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    Brian Jones, the founding member of The Rolling Stones, was a multi-talented musician and a pivotal figure in the 1960s rock and roll scene. However, the assessment of his impact and contribution to the band and the music industry as a whole has been a subject of debate among fans and critics alike.
    Brian Jones was born as Lewis Brian Hopkin Jones at the Park Nursing Home in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, on Saturday, February 28, 1942, Brian came from a well-off, middle-class family. He attended a private junior school and later earned a spot at a local grammar school, where he excelled academically. His father, a pianist, organist, and choir leader at their local church, had high hopes that Brian would follow in his footsteps and attend university.
    Brian’s musical prowess did not extend to composing but examples of his talent can be heard on numerous Stones recordings, among them, his slide guitar on “I’m a King Bee,” “Little Red Rooster,” and “No Expectations” from Beggars Banquet. He plays the sitar on “Street Fighting Man” and “Paint It, Black;” organ on “Let’s Spend the Night Together;” marimba on “Under My Thumb” and “Out Of Time;” recorder on “Ruby Tuesday;” dulcimer and harpsichord on “Lady Jane;” saxophone and oboe on “Dandelion;” mellotron on “She’s A Rainbow;” and his harmonica playing graces “Not Fade Away,” “2120 South Michigan Avenue,” and “Prodigal Son.”
    Was Brian Jones So Important To The Rolling Stones? In This video we delve into his musical journey and examine as a multi-talented musician and a pivotal figure in the 1960s rock and roll scene.
    Sources & References:
    - Brian Jones and The Stones 2023 (BBC Two)
    - Rolling Stone: Life and Death of Brian Jones (2019)
    - Rolling Stone: Crossfire Hurricane (2012)
    - The Rolling Stones: Charlie Is My Darling - Ireland 1965
    - The Rolling Stones
    - Wikipedia
    #brianjones therollingstones #rollingstones #keithrichards #mickjagger #billwyman #charliewatts

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  • @elmolewis9123
    @elmolewis9123 29 днів тому +13

    The only albums I ever owned had either Brian or Mick Taylor. Brian's creativity and Mick T's musicianship gave the Stones their sustainability. I left them years ago.

    • @bluegryp
      @bluegryp 24 дні тому +1

      The Some girls album is the exception. That was the only top tier Ronnie Wood era record.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 22 дні тому

      So they are sustainable but you as a fan are not?
      Oh that makes perfect sense.

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 17 днів тому +1

      I dig it !!! Gotcha . :)

  • @djinnmagik4817
    @djinnmagik4817 15 днів тому +4

    This was the best and most complete RIP Brian Jones documentary on UA-cam 🙏🏼 Thanks for sharing! Thanks for posting!

    • @RockinRollinOne
      @RockinRollinOne  10 днів тому

      Wow, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙌😉✨🎶❤️

  • @SuperAnimelover100
    @SuperAnimelover100 29 днів тому +23

    Brian was the person that created the Rolling Stones in the beginning. He chose the music. He chose the name. He was the leader. He signed all the recording contracts, the management contracts, all kinds of things. Brian was the originator. Bill Wyman said, Brian Jones formed the band. He chose the members. He named the band. He chose the music we played. He got us gigs.

    • @elenikorkodelaki2695
      @elenikorkodelaki2695 27 днів тому +5

      BRIAN JONES was the most important Rolling Stone 🎸👏👏.. A Genius ⭐💫..

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 27 днів тому +4

      @@elenikorkodelaki2695
      Well said Eleni !!!! :):)

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому +5

      It is all lies. Bill was not in the band when he claims all these things happened with Brian.
      Bill Wyman is a liar.
      Brian joined Keith's band in April or May and Bill did not join the band until mid December 1962, almost 1963.
      Bill was not there when Mick Keith and Dick Taylor founded the Blue Boys in 1961 ... the same band who changed their name to the Rollin Stones.
      Bill was not there to hear the repertoire of the Blue Boys before Brian joined Keith's band when most of what they played was Blues songs. Bill was not there when Brian asked if he could join Keith's blues band the Blue Boys. Bill was not there when they changed their name to the Rolling Stones from the Blue Boys and Bill was not there when they played their debut performance at the Marquee Club in July of 1962. Dick Taylor was Mick and Keith's bass player when all that happened. Bill was at the other end of London playing bass for a band called the Cliftons and he did not know Keith, Mick or Brian at that time.
      Everything Bill says about the early Rolling Stones are lies. BILL WAS NOT THERE.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому +1

      The only group that Brian Jones created, was the 27 Club.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 21 день тому +1

      You see, Brian was a malignant narcissist and a braggadocious serial compulsive liar. Bill was his best friend in the band, maybe in the world and they roomed together when they were on tour.
      Bill was not in the band for the first eight months after Brian joined, so he knew nothing about how the band formed or who made the decisions or who was in charge... Brian filled his head with lies about how he auditioned and hired the band members, named the band, booked the gigs and was the musical leader deciding what they played and how they played it.
      None of it, of course, was true but Bill believed him , or at least he seemed to believe him.
      After Brian tragically died the only one willing to do interviews about Brian was Bill and he would go on and on retelling the lies that brian had told him over the course of six years . The writers and journalists would then quote Bill as though everything he said was the gospel truth because after all...He was a member of the band wasn't he?...they would never check their source to see if Bill was even in the band at the time he supposedly remembered all the things that he says Brian did... Poor journalism.
      Then all the writers and journalists started quoting and embellishing on each other's gossipy stories as well as quoting Wyman and all his nonsense.
      Thus the legend was born. Complete with made up stories and extended myths about Brian writing many songs without getting credit for his "musical genius" and tales of having his band "stolen" from him..
      One writer ( Paul Trynka) wrote such gushing lies about Brian that some pages in his books contained the words "musical genius" more than the words "the" and "and".
      They always portrayed Mick and Keith as the evil plotters who stole poor Brian's songs and his girl friend and his band and Brian as the angelic victim who fell under their oppression and bullying.
      Nothing could be further from the truth, but It sold books..
      There never was a shortage of musical geniuses in The Rolling Stones but Brian Jones was certainly NOT one of them.
      Jones was a poser, a psychopath and a phoney.

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 19 днів тому +5

    "... He was a very talented guy, and I don't regret a day working with him and meeting him and putting the Stones together with him. I wouldn't have missed that for anything... Brian deserves credit for his drive in putting the band together and putting it on a solid footing. If the band had remained what our limited horizons for it were, which was a hip London club band, it would have been fine. But he pushed us to be more." - Keith Richards, Boston Globe, 1989

  • @ClassicRockFilms
    @ClassicRockFilms 29 днів тому +14

    Keeping the Brian Jones spirit ALIVE !!

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 22 дні тому

      You mean ,keeping the Brian Jones lies alive.

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 17 днів тому +1

      @@williardbillmore5713
      Love that Doobie Brothers song , What a fool believes .

    • @donaldcolucci2557
      @donaldcolucci2557 14 днів тому

      @@ClassicRockFilms stones musically became less entertaining after Brian

  • @aminahmed2220
    @aminahmed2220 29 днів тому +7

    What a fantastic video have a wonderful weekend ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊

    • @elseMa5194
      @elseMa5194 11 днів тому +1

      Tremendous Rolling Stones
      Thanks for posting ❤

  • @vspenceful
    @vspenceful 26 днів тому +4

    Brian Jones brought the kind of thing to the stones that Beatles had as an entire band. He often took what might sound simple and made it sound complex. He added sounds to the songs that made the whole song standout. The only LP I ever had after he left was Beggars Banquet. I knew something was missing after that. A lot of their music, after he left, was sort of been there, done that as far as I was concerned.

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 19 днів тому +3

    "Jimi Hendrix was honored to attend a Rolling Stones recording session for Ruby Tuesday. It was really Brian Jones' session. He was the master of the sound, and the various exotic instruments he played all fused into a melodic experience that expanded the parameters of the Rolling Stones' sound. Ruby Tuesday became number one as they hung out together. Brian was ecstatic over its success. He loved to hear it by chance, on the radio in his Rolls Royce, in a club, or out of a solitary window they happened to pass. Brian would tell with great relish of how he and Keith Richards worked and worked on coloring, adding dramatic yet wispy touches here and there, alternating the mix between lead voice and background vocal harmonies, while interplaying exotic instruments. Sounds that were impossible to identify gave Ruby Tuesday an eternal air of mystery and yearning."--'Scuse Me While I Kiss the Sky: Jimi Hendrix: Voodoo Child, by David Henderson

  • @djacidkingcidguerreiro9780
    @djacidkingcidguerreiro9780 8 днів тому +1

    Brian Jones WAS the heart and soul of the Rolling Stones. The Stones were at their greatest 1963-69, before the rot set in.

  • @jamesewanchook2276
    @jamesewanchook2276 22 дні тому +3

    I love Brian...

  • @alaincelos476
    @alaincelos476 22 дні тому +2

    For any musician !!! It IS incredibly heardable ,before 1969 it was music !!!!

  • @elenikorkodelaki2695
    @elenikorkodelaki2695 27 днів тому +6

    Of course Brian Jones was important and he will be forever. He was the FOUNDER of the Stones!! A brilliant multitalendet musician! After Brian Jones the magic ✨..was lost! Respect to his memory 🙏

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 23 дні тому

      Psssh. He was a drug-adled no load.

    • @elenikorkodelaki2695
      @elenikorkodelaki2695 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@TheBatugan77Psssssss.. Who are you to judge???? Are you the perfect person???? So much ironic 😏 hate... Relax!

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 22 дні тому

      @@TheBatugan77Psst you’re a pathetic excuse for a troll.

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 17 днів тому +2

      @@elenikorkodelaki2695
      You tell it, Eleni !!!! Well said !!!!!!! :):):)

  • @ernesttenesmus6757
    @ernesttenesmus6757 10 днів тому +1

    Stones were great fun back in the day.

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 19 днів тому +1

    “In 1966, I witnessed, on numerous occasions, the remarkable spell Brian would cast while working in the recording studio. Mick and Keith would bring songs in, Brian would listen and effectively take charge, and everyone was in awe of him. He was a real perfectionist. While recording the recorder part in Ruby Tuesday he explained to me that he had to do it over again as he had been a quarter tone off tune."--Prince Stash Klossowski de Rola (artist and friend of the Stones) in Brian Jones: Butterfly in the Park.

  • @nvm9040
    @nvm9040 24 дні тому +3

    Rest in peace to Brian on the anniversary of his death 🕊️
    He was the founder of the band and early stages of the band he was the manager of the band
    He was the blues purist that was pleased with his band making the blues music

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 22 дні тому

      Jones did NOT "found"the Rolling Stones. He joined Keith's band the Blues Boys. The only group that Jones founded was the 27 club.

  • @stevep4574
    @stevep4574 28 днів тому +7

    They're still great all these years regardless, but not the same without Brian. Somethings missing 😕 😢 😕 😢

  • @Stublinsky
    @Stublinsky 28 днів тому +4

    "Was Brian JONES So IMPORTANT To The Rolling STONES?"
    Oh I don't know, was Jimmy Page so important to Led Zeppelin ????

  • @jimmeryellis
    @jimmeryellis 15 днів тому +2

    It's a shame that the commentary is klunky computer ai generated speach. Brian Jones was a great musician, my personal favorite Stones album was the US version of Between The Buttons. Though the UK version with two different tracks on it was pretty good too.
    I remember them from that time, and i agree with Frank Zappa's verdict. 'Best album the Stones ever did'.
    :)

  • @dcore64
    @dcore64 16 днів тому

    Brian was the Stones. Period!

  • @zhoulijun6296
    @zhoulijun6296 27 днів тому +4

    Lady Jane is more boroque than psychadelic

    • @JesusMagicPanties
      @JesusMagicPanties 19 днів тому

      Baroque itself as a style is inherently psychedelic especially bearing in mind that Rococo is its crowning glory (even including the very name).

  • @mary-annmckerchar8588
    @mary-annmckerchar8588 28 днів тому +5

    "I was trying to get a band going but I was unsuccessful until I joined up with Mick and Keith." Straight from the horse's mouth

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 27 днів тому +3

      As were Mick and Keith before they joined up with Brian. What was your point again?

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому

      Brian was UNSUCCESSFUL at trying to start his own band, so he asked Keith if he and Ian could join Keith's band and Keith agreed.
      Funny that Brian Jones worshipers will not believe Brian's own words when it doesn't fit their narrative..

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому

      @@TheaterPup The point is that Mick and Keith and Dick Taylor WERE successful at starting a band who sounded very impressively just like the Rolling Stones six months BEFORE Brian joined them. The recordings they made prove that out, puppy. Jagger's unmistakable vocal style and Keith's eclectic and driving rhythm and blues guitar sound are there on early Blues Boys recordings well before Brian joined, for anyone to hear.

    • @lylecampbell9036
      @lylecampbell9036 24 дні тому

      ​@@williardbillmore5713BS

    • @lylecampbell9036
      @lylecampbell9036 24 дні тому

      ​@@williardbillmore5713BS

  • @ClassicRockFilms
    @ClassicRockFilms 29 днів тому +3

    any band today would have split royalties equally - Bill Started riff for Jumping Jack Flash Etc Etc - but hey Mick & Keith were in control

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому

      Mick and Keith WROTE THE SONGS.
      That is why they got the credits.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 26 днів тому +1

      Queen had the right idea by sharing credit. Not only is it fair, it more accurately reflects the song writing process.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 25 днів тому

      @@TheaterPup Queen had the right idea for a band where all four of them could and did write hit records. The Rolling Stones did not have that luxury. Only Mick and Keith had the ability to write hit records so they had to do things differently.
      Lyric and melodies only came to two of them.

    • @donaldcolucci2557
      @donaldcolucci2557 14 днів тому

      @@williardbillmore5713 I doubt no one else was involved in writing ,but the glimmer twins are good,occasionally really good , but never as entertaining as they were when Brian was with them Heck the greatful dead wanted to kick jerry out of the band because of his drug habit -….naturally 2guys with huge egos like Mck and Keith are just going to say “F “
      that dude ,besides that means more dope for them, although I don’t think they did that sort of thing 🤔

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 13 днів тому

      @@donaldcolucci2557 Most fans would disagree with your assessment...The general consensus among Stones fans is that they did their best work in the early 70s just after Jones departed..
      None of the band were complete strangers to drug use but Jones was over the top obsessed with being as high as he could be all of the time.
      Mick points out that Brian could no longer function as a musician, but in fact, we all found out that he could no longer function as a human being.

  • @79tazman
    @79tazman 20 днів тому +1

    If there was no Brian Jones there would of been no Rolling Stones so how is that to answer the "Was Brian Jones so important to the rolling stones" question. It's like asking how important was Jim Morrison to the Doors.

  • @franktaconelli9095
    @franktaconelli9095 26 днів тому +4

    since it was Brian’s band I would think he was important! and Mick Taylor is one of the most inspired, soulful guitar virtuosos on the planet; the fact we’re still discussing the Stones in 2024 is due to the on-stage reputation they earned during the Mick Taylor years

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому

      The Rolling Stones were NEVER " Brian's band"
      They were ALWAYS Keith's band as they remain to this day.

  • @briandillon8041
    @briandillon8041 15 днів тому

    The thing, Brian, Jones, and Mick Taylor had in common was that Mick Jagger made sure they never got credited for their writing. therefore never got any royalties. For example, the marimba lick on under my thumb was what the song was built around. But no credit.. So Brian have nothing to live on after being kicked out of the band. His fate was sealed.

  • @gobbism
    @gobbism 18 днів тому +1

    The content is decent but the robot voice gets old.

  • @SargonofQueens
    @SargonofQueens День тому

    I like the stones even though they followed the Beatles’ footsteps and became popular. Because they just did it better.

  • @user-hq4bm5bq4r
    @user-hq4bm5bq4r 2 дні тому

    The Rolling Stones without Brian Jones = ZERO

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 22 дні тому +1

    I gave this channel another chance, but if it’s going to allow the same creepy haters to post, then I’ll stick to the ones with actual Stones fans, and leave this channel to the dregs of troll misery. 😂

  • @thomaswilliams3519
    @thomaswilliams3519 27 днів тому +1

    Great subject matter but this video seems to have an AI kind of repetitiveness.

  • @aileenjackson1706
    @aileenjackson1706 29 днів тому +3

    His parent's should have taken him somewhere for help.

  • @bluehorizons2508
    @bluehorizons2508 14 днів тому

    For me personally, the songs and music of the Rolling Stones during their founding Brian Jones 'era' were FAR better than the later 70s+ pop-rock (mostly) crap they began to churn out!!.. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Bwahzehdezooner
    @Bwahzehdezooner 15 днів тому

    It'd be great if somebody could edit the AI's interpretations of the narration...which is also AI. Watch the homonyms.

  • @dragicavrtelova6332
    @dragicavrtelova6332 4 дні тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @brianbard3410
    @brianbard3410 14 днів тому

    If you ha e ever played with someone who is insecure it's a creative dead end beacuse they can't bring themselves to agree with you, or they don't want to share music and ideas for the spector of everyone out to get insecure passive aggressive people makes it next to impossible at that point why bother, it's going to get stupid

  • @calvinguile1315
    @calvinguile1315 25 днів тому +4

    Everyone always leaves out his creepy, haunting, mellotron touches on Jigsaw Puzzle ❤

  • @jerryrichards8172
    @jerryrichards8172 17 днів тому

    He was important because he started them but the last 50s not much.

  • @terri-b7492
    @terri-b7492 25 днів тому +3

    Was Brian Jones important to The Rolling Stones,he was The Rolling Stones,nuff said

    • @fuchsiaswing8545
      @fuchsiaswing8545 23 дні тому

      No, he wasn’t. And that’s absurd to say that.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 22 дні тому

      @@fuchsiaswing8545Actually he was.

    • @fuchsiaswing8545
      @fuchsiaswing8545 22 дні тому

      @@TheaterPup He wasn't the Rolling Stones. They go nowhere if he’s the principal member. Indeed, he was crucial in their formative years, but you're parroting Bill Wyman’s recollections, which are biased and inaccurate. Bill wasn't even there at the earliest period. Brian couldn't write original material. His guitar playing was below par by the mid-1960s. He was unreliable and futile in the last few years with the band. What you're saying is ridiculous.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 22 дні тому

      @@fuchsiaswing8545 Take that nonsense to your other trolls buddies, sweetie. 😂 I’ll stick with the actual Stones fans.

    • @fuchsiaswing8545
      @fuchsiaswing8545 22 дні тому

      @@TheaterPup Actual Stones fans don't over-romanticize Brian or Mick Taylor. You're the noobs who just discovered the Stones.

  • @davemac9563
    @davemac9563 29 днів тому +4

    He was, and then he wasn’t. Either get with the program and try to change with the group, or go your own way. Sadly he went the wrong way and died too young. I’ll admire and appreciate Brian’s contributions but the fact that the stones are still playing to this day shows Mick and Keith are the ones worth the credit for keeping the band relevant. Brian became more of a legend since he was 27 when he died and was another rock and roll victim that his importance was exaggerated to some degree. For some reason that melancholic attachment society has for these figures overshadows the work of many bands beyond their most popular member

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 27 днів тому +1

      By your logic, the Beatles were no longer relevant after 1970. So yeah, your logic is nonsense. The fact is Brian's influence also kept the band remembered. It's his era hits that most audiences remember (Paint it Black, Ruby Tuesday, etc.).

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому

      The band's success always revolved around the undeniable and unmistakable talents of the bands main writers and performers Mick and Keith.
      Jones was a poser and a hanger on.
      Most of what is written about Brian Jones is sentimental myth and flat out lies.

    • @davemac9563
      @davemac9563 26 днів тому +1

      @@TheaterPup that makes no sense. The Beatles were done, and were already legends even before they broke up. The stones aren’t the same. Brian contributed to hits, but Richards and Jagger still put in more of the work in the songs. Brian couldn’t write songs himself to save his life.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 26 днів тому +1

      @@davemac9563 Honey, Brian was a legend before he died, he was the most popular member of the Stones, and a 60s icon by himself. Multiple sources indicate that Brian would arrange the songs they brought in, which is just as important as writing. He also should have received co-credit on multiple songs. It sounds like you've been listening to some out of date propaganda.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 23 дні тому

      ​@@TheaterPup👈😆
      His era. Not his hits, TheaterPoop.

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 5 днів тому

    Even the early Marquis Club ad said "Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones".
    Interesting...

  • @Bwahzehdezooner
    @Bwahzehdezooner 15 днів тому

    Actually, the intro riff was Keith, on a Les Paul. That doesn't take anything away from Brian, however.

  • @johnmcgettigan4243
    @johnmcgettigan4243 26 днів тому +4

    No Brian No Rolling Stones

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому +1

      No Jones= Better Rolling Stones.
      There best work and greatest success was AFTER 1970.

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 17 днів тому

      @@williardbillmore5713 LIES !

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 17 днів тому

      @@SuperAnimelover100 Oh really??
      Okay so cite for me a period in the band's history when they sold more albums. Filled more arenas ALL OVER THE WORLD and received more critical acclaim,than the four or five years just after they fired the drunk drugged out guy with the fluffy blonde hair.
      No Jones = Better Rolling Stones.

  • @MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb
    @MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb 26 днів тому +4

    Brian Jones remains the founder of The Rolling Stones yet he was given no songwriting credit for his contributions to their music.
    What Jagger-Richards, and Andrew Loog-Oldham, did to Brian Jones's psyche was sinful and will not be forgiven.
    The narrator delivers plenty of mistakes and misinformation to the uninformed, misinformed; including and not limited to confusing a blues song with a psychedelic tune.
    Nevertheless…
    Brian Jones remains one of the most innovative multi-instrumentalists in musicology.
    God Bless Brian Jones.
    Sleep In Heavenly Peace.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 23 дні тому

      Brian didn't compose jackshit.

    • @MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb
      @MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb 23 дні тому +2

      @@TheBatugan77 Imagine “Paint It Black” or “Ruby Tuesday” or “No Expectations” or…
      Without the Inventive Musicianship of Brian Jones.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 22 дні тому

      @@TheBatugan77He composed an entire film score. And he was the arranger for the Stones’ songs. He was their George Martin. You’re not a Stones fan, dude. Jog on.

  • @user-fu2mi1nd5l
    @user-fu2mi1nd5l 26 днів тому

    Of course he was....they needed someone to sacrifice

  • @stu8506
    @stu8506 9 днів тому

    I hate robots.

  • @nihilistlivesmatter
    @nihilistlivesmatter 22 дні тому

    Jones Fantasist Fan boys : 'No Jones no Stones!!! Reeee!!!!'
    Brian Jones :'I was just sort of bumming around waiting for something to happen really you know I had quite a few jobs
    and uh I was trying to get a band going but it was unsuccessful until I met up with Mick and Keith'
    Case closed

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 22 дні тому +1

      It’s called having humility. It’s for intelligent people. You wouldn’t understand.

    • @nihilistlivesmatter
      @nihilistlivesmatter 21 день тому

      @@TheaterPup It's called telling the truth....You wouldn't understand

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 17 днів тому +1

      @@TheaterPup
      You people better listen to , Theater Pup !!!! She told the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH !!! Some people can't handle the TRUTH !! The TRUTH sometimes just HURTS !

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 17 днів тому +1

      @@SuperAnimelover100 😁

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 17 днів тому

      @@TheaterPup :):)

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 21 день тому +1

    Highlighted reply
    @nihilistlivesmatter
    2 hours ago Didn't we debunk this earlier? Tpup deleted the og comment & thread...taking all the replies with it.
    Thne reposted it hoping nobody would notice.........It would be mildy impressive if Brian could tell he was two or three cents out but then anyone who tunes their own instrument (ie guitar) should be able to tell the chords would be off
    But a quarter tone!......Exactly halfway between F & F# for example!! everybody would be able to hear that..even the tea & sandwich lady at olympic studios......it would stick out like a sore thumb.
    The things Brian fanboys cling on to smh

  • @nihilistlivesmatter
    @nihilistlivesmatter 22 дні тому

    In the first two years yes...afterwards not at all more a millstone

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 22 дні тому +1

      So you know nothing about 60s Stones, got it. Next time just lead with that.

    • @nihilistlivesmatter
      @nihilistlivesmatter 21 день тому

      @@TheaterPup I know far far more about them than you

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 19 днів тому

      @@nihilistlivesmatter LOLOL Go play with your sock account, Willard.

    • @mikethebloodthirsty
      @mikethebloodthirsty 18 днів тому +1

      What is your problem exactly?...

    • @nihilistlivesmatter
      @nihilistlivesmatter 18 днів тому

      @@mikethebloodthirsty What exactly is your problem ?...

  • @dailyflash
    @dailyflash 24 дні тому

    Jones was a TERRIBLE human being though. He routinely beat and abused fans and girlfriends.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 24 дні тому

      @@dailyflash That isn’t for you to decide. He likely had psychological issues but the women in his life speak well of him to this day. Stick to the music. This isn’t TMZ.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 23 дні тому

      ​@@TheaterPup
      I'LL decide what I'll decide, pup.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 23 дні тому

      ​@@TheaterPup
      He impregnated numerous women and contributed zilch afterwards. You're a torch carrier, TheaterPoop.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 23 дні тому

      @@TheBatugan77 I’ve decided you’re not a very good troll. 😂

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 22 дні тому

      @@TheBatugan77 You want girls to carry a torch for you? 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • @bluegryp
    @bluegryp 24 дні тому

    Jack of all trades. Master of none.

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 21 день тому +1

    Jones worshippers would have us believe that without Jones the Stones would have never been more than an average bar band, but history tells the opposite story.
    It is noted that the band got bigger and better as soon as they fired Jones and hired a real guitarist to replace him. They started selling out enormous arenas and stadiums all over the world and each new release was met with unanimously positive critical acclaim. None of that COULD have happened with Brian still in the band.
    I have always held the firm belief that Brian had been holding them back from achieving their full creative potential, for years. The numbers and the band's immediate new found success through the early seventies backs that notion up...
    Once they were no longer being dragged down by the nay saying always negative drugged out drunk who was no longer able to function as a human being, let alone a musician, it was like uncorking the Champagne bottle and the new creative material just started gushing out of the whole band like it never had before.

    • @mikethebloodthirsty
      @mikethebloodthirsty 18 днів тому +1

      He may have not been technical but his ear was amazing before the drugs and paranoia got hold of him.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 18 днів тому

      @@mikethebloodthirsty The drugs, booze and paranoia took over pretty early on. No 27 year old has the amount of lver, heart and lung damage and disease that Jones exhibited at his autopsy with only three years of hard abuse.
      Brian could pick out a simple single note melody that someone else had written fairly well but his lack of music theory limited his ability to accompany a singer with anything more comprehensive.
      A child could do what Brian accomplished musically.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 18 днів тому

      @@mikethebloodthirsty The drugs and booze got hold of Brian pretty early on... His liver and heart were enlarged to twice their normal size. Those diseases could not have gotten that severe in only three years. Jones had to have started killing himself with drugs and booze a lot earlier

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 18 днів тому

      @@mikethebloodthirsty The drugs, booze and paranoia took over pretty early on. No 27 year old has the amount of lver, heart and lung damage and disease that Jones exhibited at his autopsy with only three years of hard abuse.
      Brian could pick out a simple single note melody that someone else had written fairly well but his lack of music theory limited his ability to accompany a singer with anything more comprehensive.
      A child could do what Brian accomplished musically.

    • @Bwahzehdezooner
      @Bwahzehdezooner 15 днів тому

      @@williardbillmore5713 you are making a small career out of trashing Jones. I would check in with a shrink if I were you. He didn't deserve your bullshit.

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 26 днів тому +3

    Bullshite. Jones did not found the Rolling Stones and he did not name the band or influence the music that they played.. The Blue Boys, Keith's band, had been playing blues songs and recording them months before Brian Jones asked to join them and they sounded just like the Rolling Stones with Micks unmistakable vocal style and Keith's eclectic and driving rhythm and Blues sound ...without Brian Jones.
    Seven years later Brian left the band and they actually got much better and more successful immediately after Brian departed.
    Almost everything written about Brian Jones are myths and a lies.
    Jones was a poser and a phoney , who got very wealthy and famous on the talents of his bandmates.
    In fact Brian brought very little to The Rolling Stones sound, nothing at all to their catalog and he was the least talented of the entire group.
    He could not write , he could not sing, he could not improvise and he could not dance. At best Brian was a mediocre rhythm guitarist who learned almost everything he did in the band from Keith Richards.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 23 дні тому +1

      Yep.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 23 дні тому +1

      Exactly.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 23 дні тому

      @@TheBatugan77 I have been trying to educate Saint Brian worshippers on the truth about their idol.
      Almost everything written about Brian are lies.

    • @daryljackson3430
      @daryljackson3430 23 дні тому

      So we have been lied to all these years?

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@daryljackson3430 Absolutely, Daryl. You see, Brian was a malignant narcissist and a braggadocious serial compulsive liar. Bill was his best friend in the band, maybe in the world and they roomed together when they were on tour.
      Bill was not in the band for the first eight months after Brian joined, so he knew nothing about how the band formed or who made the decisions or who was in charge... Brian filled his head with lies about how he auditioned and hired the band members, named the band, booked the gigs and was the musical leader deciding what they played and how they played it.
      None of it, of course, was true but Bill believed him , or at least he seemed to believe him.
      After Brian tragically died the only one willing to do interviews about Brian was Bill and he would go on and on retelling the lies that brian had told him over the course of six years . The writers and journalists would then quote Bill as though everything he said was the gospel truth because after all...He was a member of the band wasn't he?...they would never check their source to see if Bill was even in the band at the time he supposedly remembered all the things that he says Brian did... Poor journalism.
      Then all the writers and journalists started quoting and embellishing on each other's gossipy stories as well as quoting Wyman and all his nonsense.
      Thus the legend was born. Complete with made up stories and extended myths about Brian writing many songs without getting credit for his "musical genius" and tales of having his band "stolen" from him..
      One writer ( Paul Trynka) wrote such gushing lies about Brian that some pages in his books contained the words "musical genius" more than the words "the" and "and".
      They always portrayed Mick and Keith as the evil plotters who stole poor Brian's songs and his girl friend and his band and Brian as the angelic victim who fell under their oppression and bullying.
      Nothing could be further from the truth, but It sold books..
      There never was a shortage of musical geniuses in The Rolling Stones but Brian Jones was certainly NOT one of them.
      Jones was a poser, a psychopath and a phoney.

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 21 день тому

    This is the kind of ridiculous story that only a non musician would make up thinking that a quarter tone off is something that only a perfectionist would want to correct.It would have to be some writer, non musician who thinks that a quarter tone was indistinguishable to anyone but a "perfectionist musician"... Absolute BS story... The kind of thing T Puppy will cling to and keep repeating...
    TOO funny for words.
    A quarter tone is about as out of tune as anyone can be and it would be impossible with a recorder.
    Recorders do not ever go out of tune Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 22 дні тому

    Brian Jones was the least talented and the most expendable member of the 1960s Stones as can be witnessed by the fact that just after Jones was fired the band grew in popularity and critical acclaim writing and recording more successful music and better songs.
    Once rid of Jones the band was able to achieve their full creative potential.
    Jones had been holding them back and dragging them down with his drunken drugged out nonsense.
    No Jones = Better Stones.

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 21 день тому

    You see, Brian was a malignant narcissist and a braggadocious serial compulsive liar. Bill was his best friend in the band, maybe in the world and they roomed together when they were on tour.
    Bill was not in the band for the first eight months after Brian joined, so he knew nothing about how the band formed or who made the decisions or who was in charge... Brian filled his head with lies about how he auditioned and hired the band members, named the band, booked the gigs and was the musical leader deciding what they played and how they played it.
    None of it, of course, was true but Bill believed him , or at least he seemed to believe him.
    After Brian tragically died the only one willing to do interviews about Brian was Bill and he would go on and on retelling the lies that brian had told him over the course of six years . The writers and journalists would then quote Bill as though everything he said was the gospel truth because after all...He was a member of the band wasn't he?...they would never check their source to see if Bill was even in the band at the time he supposedly remembered all the things that he says Brian did... Poor journalism.
    Then all the writers and journalists started quoting and embellishing on each other's gossipy stories as well as quoting Wyman and all his nonsense.
    Thus the legend was born. Complete with made up stories and extended myths about Brian writing many songs without getting credit for his "musical genius" and tales of having his band "stolen" from him..
    One writer ( Paul Trynka) wrote such gushing lies about Brian that some pages in his books contained the words "musical genius" more than the words "the" and "and".
    They always portrayed Mick and Keith as the evil plotters who stole poor Brian's songs and his girl friend and his band and Brian as the angelic victim who fell under their oppression and bullying.
    Nothing could be further from the truth, but It sold books..
    There never was a shortage of musical geniuses in The Rolling Stones but Brian Jones was certainly NOT one of them.
    Jones was a poser, a psychopath and a phoney.