The term "Native American" encompasses all Indigenous peoples of the Americas, including those in Mexico, making "Native Mexicans" an accurate and specific reference within this broader context.
@@evoinception there is not such a thing as non native mexicans... Well there is a saying xD but the mean is you can just say mexicans bc we are more mestizos than the unaitedstatians, even so but whatever to help thee sleep
@@evoinception100% and immigration laws need to be updated and reflect safe/free passage granted for work and travel, per Geneva convention. For millennia people were here.
@@evoinception Absolutely, because this documentary is referring to Native Mexicans specifically not South American or Canadian Natives. Excellent documentary.
@@evoinception that is true Mexicans were considered Indians or native Indians or too indigenous for the USA make legal and withold or keep territorial treaties; as we all know they made they didn't honor any treat with the native Americans
I live in Utah. But my family is from Michoacán. According to my DNA analysis, my community sits between Jalisco & Michoacán. I'm 69% indigenous of mostly mesoamerican. I'm dark & short. But I love my history. I'm likely to be of Purépecha descent.
The tests are limited for Native peoples when compared to other groups of people. Overall, they aren’t really accurate - hence at the bottom it is stated that is for entertainment purposes only. Plus I wouldn’t believe in it since they altered a lot of things from the beginning, like ➡️ Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
Same here. My family is from that region as well. My dad is short and dark and my mom is short and white. My dad's side is also probably Purepecha. My mom's side lived isolated in the mountains and is all white people.
they came with the bible in their hand ".... they saw our beautiful land. they taught us how to close our eyes and pray , when we opened them , we had their bible and they had our land....
@@MacarenaWalsh what garbage revisionism, Cortez army was 95% nativez, they loath the status quoa. But sure swallow the black legend and stay a victim...
My parents are indigenous and speak their native tongue. Anthropologists have done some research on our people and I have read articles due to the rugged terrain of Oaxaca Mexico, a lot of natives lived in isolation from modern society for a long time. It’s crazy because since migrating to the States, people often mistake my cousins and I being from the Philippines, Japan, or Hawaii at times. I think it has to do with the shape of our eyes. lol
On my dads side I have relatives that have been mistaken for Asian . One cousin who is a doctor and at his clinic he has been mistaken for being Japanese , Philippine etc . They are surprised to find out of his Mexican- Indian heritage . Purépecha - Michoacan from his mother , Durango and Sinaloa indigenous from his father.
Some people in Mexico often use nationalism as a way to self describe themselves, which can be extremely problematic. I have Native ancestry from the geographic area of what is now Mexico, but my family has just always said we are Native in particular Wixarika/Cora. So, just saying I am Mexican really just erases the ancestral history of my community because people often just assume I'm either Mexica or Mayan, which is not the case for me.
@@brianlombera1826 Well, learn all you can about your ppl n inform others, only way to keep your ppl relevant.. Too many tribes n ppls have gone extinct, never to be known again..
Gracias por el estudio. Yo he vivido en diferentes partes de México y confirmo que cada región es diferente por su gente nativa. Por eso hay tanta diversidad en este territorio. Yo soy norteña y mi abuelo se parece mucho a los nativos norteamericanos. Creo que cada mexicano tiene una línea genética que terminaría originandose en alguna de las etnias que mencionaste. Otra de mis abuelas era española y por mi papá, un ancestro francés. Un abrazo, me suscribo, gracias 🥰.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial. Also Sėė 📚➡️ The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE By Victor Mejia
@@AL20199 Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible. Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial. Also Sėė 📚➡️ The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE By Victor Mejia
Man it seems like people cant enjoy content or analyze presentation of data without getting mad and assuming some sort of evil motive. Even if this information is not correct just calm down. This guys is almost certainly not presenting it with mal intent. Please i beg you!
@@evoinceptionyou do a good job of presenting a complex subject. It's really interesting to learn about the different indigenous people's and different areas across the Americas, their genetic connections and their diversity, their lifestyles... So much more to learn about these special people's. Thank you
I don’t think people understand, Mexico has more indigenous people in its territory than the combined number of native Americas from the other countries in the Americas, it’s around 25 million natives in Mexico, give or take 18% of its entire population.
While Mexico does have a significant Indigenous population, the figure of 25 million seems to be an overestimate. According to official statistics, the Indigenous population in Mexico is around 10 to 15 million, depending on how Indigenous identity is defined and measured.
I would think 25 million is under stating there are whole tribes that’s are considered extinct but the people are still there my wife is from such areas
How do you define Native Americans? Pre Europeans? Pre modern Asians? Last Ice Age migration by foot or by canoe? Pre historic, Bronze Age or Iron Age? Aren’t they all native if they are born in Mexico? If they came from Peru but born in Mexico, are they native to Mexico?
You forgot OASISAMERICA! It includes Northern states of Chihuahua, Sonora and Arizona New Mexico and California the last three use to be Mexican Territory! DNA of indigenous Mexicans who migrated to California as hunter gatherers was found and it dates back to 5,200 years old!🇲🇽
the research study primarily focused on Mesoamerican and Aridoamerican regions in Mexico, which may explain why Oasisamerica wasn't specifically highlighted but you make an excellent point, adding it will. only make findings better ...
Research in academia is often separated because of border politics and, therefore, the communities at the border are often left out of these studies. You also have to remember that the current or geographic location of Mexico doesn't really mean anything to the context of studying the history of native peoples other than colonialism.
Don't forget that California , New Mexico, Texas , Arizona, part of woyomin were mexican territories of Coahuila state , chihuahua state and Sonora state ..so anybody can understand why some of the ones responsansable on these issues want to separate the reality of mexicans living in the now US southern states ....still controversial issue nowdays !!
@JorgeGarcia-mh5il regardless it does not mean those communities are Mexican. Yes, some people may identify as it, but just saying that because it used to be a Spanish territory does not mean those people identify as Mexican. There are many native communities that are not from the Mexica tribal nation but yet live under its nationalism.
@@brianlombera1826 !! Never being spanush territories they were invaders until got them out....and of course not only mexicas , they were apache, Navajo, Mohicans , teotihuacans , mayas , chichimecas , toltecas , tarahunaras etc etc ....after all they all were the indigenous people from north America and the mexicans have their DNA and not only from the mexica culture but from the nayans all the way to the southern states of the now US ...that's not my opinion but History books !!
Thank you for your informative documentary. I'm Zapotec Mesoamerican Indigenous on my mother's side Aridoamerican Indigenous from Nazas Durango. I'm most humbled by the grace of God to be indigenous to this sacred beautiful land, the American continent, not the Americas, a single supercontinent the most beautiful plentiful land on earth.
This might be irrelevant but I’ve noticed in my experience that the taller Mexicans tend to be the ones with more native phenotypes even though most people would assume it’s the ones with higher euro genetics.
In general, Indigenous Mexicans come from diverse genetic backgrounds, and height is not solely determined by ancestry. Diet, health, and other environmental factors also play a significant role. Therefore, it's not uncommon for individuals with more Indigenous traits to be tall, just as height can vary among those with more European ancestry.
I don't think you are wrong, my paternal lineage is indigenous and im 5'11. the indigenous were the tallest until the conquest, with enslavement, murdering 80% of the population change of diet, our people shrunk. malnutrition
my grandma, who is from south eastern michoacan, told me that her grandpa who spoke a native language was really tall! i have a picture of him and he has very indigenous features!
I did one of those dna tests and I came up 85% Central State of Mexico with the rest being a mix of Sardinian North African and Spanish. I thought it was crazy how concentrated my Mexican dna is.
Please be consistent in your description of groups , you can’t say American natives referring to the United States and Mexican natives for the Mexican ones .absolutely every native in this continent is Native American.
when discussing specific regions, it’s also accurate to refer to Indigenous groups by their more localized identities, such as Native Mexicans or Native Canadians, to clarify the context of the discussion.
@@evoinceptionthey are all native americans, say northern or southern or central…their genetics didn’t change when the US won the mexican american war.
@@veronicagarcia2682dude, shut up! Yes they are actually genetically different by their location. By your standards every European regardless of north or south, east or west, Europe or Eurasia are genetically the same. That would apply to every African, Asian or middle easterner. A ludicrous assumption! Your statement is ridiculous and you’re trying to confuse the language. The guy made a great and interesting video and you are nitpicking and obfuscating the language with wokery. Stop being a weakling and becoming wounded by words. And these are words that are not even offensive but are informative.
I have always wondered why my cousins vary so much in physical appearance, especially comparing to my siblings and myself. Some of us/them look indigenous Mexican, some look white, some look Spanish and others look more Asian. Straight hair, curly hair, blonde, brunette, brown eyes, blue and green…we are a very diverse group.
The Aridoamerica extends from the north of Mexico and Southwest United States some cultures of this area was de Mogollon Culture this culture extended from in Chihuahua Mexico and New Mexico in United States. Mesoamerica extends from Central and South Mexico and north of Guatemala, in the Prehispanic times the migration of nomadic tribus from north to south, Aridoametica to Mesoamerica was very comun, for example the Aztecs or Mexicas they migrated from Aridoamerica to the Mesoamerica aswell as the Toltecs around 900bc, the Mayas at the South in Yucatan part of Mesoamerica, some studies sugest they migrated from South to North, from Guatemala to Yucatan Mexico. In the map don’t show but, Aridoamerica extended to from Texas and Tamaulipas too, in Tamaulipas and Texas with the Coahuiltecan tribus. The Baja California Peninsula was part of Aridoametica too with the Kiliwas, Yumas, and Cucapas, tribus. The Utoaztecs familes lenguages, spreds from Wayoming and Colorado in United States to Central Mexico, this famliy lenguages was the lenguage of the Aztecs or Mexicas the Nahuatl lenguage.
Even more important than knowing the genetic and original makeup of mexicans and nativeamericans is to find ways to preserve it. Mexicans and nativemaricans who have acquired a truly decolonized mindset and know their true history make a conscious choice to end with the vicious cycle of diluting our native blood with foreigners. This vicious cycle of dilution can only be stopped through a decolonial education
@@evoinception He makes an excellent point but for all the wrong reasons, just look at his profile picture, does it remind you of any other symbol? He's an Indigenous neo-fascist. We need to decolonise our minds, I agree, but we don't need to go to the other extreme and argue for any type of blood purity.
@@JCarlosCS1221 Those symbols aren’t specifically Nzi Grmany (besides that one was backwards). You can find almost exact symbols in ancient Americas, Asia and Africa as well. The swastika remains a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Thailand, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan, and by some peoples, such as the Navajo people of the Southwest United States. Also….. on top of that, when have Mxicns ever created h8 groups? That’s more like another groups of people.
How can I find out where my grandfather and grandmother's bloodline come from ? all I know is the regions from Mexico like Aguascalientes and Durango and other parts
CRI Genetics found Peruvian twice and Mexican and Columbian markers in my DNA sample. Other more general DNA Asian markers as well. I have Powhatan/Patawomeck ancestry as well as some Cherokee through the Gipson lineage which is a Melungeon family I understand The first Peruvian marker was dated to approximately 1100s which is a bit before Columbus and his buddies sailed to the New World. The other Peruvian marker dates to near the birth of my one grandfather who was an eighth Powhatan/Patawomeck and descended from KaOkee Jane who was the daughter of Pocahontas and Kocoum. She was raised by the Patawomeck and married into the tribe. Which is why she survived. If you look at facial features and headdress styles you can see resemblances between those tribal groups farther south. Tribal leaders told the whites that they knew of the tribes to the south in Mexico and beyond. Claimed to have traded with them, but it was discounted as impossible. I think DNA markers in my saliva verifies contact of an interpersonal nature.
Your DNA results showing markers from Peru, Mexico, and Colombia reflect shared ancient ancestry rather than direct recent contact. While Indigenous trade networks did exist, DNA similarities across regions are more about common ancestry over thousands of years rather than specific interactions. Your findings add to the understanding of how interconnected these ancient populations were, but interpreting them accurately requires considering the long and complex history of human migration.
What a bunch of poppycock! No dear the timeline data shows the recent additions to my lineage and these markers are included along with the Swiss and the Norwegian. Recent additions. Well not yesterday, but within the last 15 generations. The ancient DNA shows common ancestry with Asians now residing in Vietnam and Japan and India and the Middle East. The ones mentioned above are in the recent section and tagged with timeline estimations and several of those have been verified as accurate. Which proves the algorithm is valid and accurate. I proved it out.
@@grandam195Which DNA test gives you that much information? I am 47% Native of the Americas with 0.0 central/South Asian and 0.7 East Asian. I know my great grandmother was Jèmez Pueblo with geneology , but no DNA test has ever told me specific regions.
About the more recent population changes in mexico when the spaniards started to settle in northern mexico ( from tamualipas to sonora ) alongside them many native americans from various tribes (tlaxcalans , mexica , purepechas etc. ) and mestizos from central and to a lesser degree southern mexico joined them to settle the northern lands and were needed to settle with and pacify different tribes as well as for agriculture , as soldiers , colonists , and also due to the huge mining boom in the 1600s and 1700s in the northern states of mexico it attracted migrants from all around mexico and created a unique mixture which mostly corresponds to mestizo genetic groups on top of that athabaskan tribes and other northern tribes started migrating in mass into the southwestern united states and some ended up trickling into northern mexico and some ended up in northern mexico as slaves for the spanish and eventually assimilated into the mestizo gene pool around the 1600s - 1700s
Being a "mestizo" I do find it interesting how I have blood ties to the old world and new world. On one side the ancestors were tribals living in Mexico for thousands of years while the other ancestors were living in southern Spain, also fod thousands of years
Read more about your heritage, you might find they were not very tribal. I found out the Zapotec were excellent metallurgists and fought against the Aztec Alliance
There’s chatter that the Aztecs came from “Utah” area, came to the valley in central “Mexico”. The U.S immigrated to Mexico “illegally” then lately the Mexicans immigrated “illegally” to the U.S ….basically just sit back and watch,It’s like a Netflix’s series.
The idea that the Aztecs (Mexicas) originally came from the region that is now Utah is linked to the legend of Aztlán, a mythical ancestral homeland mentioned in Aztec lore. However, the exact location of Aztlán has never been definitively identified, and it's considered more of a symbolic place in Aztec mythology rather than a specific geographic location in the modern U.S.Regarding migration, the movement of people across what is now the U.S.-Mexico border has been ongoing for thousands of years, long before the establishment of modern nation-states. Indigenous peoples, including those who eventually became the Aztecs, migrated and settled in different regions over time.
The indigenus population in Mexico its about 10 millons people of a total population in Mexico of 130 millons people, the mayority of the mexicans are mestizos or mixed blod, like me, my DNA test results of 23 and me its, 58% iberian from Galicia an Basque from Spain, 38% indigenus from Jalisco and Michoacan Mexico, 2% French from Bretaña, and 2% African from Congo, like my the mayority of the mexican population are mestizos, great video crongatulations.
It’s actually 11 million in identified so called Indian households however the total number by including natives that now about their mixed past and/or speak a native language is close to 25 million.
@salvadorlopez1814 Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible. Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial. Also Sėė 📚➡️ The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE By Victor Mejia
@@Egr-et6arBut all that with the DNA test all the true its reveal, the great mayority of the Mexican population are Mestizos, even with the DNA tests we see the Mexicans are more Mestizos than we thought, in Mexico we are proude of our amerindian background, and proude of our spanish backgrounds as well we are proude of our africans background.
Some writers inThe United States for centuries has been layed to the mexicans in the Mexican History, saing all Mexican are natives indigenus, your not have spanish roots, they only conquer and toked your gold, but thank to the cience, and with the DNA tests made form many Univesrsities not only for Mexico, for all over de world, the true its reavil, the mexicans are more Mestizos more mixed blod than we previos toghut, the great mayority of the Mexican we are Mestizos, and even the mexicans amerindians in a lot of cases have some of europeans in the genetics and the mexicans wish they belive ara pure europeans have some amerindian in the genetic tests, now all that history in papers an documents saing this or that, are not useful any more, the Genetics and DNA test reveal the all the true.
I lost the progress of the comment I was drafting, I will try to find it. In summary the idea is to enter into a collaboration agreement with a DNA analyst like Ancestry. I guess that there is a good market nowadays, like me that I have about 50% of Native American DNA, I would love to learn where they are from. And in the US there are about 50 million Hispanics (no Latinos please). Wonderful work, thank you. It is a fascinating topic that approach history in general with 😊personal history.
The tests are limited for Native peoples when compared to other groups of people. Overall, they aren’t really accurate - hence at the bottom it is stated that is for entertainment purposes only. Lastly…. the terms Hispanic and Latino were coined onto the people by the Richard Nixon administration during the 1970s.
According to my DNA, I am 31% Mexican Native American. The states include Chijuajua and Durango. I wish my DNA results could show which tribes specifically are part of my heritage. I would love to research them. But it seems there isn't enough data yet to get specifics.
The tests are limited for Native peoples when compared to other groups of people. Overall, they aren’t really accurate - hence at the bottom it is stated that is for entertainment purposes only.
93% of Mexico is mixed indigenous or full blooded indigenous, FACT, the problem is , is many people have the idea of a “Indian” or Native American is someone who is extinct or not around anymore or someone that looks like the plains peoples that hunted buffalos, the problem is, is simply jealousy and envy, a lot of people can’t accept that the people they go to school with and the people they make fun of for having a accent of being dark or short or illegal, it’s hard for people to accept that those people are the original people of this land, it’s hard to accept that the person whos not even from here, is darker then you, smaller then you, has a culture like that, u see the same defeated,hatred,envy look on every persons face when u tell them a Mexican is more then a Mexican, that kinda racism u can’t make up with anybody else that’s imbedded hatred
While it's true that a large portion of Mexico's population has Indigenous ancestry, it's not accurate to say that 93% of the population is either fully Indigenous or mixed Indigenous. The reality is that Mexico is a diverse country with a complex history of Indigenous, European, African, and other ancestries blending over centuries. The misconception that Indigenous people are extinct or only fit a specific image is harmful and overlooks the rich and living cultures that continue to thrive in Mexico today.
Most people in Mexico or of Mexican descent are not indigenous but rather mestizo, meaning they have a mixture of indigenous, European, and African ancestry.
@@giacobbeperales5926 Stop with the lies you just keep making up. You can travel all over Mexico except Vera Cruz and costa Chica and never bump into a black afro descendant. I just spent 3 years in Michoacán, greater Mexico city and its surroundings and all I saw was Indigenous faces. Its undeniable. I have a bet going with my friends that you can travel in most of Mexico and never bump into an Afro descendant. Every now and then you would see very light complected people but they where usually always recent arrivals.
The Indigenous Identity is the in every aspect of Mexican culture. Every Mexican will have Native/Indigenous Ancestory to some compassity weather they are Mestizo or Afro-Mexican. But I always say Mexico is an Indigenous land & will always be. The name Mexico is Indigenous. When the country gained Independence from Spain they named the country after the tribe who inhabited pre-colonial Mexico City (Tenochtitlan) The Mexica. & til this day the people still remain.
@@robyenney951your professor apparently ignored the northern and west pacific non meztiso European/Iberian Mexican which reduces the meztiso population to 65 to 70%.
you can have a look at the abstract but still for you - The researchers found that the genetic structure of the indigenous Mexican populations is strongly influenced by geography. They observed three main genetic clusters corresponding to the northern, central/southern, and southeastern regions of Mexico. They also found evidence of a decline in the effective population size of all tested populations between 15-30 generations ago, coinciding with the beginning of European colonization. Comparisons with ancient genomes revealed that some indigenous Mexican populations may carry additional ancestry from a population that split before the Anzick-1 individual, who is closely related to Mesoamerican and South American populations.
Kickapoo indians are from MICHIGAN and WISCONSIN. A small group (16) arrived in Tamaulipas in1849, fleeing from U.S. Gatlin Guns. They now enjoy more privileges in México than mexicans... 😮Come to Coahuila and see for yourself.
the idea that they "enjoy more privileges" than other Mexicans is an oversimplification. Indigenous groups in Mexico often face significant challenges, and their rights are designed to protect their cultural identity and way of life, not to grant them undue privileges.
It is interesting to come to a site like this with an open mind and no agenda except to learn something about yourself and your family. I learned today that the Mexican part of me comes from what is being called the arido region of Mexico. I have some information about the indigenous people who lived in the area my Mexico family comes from. Have an open mind, no agenda and accept whatever the truth turns out to be ( I can't change it anyway.) You will learn something.
Yes, my maternal ancestors are from Nazas Durango. AridAmerica. !the desert) My paternal ancestors are from Oaxaca Mesoamerica. You must also know that America is a single Supercontinent ( not the Americas to refer to it is wrong) from the Bering Strait to Tierra del Fuego the land of the Amerindian. The USA as a figure of speech appropriated the nickname America, and America for their citizens. America is our Continent continent not a country. therefore in the Internationa competition in the parade of nations at the Olympics the US marches in at the end for the United States, not at the beginning for A . and when people yell supporting the USA team they never say America, America, neither, sports commentators use the nickname America won first place but rather the formal correct name USA..
Native Mexican is anybody born in Mexico, I think you meant Native Americans and there is only one America divided in North, South, and Central America. You will never call Africa "The Africas" only because there is a South and North Africa
The study did indeed refer to Native Mexicans, specifically focusing on the Indigenous peoples of Mexico. These groups, like the Aztecs, Mayans, and others, are distinct Indigenous cultures with deep historical roots in the region.
I descend from people in the southern part of Zacatecas,MX the native group there was the Caxcanes who were also in Jalisco MX they were not Aztecs. My bloodline is a mix of Caxcan from Zacatecas and spaniard I'm light skinned but my granpa looks like john redcorn from king of the hill in the same family our complexion can vary from looking like german white guys to dark brown complexion but we come from the same grandparents.
Do NOT say " Americas" . There is just one America continent. From Alaska to Chile and Argentina. Do you say Europes? Do you say Africas? Do you say Asias?
This plural form is a way to respect the distinct identities within this large and varied region, much like we might refer to "the British Isles" or "the Caribbean Islands" to recognize multiple, related places.But you have the full right to object to it ...
My husband is slim part Tarahumara and Apache. But his immigration process they don't want to claim him native American. They want to claim him white. I'm from Michoacán and part purépecha and European and it was easy peasy for me. Our kids don't speak spanish only our 3 native languages and English.
@@saucytony4609 When people talk about raza, it's about nationality not race. Also mexican americans took that word and used it for other stuff. In northern mexico it was originally used for group of friends or a crew.
A small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible. Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial. Also Sėė 📚➡️ The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE By Victor Mejia
@@Egr-et6ar They weren’t “a small group of people”. Spaniards immigrated for hundreds of years to Mexico. You know, you really don’t know as much history as you think you do.
Very well done video, our history & genetics are far more complex than previously thought, historians, genealogists, anthropologists & scientologist's have limited understanding of our history with little known facts about our origins, our history is so misunderstood & damaged that many people will believe anything about our people. Our history as a people are older than many old & modern theories that the world had used on our people, the only way to find out who we are as the indigenous peoples of Turtle Island, the world must look at our indigenous history without having a eurocentric point of view. As being indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere, we are in fact considered ourselves as the people of here between the waters. Each of our native languages, we do infact call ourselves the people, in other words, we're the human beings.
Your first point is correct , regarding "America," it's widely accepted in geography that the term "Americas" is used to refer collectively to the two continents of North America and South America, which include Central America and the Caribbean.
@@evoinception No son 2 continentes es uno solo América lo demás solo es para ser más específico pero en el mundo solo hay 5 continentes en US enseñan mal que hay muchas américas
@@JesusEmanuelAguilar-ff3nzEstás confundido, dos placas tectónicas han creado los dos continentes. Hay científicos que ya han mostrado la evidencia, deja de ser un bebé chillón
This is my statement - "Mexico has long served as a natural passageway for human migration between North America and Central and South America." Its not wrong at all , there is a difference between being "part of" and being a "passageway."
Why does it say “Mexican Genetics” when you’re talking about the Indigenous of Mexico only?? Most of Mexico has European genetics as well… why does everyone gloss over it??
because they are the natives and later admixture tool place as explained, so Mexico from the early years of it populating and then how it spread across the Americas, your point of view is of more recent history when demographics changes after colonisation ...
@@evoinception Then it would be “Pre-Columbian genetics of Mexico” or something similar. The word México, although coming etymologically from ‘Mexica’, has only ever been used for the Kingdom of México created in 1527, or the “Imperio Mexicano”/Mexican Empire at independence in 1821 (Mexico as a republic coming a couple years later). The name itself is a Viceregal period invention. I know most people don’t know this, but it helps to keep order and prevent people from continuously getting a wrong picture of things. I apologize but I feel strongly about this because it seems everyone wants to erase the average Mexican’s European heritage or doesn’t want to recognize it.
@@evoinception If you made a video thumbnail that said “Mexican Genetics” and did our European genetics that would even it out and reflect our reality. But anyway, thanks for the reply.
@@mdc3148 i can understand, genetics can be emotive especially when admixture is involved and the original people become some what rare and the admixed one become dominant , but the video does talk about this as well ...
@@mdc3148 “The word Mexico, although coming from etymologically from ‘Mexica,’ Has only ever been used for the kingdom of Mexico created in 1526, or the Mexican empire at independence in 1821.” Contradicted yourself at the beginning. Anyhow, Tenochtitlan, was also known as Mexico Tenochtitlan.
Thank you. Its really easy to distinguish people, tongues, tribes. You have indigenous folk, regional folk. An antiquated term which is textbook-friendly: mestizo. A mestizo is a Euro/indigenous person. Whatever national, cultural liguistic ties and allegiances they have may be distinct-independent of the localized trends established in near-history. At times it behooves us to ask or let the person identify their particular outlook and disposition. Not every Mexican is indigenous and not every mestizo recognizes "Latin". Imagine there are people in UK who were part of the Roman invasion who have more Latin in them than indigenous persons whose "Euro" blood-none...genetics is not complicated; it has been severely convoluted by time, culture, belief and sense of identity. In short, your parents can tell you what you are but the person must strive to learn what they are not.
@@evoinception just a whimsical rhetorical reverie about UK folks comin here branding folks with the same UK blood with less Latin running through their DNA than them. Isn't that comical? Theres nothing wrong with the terms-its everything How They Are Applied, To Whom, To What End. It's akin To a Majikal Binding...am exempt of course
Yes, there was a study that suggested ancient contact between Polynesians and Indigenous peoples in South America, specifically involving the transfer of the sweet potato, known as "kumara" in Polynesia. There is a video on that on my channel as well, you can check it out ...
I am from the Huasteca Potosina, here live Nahuas (of the same language as the Mexica), Teenek (the only Mayan language outside the traditional Mayan area) and Pames. The difference between them is only the language since they always live together even if they have their traditional areas. I am mestizos but living in the Huasteca one is very exposed to indigenous cultures, to their traditional costumes, to how they handle each other. Some indigenous communities are very open and friendly, many others are very open and friendly. Others are stricter and more closed, but in my own family I have Afro-Mexican cousins and native cousins, it's part of living here. I know that in other parts of Mexico this does not happen but the Huastecs are different from the rest of Mexico, even the Nahuas of the Huasteca are very different from the one in the Valley of Mexico.
Thank you for sharing your experience from the Huasteca Potosina. The study highlights the rich diversity of Indigenous groups in Mexico, including the Nahua, Teenek, and Pames, each with distinct cultural identities, despite living in close proximity. The Teenek being a Mayan language spoken outside the traditional Mayan area is a fascinating example of the linguistic and cultural diversity within Indigenous communities. The study supports the idea that Indigenous groups in regions like the Huasteca maintain their unique traditions while often coexisting and interacting with neighboring communities, contributing to the complex cultural landscape in Mexico.
Makes you wonder how a branch of Aridoamericans managed to conquer most of Mesoamérica? By the time the Spanish arrived, Nahuatl was the De Facto language for the entire region.
The spread of Nahuatl as the dominant language in Mesoamerica is closely tied to the rise of the Mexica, who were originally from the Aridoamerican region.
The mexicans has a little of african ancestry too, somo mexican has between 2% to 4% in some cases 6% of African ancestry, even in some parts of Oaxacas cost more than that, the called Afromexicans
Some regions in Veracruz , Oaxaca y Guerrero too, I went to Acapulco and visited Costa chica y Taxco and I saw a lot Afromexicans . Greetings from The Sonoran desert 🌵 Mexico 🇲🇽
I’m about 10% African my mother is around 23% and Grandfather was around 37% the rest was Native and Spanish. They were from a coastal town from Michoacán by Colima. They have a very interesting look. Imagine a native with a slight Fro 😂.
All good but I've never seen a map of Aridamerica which includes Sinaloa. Mesoamerica's northwestern limit has always been placed at least in Culiacan. Also in the gulf, the Huasteca region always considered to be Mesoamerican reaches up to Tamaulipas.
@@teresaguerrasalazar El norte de Sinaloa tambien es parte de esa zona. Los grupos indigenas del norte de Sinaloa pertenecen a Aridoamerica y tienen mas conexion con los grupos de Sonora.
Depende en que parte de Sinaloa. El norte de Sinaloa tambien es parte de esa zona. Los grupos indigenas del norte de Sinaloa pertenecen a Aridoamerica y tienen mas conexion con los grupos de Sonora.
The majority of Mexicans with Indigenous ancestry trace their roots to Indigenous civilizations within Mexico itself, such as the Aztecs, Maya, and other Mesoamerican cultures. There are some shared ancestry and cultural ties between groups in northern Mexico and the southwestern United States, particularly among tribes like the Apache, Yaqui, and others. However, the idea that a large portion of the Mexican population directly descends from Western U.S. natives is not supported by the broader genetic and historical evidence, which shows more localized origins within Mexico.
@@evoinceptionAridoAmerica and OasisAmerica. The Uto-Aztecan language family is one of the largest linguistic families in the Americas in terms of number of speakers, number of languages, and geographic extension. The northernmost Uto-Aztecan language is Shoshoni, which is spoken as far north as Salmon, Idaho, while the southernmost is the Pipil language of El Salvador and Honduras.
@@evoinception I from Mexico and physicaly speaking a can tell when there is a Apache Hopi they look very much like Mexicans especially the northern part of Mexico the Yucatan Mexicans have a Mayan face especially the nose. Another fact during the Trail of tears alot of Cherokee migrated into Mexico. Just like the Kikapoo tribe from Michigan.
The western states are the portion of Mexico that the US appropriated from Mexico. Absolutely, all of my maternal grandparents are from Nazas Durango Mexico( Indios Nazas) which flourished alongside the majestic river Father Nazas, they fish with baskets and use the bow and arrow for hunting. My maternal haplogroup B2b situates me among the Indigenous women inhabiting northern Mexico, the US southwest, encompassing California, Florida, and as far north as Oklahoma. Absolutely, all of my paternal ancestors are from Tehuantepec Oaxaca the cradle of the Zapotec Nation, and the cradle of Mexican food. I bear the image that the sacred soil of the American Continent gave me to survive on it, I am the natural selection for the survival of the species, my destiny is tied to the land, these are natural laws that no man can change. "Thou shall not evict the people from their land, it is a sin".
>Spanish - From Spain >Hispanic - From the iberian peninsula Spain or Portugal (Hispania Roman times) >Latino - Coming from a latin base (Italy, Spain, France, Portugal and Romania) >Latin - No longer existing people who live in Rome, Italy and created the Latin languages
Why does UA-cam creator show American Indians and their history while explaining Mexican origin? Clovis culture and people were ancient North American Indian found in Central Plains of USA. Many photos shown are American Indians found in Central USA to Canadian Rockies, not from Mexico.
The inclusion of American Indian images and references, such as those related to the Clovis culture, in discussions about Mexican origins is actually quite relevant. The Clovis culture, which dates back over 13,000 years, is one of the earliest known cultures in North America and has been found across much of the continent, including parts of Mexico.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial. Also Sėė 📚➡️ The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE By Victor Mejia
The concept of mestizaje indeed has complex implications, as it was used to both unify and marginalize. It’s important to recognize that while many Mexicans today identify as mestizo, this identity encompasses a wide range of cultural and ancestral backgrounds, including significant Indigenous heritage. The discussion around mestizaje is ongoing, and it remains a crucial part of understanding Mexico’s social and cultural history.
@@evoinception Spaniards are only 100k or so of the population (officially stated 🇪🇸 officials) in MX and afroMexicans are only 1% percent of the population but magically every Mxicn is mixd with Spniard and African. It still doesn’t add up….
If there is a reason we cant get together as native americans from the patagonia to Alasca is because Mexicans keep claiming they are somehow they were the only natives in America. It wasnt called america, It wasnt called mexico. You didnt even mentioned Incas, tainos or even Mayans. What's your problem?
There is no need to make personal attacks, i mentioned the groups that are in study , i cannot make things up, for the Incas and Tainos, i will look for separate research and post ...
The eastern coast of America meshes well with the western coast of Europe and Africa, yet no one seems to think that some ancestors may have come from there, as well as the western coast of Asia. AND, since people "sprouted" everywhere, who is to say native Americans didn't just evolve there without external influences?
The study of Native American origins shows that the first peoples in the Americas likely migrated from Asia via the Bering land bridge during the last Ice Age, around 15,000 to 20,000 years ago. This theory is supported by both genetic evidence and archaeological findings. While the coastlines of America, Europe, and Africa do fit together geographically, the genetic and archaeological evidence overwhelmingly points to Asia as the primary source of the earliest inhabitants of the Americas.
the study does not force any one to claim any specific category, its a scientific exploration to tell people about the original inhabitants of the Americas and what role native Mexicans played ...
US Native Americans have the distinction of deliberately being forced to become genetically and culturally isolated from white Anglo Protestant America. The Mexicans are certainly different in this regard as racial mixing in colonial Mexican went on virtually unrestricted.
It's important to clarify that while some Native Americans in certain regions of Mexico and Central America are descendants of the Maya, not all Native Americans share this ancestry. The Maya civilization was primarily located in what is now southern Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, and parts of Honduras and El Salvador. Native Americans across the Americas have diverse origins, with different groups descending from various ancient civilizations such as the Aztecs, the Inca, and numerous other Indigenous cultures.
I’m born and live in the Sonoran desert 🌵 my grandpa was half Yaqui for my Mom side and my other side from Culiacán, Sinaloa we’re different to Aztec , Mayan and others indigenous people. Not everyone one in Mexico is Mexica or Maya descendants.
@@antoniobanderas9769 same DNA 🧬 some are 15 percent some are more but have Maya's and Aztec trust me Maya's been in America for 30:000 year ago Sinaloa have alot Spaniards DNA
You make an excellent point , while genetic studies often group people based on shared ancestry, it's also crucial to consider cultural and regional identities that have developed over time. The study shows that geographic and cultural factors, such as those seen in Mesoamerican and Aridoamerican regions, have significantly influenced the genetic makeup of different Indigenous groups.
"Recent European and African influences"... Huh? The overwhelming majority of individuals who do these vids always conveniently leave out Asian genetic influence from the Pacific slave trade that forcefully brought ppl from the Philippines, China, Laos, Indonesia, Japan, India ect to the Americas (specifically Mexico).. They were called Chinos and Mestizo-Sangley and were relocated here via Manila Galleon slave ships.. When speaking of indigenous genetics in the Americas, especially Mexico, its important not to leave out the "Pacific" slave trade.. WHY? Because even Geneticists have stated in many cases it's impossible to tell the difference between Native American genetic markers, and genetic markers from individuals who came on those Manila Galleon ships, as both groups originate in Asia.
Yes, the study highlights that there are genetic differences among populations in different regions of Mexico, including between those from Jalisco and southern Mexico.
i do not think Mexico needed discovering, many people from various parts of worlds had always been intermixing, humans were far more adept at sea-faring then we might believe, some figures like Columbus get more highlighted due to era of colonisation that followed ...
"Native American" refers to all Indigenous peoples across the entire continent, from Alaska to Argentina, including those in Mexico. However, using "Native Mexicans" helps specify the region within the Americas and acknowledges the unique cultures and histories of the Indigenous peoples in modern-day Mexico. Both terms are accurate, depending on the context.
This study provides new insights, for instance it reveals the complex genetic structure of Indigenous populations in Mexico, showing connections to ancient lineages that diverged earlier than previously thought. It also highlights the significant impact of geography and historical migrations on the genetic diversity of these populations, offering a deeper understanding of how different groups have evolved and interacted over thousands of years. These findings add new layers to our knowledge of Indigenous history in the Americas.
While the exact fate of the Olmecs is still debated, many researchers believe that they didn't simply disappear, but rather were absorbed into or influenced later Mesoamerican cultures, such as the Maya and the Aztecs.
No, these few native groups with genetic shifts like he stated in the video are not related in what so ever with the Olmecs. You need to use more brain and not just assume every tribe is related.
Yoy should ask Native tribal people living in the U.S. how they feel about being referred to as "American". We consider ourselves to be members of our individual tribal nations first and foremost. We don't need some non-Native person trying to define us or homogenize our identity. Go work on your European ancestors first instead of trying to seem like an expert on our history. Europeans focus on Europe challenge 2024.
this study emphasises the role played by these individual tribes that populated the Americas later, the term is being used as it is what in scientific circles ...
Ancient Gods visited 4 or 5 areas in the World: America's, Africa, Middle East, Indie, China they built the first worshiping centers Pyramids, the taught their creation cultivation, and they like there booze to Tequila, Beer, Rice Wine, etc. etc. THINK?
The term "Americas" is commonly used to refer to the two continents, North and South America, as a collective region. While it’s true that Amerigo Vespucci didn’t refer to it as "Americas," the plural form has become a standard way to recognize the diversity and vastness of the landmass, encompassing many countries and cultures. It’s similar to how we refer to other regions with multiple nations, like "the British Isles" or "the Balkans." The use of "Americas" is about acknowledging this diversity, not changing the original intent of the name.
While there’s speculation about connections to the extinct Pericue, the Seri’s unique identity is more a result of their specific history and environmental adaptations.
The real Americans are the natives from north to south the entire continent, and yes the original Americans are brown, any other color, they came from another continent
It's important to clarify that skin color is not a definitive marker of a person's origin. The idea that the "original Americans" were all of one specific skin color oversimplifies the complex history of human migration and diversity. While the earliest Indigenous peoples in the Americas likely had varying skin tones due to their adaptation to different environments, the concept of race and skin color is much more nuanced.
@@evoinception yes the shape of an indigenous people are different, but not by much. And the white color along with the color eyes it’s not one of the markers, and black with Afro hair also not one of it, it’s not that difficult
Eco Institute, I like this subject matter of origins of people group. But, I don’t like your methodology. When you did East Asians, you used certain haplo group DNA exclusively with random photos, but Mexican supporting data has not much DNA data. People group aren’t just DNA, y-chromosome, mitochondria, or some haplogroups, but written and oral history, archeological data, language and culture. Otherwise Mongol empire in China seems like a small minority ethnicity, and Genghis Khan may be the father of one million children. I hope you can develop your own unique successful UA-cam formula without erroneous titles and contents. Be honest about what data are available and why you came to your conclusion with incomplete data.
Do not make slanderous comments, the genetic data used in studies about populations like East Asians or Mexicans is extensive and carefully analyzed. In fact, studies of Mexican populations have revealed complex genetic structures that highlight the diverse origins of these groups, with data gathered from a variety of sources, including genome-wide studies.
Native Mexicans are Native Americans.
The term "Native American" encompasses all Indigenous peoples of the Americas, including those in Mexico, making "Native Mexicans" an accurate and specific reference within this broader context.
@@evoinception there is not such a thing as non native mexicans... Well there is a saying xD but the mean is you can just say mexicans bc we are more mestizos than the unaitedstatians, even so but whatever to help thee sleep
@@evoinception100% and immigration laws need to be updated and reflect safe/free passage granted for work and travel, per Geneva convention. For millennia people were here.
@@evoinception Absolutely, because this documentary is referring to Native Mexicans specifically not South American or Canadian Natives. Excellent documentary.
@@evoinception that is true Mexicans were considered Indians or native Indians or too indigenous for the USA make legal and withold or keep territorial treaties; as we all know they made they didn't honor any treat with the native Americans
I live in Utah. But my family is from Michoacán. According to my DNA analysis, my community sits between Jalisco & Michoacán. I'm 69% indigenous of mostly mesoamerican. I'm dark & short. But I love my history. I'm likely to be of Purépecha descent.
thanks for sharing this wonderful heritage of yours ...
The tests are limited for Native peoples when compared to other groups of people. Overall, they aren’t really accurate - hence at the bottom it is stated that is for entertainment purposes only.
Plus I wouldn’t believe in it since they altered a lot of things from the beginning, like ➡️ Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
@@Egr-et6ar thank you for sharing. I'll be doing further research on this topic. Very interesting. I love learning about history.
Same here. My family is from that region as well. My dad is short and dark and my mom is short and white. My dad's side is also probably Purepecha. My mom's side lived isolated in the mountains and is all white people.
they came with the bible in their hand ".... they saw our beautiful land.
they taught us how to close our eyes and pray , when we opened them , we had their bible and they had our land....
there's some truth to it religion is launched first to conquer or to make people complacent
🫀Beautifly said 👏
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@@MacarenaWalsh what garbage revisionism, Cortez army was 95% nativez, they loath the status quoa. But sure swallow the black legend and stay a victim...
@@war21stcentury39 This exactly! Just stop with the sad story. It wasn't a Spanish conquest as much as a tlaxcallan one. we're mestizo for a reason
@@carls779 still! Fuck your bible!!!
My parents are indigenous and speak their native tongue. Anthropologists have done some research on our people and I have read articles due to the rugged terrain of Oaxaca Mexico, a lot of natives lived in isolation from modern society for a long time. It’s crazy because since migrating to the States, people often mistake my cousins and I being from the Philippines, Japan, or Hawaii at times. I think it has to do with the shape of our eyes. lol
Your story is a valuable reminder of the deep and varied roots that people carry with them, no matter where they go.Thanks for sharing...
Please learn your language!
Pass it on to your children.
So that means you are indigenous
@@BeADad2447 Amen, that's so important for sure..
On my dads side I have relatives that have been mistaken for Asian . One cousin who is a doctor and at his clinic he has been mistaken for being Japanese , Philippine etc . They are surprised to find out of his Mexican- Indian heritage . Purépecha - Michoacan from his mother , Durango and Sinaloa indigenous from his father.
Funny how they are called native Mexican ., instead of Native Americans .
😂 their not native American gringos.
Some people in Mexico often use nationalism as a way to self describe themselves, which can be extremely problematic. I have Native ancestry from the geographic area of what is now Mexico, but my family has just always said we are Native in particular Wixarika/Cora. So, just saying I am Mexican really just erases the ancestral history of my community because people often just assume I'm either Mexica or Mayan, which is not the case for me.
@brianlombera1826 you have said it very well, just shows, no matter how small, every community is so unique and precious ...
@@brianlombera1826 Well, learn all you can about your ppl n inform others, only way to keep your ppl relevant.. Too many tribes n ppls have gone extinct, never to be known again..
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Gracias por el estudio. Yo he vivido en diferentes partes de México y confirmo que cada región es diferente por su gente nativa. Por eso hay tanta diversidad en este territorio. Yo soy norteña y mi abuelo se parece mucho a los nativos norteamericanos. Creo que cada mexicano tiene una línea genética que terminaría originandose en alguna de las etnias que mencionaste. Otra de mis abuelas era española y por mi papá, un ancestro francés. Un abrazo, me suscribo, gracias 🥰.
¡Gracias por compartir tu maravillosa ascendencia y por tu apoyo al canal! Es un placer tenerte como parte de esta comunidad.
Mexicans are native Americans and this is our land.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
Also Sėė 📚➡️
The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes
MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
By Victor Mejia
native people must be always proud of their heritage ... i respect your views
We are mistly mixed mestizos not fully native nor Spanish.
@@AL20199 Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
Also Sėė 📚➡️
The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes
MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
By Victor Mejia
@@Egr-et6ar True True True!!!!
Man it seems like people cant enjoy content or analyze presentation of data without getting mad and assuming some sort of evil motive.
Even if this information is not correct just calm down. This guys is almost certainly not presenting it with mal intent.
Please i beg you!
thanks for your kind words and understanding ...
@@AntonioPeralesdelHierro that response doesnt make sense to what I said.
@@evoinceptionyou do a good job of presenting a complex subject. It's really interesting to learn about the different indigenous people's and different areas across the Americas, their genetic connections and their diversity, their lifestyles... So much more to learn about these special people's. Thank you
@@emilio6425 You'll get over it.
I don’t think people understand, Mexico has more indigenous people in its territory than the combined number of native Americas from the other countries in the Americas, it’s around 25 million natives in Mexico, give or take 18% of its entire population.
Yes, it's a very rich n divers nation.. So much history to be learned there, so much is being unearth too now with their new president, AMLO..
While Mexico does have a significant Indigenous population, the figure of 25 million seems to be an overestimate. According to official statistics, the Indigenous population in Mexico is around 10 to 15 million, depending on how Indigenous identity is defined and measured.
25 million is an overstatement bro…
I would think 25 million is under stating there are whole tribes that’s are considered extinct but the people are still there my wife is from such areas
@@Reymundo65 is not…25 million people is an entire country. It is unlikely that all of that people are of indigenous descent…
Thank you. Very interesting.
thanks for your kind words and continuous support to channel ...
Good work, thanks
thanks for your kind words ...
Native Americans
How do you define Native Americans? Pre Europeans? Pre modern Asians? Last Ice Age migration by foot or by canoe? Pre historic, Bronze Age or Iron Age?
Aren’t they all native if they are born in Mexico? If they came from Peru but born in Mexico, are they native to Mexico?
@@kulkrafts3143 bearing straight myth is just a myth
@@kulkrafts3143 amerisque
@@kulkrafts3143 You do realize that "Mexico/US/Canada" borders have only existed for several hundred years, right? A drop in a bucket.
@@kulkrafts3143"if you see two fish fighting in the river" ....😅😂😅 From Argentina to Alaska 🤷🏽🦅🪶🏹🪓
You forgot OASISAMERICA!
It includes Northern states of Chihuahua, Sonora and Arizona New Mexico and California the last three use to be Mexican Territory!
DNA of indigenous Mexicans who migrated to California as hunter gatherers was found and it dates back to 5,200 years old!🇲🇽
the research study primarily focused on Mesoamerican and Aridoamerican regions in Mexico, which may explain why Oasisamerica wasn't specifically highlighted but you make an excellent point, adding it will. only make findings better ...
Research in academia is often separated because of border politics and, therefore, the communities at the border are often left out of these studies. You also have to remember that the current or geographic location of Mexico doesn't really mean anything to the context of studying the history of native peoples other than colonialism.
Don't forget that California , New Mexico, Texas , Arizona, part of woyomin were mexican territories of Coahuila state , chihuahua state and Sonora state ..so anybody can understand why some of the ones responsansable on these issues want to separate the reality of mexicans living in the now US southern states ....still controversial issue nowdays !!
@JorgeGarcia-mh5il regardless it does not mean those communities are Mexican. Yes, some people may identify as it, but just saying that because it used to be a Spanish territory does not mean those people identify as Mexican. There are many native communities that are not from the Mexica tribal nation but yet live under its nationalism.
@@brianlombera1826 !! Never being spanush territories they were invaders until got them out....and of course not only mexicas , they were apache, Navajo, Mohicans , teotihuacans , mayas , chichimecas , toltecas , tarahunaras etc etc ....after all they all were the indigenous people from north America and the mexicans have their DNA and not only from the mexica culture but from the nayans all the way to the southern states of the now US ...that's not my opinion but History books !!
Very interesting. Great video.
thanks for your kind words and support to channel ...
Suggested reading: book, "Mexico Profundo" by Mexican Anthropologist, Guillermo Bonfil Batalla
Thank you!
Thank you for your informative documentary. I'm Zapotec Mesoamerican Indigenous on my mother's side Aridoamerican Indigenous from Nazas Durango. I'm most humbled by the grace of God to be indigenous to this sacred beautiful land, the American continent, not the Americas, a single supercontinent the most beautiful plentiful land on earth.
thanks for your kind words and you carry such a wonderful heritage ....
I take it that USR1 is referring to ancient Beringian DNA from the Upward Sun River site in the Fairbanks region of Alaska. (11,500 BP)
Yes, you're correct.
This might be irrelevant but I’ve noticed in my experience that the taller Mexicans tend to be the ones with more native phenotypes even though most people would assume it’s the ones with higher euro genetics.
In general, Indigenous Mexicans come from diverse genetic backgrounds, and height is not solely determined by ancestry. Diet, health, and other environmental factors also play a significant role. Therefore, it's not uncommon for individuals with more Indigenous traits to be tall, just as height can vary among those with more European ancestry.
Spaniards were of short stature. My Zapotec brothers nieces, and nephews are above 5'10 and 6eet 4
I don't think you are wrong, my paternal lineage is indigenous and im 5'11. the indigenous were the tallest until the conquest, with enslavement, murdering 80% of the population change of diet, our people shrunk. malnutrition
my grandma, who is from south eastern michoacan, told me that her grandpa who spoke a native language was really tall! i have a picture of him and he has very indigenous features!
I did one of those dna tests and I came up 85% Central State of Mexico with the rest being a mix of Sardinian North African and Spanish. I thought it was crazy how concentrated my Mexican dna is.
thanks for sharing you carry wonderful heritage ...
Thank you for what you shared. I'm one of the Metizos busy hunting our historic habits and historic trading secrets.
you carry wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing ...
Well start off with Tamales .. 10,000 years old. At least
Please be consistent in your description of groups , you can’t say American natives referring to the United States and Mexican natives for the Mexican ones .absolutely every native in this continent is Native American.
when discussing specific regions, it’s also accurate to refer to Indigenous groups by their more localized identities, such as Native Mexicans or Native Canadians, to clarify the context of the discussion.
@@evoinceptionthey are all native americans, say northern or southern or central…their genetics didn’t change when the US won the mexican american war.
@@veronicagarcia2682dude, shut up!
Yes they are actually genetically different by their location.
By your standards every European regardless of north or south, east or west, Europe or Eurasia are genetically the same. That would apply to every African, Asian or middle easterner. A ludicrous assumption!
Your statement is ridiculous and you’re trying to confuse the language.
The guy made a great and interesting video and you are nitpicking and obfuscating the language with wokery.
Stop being a weakling and becoming wounded by words. And these are words that are not even offensive but are informative.
Native Americans!
YOURE THE INCONSISTENT ON COMPREHEND WHAT IS CLEAR EXPLANATION
Thank you for the food for thought. 👍
you are most welcome, your support to channel is most appreciated ...
The comments are so stupid to imagine if the video was about Germany and people were bitching that it was titled German instead of European
I have always wondered why my cousins vary so much in physical appearance, especially comparing to my siblings and myself. Some of us/them look indigenous Mexican, some look white, some look Spanish and others look more Asian. Straight hair, curly hair, blonde, brunette, brown eyes, blue and green…we are a very diverse group.
thanks for sharing, you carry some wonderful heritage ...
The Aridoamerica extends from the north of Mexico and Southwest United States some cultures of this area was de Mogollon Culture this culture extended from in Chihuahua Mexico and New Mexico in United States.
Mesoamerica extends from Central and South Mexico and north of Guatemala, in the Prehispanic times the migration of nomadic tribus from north to south, Aridoametica to Mesoamerica was very comun, for example the Aztecs or Mexicas they migrated from Aridoamerica to the Mesoamerica aswell as the Toltecs around 900bc, the Mayas at the South in Yucatan part of Mesoamerica, some studies sugest they migrated from South to North, from Guatemala to Yucatan Mexico.
In the map don’t show but, Aridoamerica extended to from Texas and Tamaulipas too, in Tamaulipas and Texas with the Coahuiltecan tribus.
The Baja California Peninsula was part of Aridoametica too with the Kiliwas, Yumas, and Cucapas, tribus.
The Utoaztecs familes lenguages, spreds from Wayoming and Colorado in United States to Central Mexico, this famliy lenguages was the lenguage of the Aztecs or Mexicas the Nahuatl lenguage.
Thank you for sharing this detailed information ...
Don’t forget about OasisAmerica also!
Navajo in the house....and whatever other native I am. I'm a rice and bean eating westerner. Add some chilies and tortillas es muy bueno.
thanks for sharing your wonderful heritage ...
Even more important than knowing the genetic and original makeup of mexicans and nativeamericans is to find ways to preserve it.
Mexicans and nativemaricans who have acquired a truly decolonized mindset and know their true history make a conscious choice to end with the vicious cycle of diluting our native blood with foreigners.
This vicious cycle of dilution can only be stopped through a decolonial education
you make an excellent point , native culture needs to be protected world over, thanks for raising this point ...
"Decolonial education" shouldn't start with speaking a "native" language instead of English?....
@@evoinception He makes an excellent point but for all the wrong reasons, just look at his profile picture, does it remind you of any other symbol? He's an Indigenous neo-fascist. We need to decolonise our minds, I agree, but we don't need to go to the other extreme and argue for any type of blood purity.
@@JCarlosCS1221 Those symbols aren’t specifically Nzi Grmany (besides that one was backwards). You can find almost exact symbols in ancient Americas, Asia and Africa as well. The swastika remains a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Thailand, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan, and by some peoples, such as the Navajo people of the Southwest United States. Also….. on top of that, when have Mxicns ever created h8 groups? That’s more like another groups of people.
@@Egr-et6ar Sure, but to talk about not diluting blood/genes and combining that with that symbol....
How can I find out where my grandfather and grandmother's bloodline come from ? all I know is the regions from Mexico like Aguascalientes and Durango and other parts
you carry wonderful ancestry, you can talk to people in your community and elders, this can give you a good idea, thanks for sharing ...
CRI Genetics found Peruvian twice and Mexican and Columbian markers in my DNA sample. Other more general DNA Asian markers as well. I have Powhatan/Patawomeck ancestry as well as some Cherokee through the Gipson lineage which is a Melungeon family I understand The first Peruvian marker was dated to approximately 1100s which is a bit before Columbus and his buddies sailed to the New World. The other Peruvian marker dates to near the birth of my one grandfather who was an eighth Powhatan/Patawomeck and descended from KaOkee Jane who was the daughter of Pocahontas and Kocoum. She was raised by the Patawomeck and married into the tribe. Which is why she survived. If you look at facial features and headdress styles you can see resemblances between those tribal groups farther south. Tribal leaders told the whites that they knew of the tribes to the south in Mexico and beyond. Claimed to have traded with them, but it was discounted as impossible. I think DNA markers in my saliva verifies contact of an interpersonal nature.
Your DNA results showing markers from Peru, Mexico, and Colombia reflect shared ancient ancestry rather than direct recent contact. While Indigenous trade networks did exist, DNA similarities across regions are more about common ancestry over thousands of years rather than specific interactions. Your findings add to the understanding of how interconnected these ancient populations were, but interpreting them accurately requires considering the long and complex history of human migration.
What a bunch of poppycock! No dear the timeline data shows the recent additions to my lineage and these markers are included along with the Swiss and the Norwegian. Recent additions. Well not yesterday, but within the last 15 generations. The ancient DNA shows common ancestry with Asians now residing in Vietnam and Japan and India and the Middle East. The ones mentioned above are in the recent section and tagged with timeline estimations and several of those have been verified as accurate. Which proves the algorithm is valid and accurate. I proved it out.
@@grandam195Which DNA test gives you that much information? I am 47% Native of the Americas with 0.0 central/South Asian and 0.7 East Asian. I know my great grandmother was Jèmez Pueblo with geneology , but no DNA test has ever told me specific regions.
About the more recent population changes in mexico when the spaniards started to settle in northern mexico ( from tamualipas to sonora ) alongside them many native americans from various tribes (tlaxcalans , mexica , purepechas etc. ) and mestizos from central and to a lesser degree southern mexico joined them to settle the northern lands and were needed to settle with and pacify different tribes as well as for agriculture , as soldiers , colonists , and also due to the huge mining boom in the 1600s and 1700s in the northern states of mexico it attracted migrants from all around mexico and created a unique mixture which mostly corresponds to mestizo genetic groups on top of that athabaskan tribes and other northern tribes started migrating in mass into the southwestern united states and some ended up trickling into northern mexico and some ended up in northern mexico as slaves for the spanish and eventually assimilated into the mestizo gene pool around the 1600s - 1700s
your comment align well recent research and historical facts ...
I'm a Cora Indio. Yes, we exist!
you carry wonderful heritage, welcome ...
@@evoinception we're still here since time immemorial. And we'll be here beyond time immemorial.
Being a "mestizo" I do find it interesting how I have blood ties to the old world and new world. On one side the ancestors were tribals living in Mexico for thousands of years while the other ancestors were living in southern Spain, also fod thousands of years
you carry wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing ....
Read more about your heritage, you might find they were not very tribal. I found out the Zapotec were excellent metallurgists and fought against the Aztec Alliance
There’s chatter that the Aztecs came from “Utah” area, came to the valley in central “Mexico”. The U.S immigrated to Mexico “illegally” then lately the Mexicans immigrated “illegally” to the U.S ….basically just sit back and watch,It’s like a Netflix’s series.
The idea that the Aztecs (Mexicas) originally came from the region that is now Utah is linked to the legend of Aztlán, a mythical ancestral homeland mentioned in Aztec lore. However, the exact location of Aztlán has never been definitively identified, and it's considered more of a symbolic place in Aztec mythology rather than a specific geographic location in the modern U.S.Regarding migration, the movement of people across what is now the U.S.-Mexico border has been ongoing for thousands of years, long before the establishment of modern nation-states. Indigenous peoples, including those who eventually became the Aztecs, migrated and settled in different regions over time.
@@evoinception nobody of Mexican decent or Mexicans in Mexico gives 💩💩 about the imaginary border. That’s the only thing mythical these days.
@@evoinception the imaginary border is the only thing mythical these days.
I am Mexican and my dna 🧬 came 72% Native American and 21% European
thanks for sharing, you carry wonderful heritage ...
The indigenus population in Mexico its about 10 millons people of a total population in Mexico of 130 millons people, the mayority of the mexicans are mestizos or mixed blod, like me, my DNA test results of 23 and me its, 58% iberian from Galicia an Basque from Spain, 38% indigenus from Jalisco and Michoacan Mexico, 2% French from Bretaña, and 2% African from Congo, like my the mayority of the mexican population are mestizos, great video crongatulations.
You're correct that the majority of Mexico's population is mestizo, thanks for your kind words for the channel ...
It’s actually 11 million in identified so called Indian households however the total number by including natives that now about their mixed past and/or speak a native language is close to 25 million.
@salvadorlopez1814 Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
Also Sėė 📚➡️
The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes
MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
By Victor Mejia
@@Egr-et6arBut all that with the DNA test all the true its reveal, the great mayority of the Mexican population are Mestizos, even with the DNA tests we see the Mexicans are more Mestizos than we thought, in Mexico we are proude of our amerindian background, and proude of our spanish backgrounds as well we are proude of our africans background.
Some writers inThe United States for centuries has been layed to the mexicans in the Mexican History, saing all Mexican are natives indigenus, your not have spanish roots, they only conquer and toked your gold, but thank to the cience, and with the DNA tests made form many Univesrsities not only for Mexico, for all over de world, the true its reavil, the mexicans are more Mestizos more mixed blod than we previos toghut, the great mayority of the Mexican we are Mestizos, and even the mexicans amerindians in a lot of cases have some of europeans in the genetics and the mexicans wish they belive ara pure europeans have some amerindian in the genetic tests, now all that history in papers an documents saing this or that, are not useful any more, the Genetics and DNA test reveal the all the true.
I lost the progress of the comment I was drafting, I will try to find it. In summary the idea is to enter into a collaboration agreement with a DNA analyst like Ancestry. I guess that there is a good market nowadays, like me that I have about 50% of Native American DNA, I would love to learn where they are from. And in the US there are about 50 million Hispanics (no Latinos please). Wonderful work, thank you. It is a fascinating topic that approach history in general with 😊personal history.
thanks for your kind words and support to channel, you carry a wonderful heritage indeed ...
The tests are limited for Native peoples when compared to other groups of people. Overall, they aren’t really accurate - hence at the bottom it is stated that is for entertainment purposes only.
Lastly…. the terms Hispanic and Latino were coined onto the people by the Richard Nixon administration during the 1970s.
According to my DNA, I am 31% Mexican Native American. The states include Chijuajua and Durango. I wish my DNA results could show which tribes specifically are part of my heritage. I would love to research them. But it seems there isn't enough data yet to get specifics.
you carry a wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing ...
The tests are limited for Native peoples when compared to other groups of people. Overall, they aren’t really accurate - hence at the bottom it is stated that is for entertainment purposes only.
eres del estado de Queretaro? Mire Bernal
No, no lo soy ...
93% of Mexico is mixed indigenous or full blooded indigenous, FACT, the problem is , is many people have the idea of a “Indian” or Native American is someone who is extinct or not around anymore or someone that looks like the plains peoples that hunted buffalos, the problem is, is simply jealousy and envy, a lot of people can’t accept that the people they go to school with and the people they make fun of for having a accent of being dark or short or illegal, it’s hard for people to accept that those people are the original people of this land, it’s hard to accept that the person whos not even from here, is darker then you, smaller then you, has a culture like that, u see the same defeated,hatred,envy look on every persons face when u tell them a Mexican is more then a Mexican, that kinda racism u can’t make up with anybody else that’s imbedded hatred
While it's true that a large portion of Mexico's population has Indigenous ancestry, it's not accurate to say that 93% of the population is either fully Indigenous or mixed Indigenous. The reality is that Mexico is a diverse country with a complex history of Indigenous, European, African, and other ancestries blending over centuries. The misconception that Indigenous people are extinct or only fit a specific image is harmful and overlooks the rich and living cultures that continue to thrive in Mexico today.
Most people in Mexico or of Mexican descent are not indigenous but rather mestizo, meaning they have a mixture of indigenous, European, and African ancestry.
@@giacobbeperales5926
Stop with the lies you just keep making up. You can travel all over Mexico except Vera Cruz and costa Chica and never bump into a black afro descendant. I just spent 3 years in Michoacán, greater Mexico city and its surroundings and all I saw was Indigenous faces. Its undeniable.
I have a bet going with my friends that you can travel in most of Mexico and never bump into an Afro descendant. Every now and then you would see very light complected people but they where usually always recent arrivals.
The Indigenous Identity is the in every aspect of Mexican culture. Every Mexican will have Native/Indigenous Ancestory to some compassity weather they are Mestizo or Afro-Mexican. But I always say Mexico is an Indigenous land & will always be. The name Mexico is Indigenous. When the country gained Independence from Spain they named the country after the tribe who inhabited pre-colonial Mexico City (Tenochtitlan) The Mexica. & til this day the people still remain.
@@robyenney951your professor apparently ignored the northern and west pacific non meztiso European/Iberian Mexican which reduces the meztiso population to 65 to 70%.
The short version?
you can have a look at the abstract but still for you - The researchers found that the genetic structure of the indigenous Mexican populations is strongly influenced by geography. They observed three main genetic clusters corresponding to the northern, central/southern, and southeastern regions of Mexico. They also found evidence of a decline in the effective population size of all tested populations between 15-30 generations ago, coinciding with the beginning of European colonization. Comparisons with ancient genomes revealed that some indigenous Mexican populations may carry additional ancestry from a population that split before the Anzick-1 individual, who is closely related to Mesoamerican and South American populations.
@@evoinception thank you so very much!
Kickapoo indians are from MICHIGAN and WISCONSIN. A small group (16) arrived in Tamaulipas in1849, fleeing from U.S. Gatlin Guns. They now enjoy more privileges in México than mexicans... 😮Come to Coahuila and see for yourself.
Eagle pass texas and the other clan is at muzqujz Coahuila 3 hours away.also there is other groups in Sonora Kansas etc soy de piedras negras
the idea that they "enjoy more privileges" than other Mexicans is an oversimplification. Indigenous groups in Mexico often face significant challenges, and their rights are designed to protect their cultural identity and way of life, not to grant them undue privileges.
@@evoinception To mention that Criollo Spniards disproportionally cntrol majority of the wealth and political pwer.
Purepecha here
wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing and welcome ...
It is interesting to come to a site like this with an open mind and no agenda except to learn something about yourself and your family. I learned today that the Mexican part of me comes from what is being called the arido region of Mexico. I have some information about the indigenous people who lived in the area my Mexico family comes from. Have an open mind, no agenda and accept whatever the truth turns out to be ( I can't change it anyway.) You will learn something.
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Yes, my maternal ancestors are from Nazas Durango. AridAmerica. !the desert) My paternal ancestors are from Oaxaca Mesoamerica. You must also know that America is a single Supercontinent ( not the Americas to refer to it is wrong) from the Bering Strait to Tierra del Fuego the land of the Amerindian. The USA as a figure of speech appropriated the nickname America, and America for their citizens. America is our Continent continent not a country. therefore in the Internationa competition in the parade of nations at the Olympics the US marches in at the end for the United States, not at the beginning for A . and when people yell supporting the USA team they never say America, America, neither, sports commentators use the nickname America won first place but rather the formal correct name USA..
I've noticed some have Asian features.....like me😊
yes and your observation is correct ...
Native Mexican is anybody born in Mexico, I think you meant Native Americans and there is only one America divided in North, South, and Central America. You will never call Africa "The Africas" only because there is a South and North Africa
The study did indeed refer to Native Mexicans, specifically focusing on the Indigenous peoples of Mexico. These groups, like the Aztecs, Mayans, and others, are distinct Indigenous cultures with deep historical roots in the region.
There's plenty of people that consider N America and S America to be different continents hence they call them "The Americas".
I descend from people in the southern part of Zacatecas,MX the native group there was the Caxcanes who were also in Jalisco MX they were not Aztecs. My bloodline is a mix of Caxcan from Zacatecas and spaniard I'm light skinned but my granpa looks like john redcorn from king of the hill in the same family our complexion can vary from looking like german white guys to dark brown complexion but we come from the same grandparents.
you carry wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing and welcome ...
Do NOT say " Americas" . There is just one America continent. From Alaska to Chile and Argentina. Do you say Europes? Do you say Africas? Do you say Asias?
This plural form is a way to respect the distinct identities within this large and varied region, much like we might refer to "the British Isles" or "the Caribbean Islands" to recognize multiple, related places.But you have the full right to object to it ...
@@evoinceptionthen you shouldn’t say Native “Mexicans” since it didn’t exist until Europeans created it. Mexican is a nationality.
You are correct. Also, an American is anyone born in the continent, not just the people of the USA.
There is 2 contents South America and North America from Panama and the Caribbean to Canada
En mi opinión que digan Américas me da lo mismo...lo importante aquí es que además de los mexicanos hay gente interesada en la raza
My husband is slim part Tarahumara and Apache. But his immigration process they don't want to claim him native American. They want to claim him white. I'm from Michoacán and part purépecha and European and it was easy peasy for me. Our kids don't speak spanish only our 3 native languages and English.
you carry some wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing ...
Vast majority of mexicans are 40-60% european. And many of us are not aztec or mayan. Im otomi/cuahuiltecan.
yes you are right , its due to the history of colonization and intermarriage ...
couldn't have been that way before the 1500s
Wrong were 40-60% indigenous if you wannabe white jst stop saying your raza and say your spaniard ok hernan cortez😂
@@saucytony4609 ok montezuma, im still raza bro dont trip. I just took a dna test.
@@saucytony4609 When people talk about raza, it's about nationality not race. Also mexican americans took that word and used it for other stuff. In northern mexico it was originally used for group of friends or a crew.
A beautiful people.
indeed a beautiful people ...
mexican ? beautiful? lol ahahaha are you blind? im from mexico and definitely mexican are not beautiful
Those darn conquistadors came to the “Americas” to taint our blood
A small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
Also Sėė 📚➡️
The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes
MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
By Victor Mejia
That’s a radical racist comment.
@@Egr-et6arYour comment doesn’t make sense. 85% of Mexico has European ancestry in whatever amount
@@mdc3148 No your comment doesn’t make sense. You’re saying a small group of people managed to mix up the majority…. Logically think about it.
@@Egr-et6ar They weren’t “a small group of people”. Spaniards immigrated for hundreds of years to Mexico. You know, you really don’t know as much history as you think you do.
Este a de ser de la india. Con ese acento 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Este es un comentario muy grosero e incivilizado.
Very well done video, our history & genetics are far more complex than previously thought, historians, genealogists, anthropologists & scientologist's have limited understanding of our history with little known facts about our origins, our history is so misunderstood & damaged that many people will believe anything about our people.
Our history as a people are older than many old & modern theories that the world had used on our people, the only way to find out who we are as the indigenous peoples of Turtle Island, the world must look at our indigenous history without having a eurocentric point of view.
As being indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere, we are in fact considered ourselves as the people of here between the waters.
Each of our native languages, we do infact call ourselves the people, in other words, we're the human beings.
you have put it very well, thanks for your kind words ...
Our original Native American Culture name is MEXiCA not Mexican that is a Criollo name and It is not Americas America is one Continent 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Your first point is correct , regarding "America," it's widely accepted in geography that the term "Americas" is used to refer collectively to the two continents of North America and South America, which include Central America and the Caribbean.
@@evoinception No son 2 continentes es uno solo América lo demás solo es para ser más específico pero en el mundo solo hay 5 continentes en US enseñan mal que hay muchas américas
There were more than mexica in all mesoamerica, not everyone generates from the same culture
America is a single supercontinent, the most beautiful and plentiful Continent on earth, the land of the Amerindian. God Bless our sacred land.
@@JesusEmanuelAguilar-ff3nzEstás confundido, dos placas tectónicas han creado los dos continentes. Hay científicos que ya han mostrado la evidencia, deja de ser un bebé chillón
A critical error to your opening statement. Mexico is part of North America, it's not part of Central America.
Mesoamerica encompasses central mexico, the Mexican Empire had land from Panama to Oregon
Central america* my bad
This is my statement - "Mexico has long served as a natural passageway for human migration between North America and Central and South America." Its not wrong at all , there is a difference between being "part of" and being a "passageway."
Why does it say “Mexican Genetics” when you’re talking about the Indigenous of Mexico only?? Most of Mexico has European genetics as well… why does everyone gloss over it??
because they are the natives and later admixture tool place as explained, so Mexico from the early years of it populating and then how it spread across the Americas, your point of view is of more recent history when demographics changes after colonisation ...
@@evoinception Then it would be “Pre-Columbian genetics of Mexico” or something similar. The word México, although coming etymologically from ‘Mexica’, has only ever been used for the Kingdom of México created in 1527, or the “Imperio Mexicano”/Mexican Empire at independence in 1821 (Mexico as a republic coming a couple years later). The name itself is a Viceregal period invention. I know most people don’t know this, but it helps to keep order and prevent people from continuously getting a wrong picture of things. I apologize but I feel strongly about this because it seems everyone wants to erase the average Mexican’s European heritage or doesn’t want to recognize it.
@@evoinception If you made a video thumbnail that said “Mexican Genetics” and did our European genetics that would even it out and reflect our reality. But anyway, thanks for the reply.
@@mdc3148 i can understand, genetics can be emotive especially when admixture is involved and the original people become some what rare and the admixed one become dominant , but the video does talk about this as well ...
@@mdc3148 “The word Mexico, although coming from etymologically from ‘Mexica,’ Has only ever been used for the kingdom of Mexico created in 1526, or the Mexican empire at independence in 1821.” Contradicted yourself at the beginning. Anyhow, Tenochtitlan, was also known as Mexico Tenochtitlan.
Thank you.
Its really easy to distinguish people,
tongues, tribes. You have indigenous
folk, regional folk. An antiquated term
which is textbook-friendly: mestizo.
A mestizo is a Euro/indigenous
person. Whatever national, cultural
liguistic ties and allegiances they have
may be distinct-independent
of the localized trends established
in near-history. At times it behooves
us to ask or let the person identify
their particular outlook and
disposition. Not every Mexican is
indigenous and not every mestizo
recognizes "Latin". Imagine there
are people in UK who were part of
the Roman invasion who have more
Latin in them than indigenous persons
whose "Euro" blood-none...genetics
is not complicated; it has been
severely convoluted by time,
culture, belief and sense of identity.
In short, your parents can tell you
what you are but the person must
strive to learn what they are not.
you make some good points , thanks ...
@@evoinception just a whimsical rhetorical reverie about UK folks comin here branding
folks with the same UK blood with less Latin running through their DNA than them. Isn't
that comical? Theres nothing wrong with
the terms-its everything How They Are
Applied, To Whom, To What End. It's akin
To a Majikal Binding...am exempt of course
We have found Polynesian genomes in Columbians and a small area of Mexico.
Yes, there was a study that suggested ancient contact between Polynesians and Indigenous peoples in South America, specifically involving the transfer of the sweet potato, known as "kumara" in Polynesia. There is a video on that on my channel as well, you can check it out ...
@@evoinception Yes, I saw that video. Very interesting. Would like more information on this.
@@Pasovineyard i will update in future episodes ..thanks
Not in Mexico. South America and it was minuscule at best.
@@rustydogrustydog9191 Not the point. And yes in Mexico.
I am from the Huasteca Potosina, here live Nahuas (of the same language as the Mexica), Teenek (the only Mayan language outside the traditional Mayan area) and Pames. The difference between them is only the language since they always live together even if they have their traditional areas. I am mestizos but living in the Huasteca one is very exposed to indigenous cultures, to their traditional costumes, to how they handle each other. Some indigenous communities are very open and friendly, many others are very open and friendly. Others are stricter and more closed, but in my own family I have Afro-Mexican cousins and native cousins, it's part of living here. I know that in other parts of Mexico this does not happen but the Huastecs are different from the rest of Mexico, even the Nahuas of the Huasteca are very different from the one in the Valley of Mexico.
Thank you for sharing your experience from the Huasteca Potosina. The study highlights the rich diversity of Indigenous groups in Mexico, including the Nahua, Teenek, and Pames, each with distinct cultural identities, despite living in close proximity. The Teenek being a Mayan language spoken outside the traditional Mayan area is a fascinating example of the linguistic and cultural diversity within Indigenous communities. The study supports the idea that Indigenous groups in regions like the Huasteca maintain their unique traditions while often coexisting and interacting with neighboring communities, contributing to the complex cultural landscape in Mexico.
Makes you wonder how a branch of Aridoamericans managed to conquer most of Mesoamérica? By the time the Spanish arrived, Nahuatl was the De Facto language for the entire region.
The spread of Nahuatl as the dominant language in Mesoamerica is closely tied to the rise of the Mexica, who were originally from the Aridoamerican region.
Except into purepecha and Zapotec lands 🥳🥳
I look cacation ,but am 100% Mexican, and proud of it
You carry wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing ...
The mexicans has a little of african ancestry too, somo mexican has between 2% to 4% in some cases 6% of African ancestry, even in some parts of Oaxacas cost more than that, the called Afromexicans
you make a good point and the study acknowledges this ...
Some regions in Veracruz , Oaxaca y Guerrero too, I went to Acapulco and visited Costa chica y Taxco and I saw a lot Afromexicans . Greetings from The Sonoran desert 🌵 Mexico 🇲🇽
I’m about 10% African my mother is around 23% and Grandfather was around 37% the rest was Native and Spanish. They were from a coastal town from Michoacán by Colima. They have a very interesting look. Imagine a native with a slight Fro 😂.
@@ruebzrandomreactionz3488 you carry wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing
All good but I've never seen a map of Aridamerica which includes Sinaloa. Mesoamerica's northwestern limit has always been placed at least in Culiacan. Also in the gulf, the Huasteca region always considered to be Mesoamerican reaches up to Tamaulipas.
Also OasisAmerica.
Por Dios son areas deserticas como Baja California, Durango Chihuahua, Arizona
@@teresaguerrasalazar El norte de Sinaloa tambien es parte de esa zona. Los grupos indigenas del norte de Sinaloa pertenecen a Aridoamerica y tienen mas conexion con los grupos de Sonora.
Depende en que parte de Sinaloa. El norte de Sinaloa tambien es parte de esa zona. Los grupos indigenas del norte de Sinaloa pertenecen a Aridoamerica y tienen mas conexion con los grupos de Sonora.
You mean the native Mexicans that came from Eurasia? At what generation mark do people from Africa living in England become native?
where do people from Africa living in England come in discussion, do not divert and stick to the genetic study part ...
Millions of Mexicans descend from western US natives
The majority of Mexicans with Indigenous ancestry trace their roots to Indigenous civilizations within Mexico itself, such as the Aztecs, Maya, and other Mesoamerican cultures. There are some shared ancestry and cultural ties between groups in northern Mexico and the southwestern United States, particularly among tribes like the Apache, Yaqui, and others. However, the idea that a large portion of the Mexican population directly descends from Western U.S. natives is not supported by the broader genetic and historical evidence, which shows more localized origins within Mexico.
@@evoinceptionAridoAmerica and OasisAmerica. The Uto-Aztecan language family is one of the largest linguistic families in the Americas in terms of number of speakers, number of languages, and geographic extension. The northernmost Uto-Aztecan language is Shoshoni, which is spoken as far north as Salmon, Idaho, while the southernmost is the Pipil language of El Salvador and Honduras.
@@evoinception I from Mexico and physicaly speaking a can tell when there is a Apache Hopi they look very much like Mexicans especially the northern part of Mexico the Yucatan Mexicans have a Mayan face especially the nose.
Another fact during the Trail of tears alot of Cherokee migrated into
Mexico. Just like the Kikapoo tribe from Michigan.
The western states are the portion of Mexico that the US appropriated from Mexico. Absolutely, all of my maternal grandparents are from Nazas Durango Mexico( Indios Nazas) which flourished alongside the majestic river Father Nazas, they fish with baskets and use the bow and arrow for hunting. My maternal haplogroup B2b situates me among the Indigenous women inhabiting northern Mexico, the US southwest, encompassing California, Florida, and as far north as Oklahoma. Absolutely, all of my paternal ancestors are from Tehuantepec Oaxaca the cradle of the Zapotec Nation, and the cradle of Mexican food. I bear the image that the sacred soil of the American Continent gave me to survive on it, I am the natural selection for the survival of the species, my destiny is tied to the land, these are natural laws that no man can change. "Thou shall not evict the people from their land, it is a sin".
My father has Purepecha roots.
You carry wonderful heritage , thanks for sharing and welcome ....
>Spanish - From Spain
>Hispanic - From the iberian peninsula Spain or Portugal (Hispania Roman times)
>Latino - Coming from a latin base (Italy, Spain, France, Portugal and Romania)
>Latin - No longer existing people who live in Rome, Italy and created the Latin languages
Why does UA-cam creator show American Indians and their history while explaining Mexican origin? Clovis culture and people were ancient North American Indian found in Central Plains of USA. Many photos shown are American Indians found in Central USA to Canadian Rockies, not from Mexico.
The inclusion of American Indian images and references, such as those related to the Clovis culture, in discussions about Mexican origins is actually quite relevant. The Clovis culture, which dates back over 13,000 years, is one of the earliest known cultures in North America and has been found across much of the continent, including parts of Mexico.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
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The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes
MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
By Victor Mejia
The concept of mestizaje indeed has complex implications, as it was used to both unify and marginalize. It’s important to recognize that while many Mexicans today identify as mestizo, this identity encompasses a wide range of cultural and ancestral backgrounds, including significant Indigenous heritage. The discussion around mestizaje is ongoing, and it remains a crucial part of understanding Mexico’s social and cultural history.
@@evoinception Spaniards are only 100k or so of the population (officially stated 🇪🇸 officials) in MX and afroMexicans are only 1% percent of the population but magically every Mxicn is mixd with Spniard and African. It still doesn’t add up….
If there is a reason we cant get together as native americans from the patagonia to Alasca is because Mexicans keep claiming they are somehow they were the only natives in America. It wasnt called america, It wasnt called mexico. You didnt even mentioned Incas, tainos or even Mayans. What's your problem?
There is no need to make personal attacks, i mentioned the groups that are in study , i cannot make things up, for the Incas and Tainos, i will look for separate research and post ...
@@evoinception there is no need for bulshit videos either
Native Americans are Asians😊 Their great ancestors migrated from Asia😊
there are conflicting views on this though ...
The eastern coast of America meshes well with the western coast of Europe and Africa, yet no one seems to think that some ancestors may have come from there, as well as the western coast of Asia. AND, since people "sprouted" everywhere, who is to say native Americans didn't just evolve there without external influences?
The study of Native American origins shows that the first peoples in the Americas likely migrated from Asia via the Bering land bridge during the last Ice Age, around 15,000 to 20,000 years ago. This theory is supported by both genetic evidence and archaeological findings. While the coastlines of America, Europe, and Africa do fit together geographically, the genetic and archaeological evidence overwhelmingly points to Asia as the primary source of the earliest inhabitants of the Americas.
100% chichimeca . Aunque debo confesar que en nuestro país hay mucha discriminación.
Gracias por compartir
If I am 90% European and 10% Native mexican, can i claim being a native American?
the study does not force any one to claim any specific category, its a scientific exploration to tell people about the original inhabitants of the Americas and what role native Mexicans played ...
Lina Marin was a skyscraper.
do not derail the discussion on genetics with such meaningless statements
Huichol on my dads side Purepecha on my moms side
thanks for sharing this wonderful info ...
I'm half Chinese and have Filipino what does that make me a China Pino😂
you carry wonderful heritage, do not concern too much with naming ...
US Native Americans have the distinction of deliberately being forced to become genetically and culturally isolated from white Anglo Protestant America. The Mexicans are certainly different in this regard as racial mixing in colonial Mexican went on virtually unrestricted.
you make a very interesting point here , the perspective of Native Americans on this is different though ...
Native American are Maya's descents
It's important to clarify that while some Native Americans in certain regions of Mexico and Central America are descendants of the Maya, not all Native Americans share this ancestry. The Maya civilization was primarily located in what is now southern Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, and parts of Honduras and El Salvador. Native Americans across the Americas have diverse origins, with different groups descending from various ancient civilizations such as the Aztecs, the Inca, and numerous other Indigenous cultures.
@@evoinception that what you think but there in North America too
I’m born and live in the Sonoran desert 🌵 my grandpa was half Yaqui for my Mom side and my other side from Culiacán, Sinaloa we’re different to Aztec , Mayan and others indigenous people. Not everyone one in Mexico is Mexica or Maya descendants.
@@antoniobanderas9769 same DNA 🧬 some are 15 percent some are more but have Maya's and Aztec trust me Maya's been in America for 30:000 year ago Sinaloa have alot Spaniards DNA
Maybe the issue is how we cluster the people, when they rearrange themselves based on culture.
You make an excellent point , while genetic studies often group people based on shared ancestry, it's also crucial to consider cultural and regional identities that have developed over time. The study shows that geographic and cultural factors, such as those seen in Mesoamerican and Aridoamerican regions, have significantly influenced the genetic makeup of different Indigenous groups.
"Recent European and African influences"... Huh? The overwhelming majority of individuals who do these vids always conveniently leave out Asian genetic influence from the Pacific slave trade that forcefully brought ppl from the Philippines, China, Laos, Indonesia, Japan, India ect to the Americas (specifically Mexico).. They were called Chinos and Mestizo-Sangley and were relocated here via Manila Galleon slave ships.. When speaking of indigenous genetics in the Americas, especially Mexico, its important not to leave out the "Pacific" slave trade.. WHY? Because even Geneticists have stated in many cases it's impossible to tell the difference between Native American genetic markers, and genetic markers from individuals who came on those Manila Galleon ships, as both groups originate in Asia.
So this is why people from Jalisco and down south look different from upstate Mexico
Yes, the study highlights that there are genetic differences among populations in different regions of Mexico, including between those from Jalisco and southern Mexico.
That fisrt mexican before Christopher Columbus discovered the new world where Black and Filipino
i do not think Mexico needed discovering, many people from various parts of worlds had always been intermixing, humans were far more adept at sea-faring then we might believe, some figures like Columbus get more highlighted due to era of colonisation that followed ...
Wrong way to say native mexicans they are native americans as well
"Native American" refers to all Indigenous peoples across the entire continent, from Alaska to Argentina, including those in Mexico. However, using "Native Mexicans" helps specify the region within the Americas and acknowledges the unique cultures and histories of the Indigenous peoples in modern-day Mexico. Both terms are accurate, depending on the context.
Sooo basically everything we already knew? What?
This study provides new insights, for instance it reveals the complex genetic structure of Indigenous populations in Mexico, showing connections to ancient lineages that diverged earlier than previously thought. It also highlights the significant impact of geography and historical migrations on the genetic diversity of these populations, offering a deeper understanding of how different groups have evolved and interacted over thousands of years. These findings add new layers to our knowledge of Indigenous history in the Americas.
I didn't type anything on this video like it reads in the bottom someone got into my line. I left comments below in another video
CIA videos
I left comments below in another video not this video post
Probably migration south to mesoamerica. A lot of people wonder what happened to the olmecs. My answer is humans are gonna human. :)
While the exact fate of the Olmecs is still debated, many researchers believe that they didn't simply disappear, but rather were absorbed into or influenced later Mesoamerican cultures, such as the Maya and the Aztecs.
@@evoinception yes, they were forced to migrate southward.
No, these few native groups with genetic shifts like he stated in the video are not related in what so ever with the Olmecs. You need to use more brain and not just assume every tribe is related.
@@Historyamerica thats what I meant dum dums.
How does one people force another people to flee from their lands? It's not by peaceful means.
We call ourselves raramuri not tarahumara that’s a Spanish name
I say planet earth. In the middle of fucking nowhere. So small.
I have to laugh at people saying Native Americans or Native Mexicans. The tribes got their own names man, y'all just a bunch of Europeans descendants.
yes , its a a term used to define a group of numerous tribe if the study was about one specific tribe would have referred to it as such ...
Everybody is to some extent
Yoy should ask Native tribal people living in the U.S. how they feel about being referred to as "American". We consider ourselves to be members of our individual tribal nations first and foremost. We don't need some non-Native person trying to define us or homogenize our identity. Go work on your European ancestors first instead of trying to seem like an expert on our history. Europeans focus on Europe challenge 2024.
this study emphasises the role played by these individual tribes that populated the Americas later, the term is being used as it is what in scientific circles ...
This is AI content, look how he responds to every reply here.
so replying to every content makes me AI, do not derail the discussion with such meaningless statements ...
Ancient Gods visited 4 or 5 areas in the World: America's, Africa, Middle East, Indie, China they built the first worshiping centers Pyramids, the taught their creation cultivation, and they like there booze to Tequila, Beer, Rice Wine, etc. etc. THINK?
Not tequila... but Pulque! (Aztec beer)
Keep on calling it Americas, is stupid. There is only one America, a whole continent. Americo bespuci never refer to it americas......
The term "Americas" is commonly used to refer to the two continents, North and South America, as a collective region. While it’s true that Amerigo Vespucci didn’t refer to it as "Americas," the plural form has become a standard way to recognize the diversity and vastness of the landmass, encompassing many countries and cultures. It’s similar to how we refer to other regions with multiple nations, like "the British Isles" or "the Balkans." The use of "Americas" is about acknowledging this diversity, not changing the original intent of the name.
@@evoinception The North and South designation did not become "common" until after WWII.
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American natives ans mexican natives are almost the same!
While American and Mexican Indigenous peoples share a common ancestry and many cultural similarities, they are not exactly the same.
No not close
The norther mexicas indigenus are the same as the natives of southwest United States, the eastern natives of the United States are diferents
@@evoinceptionexactly. I have strong Mexican native genes and a friend of mine has native American ancestry and we look way different from each other.
@@salvadorlopez1814 wrong about that,np proof of that
The Seri doesn't look anywhere near its neighbors. Maybe closer to the extinct Pericue
While there’s speculation about connections to the extinct Pericue, the Seri’s unique identity is more a result of their specific history and environmental adaptations.
@@evoinception since we dont know if the pericue had relationship to the Seri, your idea is also speculation
The real Americans are the natives from north to south the entire continent, and yes the original Americans are brown, any other color, they came from another continent
It's important to clarify that skin color is not a definitive marker of a person's origin. The idea that the "original Americans" were all of one specific skin color oversimplifies the complex history of human migration and diversity. While the earliest Indigenous peoples in the Americas likely had varying skin tones due to their adaptation to different environments, the concept of race and skin color is much more nuanced.
@@evoinception yes the shape of an indigenous people are different, but not by much. And the white color along with the color eyes it’s not one of the markers, and black with Afro hair also not one of it, it’s not that difficult
@luich2275 Yes and no. Well there were also pale natives around long before Eropeans showed up.
@@Egr-et6ar pale not white with color eyes
When my ancestors lived in that area it wasn’t “Mexico” so no 👎
“MEXICANS” didnt shape the “Americas”.
can you elaborate on your comment and what ancestry you have , so i can answer ...
Mexico is a Nahuatl word….. Mexican is a word that derived from Mexica, ie, Aztecs. Now what language did your ancestors speak?
Eco Institute, I like this subject matter of origins of people group. But, I don’t like your methodology.
When you did East Asians, you used certain haplo group DNA exclusively with random photos, but Mexican supporting data has not much DNA data.
People group aren’t just DNA, y-chromosome, mitochondria, or some haplogroups, but written and oral history, archeological data, language and culture. Otherwise Mongol empire in China seems like a small minority ethnicity, and Genghis Khan may be the father of one million children.
I hope you can develop your own unique successful UA-cam formula without erroneous titles and contents. Be honest about what data are available and why you came to your conclusion with incomplete data.
Do not make slanderous comments, the genetic data used in studies about populations like East Asians or Mexicans is extensive and carefully analyzed. In fact, studies of Mexican populations have revealed complex genetic structures that highlight the diverse origins of these groups, with data gathered from a variety of sources, including genome-wide studies.