Chrysler- No Brake Shift Interlock - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- For those who would like to go-beyond Chrysler public relations rhetoric, and learn the truth about that company's historical thru current approach to safety, I recommend that you download/read the letter I wrote to Attorney General Janet Reno in October 1999:
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You might wish to review the COLORED TAB and TAB 27 as a quick introduction. This readership will introduce you to the stark reality behind the PR machinations about "meets or exceeds all applicable federal safety standards."
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I grew up in these old Chrysler minivans. I still remember my old man telling me not to fucking! Touch that shift lever when he's gone or else your gonna take a shit beating!
Classy
Its totally their fault. If they added the interlock in the first place then the vans wouldnt move. Kids are curious and wont always know what their doing and sense their so short most kids cant reach the brake and pull the lever too. This could have prevented alot of deaths if they added this safety feature in the first place.
Not even that but it also acts as antitheft device
I only leave my keys in the ignition when the vehicle is attended by someone who also has a driver's license and is in position to gain control of the vehicle if that happens .
My 1999 Town & Country doesn't have the shift interlock and i always use the emergency brake no matter where im at incase it does come out of gear..Chrysler may deny the fact about the issue but i truly believe that you shouldn't leave your kids unattended in the van. why on gods earth would you let your kid in the van to play a cd knowing 9 times out of 10 she might end up touching something in the van that she shouldn't.
My mother had a 1994 Chrysler Concorde without the shift interlock. I was born in ‘95 and was never left alone in the car until I was like 13. She kept the car many years until 2016
I told my mom about this since she used to have 1997 Dodge Caravan that was until 2007 when we got a Honda Odyssey. She was honestly kind of surprised by the dangers of it. I even showed her how the 1996 Dodge Caravan did POOR in the IIHS Crash Tests and the occupant compartment collapsed trapping the dummy. She was said “this was probably why they switched to the Honda Odyssey because it did good in the crash tests and were known to be safe cars. My moms Dodge Caravan also had a lot of front end issues with it and my parents had to put s couple grand into fixing the suspension and radiators as well as other front end problems. That’s also why they switched to Honda and has had a Honda car ever since. She had her 2008 Honda Odyssey since 2007 until 2014 when she traded it in for a 2015 Honda Odyssey. She then traded that in 2018 for a 2019 Honda CRV and drove that until 2021 when she got a 2021 Honda Pilot.
My aunt also had a 2008 Honda Odyssey which replaced her 2002 Ford Explorer. Unfortunately hers was totaled when she tried to turn left and a 2003 Chevy Caviler hit her head on, because she misjudged how far she drifted and accidentally drifted into the oncoming traffic. I remember the Cavalier did POOR in the IIHS crash tests too and the dummy was trapped and occupant compartment collapsed. The guy in the Cavalier was also trapped in his car and suffered a broken femur, broken leg, and broken arm. Firefighters had to cut the roof of the car off to get at him and paramedics airlifted him. Meanwhile my aunt was able to walk away from her Honda Odyssey and only suffered from soreness mostly because her car turned left very violently at 90°. However knowing that if that was my mom who got into that crash with her Dodge Caravan haunts me because she definitely would’ve been severely injured.
Ok, NINE BUCKS A VEHICLE FOR SAFETY?!?! WHAT A BUNCH OF FREAKIN' CHEAPSKATES! NINE BUCKS TO SAVE LIVES. IT'S WORTH IT.
As cheap as military recruters. You do your ASVAB and then expect them to buy you lunch.
Remember the ignition.switch thing that was like 15 cent per vehicle it saved them switching from the old one that worked to the detective ones that killed all them ppl they'll put you at danger for less then a quarter
And they knew it was a issue a year before any cars hit the road and just didn't want to switch back cuz they would of had to throw out of switches
If I were in a leadership position at Chrysler, I wouldn’t say that after just having to recall thousands of Jeep Cherokees and Grand Cherokees to retrofit them with brake-shift interlock just because of a design-related safety defect.
@@rileysmith9843they’re too old to bother with now
in my plymouth voyager the gear shift does not move in the accessories postion the only things that will work are the power windows front and back, radio, windshild-wipers, and washer-fluid if you want me to make a video with the deatals and more that i can come up with please let me know
It does when the key is in the on position
It's scary because a lot of vehicles actually have a disengage device in the ignition for the Brake Interlock Device. I have a 2003 Grand Cherokee and a 2001 Malibu in which both you can flip the key to the first notch before the ON position and it allows you to pull it into gear without hitting the brakes. Chevrolet and Chrysler did this purposely as a mechanism for easy towing so you can easily put it in Neutral. Convenient in a sense but moreso scary for kids.
I have seen a 1994 honda civic with no break shift interlock in North Carolina.
Was it a manual?
I think it’s more of an issue with minivans because they tend to be “family cars” where one or multiple young children will be present. Where as a Honda Civic is less likely to be a family vehicle PLUS in minivans of that era, you could walk without much obstruction from the backseat to the driver and/or passenger seats. That’s how the boy was probably able to leave his seat and head out after his mom, consequently grabbing the gear shift. In a Honda Civic, it’s difficult if not impossible for passengers in the rear to exit into the front of the vehicle. Not to say it COULDNT happen, or that even kids couldn’t reach over and grab the gearshift on the floor but with the center console, it’s highly unlikely. With the minivan you have a door on ONE side, the passenger side, and open floor plan making it easy for passengers to leave the rear and enter the front of the vehicle, it’s more likely a kid would follow a parent out the drivers side door being the easiest, shortest route. In a Honda civic, it would be easier for a kid to just unbuckle the seatbelt and exit via the rear doors. It’s a totally different situation than a minivan. When I was a kid, my grandfather had a 15 passenger van for the longest time. And there was a clear walkway from the the rear area to the driver’s side and passenger side areas. Normally on trips we’d set a big cooler which still wouldn’t stop us from stepping over it to get out. The rear area had one sliding door on the passenger side and two swing doors in the back cargo area. At one point the sliding door became damaged and it took a lot of force to slide it closed and make sure it was latched properly. Sometimes to save time, if it was just me and my grandparents, I would just get in via the front passenger side door and head to the back passenger area. I’ve even walked up and exited via the driver side vehicle though I was old enough to know not the touch the gear shift. But if I recall, we had a ford econoline van and it did have Break Shift Interlock so it wasn’t an issue but I still knew not to mess with the gear shifter unless instructed to do so.
Plus that gear shift feels like it's in butter, so you can literally shift with one finger
I guess they considered it a luxury not to have to press the break to change gears.
I walked past one of these at target in the parking lot not gonna lie i was nervous walking by it to get in to target
If it was there parked and turned off with no one in it it's very unlikely it was gonna just start rolling.
@@dabnisbrickey6527 no i know its kinda rare to see these in NY i was shocked people still have them
@123mrkevind
I wish more people would I just took my moms car out and set the break the damn thing was rusted shut she had not used in all 11 years she had the car. And no of service people had seen nor the state inspector. Thank god it was not a dodge.
I have no problem with the interlock in my 2011 Honda Accord. I feel safe with it.
May 17, 2013
My 2007 Lexus ES has brake shift interlock. I feel safe knowing that it won’t be going into gear without my intervention.
My 11 accord I have no issue with but I still set my parking break wherever I am. However my stanza (88 wagon) you can change gear without the brake but there is a button to push in before
@Alex148710 The problem was that the minivans could still be put into drive even WITHOUT the key in the ignition.
They have done this with the minivan lift gate latches too good old mopar crap 😊
Monsters ceos and executives wanted to have bigger bonuses
Does Amy Dawson and everyone else mentioned with this car now have a new car
Those vans could still be out there somewhere and this could still happen. Let's say there is a lower income family out there with a 1997 Plymouth voyager and they have a 3 year old. Somebody could still get killed because of this even though the van is old
@@Krzrrazrrokr What you said is very rare. If a women with a beater car ever gets pregnant. Then they get a new car.
@@rubyovalle4841so by your logic every woman just automatically comes into enough money as soon as she becomes pregnant and buys a new car? I don’t think that’s how the world works buddy.
its common sense,, set ur parking brake and dont even leave kids in the car even if the keys are in the ignition
How can a responsible adult driver not be smart enough to apply the emergency brake when parked on even the slightest incline? That is a safety feature of long ago!!! No matter what or how many additional safety features are added will not supplement the lack of intelligence of an owner operator of any given vehicle!! Unless the emergency brake is vacuum released automatically there is no justification therein.
@Alex148710 But the people didn't know about the problem.
Chrysler didn't even have a Park position on its cars until after 1964. Shift locks didn't become law until 2005. If you learned to drive a manual transmission, you knew about the the Parking Brake. Jill Claybrooke is the Auto Nanny or Airbag Nazi. She was behind the push to the air bags after telling people for years all you needed was safety belts. Using the Parking Brake would have stopped everyone of the accidents or incidents.
My Lexus ES has a brake shift interlock. I tested it and the gear shift would not go out of park without my foot on the brake.
Exactly what I've said,emergency brake not applied, lack of responsibility on drivers part!!!
you are our hero paul sheridan shut up chrysler
Not investing $9 in a bit to prevent accidents? That cheapness is like deciding to buy condoms after having sexy time. Is it just me or are Chrysler just committed to passing off piles of rubbish as a family of fine cars?
I’ve read UA-cam comments from people claiming to be Chrysler mechanics who themselves don’t recommend their own vehicles. My mother owned a Plymouth Acclaim for about a year and a half and it was equally rubbish. Broke down frequently. 🚗
Hey more.
All cars can kill.
The problem is the nut behind wheel.
You don't leave kids in a car alone.
You don't leave the keys in the car.
You don't leave a vehicle without putting on the emergency brake. If you want to use a vehicle, any vehicle you need to take a class in common sense. Insurance covers vehicles even the vehicle s of stupid people.
Remember they will put your life at risk for pennies
no wonder chrysler went into toilet - safety issues, tranmission issues -- etc etc -
Before I ever buy a Chrysler product, I'll buy a year's worth of bus passes. These cars are garbage and have been for years.
I have faith in Chrysler anymore. They suck. It is all GM, Ford, and Toyota for me.
ford and gm are just as guilty of defects