That's what I love about German spgs is that most are low profile and easier to conceal or can get hull down to use that good upper frontal armor. This and the Jagdpanther are amazing
@@howiethehowitzer7398 It's been said that if Germany had stuck to TD's late in the war instead of trying to make hvy tanks the war would have ended far later than it did. The TD's were far less complicated, used less steel, were easier to make and far better suited for a defensive war.
@@douglascampbell9809 I can see it prolonging the war since most spgs cost less in both material and production time. I say that as it's a stereotype of casemates.
@@douglascampbell9809 True, but the war wouldn't have ended much earlier. The impact of German armour is massively overstated and was effectively a moot cause after Kursk due to widespread fuel shortages. Even the Heer had to demotorise in a period where other armies were moving toward complete motorisation. The Germans would have caused more casualties with more tanks, but the immense logistic misbalance forced the war to a close. You could bring another counterfactual argument in, that if the Germans had adopted a wider track earlier in the war then German armour would have been far more effective during the rush of Barbarossa.
Nice game! I agree dude, it is a great vehicle! German TD's are why I even found this game as I was researching my favorite tank, the Ferdinand Elefant, and found a Jingles video doing a WOT video on it. I ground straight to it and did terrible! I was gaming under 20 FPS and had no idea about anything really. lol War Thunder planes soon after and then I tried to get into GF but I just couldn't. Here we are like 8 years later and I Just unlocked the Panther A, so it won't be long now. Already had tons of great games in this flatpanzer, which is just a brilliant German TD, love all of them historically, and have had a lot of fun in War Thunder with them, as I continue to grow as a player. Spading them one by one, and the Flatpanzer I have tier 3 and up modules to unlock and already have a 12 deaths 11 kills. Still have tons of positional knowledge to gain but getting it!
@@mekhane.broken9678 I have effectively stopped grinding the German tree now that I have a good 5.3 lineup, I find the game gets a lot less fun the higher you go.
Aw yes Very good tank and the osteketten makes it all the better :) Also could you do a video on the chieftain? It’d be interesting how you fare in that thing (mk 3 or 5 as not to torture yourself)
the panzer IV/70(V) for me is the best tank for frontal fights, it can bounce jumbos, and to be sure if shots do pen, I only carry 12 rounds because they place it on the lower rack, not beside the heads of the crew. Easy 5 kills in urban environments, but repair cost is 4,000 sl.
This is perfect example of ultimate freaking overpowered tank that gaijin added in the game, if you don't show sides and your opponent hasn't got 90min you're nearly invincible and with the gun that this vehicle have you're monster i call this unbalanced tank nice video
One thing i like about the Panzer IV/70(V) is that Russian 85mm APHE will pen the transmission but US 76mm APCBC, which in theory performs better at angle than standard AP may or may not pen it
Yeah this is the vehicle that my Jumbos least liked fighting. That was when Jumbos were 5.0. My best hope (apart from flanking) was to hit its gun, transmission or maybe tracks.
The jagdpanzer IV/70 V is a pain in the ass when im grinding the US tanks, on maginot line one of these killed my m26 cause he was on a hill and i couldnt pen him anywhere
@Reverend Krieger Durden Tyler sr hell honesty I still remember the bug reports on the m60 and how gaijin continues to ignore it and not to mention once they did that mathematics for all the rounds penetration in the game that basically made me lose all hope that they would fix the 90mm gun at all
Honestly it's about the armor on this thing and not pen but it's nice to have it. Anyways, great video odd, I'm liking the frame rate and focus on anti Cas-Cas. Lineup showcase is just so much better
Why do I think that the downvotes are players you tapped that got sent back to the garage who take this this game far too seriously with no sense of humor about it? Just sayin'................ :-) As always, keep up the stellar amazing good work! From a follower from across the pond.......
Yes it has the Panther's gun. It also has the Panther's battle rating. So why even take it out? The low profile is offset by the lack of a turret. Doesn't make any sense that this is still at 5.3.
@@kirishima638 uhh no this thing is strong and is fine pushing it lower is a bad idea keep in mind it was lower than the panther until gaijin thought it was a good idea to put the panther at it's br
@@alphawolf1786 Agreed so one of them has the wrong BR. If the Panther has the same gun, in a turret, with more armor, then it should have a higher BR. But if Gaijin thinks the Panther should be 5.3 now, that means they also must consider this as 5.0.
Thanks for the video odd, really appreciated by all of us. Just as a suggestion, I'd like to see you play the b1 ter, me as a level 28 or so managed 14 kills in that monster. I'd be interested to see you have a go at it. Thanks again.
this tank is sooo underated, my top kill count record is hold by this tank, panther 2nd and leopard a1a1 3rd. i get easily 7+ kill in this tank. my nemesis in this tank is comet apds and is-2 boomschtick
German casemates are so nice once you get the enemy in front of you at a decent distance. This and the Jagdpanther are probably the best German spgs at their br in my opinion.
@@mekhane.broken9678 that's what keeps me from wanting to stick with higher battle ratings. It sounds lame, but I don't think wwii vehicles should be dealing with cold war era vehicles. That jump in technology is pretty huge. It would be splendid if War Thunder compressed BR and also made battle modes for vehicles by era.
I dont regret rolling USA . They are just unfairly BRd for a big chunk the of tech tree. I play for fun and am.not concerned with grinding more vehicle. But I dont play play USA 5.3 anymore coz Germany got an insane and (unfair) buff. Having this TD and the tiger and now the panther at 5.3 is really gross. The 76mm sherman struggles a lot now
@@justinkedgetor5949 exactly and it becomes hard to grind for silver lions cause you start loosing faster than you gain and then it becomes kinda frustrating
lol what are the chances that i randomly find your youtube channel while scrolling on my main page. idk if you remember me but i used to come and hang out on your stream. you started out with tarkov when i found you then you went to war thunder.
I dont mind the big cats being put down if they do the same treatment for USA and UK. The Allies get bullied hard in this game now since its USA and UK vs the world 90% of the time
@@justinkedgetor5949 not to mention the nerf to 4.7 5.3 and 5.7 US lineup at the moment if you are playing 4.7 US lineups you don't want to be put at 5.3 fighting against Germany
This vehicle repair cost is about 2x or even 3x the amount of other similar br vehicles! Hell my 5.3 and 5.7 panthers cost the same or less than this vehicle lmao the cost is outrageous 8mo
Negative 7 degrees gun depression is bad?
Me as a Russia only player: woah that would be luxury.
They are all just sad people being so depressed
same lol
yeah. Everytime when i'm switching from ussr to german tree it feels so much easier to play on hilly maps
Negative gun depression would be elevation....
@@Manuelslayor whoops
Best thing about the IV/70, it's basically a Panther D but it's not as tall as die Reichstag
Indeed
That's what I love about German spgs is that most are low profile and easier to conceal or can get hull down to use that good upper frontal armor. This and the Jagdpanther are amazing
@@howiethehowitzer7398 It's been said that if Germany had stuck to TD's late in the war instead of trying to make hvy tanks the war would have ended far later than it did.
The TD's were far less complicated, used less steel, were easier to make and far better suited for a defensive war.
@@douglascampbell9809 I can see it prolonging the war since most spgs cost less in both material and production time. I say that as it's a stereotype of casemates.
@@douglascampbell9809 True, but the war wouldn't have ended much earlier. The impact of German armour is massively overstated and was effectively a moot cause after Kursk due to widespread fuel shortages. Even the Heer had to demotorise in a period where other armies were moving toward complete motorisation. The Germans would have caused more casualties with more tanks, but the immense logistic misbalance forced the war to a close. You could bring another counterfactual argument in, that if the Germans had adopted a wider track earlier in the war then German armour would have been far more effective during the rush of Barbarossa.
Phly: "Check out Oddbawz for some ultra sweaty game play." Well done Sir Oddbawz; Perfect sweatyness/entertainment ratio!
"...this thing only have -7 gun depression"
*Cries in Russian*
lol
Cyka
I really love this TD yesterday I got a game with 8 kills i was bouncing everything
Love your profile picture
I play with the jagpanther and it's like as long as I don't see an is 2 ill be fine
I bounced couple is2 sheels with it
@@VivyX2 that's to a nice one especially when you get downtierd
Yes its such a good TD but u really like the Nashorn too with its Pak 8,8cm its pen everything at 5.3
This is my favorite tank, becuz anything 76 or below at range will just bounce off the front. Same with its little brother at 4.3
Hi Odd, try either Bearcat in ground RB, they're great! Could be part of a one and done as there are lots of lineup options for the US around 6.0-6.7
OddBawZ: "We got one more aircraft. Which isn't going to matter"
*Also the aircraft starts going towards him*
OddBawZ: O.o
got this tank today and got 6 kills with it on the first round, really good tank, btw the default camo looks great if you reduce the scale to 20%
I imagine odd making videos and when he plays a match and gets less than 10 kills is like " well that match was no good cant show that"😂😂
Apparently that was true, and he recently said he would do it like the old times
wish I could make videos like you they're just unique and a different taste from the rest of the community
I'll sub with 3 accounts brb
Music really jumped out at me in the into! Well done!
That's one of my favorite tanks in the entire game, that thing is so much fun
It's like a teen jagpanther
Nice game! I agree dude, it is a great vehicle! German TD's are why I even found this game as I was researching my favorite tank, the Ferdinand Elefant, and found a Jingles video doing a WOT video on it. I ground straight to it and did terrible! I was gaming under 20 FPS and had no idea about anything really. lol War Thunder planes soon after and then I tried to get into GF but I just couldn't. Here we are like 8 years later and I Just unlocked the Panther A, so it won't be long now. Already had tons of great games in this flatpanzer, which is just a brilliant German TD, love all of them historically, and have had a lot of fun in War Thunder with them, as I continue to grow as a player. Spading them one by one, and the Flatpanzer I have tier 3 and up modules to unlock and already have a 12 deaths 11 kills. Still have tons of positional knowledge to gain but getting it!
I may or may not have a tattoo of a Dora on my arm. Any gameplay of that bird is always welcome!
5.3 is one of my favorite lineups. Tiger H1, Panther D, Panzer IV/70(V), and Fw 190 D-13
Gascoigne Germany 1.3 is pure fun. Nothing like ruining Stuart’s day with 20mm HVAP or sniping from across the map with 75mm HEAT
@@mekhane.broken9678 I have effectively stopped grinding the German tree now that I have a good 5.3 lineup, I find the game gets a lot less fun the higher you go.
@@jamessteale805 Pz IV C, Pz II F, and Flakpz 1 are fucking great.
@@dreamcrusher112 100% true I dont play passed 6.7
Callidus Vulpes Flakpanzer 1 is good? How??
Aw yes
Very good tank and the osteketten makes it all the better :)
Also could you do a video on the chieftain? It’d be interesting how you fare in that thing (mk 3 or 5 as not to torture yourself)
Nice OddBawz! Good battle where the armour meta counts. I decided to keep schürzen on my IV/70(V). I enjoy your quality videos.
15:15 My man's just enjoying flying over the European countryside
Good guy:Bring the maus back
Weird guy:I like british, especially archer.
Bad guy: *German 5.3 SuFferS*
the panzer IV/70(V) for me is the best tank for frontal fights, it can bounce jumbos, and to be sure if shots do pen, I only carry 12 rounds because they place it on the lower rack, not beside the heads of the crew. Easy 5 kills in urban environments, but repair cost is 4,000 sl.
the song in the beginning sounds like the soundtrack from Peacemaker movie in the beginning when the nukes are stolen from the train :) nice vid
12:25 spitfire living up to its name
Also play the horo
Attempt 3
Play the best plane in the game;
The mighty PO-2
Oh yes
I don't have! :(
OddBawZ to gulag you go
@@OddBawZ me neither haha,everytime I try so hard but to no prevail.
This is perfect example of ultimate freaking overpowered tank that gaijin added in the game, if you don't show sides and your opponent hasn't got 90min you're nearly invincible and with the gun that this vehicle have you're monster i call this unbalanced tank nice video
Ughhh what is my luck you always get Russian spaa when you are playing cas, while I get tanks.
I get German spaa when playing cas
Not sure that’s so unlucky. You get fewer kills but die a lot less.
i really wish we could turn off ally plane engine sound, its so annoying and loud
One thing i like about the Panzer IV/70(V) is that Russian 85mm APHE will pen the transmission but US 76mm APCBC, which in theory performs better at angle than standard AP may or may not pen it
Yeah this is the vehicle that my Jumbos least liked fighting. That was when Jumbos were 5.0. My best hope (apart from flanking) was to hit its gun, transmission or maybe tracks.
Highest praise to the guy that dropped the PE-8 bomb on the spawn campers.. They got what they deserved, no sympathy here.
15:45 when CAS outruns anti CAS
The jagdpanzer IV/70 V is a pain in the ass when im grinding the US tanks, on maginot line one of these killed my m26 cause he was on a hill and i couldnt pen him anywhere
The USA 90mm is super weak in every aspect besides post pen damage
In general usage, US 90mm only good if you have HEAT
@@justinkedgetor5949 it's nerfed in the game and one of the long bug reports to gaijin but gaijin keeps refusing to fix it
@Reverend Krieger Durden Tyler sr hell I heard that the T-33 in game isn't even the T-33
@Reverend Krieger Durden Tyler sr hell honesty I still remember the bug reports on the m60 and how gaijin continues to ignore it and not to mention once they did that mathematics for all the rounds penetration in the game that basically made me lose all hope that they would fix the 90mm gun at all
Honestly it's about the armor on this thing and not pen but it's nice to have it. Anyways, great video odd, I'm liking the frame rate and focus on anti Cas-Cas. Lineup showcase is just so much better
The flatpqnzer is one of my favourite vehicles. My go to jumbo killer.
I absolutely hate seeing these things pop up in the killfeed bc I know I'll be seeing them later on
I'll see you soon
NOOOOOOOOO
Killing these is a nightmare
Honestly I think this should be a 5.7 even. USA 90mm cant pen this reliably and the 17pounder can kinda pen this at medium range
Great vid lord bawz :3
That Wyvern pilot was a true gamer Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappa
I feel like this would have been awkward to drive IRL coz the barrel is so long
The power of the German pancake
When the battle task is to destroy enemy vehicles with an SPG, this is my go to vehicle.
I love this thing so much. Just absolutely clubs so many things
I love your vids oddbawz
Ah the Panzer IV/70. Literally a Panther minus it’s one weak spot, the turret
Agreed! I think the Panthers UFP is angled slightly more tho?
I can do nothing except agree with the pogchamp
Since I don't have money for bushes, I covered the front of this tank with gas cannisters, works 20% of the time
Pz IV/70(V) is probably one of my favourite vehicles in game
Love the intro!
This is proably the best German tank destroyer in game. Very small profile, good front armor, laser gun.
The German TDs are actually my favorites "go-to" vehicles, especially this one. For some reason I feel more at ease in the German TDs. **DepMode370**
Why do I think that the downvotes are players you tapped that got sent back to the garage who take this this game far too seriously with no sense of humor about it? Just sayin'................ :-)
As always, keep up the stellar amazing good work!
From a follower from across the pond.......
did that shot just looped around the cupola !!?
20:15
Right to the last round of ammo in the last game.
Yes it has the Panther's gun. It also has the Panther's battle rating. So why even take it out? The low profile is offset by the lack of a turret. Doesn't make any sense that this is still at 5.3.
You're right it should be at 5.7
@@justinkedgetor5949 5.0.
@@kirishima638 uhh no this thing is strong and is fine pushing it lower is a bad idea keep in mind it was lower than the panther until gaijin thought it was a good idea to put the panther at it's br
@@alphawolf1786 Agreed so one of them has the wrong BR. If the Panther has the same gun, in a turret, with more armor, then it should have a higher BR. But if Gaijin thinks the Panther should be 5.3 now, that means they also must consider this as 5.0.
Underrated channel like all war thunder channels
Thanks for the video odd, really appreciated by all of us. Just as a suggestion, I'd like to see you play the b1 ter, me as a level 28 or so managed 14 kills in that monster. I'd be interested to see you have a go at it. Thanks again.
Hey odd, I have a recommendation. Play the M4a3 105 with the Dauntless or the P40e1/f10
M4a3 - my favourite Sherman - powerfull engine, not bad armor, good HEAT ammunition.
And im here again watching this great videos
British 7,7 lineup would be awesome like the Cent mk 7 and the Sea hawk ir the Conqueor
this tank is sooo underated, my top kill count record is hold by this tank, panther 2nd and leopard a1a1 3rd. i get easily 7+ kill in this tank. my nemesis in this tank is comet apds and is-2 boomschtick
Thanks for making videos!
4:33 also in this game i was with you :)))))
Late to the game but still here! Your vids cheer me up! Keep it up!
I got chills from intro
I would like to see OddBawZ in the Sturmpanzer and the He 100D... low tier is fun tier. And no armour... ;-)
i love your tank vids
:D
Yes I need more osketten in my life
The osketten made me squeal with joy on my 4.0 germany lineup
But skirts 😐
1st game I played with this thing I got a double ace, and I am by no means a good player so this tank is worth picking up.
This Is my favourite vehicle in the game
German casemates are so nice once you get the enemy in front of you at a decent distance. This and the Jagdpanther are probably the best German spgs at their br in my opinion.
@@mekhane.broken9678 that's what keeps me from wanting to stick with higher battle ratings. It sounds lame, but I don't think wwii vehicles should be dealing with cold war era vehicles. That jump in technology is pretty huge.
It would be splendid if War Thunder compressed BR and also made battle modes for vehicles by era.
Agreed. The jagdpanther is a demon when played properly
The Wyvern ist much faster than any Focke Wulf at low altitudes.
16:04
current state of air RB
Thank you for playing my favorite tank
Awesome vid as always and btw whats that song you used at the start it's awesome sounding
i suggest playing the t54 1951 and the is4m
This is one of the tanks I perform best in. It's awesome.
Playing America and versing these tanks is a nightmare I sometimes Seriously regret choosing America as my starter tech tree
I dont regret rolling USA . They are just unfairly BRd for a big chunk the of tech tree. I play for fun and am.not concerned with grinding more vehicle. But I dont play play USA 5.3 anymore coz Germany got an insane and (unfair) buff. Having this TD and the tiger and now the panther at 5.3 is really gross. The 76mm sherman struggles a lot now
@@justinkedgetor5949 exactly and it becomes hard to grind for silver lions cause you start loosing faster than you gain and then it becomes kinda frustrating
this tanks the bane of my existence
Yeah at 5.3 it's in the grey area of being OP
Best War thunder Player and UA-camr
Wow that Wyvern was weird.
dad you should play the type61 and kikka its a fun lineup
play this combo! me 264 (with the biggest bomb load) and the hetzer
Attempt nr 5
Iv/70A an kv1 c is a good combo
Hey odd.Would you please do a bulldog and f82 video?Please?
lol what are the chances that i randomly find your youtube channel while scrolling on my main page. idk if you remember me but i used to come and hang out on your stream. you started out with tarkov when i found you then you went to war thunder.
play the m41a1 walker bulldog with the ad-4 please
Never understand why so many teams ignore B on Mozdok.
jag love ! get more casemates out please.
The repair is horrendous
why was there 5 adds in the last minutes of the video ? seems really odd
The wedge of desth
M26 Pershing and the p51h?
Do a vid on the IS-2, 205 mm of pen
Makes no sense that this thing is still 5.3 when the big cats got moved down, they really need to rework the entire system.
Yea but that's probably too much work for the snail
I dont mind the big cats being put down if they do the same treatment for USA and UK. The Allies get bullied hard in this game now since its USA and UK vs the world 90% of the time
@@justinkedgetor5949 not to mention the nerf to 4.7 5.3 and 5.7 US lineup at the moment if you are playing 4.7 US lineups you don't want to be put at 5.3 fighting against Germany
Prob just me but I like the 70 w/ side skirts better.
Can you try french aml 90 armored car
This vehicle repair cost is about 2x or even 3x the amount of other similar br vehicles! Hell my 5.3 and 5.7 panthers cost the same or less than this vehicle lmao the cost is outrageous 8mo
Funny how u can reliably use it at even 6.0
Run the Pz. 3M and the bf 110 c7
I Think it Works If he got Shells in the Magazin
Tiger 2
Yes