The World Today With Tariq Ali - Black Politics in the USA
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- This week Tariq is in conversation with the American essayist, political organiser, and professor of political science Adolph Reed.
In this interview Reed takes us through his involvement and analysis of the defining moments in the last 50 years of Black American politics: from the anti-colonial movements in the 60s, to the rise and decline of Black Power 70s and 80s, the early days of Obama in the 90s and more recently the Sanders phenomenon.
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Adolph Reed is one of the sharpest knives in the drawer; worth taking seriously, even if you end up disagreeing. I don't, myself, so it's easy for me to say, but this guy is totally serious.
Tariq ali as well. Good men.
My views on Jesse Jackson and Obama have been fully confirmed!!! I am thankful. I MUST follow my inner spirit/feeling.
Two revolutionary thinkers and genuine activists.
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I like the style of the interview. Webcams are always going to be lower quality compared to even the cheapest studio cameras so it actually looks better to see them talking to a computer than through a grainy webcam.
"There is no social issue, no political matter, no class contradiction, no social danger that academics cannot turn into raw material for career advancement."
"Ta-Nehisi Coates..vapid autodidact"
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thank you.
Tariq Ali, what a great mind. Though I disagree with him being a non-observant Muslim, his insights on Pakistan are great. Michael Brooks brought me here, left is best
the next Noam Chomsky. Absolutely a pleasure to hear him speak.
How do we separate the capitalist from the exploitation? It requires the sifting of humanity. It is built upon prior cultural practices which still fills its gaps.
Viva.
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Two heroes. I rewatch this often.
Y en qué moneda les pagan, dólares, rublos, yuanes o masburros fuertes...
Escuchá y callá!!
Adolph seemed to really want to talk about labor politics rather than black politics. I would recommend reaching out to Robin D. G. Kelley, Barbara Ransby, Khalil Gibran Muhammad, and bell hooks to continue and deepen the discussion of black politics on this program.
or anyone from Black Agenda Report like Glen Ford, Bruce Dixon, Margaret Kimberly or Danny Haiphong.
I think Adolph's point is that black politics are labour politics. He believes that that most of the ills black people suffer from in America are class based before they are race based, and that racism acts as a kevlar vest for capitalism. He cares less for the sufferings of middle class or upper middle class people, because to him, to attack the structure of racism is to attack class society in itself.
Black politics is labor politics and always has been. Slavery itself was a LABOR RELATION, not an extreme form of race relation. The people you mentioned are all fascists or idiots, or both. Terrible suggestion.
@@comradehandersson7859 That's not what he said here. The conversation went from 60s black power radicals, to black politicians within the Democratic Party ultimately peaking with Barack Obama, to the 2016 Bernie Sanders campaign (which Reed) was involved in), and then if Sanders can beat Trump in 2020. Black movements post-1970s were ignored. Second, black politics is more than just labor politics. Black individuals and organizations are leading campaigns not only for Fight for 15 and Care work but also on immigration, prosecutor races, trying children as adults in criminal courts, ending cash bail, gentrification, gerrymandering, etc. Reed spoke to none of those movements and/or individuals.
@@Wobbothe3rd Again, Reed did not say this and this formulation of black politics is too reductionist. See my response to Cultural Marxist.
Yeah I disagree with adolf here. The Black Panthers were extremely influential in the black community. Hiphop and modern day rap started from the civil rights movement and Black Lives Matter's radicalism originates from the Panthers.
Yeah, he hints at BLM's empty liberalism at the end too.
@@WillShetterly Yeah, I decided to hold back a bit, but it is somewhat jarring to see BLM's posturing described as "radical," or that the BPP should need liberal BLM in order to be validated.
For what it's worth, the Vision for Black Lives was a great step forward, but that was obviously because of all the pressure bubbling up (from within and outside) to be about anything more substantial than slogans and wokeness studies.
Whatever you think of the black panthers they were nothing by 1969. They very quickly dissipated. I think you're understanding of the history is too shallow. I disagree that the Panthers were EVER actually that influential. Not all black people live in Oakland.
Wobbo It is really weird and obnoxious to argue that the BPP were not influential because there are obviously black people who live outside of Oakland.
Black lives matter came from top down it wasn't grassroots.