Stephan Sterns JAIL EMAILS with Parents, They Want Jenn Soto ARRESTED! (Madeline Soto)

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  • Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
  • The District Attorney's office has released NEW Information in Madeline Soto's case, including jail emails from Stephan Sterns to his parents. Let's discuss the latest details.
    Case Background: Madeline Soto was last seen on February 26th, 2024. Her body was found five days later in a wooded area less than an hour from home and her mother's boyfriend was arrested. Stephan Sterns's phone revealed disgusting evidence of what he has been doing to Madeline since she was at least 8 years old. He has been charged with her murder and over 60 CSAM-related charges and faces the death penalty, if convicted.
    If you have any information/tips to help find Madeline, please contact the Orange County Sheriff's Office at 407-254-7000, or call 1-800-423-TIPS (8477) or call 911.
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:01:50 Over-coddling and enabling
    00:03:05 His parents want him to blame Jenn more?
    00:08:11 His trial is delayed
    00:09:45 His and Jenn's vehicle traveled to where Madeline's body was found
    00:19:00 Stephan went to the dumpster FIVE TIMES?
    00:26:49 "Not exactly the Ritz" - Stephan's email to his dad
    00:28:50 His needs to craft and use his hands satisfied?
    00:36:20 Stephan receiving lots of books from his wishlist from his parents
    00:40:09 Stephan complains about his jail cell
    00:40:46 His dad says "sorry to hear about the hassle"
    00:44:49 Stephan thinks he could go home?
    00:53:49 Stephan described his fitness and look to his parents
    00:56:33 He has hope and wants more candy
    01:02:00 He asks for more commissary money
    01:03:40 He brags about enjoying the books and what a "voracious" reader he is
    01:06:35 His coffee "will be delivered"
    01:19:42 Debrief and Outro
    FULL CASE PLAYLIST FOR YOU: • Madeline Soto
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    Gisela K.
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  • @GrizzlyTrueCrime
    @GrizzlyTrueCrime  23 дні тому +51

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:01:50 Over-coddling and enabling
    00:03:05 His parents want him to blame Jenn more?
    00:08:11 His trial is delayed
    00:09:45 His and Jenn's vehicle traveled to where Madeline's body was found
    00:19:00 Stephan went to the dumpster FIVE TIMES?
    00:26:49 "Not exactly the Ritz" - Stephan's email to his dad
    00:28:50 His needs to craft and use his hands satisfied?
    00:36:20 Stephan receiving lots of books from his wishlist from his parents
    00:40:09 Stephan complains about his jail cell
    00:40:46 His dad says "sorry to hear about the hassle"
    00:44:49 Stephan thinks he could go home?
    00:53:49 Stephan described his fitness and look to his parents
    00:56:33 He has hope and wants more candy
    01:02:00 He asks for more commissary money
    01:03:40 He brags about enjoying the books and what a "voracious" reader he is
    01:06:35 His coffee "will be delivered"
    01:19:42 Debrief and Outro
    FULL CASE PLAYLIST FOR YOU: ua-cam.com/play/PL0cYrgj38mhp8jbDI-QRMLrcFMxL-BTLJ.html

    • @henmaidstale
      @henmaidstale 23 дні тому +4

      Replay crew. Thank you Gisela. He sounds like an only child, have you told us if he has any siblings? I know it doesn't really matter and won't bring Madeline back. He's so sick, and clearly a master manipulator. Also, parents are docking pup's tails? They might be sick too.

    • @CrimeCurious
      @CrimeCurious 23 дні тому

      👏 👏 👏

    • @deeannray5093
      @deeannray5093 23 дні тому

      HEY! I already heard the news about this from another channel, BUT . .. . I just KNEW you were really going to give this one an AWESOME rant, which I can't WAIT to hear! lol - Susan Burns

    • @deeannray5093
      @deeannray5093 23 дні тому

      ACTUALLY, the idea someone in the chat came up with about buying out the Commissary at the jail all the candies, crackers, etc. is a FANTASTIC idea! If we were ALL to get together, how could we purchase these items to give to OTHER inmates at the jail, whom I'm SURE would be IMMENSELY appreciated by them. Could we ask them to just distribute them to other inmates or would we actually have to have the names, etc. I wonder how that would work. Anyone agree? Let's DO THIS . .. .. - Susan Burns

    • @sherrykrause3410
      @sherrykrause3410 23 дні тому +1

      @@henmaidstaleno siblings

  • @user-si8vt5gv1h
    @user-si8vt5gv1h 23 дні тому +271

    Of course his parents blame her. Has their precious son ever been responsible for anything he did in his life?

    • @Unknownreno
      @Unknownreno 23 дні тому +1

      This is all coming from a man that never SHOWERED?! 🤢

    • @mistypuffs
      @mistypuffs 23 дні тому +26

      I reckon whoever he’s with, he frames himself as a victim, and talks shit about how terrible everyone in his life who aren’t here are.
      I know someone with a similar victim mentality, unfortunately :(

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre 23 дні тому +7

      Of course not! Their baby boy is perfect 😒

    • @user-lo2xi5dr2u
      @user-lo2xi5dr2u 23 дні тому +10

      They probably want him to throw her under the bus to do a plea deal. Save their little boy from the death sentence.

    • @tinameyer7080
      @tinameyer7080 23 дні тому +8

      I didn't hear anything that they said that meant he's NOT responsible- just that, in their opinion, Jenn is responsible TOO. Did I miss something?

  • @bean6157
    @bean6157 23 дні тому +292

    You lose the presumption of innocence when you record your crimes on video

    • @kimmohekey7850
      @kimmohekey7850 23 дні тому +13

      I totally agree am watching from australia no death penalty here but totally agree when there is so much proof there is no doubt at all of innocence

    • @mirgrant
      @mirgrant 23 дні тому +8

      Oh, I know that’s what cracks me up. It’s like they’re all just completely ignoring an entire truth that no matter what he will go to jail for so…. 😂

    • @theeaundrea2254
      @theeaundrea2254 20 днів тому +1

      Very true

    • @oneneverlaughsenough
      @oneneverlaughsenough 20 днів тому +2

      ​@@mirgrantYes, that's some elephant in the room 😢

    • @leslieroth8447
      @leslieroth8447 18 днів тому

      Great point!

  • @morgandelvalle2671
    @morgandelvalle2671 23 дні тому +284

    Theyre acting like he's a kid off at college sending him care packages. Disgusting.

    • @joanbaczek2575
      @joanbaczek2575 23 дні тому +18

      When my son was in the penitentiary family was not allowed to send anything other than letters and pictures

    • @Roobz2000
      @Roobz2000 23 дні тому +13

      Yes! I thought the same exact thing!
      They are all sickos!😤

    • @hope4all366
      @hope4all366 23 дні тому +17

      Agree. I thought they were sending him off to camp the way they interacted with him. They all act like he's ten.

    • @donnakreye8339
      @donnakreye8339 23 дні тому +3

      So well said.

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому +4

      ​@joanbaczek2575 they shouldn't be with the horrible charges he's facing even though he's not convicted yet! The parents are in denial that they raised a Monster!!

  • @Sassy-x3r
    @Sassy-x3r 23 дні тому +228

    Can’t wait till the parents see 5 years worth of photos - sick p!g

    • @user-wl1hx8rh9g
      @user-wl1hx8rh9g 23 дні тому +48

      His parents probably won’t see those photos. Only the jury and lawyers … I guess it depends on the witnesses. But yea his shitty mom should have to see what a golden boy she raised. Arrest all of them, they’re all guilty of NOT protecting that baby girl.

    • @TurkeyFarmerGirl
      @TurkeyFarmerGirl 23 дні тому +30

      They know, they don't care. It's acceptable to them

    • @SavageBarbie305
      @SavageBarbie305 23 дні тому +28

      Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Maybe his parents already know.

    • @miligutierrez9973
      @miligutierrez9973 23 дні тому +8

      They will not be in court when they show those pixs
      That animal doesn’t even show to court 🤦🏻‍♂️😳

    • @chrystalspencer4697
      @chrystalspencer4697 23 дні тому

      Parents are probably pedos too

  • @ANNtique
    @ANNtique 23 дні тому +126

    I hate that he is in isolation. I want him to be scared every minute that someone is going to harm him (or worse). He doesn’t deserve protection

    • @kimdracula8229
      @kimdracula8229 23 дні тому +14

      This.
      But also, I want to see him face his charges. After he has been convicted and hopefully talked about Jens involvement, that's when I don't care if he gets some inmate justice.

    • @bobthetitanic
      @bobthetitanic 23 дні тому

      We have an 8th amendment, he's a scumbag. Do you want that happening to an innocent person?

    • @azureavocado5195
      @azureavocado5195 23 дні тому +8

      All of the worst child offenders are PROTECTED.
      Dispel the “prison justice” myth immediately.
      They are living comfortably in prison and that’s why these dudes categorically GAIN weight & reoffend= pure comfort.

    • @rhondaalbrecht
      @rhondaalbrecht 23 дні тому +4

      If he gets the DP, he will still be in isolation away from the Gen Pop. But someone will get to him, you can pretty much count on it.

    • @lunamoonlunamoon8340
      @lunamoonlunamoon8340 22 дні тому +5

      I think they have to do it for now so he’s available for trial

  • @lindamateri7298
    @lindamateri7298 23 дні тому +128

    Can you imagine how the prison staff despises him

    • @ladydrone2345
      @ladydrone2345 23 дні тому +23

      Hopefully they’ll ’accidentally’ let him into gen pop to find himself a spork.

    • @rhondaalbrecht
      @rhondaalbrecht 23 дні тому +4

      Jail staff don't give a darn, one way or another. They're there to do a job, nothing more. Believe me, I know from personal experience.

    • @bonniekellyromeo9073
      @bonniekellyromeo9073 22 дні тому +5

      Remember how nice the Sherriff was that did his transport? Ridiculous

    • @vegskater1741
      @vegskater1741 20 днів тому +5

      @@bonniekellyromeo9073 The sheriff was nice to him only to try to get him to talk.

    • @bonniekellyromeo9073
      @bonniekellyromeo9073 20 днів тому +2

      @@vegskater1741 he was driving him to the jail, not interrogating him. He talked to him about music and bs like that.

  • @mandia41566
    @mandia41566 23 дні тому +102

    Remember when SS told the cops that he cares for his “elderly” parents?
    That sounds like a lie too, based on how ABLE they are in taking care of their oversized toddler while he’s in jail.

    • @Thepublicaccount
      @Thepublicaccount 23 дні тому +6

      FaceTime that’s what I was thinking the way that he described them in the interview was he was helping them to do things to wrap up at the end of their life. These people are obviously very capable of driving around using technology taking care of multiple animals so was he planning on killing them? Were they next?

    • @SusanaXpeace2u
      @SusanaXpeace2u 23 дні тому +7

      @@Thepublicaccount wow. good insight. This is a real danger with these deviant, predatory adult sons who have no plan for their own life. They are so entitled but they know that they have no resources and their only path to financial security is to murder their parents/mother.

    • @barbarahendryx809
      @barbarahendryx809 22 дні тому +3

      He asks about the dog everytime but never asks how his parents are.

    • @jeanablake2302
      @jeanablake2302 22 дні тому +3

      And, & told the cops how much he hates the poodles, too. Smh at all his comments to mom about those precious pups...

  • @wandervan2648
    @wandervan2648 23 дні тому +128

    So there was another 13-year-old girl killed in Orange County, Fl. by a Haitian immigrant. She was S/A'd and stabbed to death on July 4th in an apartment complex. She died en route to the hospital. Her name was Rose Dieujuste and the assailant had previous incidents with the law. I am so disgusted with men doing this to young children. there seems to be no fear of their consequences. It's a shame things can't be taken into our own hands. It is sad and disgusting for young female teens in this world who can't even walk around in their own apartment complex and be young.

    • @joanbaczek2575
      @joanbaczek2575 23 дні тому +20

      Immigrant or illegal- there’s a difference

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre 23 дні тому +5

      @@joanbaczek2575you sound bright 😂 …what’s the difference? Their skin tone?? 😏

    • @ronikeen
      @ronikeen 23 дні тому +20

      ​@@FabiolaMacabrewe have legal immigrants

    • @coinkydink
      @coinkydink 23 дні тому +16

      It is MEN

    • @yeahB
      @yeahB 23 дні тому +3

      ⁠actually your respond sounds even more dumb, but on a different level

  • @Nope-NotToday
    @Nope-NotToday 23 дні тому +85

    The fact that he had a hook up with his co worker and kept talking about Maddie, says it all. Pos

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 23 дні тому +91

    I don't think he'll find anyone to swap Pokémon cards in prison

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre 23 дні тому +4

      Lmao 😅 😂

    • @mirgrant
      @mirgrant 23 дні тому

      Or anyone else who has as much candy allowance at the commissary 😂 deviant spoiled brat baby ! 🤢

    • @angbry8305
      @angbry8305 21 день тому

      Oh yeah? He'll find out if he drops the soap

    • @WarriorWomanWaWo
      @WarriorWomanWaWo 20 днів тому

      He could always become a pen pal with Duh-tell Brooks 😒

  • @tuxitalk1World
    @tuxitalk1World 23 дні тому +69

    His father is worried more about the comfort and commissary, than he is about his son being a murderer.

    • @lisajeter9511
      @lisajeter9511 23 дні тому +7

      His parents don’t blame him for killing Madeline. It’s JennSoto’s fault! Remember!

    • @sweetsongstress7398
      @sweetsongstress7398 23 дні тому +2

      I’m sure he’s very very worried about this. As he stated in the email it’s a matter of life and death.

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому

      ​@@lisajeter9511 That kind of attitude is exactly why their so turned out to be a disgusting child rapist Monster! Uggh!!

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому +2

      ​@@sweetsongstress7398😂😅😂😅

    • @carlamangine6074
      @carlamangine6074 22 дні тому +3

      I love how he talks as if he will have a chance at ever getting out..... In a pine box, maybe....😂

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 23 дні тому +124

    Parents seem like Brian Laundries parents..your child can do know wrong even when the facts are slapping you in the face.

    • @Unknownreno
      @Unknownreno 23 дні тому +7

      This psycopath talks of the tomigotchis with such importance probably because it is all he will have left to remember Maddie. Too bad death penalty is coming

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre 23 дні тому +7

      Exactly like the laundries

    • @margarethgibson3794
      @margarethgibson3794 23 дні тому

      He's disgusting

    • @TSUNAMI-MAMI
      @TSUNAMI-MAMI 23 дні тому +4

      Reminds me like Chris Watts family

  • @NataliaRodriguez11558
    @NataliaRodriguez11558 23 дні тому +62

    I think the mother was somewhat part of the outcome but, he was the abuser. The mother was an enabler

    • @stellaallbright4750
      @stellaallbright4750 23 дні тому +8

      I don't believe that the public knows how involved Jen was, time will tell. 💔

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому +6

      Right and stupid to trust him or any other any other man around her poor child😢😢

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому +4

      ​@@stellaallbright4750true but we will see. That still doesn't excuse the hell he made of this child's
      Life...since she was only 8 years old!!!

  • @DreaPark
    @DreaPark 23 дні тому +28

    My soon to be ex mother in law is just like this. Her son ran off on me and our child, for drugs and another woman… his mom said “I left him no choice” because I wouldn’t put up with any of it. He was studying to be a pastor when I met him…… lied about his drug use, and realize he’s a con artist, sociopath.
    ALL their mothers are like this. Disgusting.

    • @refinnej5302
      @refinnej5302 20 днів тому +2

      Yes, Mt ex bf's parents blamed me for not putting up with him getting wasted and almost burning our house down when he'd nod out with a cigarette. I "nagged too much."

  • @cassandramagnusson1787
    @cassandramagnusson1787 23 дні тому +21

    I have 3 boys.... 2 teenage and one pre teen..... They all know if they do something illegal, Im gonna be the first person to call the cops!! Coddling does nothing but makes them think they can do anything and expect to get away with it!! No way!! Hold your children accountable!!

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 23 дні тому +69

    Stern's is the type that tells bad stories to all the different people he knows about the other people like he's always the victim.

  • @kosmosbjm
    @kosmosbjm 23 дні тому +25

    It’s hard to believe the parents can even remotely think that his actions could be blamed on someone else. He’s a grown man who committed SA for years on a little girl, then murdered her, yet the parents are still coddling him as their son who can do no wrong.

    • @hope4all366
      @hope4all366 23 дні тому +3

      I wonder what he has told his parents? Definitely not the truth. He is manipulating them. He makes me sick, and his parents aren't too far from that either. He makes me sick. Why did he take Jenn's car in the middle of the night and go back to the dumping ground? Was he already trying to set her up?

  • @user-wl1hx8rh9g
    @user-wl1hx8rh9g 23 дні тому +73

    Gisela you are the BOSS of True Crime!!! We just love you and everything you bring to us. You’re awesome Lady!!

  • @alabaster193
    @alabaster193 23 дні тому +77

    When Sterns was younger, his roommate found child p0rn on his computer as he was cleaning it out for him. Stern's mother paid off the guy to keep quiet about this. Did she forget that she technically committed a crime by doing so? Poor Maddie would be alive if that family, especially his mother, had any sense of decency.

    • @AllisonChains
      @AllisonChains 23 дні тому +11

      I wonder how the roommate feels now.

    • @alabaster193
      @alabaster193 23 дні тому +5

      @@AllisonChains He did an interview and tried to justify his actions by saying he was young and broke.

    • @Pinkdiamond12
      @Pinkdiamond12 22 дні тому +9

      The roommate is vile for not reporting him to police.

    • @KathyJack-k4n
      @KathyJack-k4n 22 дні тому +3

      I wonder if SS was abused as a child, and the mom knew about it and thays why she protects him still.

    • @oneneverlaughsenough
      @oneneverlaughsenough 20 днів тому +2

      ​@alabaster193 No excuse. He's short on integrity.

  • @robmcmullen9192
    @robmcmullen9192 23 дні тому +25

    Replay watcher here! His parents are in complete denial! It is a shame that it has come down to this! Thank you for all of your hard work, G! Justice for Madeline!

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому +4

      Yes Justice for Maddie Soto!!!❤❤

  • @KellyBGlamm
    @KellyBGlamm 23 дні тому +47

    So they’re not disgusted and sickened by what he did to a child, good God😡

  • @PatsyC57
    @PatsyC57 23 дні тому +34

    Comfort matters to psychopaths and their disturbing families, who is the victim here? Not Maddie, just ask the Sterns and their monster.

  • @GothGlamxo
    @GothGlamxo 23 дні тому +55

    This is disgusting, people/parents need to disown their children if they’re any sort of sexual offender predator, how disgusting for these parents .

    • @kimdracula8229
      @kimdracula8229 23 дні тому +4

      Agree! But I also would want to wait before severing ties. For me I would want answers. Maybe still having some contact would make them feel safe to divulge information?

    • @GothGlamxo
      @GothGlamxo 23 дні тому +1

      @@kimdracula8229 that’s true . Definitely . Wow 🤯

    • @jennyjenjen9180
      @jennyjenjen9180 23 дні тому +4

      They probably demons too

    • @OldJoeBlows
      @OldJoeBlows 23 дні тому +7

      I have told my children, there are limits to my support. If they choose to harm anyone for any reason other than self defense, I will not have their backs.

    • @rhondaalbrecht
      @rhondaalbrecht 23 дні тому +5

      @@jennyjenjen9180 My thought, as well. Mom is an enabler (think along the lines of Roberta Laundrie, Brian Laundrie's mother, who let him get away with his narcissistic behavior). I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Sterns' father is also a sexual predator. It has a tendency to run in the family.

  • @sandiequinn9400
    @sandiequinn9400 23 дні тому +20

    My blood is boiling!! 😡😡 Over these emails!

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 23 дні тому +41

    What are his parents talking about
    "All he different partners"
    Did the 🤮pics go back 8 years she's only turned 13yo and how would they know about Jens previous relationships?
    Unless Stern's told them garbage about her so they feel sorry for him.

    • @kimdracula8229
      @kimdracula8229 23 дні тому

      I think you're right, I BET Stephan has been spinning crap about Jen and everyone else in his life to make himself a victim.
      Not saying Jen is innocent, there's some shady stuff with her which I can't wait to find out, but I definitely think Stephan is full of 🐂💩

    • @Phoenix8Rising
      @Phoenix8Rising 23 дні тому +5

      Probably..he spouts crap constantly 💩🚽.

    • @katherinefuschino8589
      @katherinefuschino8589 23 дні тому +10

      Right!! She shouldn’t judge others partners when her son was SA’ing an 8 yr old…insanity!!

    • @stellaallbright4750
      @stellaallbright4750 23 дні тому +5

      Jen doesn't look like a hustler, like she's reeling in all the big fish. That's part of why men like this gravitate towards women like Jen to access their children. We don't know yet just how involved Jen was in the abuse and exploitation of Maddie.

  • @MG-ot2yr
    @MG-ot2yr 23 дні тому +40

    Now you know why Stephan turned out the way he did, mommas boy, the golden child who can do nothing wrong....always someone else's fault.

  • @amybeck9161
    @amybeck9161 23 дні тому +17

    I can not be more disgusted by this family, except by Chris Watts family and Brian Laundries family. Protecting their psyco sons is disturbing.

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 23 дні тому +5

      So common someone needs to write a book about that particular psychopathy!!!

    • @Regnbeans
      @Regnbeans 20 днів тому +4

      @@Juke582seriously how many women are going to die bc of this disturbing family dynamic

  • @Aozziegamer99
    @Aozziegamer99 23 дні тому +33

    They never allowed this monster to grow up.

    • @m0L3ify
      @m0L3ify 23 дні тому +7

      That's a really accurate assessment of the situation

    • @Phoenix8Rising
      @Phoenix8Rising 23 дні тому +2

      They share the blame.

  • @FabiolaMacabre
    @FabiolaMacabre 23 дні тому +27

    The fact that some ppl ACTUALLY believe he is covering for Jenn and that his mom’s words are fact😅… did ppl forget how much this guy lies and manipulates? He’s such a selfish monster (literally took an innocent girls life and body 🤮) so ppl actually think he’d cover for anyone??? He only cares about his needs and himself. If she was responsible or involved directly in any way he would 100% already thrown her under the bus. He is manipulating his parents… Get real ppl! 😅.
    P.s. I LOVE the snark in this video 😂

  • @marygoff3332
    @marygoff3332 23 дні тому +47

    I do not understand parents who support their sons, when overwhelming evidence supports their guilt. If one of my sons did this, all contact would be cut off and they would be disowned. Perhaps parents like these are WHY their sons are monsters....

    • @henmaidstale
      @henmaidstale 23 дні тому +9

      Parents don't want to believe their child did something bad, despite evidence. I would turn a family member in if I thought they harmed someone especially a child!
      Thanks you Gisela, replay crew. Peace

  • @Donald909090
    @Donald909090 23 дні тому +29

    Put him in jails main pop and tell them what he is accused of. Then his day will not go well.

    • @coralieg1947
      @coralieg1947 23 дні тому +4

      Oh, that day is coming! He'll be lucky to live four years.

    • @lisajeter9511
      @lisajeter9511 23 дні тому +4

      I’m sure the other inmates already know what he’s there for! There just waiting to catch him out on the yard one day!

    • @johnmorgun9961
      @johnmorgun9961 23 дні тому

      That's not right on any level.

    • @aSoldiersGirlieGirl
      @aSoldiersGirlieGirl 23 дні тому

      Oh believe me, the entire prison knows he is there and probably what cell he is in!

    • @GardeningGems
      @GardeningGems 22 дні тому +1

      It’s sad to say that his kind are almost always in PC (protective custody) they usually keep their kind together. It’s unfortunate.

  • @nhangnguyen5252
    @nhangnguyen5252 23 дні тому +32

    His parents are delusional. SS is the most selfish person alive. Except for JS. He would've ratted her out immediately if he could get something from it. That's not to say I think JS is innocent either. She also enabled SS so that she could remain in the relationship

    • @mirgrant
      @mirgrant 23 дні тому +1

      Perfect point!

  • @TurkeyFarmerGirl
    @TurkeyFarmerGirl 23 дні тому +41

    IF, IF, i got a email from my parents.
    It would be to tell me they will not be accepting charges for phone calls and that i was dead to them.

    • @marygoff3332
      @marygoff3332 23 дні тому +14

      Yep. I can't fathom acting this way as a parent.

    • @audreyguilbeaucalhoun5713
      @audreyguilbeaucalhoun5713 23 дні тому +12

      For real… my mom (rip) don’t do anything to embarrass family and family name, if you fall in the hands of cops, I can’t help you! We ALL brothers AND me, grew up knowing this.

    • @kimberlyprice4803
      @kimberlyprice4803 23 дні тому +12

      Exactly! I know parents whose daughter and boyfriend severely neglected three kids under three. They were jailed and their daughter called them to bail her out. That did not happen. When she got out, they moved residence and raised her kids without their daughter and her boyfriend. No visitation rights.

    • @judymurray191
      @judymurray191 23 дні тому

      @@audreyguilbeaucalhoun5713 that’s how it should be.

  • @sdrahcir5054
    @sdrahcir5054 23 дні тому +31

    I love the question his pops asked “is there any other mind games or crosswords or anything like that you’d like?….” LOOOL yeah he def knows a thing or two about mind games alright. JFC

    • @sdrahcir5054
      @sdrahcir5054 23 дні тому

      And how tf do these idiot parents not realize the irony of ordering him a book called “Prey” ….who knows what it’s about but Christ, is that what he really needs?? I’d send him a Bible in Spanish and tell him to get bent.

    • @KathyJack-k4n
      @KathyJack-k4n 22 дні тому +2

      Lol that's crazy he said it like that 😅

  • @AmirahJoy
    @AmirahJoy 23 дні тому +13

    Right before you said “It makes one nauseous” I said out loud to myself “This literally makes me nauseous”.

  • @rebekahedwards5318
    @rebekahedwards5318 23 дні тому +19

    Thanks for being the absolute best u-tube channel for prompt and reliable information!! Your accent is wonderful,no need to worry how well you pronounce. 🌹

  • @jacsumi7029
    @jacsumi7029 23 дні тому +9

    I’ve worked with criminals for over 30 years and I always say “if you don’t hold your kid accountable table then have fun visiting them in prison. Case in point!!!
    It’s also interesting to me how little he and his parents care about each other. They never follow up with each other about hard topics. They all appear to compete for attention. Very dysfunctional

  • @cabooseabs6864
    @cabooseabs6864 23 дні тому +11

    When he was a kid and got in trouble I bet he would blame a "friend" but be like "I can't tell you who" because there was no friend. It was him.

    • @Regnbeans
      @Regnbeans 20 днів тому +1

      For sure and his parents just believed him instead of realizing their child is a sociopath

  • @corinnathechocolatelabmom
    @corinnathechocolatelabmom 23 дні тому +13

    I can’t be the only one nauseous 🤮 such sickness!!! Thanks again G ❤

  • @SaltyBuzzard
    @SaltyBuzzard 23 дні тому +28

    As far as I’m concerned, he can be trading his bussy for coffee and candy! 🤬🤬🤬

  • @Cindy-gu3jv
    @Cindy-gu3jv 23 дні тому +20

    His mom seems like Chris Watts mom. Crazy

  • @coralieg1947
    @coralieg1947 23 дні тому +10

    Parents remind me of Cindy Watts in her jail calls to Chris. Blaming Shannan for murdering her grandchildren and making sure he had all the little luxuries. Made me sick.

  • @AndreaWard-us9qe
    @AndreaWard-us9qe 23 дні тому +5

    It sounds like everytime Stephan got in trouble he blamed “friends,” then told his parents he wouldn’t “tell” on them because he was such a good friend. Problem is, it was him all along and his parents fell for it and still think he’s the golden one. 🙄

  • @Hootski79
    @Hootski79 23 дні тому +14

    I just cannot believe these mothers. I love your detailed information and your snark. Love Grizzly true crime ❤️!

    • @Hootski79
      @Hootski79 23 дні тому +1

      And the origami visual aid! 😆

  • @NataliaRodriguez11558
    @NataliaRodriguez11558 23 дні тому +16

    HE IS GUILTY!

  • @RoyalWatcher1985
    @RoyalWatcher1985 23 дні тому +18

    "Bro, Death Row is probably how things will go" - You're right but it made me laugh out loud.

  • @ladydrone2345
    @ladydrone2345 23 дні тому +22

    It would NOT surprise me if we find out that Stephan’s parents both ‘messed with’ him while he was growing up. There is a very strange dynamic between the three of them.

  • @kahlospirit24
    @kahlospirit24 22 дні тому +7

    "Not your fault"... A parents denial. Must be hard to accept your son is a monster

  • @margarethgibson3794
    @margarethgibson3794 23 дні тому +10

    First he killed her spirit. Then he took her life.

    • @marilynbrown3488
      @marilynbrown3488 20 днів тому +1

      This is so tragic 😢my heart sank with the thought 💔 of how much pain she had to live with. 😢her mother should also be held accountable for her death. RIP sweetheart...

  • @marciamolloy2574
    @marciamolloy2574 23 дні тому +6

    Well, poor Maddie will never be able to see the palm trees blowing in the wind, or the blue sky ever again either, because she was murdered at age 13. This creep is lower than low.

  • @lauraray611
    @lauraray611 23 дні тому +23

    It acts like it’s just living a small life in a freaking cafe. ‘I need my two cups of coffee every day and books…lots of 📚. Oh and check on my toys for me.’ 🤮🙄

    • @judymurray191
      @judymurray191 23 дні тому

      And send me more money.

    • @SusanaXpeace2u
      @SusanaXpeace2u 23 дні тому +2

      you're right, he's trapped in a quiet cafe, on a budget but still.

  • @helene1779
    @helene1779 23 дні тому +17

    😡😡😡⚖️⚖️⚖️Justice for Madeline⚖️⚖️⚖️

  • @elviarivera5711
    @elviarivera5711 23 дні тому +4

    4.7 people watch Grizzala you are so blessed and presenting crime greatly appreciated. You are the voice for the victims. Absolutely love your channel ❤

  • @RandC2
    @RandC2 23 дні тому +9

    You can say it like no one else Gisela, your snark is wonderful!! It’s the only way to listen to these conversations 😂does he really think he’ll get out??🤯😂

  • @katiedenney7866
    @katiedenney7866 23 дні тому +16

    I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty but he literally had videos of him abusing maddy...slam dunk case

    • @CSE1619
      @CSE1619 23 дні тому +7

      They have video of him moving her dead body from the passenger seat to the trunk. Lock him up & throw away the key if you ask me.

    • @katiedenney7866
      @katiedenney7866 23 дні тому +3

      @CSE1619 agree! He don't even need a trial. All the video proof is all there

    • @katiedenney7866
      @katiedenney7866 23 дні тому +4

      @CSE1619 I didn't know they had video of him moving her body though damn! What more proof would anyone need. None. It's all there.

  • @lisajeter9511
    @lisajeter9511 23 дні тому +12

    I couldnt support a son like that

  • @lindamateri7298
    @lindamateri7298 23 дні тому +29

    OMG if my son had done this the last thing I would do is make sure he gets his toys and books , I would wash my hands of him

    • @Phoenix8Rising
      @Phoenix8Rising 23 дні тому

      Toys! How old is this idiot?

    • @1277martinez
      @1277martinez 23 дні тому

      Im not astonished by his parents behavior. Here in Florida some parents are very ignorants and normilize bad conducts because they they are not bad or think their kids do no harm. Check these parents because they could have bodies in their closets.

  • @dawngrimes7361
    @dawngrimes7361 23 дні тому +8

    You are absolutely amazing! Thank you for reading the court documents no matter how many pages 🙌 😊

  • @debswatching
    @debswatching 23 дні тому +13

    Jails and prisons used to have libraries or at least a “bookmobile” type wheeled cart for books for inmates.

    • @calibling
      @calibling 21 день тому +1

      They still do but it’s evident his using self wants “specialized” books, like serious fantasy world and making toys like he still reliving the toys he made with Maddie, what a sick Ffffffff!!!!😮😮😮

    • @Regnbeans
      @Regnbeans 20 днів тому

      @@calibling Ya they def have some books already in there he just wants his own and mommy is happy to send him whatever he wants

  • @sashageorge9262
    @sashageorge9262 23 дні тому +23

    He's asking for several hundreds of US$ for books. Whose paying for his lawyers? Florida citizens or his parents?

    • @techwithbec
      @techwithbec 22 дні тому +2

      @@sashageorge9262 I'm curious to know the answer

  • @Graciela.Feb28th
    @Graciela.Feb28th 23 дні тому +7

    ❤ You are a legend G!! ❤ The worst "family" on Earth omg! 😢Just waking up 8am here... with a cuppa watching the reply!

  • @adrianc1264
    @adrianc1264 23 дні тому +11

    He's gonna need his own library soon. Maybe he trades them after he's read them for commissary

  • @julieteegarden1814
    @julieteegarden1814 23 дні тому +2

    “My cheekbones are sticking out so much they could cut you.”
    Can’t roll my eyes hard enough 🙄😡

  • @sicilyny5375
    @sicilyny5375 23 дні тому +6

    My biggest thoughts and analyzing this creature is stemming from this interaction.
    What was going on his childhood? These actions by parents, could be guilt...either they SA him or knew who did and are overcompensating for this.
    This is a common reaction to a child( grown)that's been abused.
    OR
    They are so deep in denial they can't fathom the idea their child can do such horrible acts, so they treat him as if he's innocent.

  • @lisajeter9511
    @lisajeter9511 23 дні тому +5

    I can’t wait for his trial to start so he can explain the pictures of his phone.

  • @user-ss6yn8ko5h
    @user-ss6yn8ko5h 23 дні тому +20

    I blame his parents mostly because they raised him… Creeps 😢

    • @Yahtai
      @Yahtai 23 дні тому

      I'm guessing you have no children?

  • @joanbaczek2575
    @joanbaczek2575 23 дні тому +6

    They can’t face the guilt their son is a monster because they see him as extension of themselves. In their minds to believe he’s a monster means they have to believe they are monsters. And depending on his upbringing and environment that could be true too

  • @kchabak68
    @kchabak68 23 дні тому +7

    Just when you think Sterns can't possibly be more reprehensible and disgusting, he proves you wrong. He's concerned with his toys and I wonder if he's worried about the loss of his favorite child grooming paraphernalia in the pathetic hope he gets released. No remorse at all.I find his family self-absorbed, small-minded, and insufferable. I really don't think I can stomach learning anymore about the innermost workings of one of the most deserving objects of prison justice I've ever seen.

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 23 дні тому +1

      Well said! This creep is unreal! His parents worse!

    • @1277martinez
      @1277martinez 23 дні тому

      He is preparing himself for when he enter general population. Prisons have a different ethic and people could offer pritection for this kind of things.

  • @NataliaRodriguez11558
    @NataliaRodriguez11558 23 дні тому +10

    If my son did what he did, I would be blaming him and disgusted by him

  • @Char_43
    @Char_43 23 дні тому +6

    Hello G and all you lovely Grizzlies! I missed Live, been on vacation. Nice to be back.

  • @lisajeter9511
    @lisajeter9511 23 дні тому +5

    He wasn’t smart enough to throw away his phone was he? What a FOOL!

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 23 дні тому +8

    Are his parents paying for his lawyers?

    •  23 дні тому +2

      IF court appointed, no.

  • @CrystalNaidu
    @CrystalNaidu 23 дні тому +3

    You be you Gisela that is why we love this channel because you not faking you the real deal❤❤❤

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 23 дні тому +14

    He's innocent till proven guilty even though they have all that evidence on his phone.
    They can only force him into court when he's been found guilty.
    I don't like it but that's how it is.
    He knows he's been busted and that's why he's hiding in his cell.

  • @nancymoon-rush2888
    @nancymoon-rush2888 23 дні тому +14

    The emails are disgusting. Parents EXCUSING what their son did??? They are just as awful as he is.

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 23 дні тому +1

      This keeps happening with sick delusional parents! Unreal!

  • @Donald909090
    @Donald909090 23 дні тому +8

    Wherever he goes, inmates will know who he is.

  • @29sagittarius51
    @29sagittarius51 23 дні тому +4

    Love your channel!! Thank you for all the hard work you do to keep up in the loop .

  • @yvonnereza4824
    @yvonnereza4824 23 дні тому +5

    Thank you Gisela! I love 💗 your channel & you so much!! Please dear God, Justice for Madeline! This “baby boy” is such a sinful, spoiled creep! Your humerous snarky jokes about him are the Best. 🙏👍🏼💯🥰😘

  • @kimberlyprice4803
    @kimberlyprice4803 23 дні тому +56

    I have a huge problem with prisoners getting books, tablets, T. V.., commissary money, anything entertaining. If you give your kids a 10 minute time out, do you give them entertainment and snacks?

    • @judymurray191
      @judymurray191 23 дні тому +8

      I agree with you…especially with endless supply from his parents.

    • @longlegs7881
      @longlegs7881 23 дні тому +12

      Bored prisoners will find a way to combat boredom. Trust me it's best they have something and it would be cruel not to give them something. Trust me, prison is still horrible even with books n tv. With tablets they cannot access wifi so they can't get on social media or browse. They are for music, emails and photos they receive.

    • @m0L3ify
      @m0L3ify 23 дні тому +11

      Jail isn't a 10 minute time out. That's not a relevant analogy, especially if you spend years in there just waiting for your trial to start. Also, commissary isn't just used for "fun" stuff. It's also so they can buy necessities like higher quality hygiene items.

    • @tinameyer7080
      @tinameyer7080 23 дні тому +2

      Why does it bother you? There are three reasons for removing people from "free" society. Punishment/Retribution, Rehabilitation and Public Safety.....Irrespective of how "comfortable" the family makes it for incarcerated persons- how does that alter the "effectiveness" in achieving it's purpose?

    • @CeciliaGonzalez-bi3yh
      @CeciliaGonzalez-bi3yh 23 дні тому +3

      ​@longlegs7881 who cares if it's cruel

  • @CuriousNanna
    @CuriousNanna 23 дні тому +3

    OMg, Bahahaaa ~ Giesla, you are cracking me up. I love the snarkyness and the facial expressions. You are not only brilliantly smart, but you are so entertaining at times. Love all that you are as a creator and a genuine good person. Thank you for all your hard work. You are appreciated.

  • @judymurray191
    @judymurray191 23 дні тому +7

    You told everyone not to think anything negative about reading the same books as this killer, rightfully so, BUT I do have some pride that I’m not reading any of the books he has chosen. 😂😂😂

  • @katiedenney7866
    @katiedenney7866 23 дні тому +12

    Wow his parents act like he did nothing....I'm sorry but if my child did that too another child I would not be supporting him in any way in jail....of course i would still love him but I would not be supporting him nor making him comfortable

  • @criminallyfocused
    @criminallyfocused 23 дні тому +3

    These parents... Wow. I can't imagine how I would feel if my child did something like this but I do know I wouldn't be enabling them. He's obviously done a number on them. Thanks for covering this G. Your snark is so needed to make this bareable

  • @philpjfry
    @philpjfry 23 дні тому +10

    If his parent's blame him they would be guilty of raising a monster or not being good parents. IMO That's psychopathic thinking. Blame everyone else and don't take responsibility or show concern for anyone but yourself. Im not saying she's not involved or shouldn't be charged. Im saying the apple didn't fall far from the tree here. 🤔🙄

    • @techwithbec
      @techwithbec 22 дні тому

      Good point. If mom is a narcissist then image is everything.

    • @Womenswarrior-v3f
      @Womenswarrior-v3f 18 днів тому

      Family of narcissistic people

  • @unknownhumanbeing7935
    @unknownhumanbeing7935 23 дні тому +4

    So, the parents are blaming Jen for letting Stephan around her daughter. If she hadn't have let him be around each other then he wouldn't have done what he did? DISGUSTING PARENTS!!!

  • @CaroLinek88
    @CaroLinek88 23 дні тому +3

    I agree with you on all of this. Thanks for covering this. 🎉

  • @nhangnguyen5252
    @nhangnguyen5252 23 дні тому +7

    Rewatcher here. My snarky pants are freshly back from the dry cleaners and ready for some more snark.

  • @elaineoshaughnessy3391
    @elaineoshaughnessy3391 23 дні тому +6

    You make me laugh with your expression I know you want to call him all the names under the sun he is in for a rude awakening Thanku for all you do from Ireland

  • @nangolfer46
    @nangolfer46 23 дні тому +45

    Mom blaming Jen....she is in total denial. Remember this is the same Mom who paid off Stern's roommate to keep quiet her perverted son's computer files. Remember, Stern's has years of manipulating and lying to his mother.... his first victim. As Mom says, don't take the blame like you did for others??? Sterns has never taken blame for anything. I'm sure he told his Mom how Jen wanted him to molest Madeline, along with who else knows all the lies he's told his parents. That woman created this Psychopath... if she believes that he committed these acts then she has to accept that she created this sadistic psychopath.
    I believe Jen is guilty of being naive, totally brainwashed by Sterns and trusted him 100%, so much so she allowed him to sleep with her daughter.
    I believe Jen would have been arrested by now if she was involved, and then a plea deal offered for her testimony. This case brings to mind the Kelsey Barreth case in Colorado. Patrick Frazee tried to get his girlfriend, Krystal Lee to kill Kelsey, but she couldn't do it. He then had Krystal clean up the crime scene when he did the job himself. Krystal was arrested, then they began to work on a plea deal if she testified. I feel, if they had anything on Jen, she would have been arrested by now.

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre 23 дні тому +4

      I completely agree, it blows my mind that I’ve read so many comments (in other videos from other creators who are pushing this narrative) that sterns’ moms words mean anything or are factual. It’s super clear to me that he’s lying to them 🤦‍♀️ to save face and even seem heroic, because he is taking the blame for HER, what a hero and gentleman! (Sarcasm) it’s incredible. And you make such a good point, it’s obvious this has happened before where he does something and blames others for it , but he is “covering” for them, ok 👍 😅.

    • @FabiolaMacabre
      @FabiolaMacabre 23 дні тому +3

      @@Katydid1she at least lied to the cops , imo just repeating the bullcrap he told her. & She was absent and neglectful.

    • @lauraray611
      @lauraray611 23 дні тому +3

      I totally agree..

    • @larserna
      @larserna 23 дні тому +2

      Where is Jenn?

    • @lisajeter9511
      @lisajeter9511 23 дні тому

      She was certainly guilty of. child Neglect & Child endangerment. But everything we think she should have known or seen. I really don’t believe she did. She trusted every word the Monster fed her on a daily basis!

  • @Donald909090
    @Donald909090 23 дні тому +6

    He will always be isolated. The first time he goes in the main pop, he will be popped?

  • @NancyDrew1
    @NancyDrew1 23 дні тому +26

    As a mom I would never stop loving my child but I would not condone his behavior or make him comfortable in prison. I would be heartbroken forever and ever! I would pray he would ask for forgiveness!

    • @katiedenney7866
      @katiedenney7866 23 дні тому +8

      Same! I would still love my child but I would not be supporting that nor would I help make him more comfortable in prison.

    • @CeciliaGonzalez-bi3yh
      @CeciliaGonzalez-bi3yh 23 дні тому

      ​@@katiedenney7866 gross

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 23 дні тому

      Sounds like you would send him money out of some sick love?

    • @katiedenney7866
      @katiedenney7866 23 дні тому

      @Juke582 no...I said I WOULD NOT support my child if he did something like that...how do you get I would send him money out of me saying that? Lol wow.

    • @franceskonwai823
      @franceskonwai823 22 дні тому

      Same. I have 3 sons I believe are growing up to be decent humans. But I TOLD ALL 3... YOU HURT A WOMAN, CHILD OR MAN INTENTIONALLY. I WOULD LOVE YOU AS YOU ARE MY CHILD. BUT I WILL DISOWN YOU. I WILL CUT ALL CONTACT KNOWING IT WILL BREAK MY HEART. I WILL NOT FORGIVE NOR FORGET WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

  • @pressstart1685
    @pressstart1685 23 дні тому +7

    Love your hair tied back 💜💙💜

  • @ginomcdonald551
    @ginomcdonald551 23 дні тому +5

    I love G’s snarky videos!!

  • @Midnightcrimefiles
    @Midnightcrimefiles 23 дні тому +2

    He is a grown man, they treat him like a child. What the heck...

  • @pamelacox7715
    @pamelacox7715 23 дні тому +1

    Wow. Talk about problem parents! They don’t see how HE was to blame for abusing for 5 years! and MURDERING that child. He makes me so sick. And now his parents do to.

  • @misswales9229
    @misswales9229 23 дні тому +13

    I've just got as far as the Warhammer miniatures ... oh my God - he was such a man child!! Unbelievable.
    Sounds like a big kid!!!

    • @Cincy_John
      @Cincy_John 23 дні тому +1

      @@misswales9229 kids don't play Warhammer because that stuff is expensive. Most people that play Warhammer, X-Wing or other miniature games like that are 30-50 year olds. Its called a hobby, everybody has them.

    • @Phoenix8Rising
      @Phoenix8Rising 23 дні тому +2

      He wants to appear child like..it gives him cover..

    • @misswales9229
      @misswales9229 23 дні тому

      @@Cincy_John in my family, all the older teen boys had warhammer etc. as their main hobby. They also played the games in the shops etc. all their friends had it, too. We are not rich, but they saved up / X-mas presents etc. It was really popular amongst the kids in my area around 10-15 years ago.
      I do understand what you are saying though. In general, it is expensive and not for all youngsters!

    • @aSoldiersGirlieGirl
      @aSoldiersGirlieGirl 23 дні тому +1

      The Tomagachi’s are what gets me! Probably another way to prey on young girls…..IF kids these days are even into them….but we had them when I was younger! I’m 41! I totally understand hobbies. Collecting things. But there is something about him that is definitely “man-child” like in the most unappealing and unattractive way. He’s like a whiny baby. Instead of being a grown up he was mooching off of his parents and on again/off again, weird girlfriend and shopping for toys all day and making crafts. Maddie herself even said that he sits in their house all day and eats all of their food. Kids are definitely more observant than a lot of adults think but it is pretty bad for a teen to pick up on his laziness. He is worthless. There has got to be something Jen sees in him or so much more to this whole dysfunctional relationship. I could not put up with that. Everything else aside about him, the lack of ambition alone is gross.

  • @JulesRN87
    @JulesRN87 23 дні тому +3

    My mom continues to support and send money to my dad who was convicted of continued (3 years) SA of my daughter (his granddaughter). At the beginning of that hell, she was wanting to bail him out. She burned incriminating journals and deleted emails, texts, etc off my dad’s devices (post sentencing). She used to talk about how bad he was getting treated. Long story short, I cut her out of my life.

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 23 дні тому

      Sick parents of monsters don’t surprise me! Monsters come from dysfunctional parents anyway 💯%

  • @jacquelinejacobson6789
    @jacquelinejacobson6789 23 дні тому +26

    What's a shame is that Maddie has a biological father sending child support for her; yet lives 1000 miles away. Had he only known. :(

    • @lisajeter9511
      @lisajeter9511 23 дні тому +10

      I’m sorry I can’t find it in my heart to give him any credit. He was cheating on his GF when Madeline was conceived. And even after she was born he still chose to married the Gf and not live and be a part of his daughter’s life. He had a choice to live near Madeline or away from her. He chose the Later! I believe I read she only went to visit her Dad ONCE in 13 years so how close could he be with her? I just can’t give him any Kudos, he failed his daughter in the Womb!

    • @sweetsongstress7398
      @sweetsongstress7398 23 дні тому +2

      Known what? No one forced him to live 1000 miles away …

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому

      ​@@lisajeter9511He got to visit with his daughter just not as often because of the distance. He did keep in touch with her almost daily by phone though...

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому +2

      ​@@sweetsongstress7398known how incapable Jen was in making good choices about having strange men around her young disabled daughter!! Sheesh!!

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 23 дні тому

      ​@@sweetsongstress7398 Maybe his job was the reason for living so far away. What does that matter?
      You sound like you're a family member or close friend of the Stern family since you chose to blame Everything on Maddie's parents... Are you Stephen's Other??

  • @leslieroth8447
    @leslieroth8447 23 дні тому +5

    Stephen is so sorry about the hassle and dad will instruct mom. Just a few thoughts. 1. He and dad don't seem to think mom is capable of much ie...PLEASE mansplain it to us silly, little girls. 2. Stephan having a hobby to keep his hands busy has been a big worry of mine. OH.....Stephan keeping his hands busy is why he's facing DP. 3. How does his deep consideration of the value of his toys compare to the value of Maddies worth?. 4. The situation of Ted Bundys mom and the pie. No matter how many times i hear of that, my heart aches for her. She didnt excuse Ted. His crimes literally broke a piece of her. 😢 I ask this with no sarcasm or being gross....i really wonder....does Stephan feel the same terror and dread when his head hits the pillow, the way Maddie's must have. I have 2 adult sons and 2 tiny grandsons. I wish i was confident that i would love them regardless. One thing LieTecia and Stephan have in common is appearently they are being starved. We saw at Dr. Tecias trial that she was absolutely not starving. Sounds like Mommy and Daddy take care of Stevie ❤. Gross. Regardless, as i said....2 sons and 2 tiny grandsons. I hope i would have the grace to love unconditionally. It would be hard. I do know what i would hope to do, through the victim advocate, whatever i could to help the victim heal. I would NOT coddle the abuser. Son, brother, sister, father etc. It a choice. I suppose i COULD coddle. I WONT! 🐻