the temperature of that circulated water, you can limit the thermal expansion of the frame and ballscrews. Some ballscrews are available hollow. Circulating coolant through a ballscrew is a heck of a lot easier when it isn't rotating.
    Note that coolant is a bit of a misnomer. There isn't generally a lot of heat input to the frame and ballscrews. Rather you want them to stay the same temperature, day or night, season to season.

  • @zeendaniels5809
    @zeendaniels5809 Рік тому +4

    Dude... For not having "formal engineering education" you really killed it. That was some next level (no pun intended) of attention to detail.
    It's an awesome machine, and you are an awesome craftsman.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  Рік тому

      Hey Zeen,
      really appreciate the encouragement, thanks :D

  • @pocket83
    @pocket83 2 роки тому +28

    Pure tenacity. Enjoyed every minute. The scale of this project was next-level. Congratulations on its success. You are top-tier creative, and now with this thing, the sky's the limit!

  • @briansimpson6710
    @briansimpson6710 2 роки тому +58

    if you need to do a self-leveling epoxy again, use the vibration rig. also works for floating more liquid concrete/cement mixes. Vibration can help evenly spread the epoxy. out by repeatedly breaking the surface tensions

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +23

      Hey Brian, that seems like a great tip. and I'm kicking myself that I didn't think of it at the time! Thanks for watching and the good idea :)

    • @d00dEEE
      @d00dEEE 2 роки тому +6

      On a similar vein, I was surprised that the vibrator wasn't used during the compacting phase when installing the concrete damping.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +12

      @@d00dEEE I DID actually try that, to no avail. the concrete seemed just too stiff (and massive) to liquify with that single motor...

    • @d00dEEE
      @d00dEEE 2 роки тому +8

      @@FloweringElbow Ah, that makes sense. And now that I think about it, the concrete mass was changing the harmonics (probably a lot), too, so that likely introduced enough damping that the vibrator was no longer effective...

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +5

      @@d00dEEE yeah - in fact I think that's why it didn't cross my mind when it came to the epoxy..

  • @TrevorDennis100
    @TrevorDennis100 2 роки тому +17

    I have seen a few such machines on UA-cam, Frank Howarth being the most notable, but I have never seen a DIY system machine steel. It did so with no apparent chatter or issues of any kind, although you were wise to clear the swarth with those small cutters. I am seriously impressed, and I want to give that some context by saying I am a retired toolmaker and design engineer, so I have a feeling for the issues you faced and overcame. Very impressed indeed.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +2

      Hey Trevor, thanks man - that made me smile, it sure was a lot of work :)

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 роки тому +5

      This Old Tony made a CNC machine that could mill steel. He still ended up CNCing a real milling machine though. There's really no replacement for cast iron dovetails.

  • @Kyokahnn
    @Kyokahnn Рік тому +2

    It's amazing how broad and deep the scope of knowledge needed to build a good CNC is. I remember building one out of plywood a few years ago, torsion boxes to maintain rigidity because "aluminum is too expensive to make this rigid enough", skipping things that I felt entirely out of reach at the moment and simplifying as much as possible. Mind you, it was just a 90x90cm CNC for wood and some aluminum, with SBR rails that required less precision and much less force to manage. It wasn't a good CNC, it worked but every bit I knowingly skipped came to bite me in the butt.
    It was a nightmare and a love project at the same time, took me months all in all. Had to learn a bunch of stuff on quite a few fields of knowledge. As and engineer and lifetime geek with experience in manual work and machining, it wasn't nearly enough.
    What you've done is truly astounding. No single path can prepare you for that, plenty of engineers would fail to even grasp the full complexity of the project. It truly takes a jack-of-all-trades and master of several to pull this off. Hat's off to you. Now I wanna see this machine making some thick chips hahah

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  Рік тому +1

      Hey Franklin, After being pushed and pulled to quite a lot of other non-CNC-related jobs, I was finally getting some time to play with it today. Enough to say it didn't go exactly as I would have liked, but somewhat pleasing nonetheless. Soooo much to learn, as you say... Your comment cheered me a lot and lessened my feeling of inadequacy for still being near the bottom of this learning curve. Sometimes I get so focused on the tasks at hand... It's nice to think back to all that's already been accomplished from time to time :)
      Thanks for watching, and thanks especially for your encouragement,
      Bongo.

    • @Kyokahnn
      @Kyokahnn Рік тому +1

      @@FloweringElbow happens a lot, we often get pulled to do stuff that isn't exactly what we want or expected at the moment.
      Man, you went all out on this one, issues are pretty much a given when it's all added up, but you can work it out.
      Even companies with engineering/QA teams and big budgets often ship flawed machines and nobody bats an eye.

  • @KoenBrader
    @KoenBrader Рік тому +3

    As someone who has built a 4x2 ft router/plasma table using Alu extrusion, then converted a mill to CNC, I am very impressed. Subscribed.

  • @christosvolikakis1523
    @christosvolikakis1523 2 роки тому +3

    Its rare to see someone with such a grasp of engineering, ingenuity, and tooling skills. Cheers!

  • @dingdingdingdiiiiing
    @dingdingdingdiiiiing 2 роки тому +4

    2:16 let me just say at this point, that there is a hell of a lot of measuring that went into this, there have to be right angles all over and you're not in your CAD, you have to hold it tight or it will move, it's all by sight and welding also does it's thing and you have to take that into account.
    What a monster of a project, I'm in awe.

  • @LunchThyme
    @LunchThyme Рік тому +2

    10:00 That was just about the kindest crane fail a man could hope for. I'd have been buying a lotto ticket after that.

  • @markdodge9190
    @markdodge9190 Місяць тому +1

    No words to described how impress I'm, thanks for sharing.

  • @AddictedtoProjects
    @AddictedtoProjects 2 роки тому +10

    You should be absolutely PROUD of having achieved all of this. It's truly astonishing how much you've accomplished there!! Not only did you build a solid and very sturdy machine, but you also mastered a ton of individual tecniques in the process, to help you get there. I am thoroughly impressed! :)

  • @MgBaggg
    @MgBaggg 2 роки тому +22

    What a monster of a project with an amazing end result, excellent job! looking forward to more

  • @user-tc2ky6fg2o
    @user-tc2ky6fg2o 2 роки тому +4

    IMO you are one of the few builders who understand/feel the importance of the mass and rigidity, I liked it! And the best proof of it is the ability to cut steel with an acceptable material removal rate and result. 👏

  • @jooch_exe
    @jooch_exe Рік тому +3

    The mind is probably the most powerful tool to have.

  • @imconsequetau5275
    @imconsequetau5275 2 роки тому +16

    7:30 shrinking issues will be minimized by using _hydrophilic_ fiber in the mix. This additive releases moisture back into the cement gradually, compensating for excess moisture loss from the porous or exposed surfaces. Of course, placing a waterproof coating on the exposed surface, like wax spray or plastic film, also helps.

  • @muzzarobbo
    @muzzarobbo 2 роки тому +5

    Best DIY machine video and build i have seen! seems like a really good blend of time, money and engineering!
    Thankyou!

  • @BadgerLaser
    @BadgerLaser 3 місяці тому +1

    Crikey you're not messing about with that beast are you ?! really ace build and to document the whole process.... thanks for sharing

  • @ericstrickling1933
    @ericstrickling1933 Рік тому +1

    I'm thoroughly impressed. I'm definitely waiting for your next video.

  • @jacksplague3050
    @jacksplague3050 Рік тому +4

    Wow... This is an impressive feat of engineering, a glorious display of patience and perseverance, and overall one of the best DIY videos that I've ever seen. You my friend are an inspiration.

  • @benhobby17
    @benhobby17 2 роки тому +17

    This thing is insane! Builds like this help me keep motivation on my own CNC build. Awesome.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 роки тому

      Making a CNC machine is always a lot harder than one may initially think it is going to be.

  • @craigmcinnes1212
    @craigmcinnes1212 Рік тому +1

    this is a thing of absolute beauty in so many ways. The machine, your patience, your attitude, your attention to detail, your idea generation. I built my own semi-pro CNC, but this is so many levels above. Total masterpiece. You have every right to be proud.

  • @andynichols3464
    @andynichols3464 Рік тому +2

    "my natural inclination to over build" I felt this.

  • @JamesWHurst
    @JamesWHurst 2 роки тому +10

    Okay - *this* has to be the coolest video I've seen in some time. Absolutely top: fascinating, informative, entertaining, so well done!! You're incredibly clever and clearly quite expert in these topics. Thank you, for creating and sharing this!

  • @JAYTEEAU
    @JAYTEEAU Рік тому +5

    Absolutely fascinating. I love the trials, tribulations and problem solving of this video. Using a modified concrete is genius. Tremendous effort. Cheers, JAYTEE

  • @johnhamfirst
    @johnhamfirst 2 роки тому +1

    That is amazing. Thank you for sharing your journey. You have so much resilience!

  • @ducatista1098s
    @ducatista1098s 9 місяців тому +1

    The real MVP is that taper-length 2mm drill. Cant believe it made 50 holes

  • @jamesgibb9737
    @jamesgibb9737 2 роки тому +4

    Truly wonderful. I'm so impressed and really looking forward to all the wonderful things you'll make with this. It's really been an odyssey making this and a joy to watch. Thank you for the inspiration and taking us along for the journey.

  • @OleBrinch
    @OleBrinch 2 роки тому +10

    That has to be one of the most cool and interesting DIY builds ever. You had my interest when you build the gantry. I LOVE how what you can get defines much of the design. I can't really wait until you show us more. I also work on limited budget and use a lot of scrap parts, but still go for high quality and precision cuts on my next build. One of my biggest problems is how to make straight mounting surfaces for the rails, when I have no straight reference. I would love to se more of your experience with epoxy leveling.

  • @bobfugazy4916
    @bobfugazy4916 Рік тому +1

    All I have to say is wow. Thank you so much for sharing that. This will encourage many to attempt their own projects of this magnitude.

  • @DgtalBreakz
    @DgtalBreakz 7 місяців тому +1

    Without realizing it, I found myself smiling like an idiot at such simple yet super effective building methods. Truly inspiring mate, thanks a lot for the video.

  • @dev-debug
    @dev-debug 2 роки тому +3

    Going with the rotating ball nut was the key to success. I think too many throw money at problems, amazing build and patience. The steel milling finish was impressive.

  • @theot6713
    @theot6713 2 роки тому +5

    this is so absolutely fantastic! in the depths of my own cnc adventure and its so cool to see different solutions to the problems all who choose the cool kids path face. amazing job man :)

  • @IvanGreguricOrtolan
    @IvanGreguricOrtolan Рік тому +1

    Man, the quality of work here is astonishing!

  • @joshwarner5676
    @joshwarner5676 2 роки тому +2

    This is awesome! Super cool to see it cutting steel and cast iron.
    Would love to see an extended cut.
    I look forward to seeing more!

  • @gary_glover
    @gary_glover 2 роки тому +3

    Beautiful project! Amazing build! Congratulations to both of you!

  • @lachlana7257
    @lachlana7257 2 роки тому +6

    That is a fantastic and really impressive result; absolutely blown away by its performance. Just something important with your placement of the emergency stop button, it gets blocked by the acylic chip guards when the Gantry is towards the front of the machine. Just something to be mindful of, especially whilst learning as it can be your best friend and save you a lot of money in cutters.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +2

      Hey Lechlan, thanks! And thanks for the reminder on the e-stop. I had clocked the potential irony of being blocked from pressing the e-stop by something advertising the best safety device!!!

  • @roboticus3647
    @roboticus3647 2 роки тому +2

    Looks like a wonderful machine. Thanks for going into detail on it, is pretty darned nice!

  • @daveb7999
    @daveb7999 Рік тому +2

    Incredible in such a grand way, I do believe this CNC will be found one day 12800 years from now, and still be in spec. Nice job! 👍

  • @JohnDavidDunlap
    @JohnDavidDunlap 2 роки тому +3

    This is a fantastic machine! I was blown away by how well it was cutting steel!

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Thanks John. Yeah I dared to hope, but was ready for that to be a flop - munched through it though :D

  • @uncommonlogic1698
    @uncommonlogic1698 Рік тому +3

    Weld done ! Punn intended
    Rigidity is necessary for repeatability, if your cutting speeds and rapids are low speed, Mass is not a serious issue.
    Rapids are not necessary in a Diy project.
    There are plywood kits that are rigid enough for non-production work.
    Excellent engineering Sir!

  • @dariodalcin5177
    @dariodalcin5177 4 місяці тому +1

    Finally found this video again, I'm building a CNC myself and this gave me lots of great ideas. I didn't go with resin in the end, just good old angle grinder and hand scraping

  • @hosseinashkboos5188
    @hosseinashkboos5188 2 роки тому +1

    Flipping Amazing! well done chap! and thank you for sharing.

  • @Mark_How
    @Mark_How 2 роки тому +11

    These monstrous shop upgrades with near vertical learning curves are always daunting, but nothing quite like the high's of surmounting them and then having them on your side to scale higher heights. This was impressive

  • @richardmccann4815
    @richardmccann4815 2 роки тому +3

    Very glad I watched this. Back in the 70's, DoAll company made metal cutting bandsaws with concrete filled steel casings to dampen vibration and increase mass.
    I've been scavenging precision slides and ball screws from big industrial machines, for years now. Wish I had some younger help, at 70 I'm running out of strength! Great video, great thinking! Subscribed! Best to all!

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Hi Richard, many thanks for leaving a comment :) Interesting stuff that bandsaw business, I bet it was a struggle with shipping costs. We actually came close to filling out bandsaw, which has a welded and folded sheet metal frame, with concrete and re-bar... Opted for sand fill in the end as we can drain it out from a plug rear the bottom when we move it. Thanks again, Bongo.

  • @mxdadNZ
    @mxdadNZ 2 роки тому +2

    That is insane, loved the thought process - Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @CatalinMinulescu
    @CatalinMinulescu 2 роки тому +1

    I have no words to describe what you have done !
    It is really incredible all the work and all the very simple ideas you have used to finally have a REAL INDUSTRIAL CNC !
    I'm a mechanical engineer but I will never dear to try such a build !
    Congratulations and keep on the good work !

  • @CNC-Time-Lapse
    @CNC-Time-Lapse 2 роки тому +3

    This was awesome! Thank you for posting this!
    I'm building a 4x8 CNC machine myself and some of the choices you've made I will likely incorporate into my build. I too would like a machine that can potentially do steel but lack the mass of a frame like yours. Mine is extruded 8080 from 80/20 and bar stock but I was thinking of filling the profiles with epoxy gravel and seeing if that helps give the machine enough mass (it's only several hundred pounds right now). Still in the assembly phase as I just completed the frame and working on the ball screw assemblies. I built a custom CNC controller for it already that can support 4-axis as well as dual X-Axis (one as a mirrored slave similar to yours), 2 vacuums, and 2 other pumps for coolant. I'm using NEMA 34 Servos hybrids as they were not too expensive and can be upgraded as needed. I've never done anything like this before and only a hobby electronics guy and literally have never even used a CNC machine but I've always wanted to learn and what a wonderful project this has been. It's quite an expensive "can I do it" project, but I've learned so much about electrical, design, machining, g-code, computer programming, etc. Wouldn't have it any other way! Worth every penny and hour spent.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +2

      Hey George, that's great to hear! So pleased if fellow builders can get something from video... And all you say is spot on - sooooo much to learn. Sounds like you're well on your way :)

  • @robertsteinwandel6658
    @robertsteinwandel6658 Рік тому +3

    What a great build
    Really cool processes, and I like your use of alternatives for epoxy granite when you didn’t need the perfect dimensional stability
    Thanks for a great vid!

  • @fredio54
    @fredio54 Рік тому +1

    24:00 OMG I didn't notice that this was in a cobb / earth building either. Also laughed at various nuances this time. Fully and totally worth a rewatch.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, It's earth plaster over straw bale - makes for a toasty workshop most of the time, and does a good job of keeping rust off tools etc. Thanks for watching :)

  • @chadmaurer4002
    @chadmaurer4002 Рік тому +1

    wonderful video. thank you for sharing with the community.

  • @shannonsgarage2934
    @shannonsgarage2934 2 роки тому +3

    mate im halfway through a cnc plasma table build, although i dont expect great accuracy out of it and wouldnt consider it anywhere near an industrial grade cnc machine, youve given me some good design ideas to implement, and a whole heap of things i wouldnt of considered. Well done brother an inspiration to many. Cheers shan

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Great to know it might be useful :D

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 роки тому +1

      You're going to be pleasantly surprised just how accurate CNC can be. It's all math and computers are very good at math. A thousandth of an inch is trivial to achieve.

  • @grumpychops8113
    @grumpychops8113 2 роки тому +3

    Yay :) Welcome back! :)

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      lol Thanks.

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 2 роки тому +1

      Grumpy Chops: Anyone who comments "Yay :) Welcome back! :)" doesn't deserve the handle "Grumpy Chops"! :o)

    • @grumpychops8113
      @grumpychops8113 2 роки тому +1

      @@PiefacePete46 That's what happens when your children create your account for you! ;);)

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 2 роки тому +1

      @@grumpychops8113 You've got to love 'em though! 😋

  • @gobot109
    @gobot109 2 роки тому +1

    That is the most remarkable thing I have ever seen. Stunned.

  • @jimviau327
    @jimviau327 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely stunning. Great build.

  • @tgirard123
    @tgirard123 2 роки тому +3

    That was an amazing build. I'd love to see you get into some aluminum plate using a full bit. The machine looks like it has enough mass to be able to handle that kind of a cut. I've seen a couple of others using sand and rock and epoxy but I like the way you did it better. A lot more DIY friendly and definitely massive.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Timmy! attempts of that kind will likely come in the next video if you can hang on ;)

  • @DobryjMaster
    @DobryjMaster 2 роки тому +4

    Very good job!!!

  • @neogabo123
    @neogabo123 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing work dude! Truly, congratz!!

  • @NicoSmets
    @NicoSmets Рік тому +1

    I can hardly believe the magnitude of this project. Incredible. I was mesmerized from beginning to end of the video.

  • @FloweringElbow
    @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +35

    The video where we test this baby! ua-cam.com/video/zTQJpwYjUeg/v-deo.html
    If you would like the 3D CAD model to play with, and/or to get our metalized epoxy recipe/guide, go here: ko-fi.com/floweringelbow/shop Thank you for watching friend!
    We are in the process of putting together a big document, full of diagrams and details about this machine build. When it's done we will add the links here & in the description above.
    If there is any element of this you are curious about please ASK! We love to hear from you and will reply, and it might be something we write about in the document we're making...
    Peace n Love,
    Bongo and Sam

    • @lowellhouser7731
      @lowellhouser7731 2 роки тому +2

      Love this. I'm in the process of doing something similar with a focus on repeatability, sort of decentralized production for proliferation. My design uses junk aluminum cast using a lost-foam method, bearings are 608RS(lots of them) on concrete-filled steel tubing, acme leadscrews, steppers, LinuxCNC, 2 1/4HP wood router for now. Desktop machine, less than a meter square footprint. Next version will switch to helical rack&pinion drive.
      With all of that info, I know everything you're going through with this, and it's fair to say that your build is going to be far better than mine in terms of sheer cutting capability. Mine's easier to get into for new builders, yours is just better. Great job.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +1

      @@lowellhouser7731 That sounds like a cool build. Thanks for watching, and good luck with the rack & pinion version.

    • @lowellhouser7731
      @lowellhouser7731 2 роки тому +2

      @@FloweringElbow Dude, I can't wait to see what you can make with yours. I can tell, you really have only scrapped the surface. This thing is gonna be great.

    • @ka0skontrol504
      @ka0skontrol504 2 роки тому +1

      @@FloweringElbow Love this vid. Liked and subbed. Also, I don't know if you're into 3D printing at all but if so, I have a suggestion for the cable chain: 3D print it out of 95A shore or higher Filaflex flexible filament. It will solve your creaking issue as well as give better vibration damping. It's also fairly light so it shouldn't add much extra weight if any to the gantry movement. Use nylon link pins with cotter pins through the exit ends to join the links so that you have adequate lubrication on it without having to grease/oil it since nylon is self-lubricating and rigid enough for that application. I'm also suggesting the cotter pins as the link retainers for the nylon link pins because it will make it much easier later on if you ever have to do any maintenance to the lines. You could also use aluminium link pins and give them a light coat of white lithium grease if you prefer a stronger link that requires less maintenance (e.g. having to replace the nylon link pins every so often). This will add a bit more weight to the cable chain but you won't have to fiddle with it as much. If you go the route of aluminium link pins, be sure to get some eyelet inserts to put into the chain link holes where the pins would go to help reduces friction grabbing.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +1

      @@ka0skontrol504 Thanks for this, sounds like good advice. One day I'll join this century and get a 3d printer. Not sure when though ;)

  • @Zebra66
    @Zebra66 Рік тому +4

    The trick for getting a perfectly flat epoxy leveling is to use a hairdryer on it after you pour. This gets the bubbles out and reduces viscosity to allow it to self-level.
    Also, leave an inch of unused surface around the edges. It will never be level close to the sides. It will be slightly raised there.
    If you did it right no scraping is necessary. If you have to scrape the whole process is pointless.
    Depending on the size, you can also cast epoxy directly against a surface you already know to be flat like a granite surface plate.
    Don't use water to reduce surface tension. It prevents curing properly. Use an isopropyl alcohol mist if you have to.

  • @boedidley823
    @boedidley823 Рік тому +1

    This is brilliant work. Great video.

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing persistence and amazing result.

  • @wombatillo
    @wombatillo 2 роки тому +3

    Your concrete mix was maybe a little overkill but it's heart warming to see such meticulous planning and optimization. I'm sure store bought dry-mix with extra fibers would have been sufficient.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! More expensive and not as fun though - at least if you have a penchant for overkill :D

  • @johankriel7612
    @johankriel7612 2 роки тому +3

    Congratulations on a awesome build. This machine will give you years of joy. You are definitely aware of how important it is to start with a great sturdy base. Don’t be scared to move away from Mach 3/4. Although I have been involved for the last 15 years with CNC I realized that the computer based setup with Mach do give glitches. Great for hobby but when you want reliability, do check in future after making some money to invest in a dedicated controller. They are dedicated and will give you very reliable machine with immediate startup. We converted our cnc plasma, router and milling machine to this controllers. Once again great video, great build. You are a creative person and this will bring very creative designs on a router. Very handy when you start doing signs for shops. 😎

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Hey Johan, Thanks watching and for sharing your experience. I have to say, after only just getting to grips with Mach3 - writing tool change & relay actuator macros etc, I'm quite scared to even think about moving on right now...
      What type of dedicated controller are you using?
      Thanks again, Bongo.

    • @johankriel7612
      @johankriel7612 2 роки тому +1

      @@FloweringElbow There is a few varients but they mostly all use a ARM processor. This is what we use, SZGH-CNC1000MDc. Best of luck😎

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 роки тому

      Mach 3 glitch? You don't say! Must be why it's been abandoned by the developers now. Personally I run LinuxCNC and it is as solid as a rock is. There's nothing better available.

  • @SatyajitRoy2048
    @SatyajitRoy2048 4 місяці тому +1

    Best build I have ever seen.

  • @teknikgroup7597
    @teknikgroup7597 2 роки тому +1

    i LOVE that power hacksaw. I grew up using one of those babies.....from tube, to ground stock....solid and reliable...last forever.

  • @trenvan5546
    @trenvan5546 2 роки тому +3

    I love it! I want to see more of this device as well. just one thing though I really feel you need to get your vacuum system more integrated as I have seen many end mills shatter in work pieces sending shrapnel everywhere. you need more than a face shield you need body armor if you are going to be that close to the work

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Hi Tren, I totally agree! Working on it - its fairly tricky to get a system that's good for extracting the full gambit of waste from the differing materials I'm throwing on here. I'm working on it though.

  • @darkwinter6028
    @darkwinter6028 2 роки тому +4

    MDF, like all wood products, isn’t dimensionally stable, principally due to humidity variation; it will be contributing to the machine’s inaccuracies. Before running a part that you’re trying to hold tighter tolerances on; expect to need to re-level the spoilboard.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Good afternoon Dark Winter, thanks for commenting. Yes I agree. I might slowly start melting and making thick alu plates to replace at least some of the MDF. As you say it isn't super stable - neither is it super rigid: I can deflect it quite a bit with my body weight between the box steel slats... Thanks, Bongo.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 роки тому

      You could mesh map it.

  • @IronBelH
    @IronBelH Рік тому +2

    Loving it. Sometimes detailed plans are indeed overrated, but to eyeball this monster… respect. Also giggling over the looks on your friends’ faces after agreeing to help you move “for a pizza and a beer”.

  • @stephensomersify
    @stephensomersify 2 роки тому +1

    I was born 50 years too soon - absolutely INSPIRATIONAL - old git, UK

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Hey Stephen, appreciate you watching and your encouragement, thanks! :D

  • @chaklee435
    @chaklee435 Рік тому +3

    Amazing. Prime example of what is lost when engineering degrees are only handed out by academia.

  • @jonjon3829
    @jonjon3829 2 роки тому +3

    H beams are bad against twisting forces.

  • @pablochiaraviglio8977
    @pablochiaraviglio8977 2 роки тому +1

    Un-friggin'-believable! Loved it, you are inventive, productive, and a genius of machine making. hats off!

  • @digimikek
    @digimikek Рік тому +1

    You are a phenomena! Is there anything you can't do? Your Wallace and the cat Gromit! You are fun to watch!

  • @cyklop1977
    @cyklop1977 2 роки тому +7

    NICE CNC ....TELL YOUR WOMAN TO HIDE HAIR !!! MAY LOSE OR SOMETHING WORSE HAPPEN

  • @LawrenceButcher
    @LawrenceButcher Рік тому +1

    Absolutely exceptional work, briliant.

  • @patbarrett9263
    @patbarrett9263 2 роки тому +2

    Your build was quiet amazing. Mine is an all-welded base and it work s just fine thanks for your video.

  • @MrStarTraveler
    @MrStarTraveler 10 місяців тому +2

    You have the workshop I dream about!
    I hope I get there some day.

  • @paul_fredrick
    @paul_fredrick 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely amazing!

  • @kadmow
    @kadmow 2 роки тому +1

    Love the rotating nut detail - that is a "number 1" feature for a fast machine..
    Attention to true and straight can't be overstated...

  • @stewartfrye
    @stewartfrye Рік тому +1

    An extreme amount of materials research went into this, you state just build as you go, but not that simple was it. I appreciate the engineering behind the scenes.

  • @Freeagent-4-life
    @Freeagent-4-life 2 роки тому +1

    Man. what a great video. Truly marvelous resourcefulness.

  • @doughoist
    @doughoist 11 місяців тому +1

    Awesome display of patience and drive. I admire you greatly.

  • @tchaps5130
    @tchaps5130 Рік тому +1

    That is incredible work

  • @mgrantom
    @mgrantom Рік тому +2

    Really great build. I admire your determination and perseverance. You took some old iron junk and created a truly awesome tool. Loved your brake rotor hanger too. Thanks for sharing.

  • @sammymuturi2024
    @sammymuturi2024 2 роки тому +1

    I like the way you engage to your comments/viewers not so many you tubers reply.

    • @FloweringElbow
      @FloweringElbow  2 роки тому

      Hi Sammy, well, we had better reply then! Greetings from Bongo and Sam :)

  • @christosvolikakis1523
    @christosvolikakis1523 2 роки тому +1

    This video was mindblowing!

  • @edreusser4741
    @edreusser4741 2 роки тому

    I would as well. Astonishing!

  • @TheBrick2
    @TheBrick2 Рік тому +1

    This is so rad. I have had plans but no space to do something like this for ~10-15 years, probably read aa load of similar threads or people having circular arguments. I now have some space but no time and just need to finish building the workshop. Then I might be able to make a start.

  • @rickfearn3663
    @rickfearn3663 2 роки тому +1

    Inspiring video. Just amazing what you achieved on your budget!!!

  • @markushamm8762
    @markushamm8762 2 роки тому +1

    Unbelievable, congrats. Very nice machine build.

  • @plasmarc9
    @plasmarc9 Рік тому +1

    Great work with fantastic result!

  • @bflmpsvz870
    @bflmpsvz870 2 роки тому +1

    This is absolutely awesome!

  • @nateb1804
    @nateb1804 Рік тому +1

    Wow this is a really awesome project!!!