21. Dateline 1995, 1996, 1997 Minivan IIHS Crash Test.flv

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  • Опубліковано 31 бер 2012
  • Dateline NBC: Crash Test
    minivan, minivans, large MPVs, large multi-purpose vehicles, large MPV, large multi-purpose vehicle, people mover, people movers
    Ford Windstar, Mazda MPV, ɛ̃fini MPV, Dodge Caravan, Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Town & Country, Chrysler T&C, Chrysler Voyager, Chrysler Grand Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Plymouth Grand Voyager, Chrysler Voyager, Chrysler Grand Voyager, Chrysler Caravan, Chrysler Grand Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Honda Shuttle, Isuzu Oasis, Nissan Quest, Mercury Villager, Chevrolet Astro, GMC Safari, Ford Aerostar, Toyota Previa, Toyota Estima, Toyota Tarago, Toyota Canarado, Pontiac Trans Sport, Oldsmobile Silhouette, Chevrolet Venture, Chevrolet Trans Sport, Pontiac Montana, Opel Sintra, Vauxhall Sintra
    From Mrchevy baja (unlisted channel) (used to be bajabusta)
    Website: testdrivejunkie.com/category/crash-tests
    Video from • Dateline 1997 Minivan ...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 744

  • @scpenguinbuddies
    @scpenguinbuddies 8 років тому +537

    It's funny to see how much car companies bashed iihs in the 90's and now today rely on their reviews for better sales

    • @goober239
      @goober239 7 років тому +33

      ...come to think of it, the number one killer in the 90s was *[GASP]* car accidents.

    • @aaronries9307
      @aaronries9307 7 років тому +4

      THE PLOT THICKENS

    • @itswings1543
      @itswings1543 7 років тому +3

      sam_cesario7 its funny to say they havent done much to change any of this there are only a few that arnt that bad now

    • @bandguymichael
      @bandguymichael 7 років тому +3

      I wonder if car companies pulled the same shenanigans for the Small Overlap Test

    • @roostersideburns3440
      @roostersideburns3440 7 років тому +5

      nope. they are redesigning to meet the test

  • @tmanepic
    @tmanepic 6 років тому +341

    What "tests" did GM carry out for their vehicles, a 5MPH crash into a pile of feathers?

  • @glanzera
    @glanzera 4 роки тому +149

    The worst part isn't the fact that the Venture did so poorly... it's that GM sold it for 9 years without making a single change to improve it's safety.

    • @keirangreen7004
      @keirangreen7004 2 роки тому

      Yikes

    • @aidenthecomputernerd
      @aidenthecomputernerd Рік тому +1

      They did some year to year changes such as the steering wheel design

    • @314jeepsnmopars3
      @314jeepsnmopars3 Рік тому +18

      @@aidenthecomputernerd I'm sure that would stop the structure from collapsing around you like that...

    • @plopping-wetlyacademyofmot9639
      @plopping-wetlyacademyofmot9639 Рік тому

      GM and Ford sued the federal government when they started requiring seatbelts and airbags too. They don't give 2 shits about you. Just sell units and make money 💰

    • @amoryerenhouse5535
      @amoryerenhouse5535 Рік тому

      GM is a shitty company that doesn't give a damn about the people that are keeping afloat

  • @nighthawk6895
    @nighthawk6895 3 роки тому +55

    6:45 "This is the worst we've seen, I think."
    Pontiac Trans Sport: "Hold my beer."

  • @markk3652
    @markk3652 8 років тому +292

    I wonder.... if you crash a Pontiac into an astro, could you taste each others steering wheel??

    • @willtaboo7386
      @willtaboo7386 7 років тому +26

      We simply don't talk about tasting each others steering wheels.

    • @Dycgcch
      @Dycgcch 6 років тому +2

      Mark K funny funny 😂

    • @littlemonkeyvip
      @littlemonkeyvip 6 років тому +2

      Mark K I

    • @TellurideS13
      @TellurideS13 6 років тому

      DUMB

    • @kakyeet2568
      @kakyeet2568 5 років тому +2

      But the Pontiac Transport look that bad

  • @Ouiquende
    @Ouiquende 11 років тому +39

    Love the way GM claims the Transport performed very well but they aren't gonna back up the claim with any kind of picture or some kind of footage.

    • @b.t.356
      @b.t.356 Рік тому

      Someone said that they theorize that GM crash tested into a pile of feathers and I gotta agree

  • @loganknupp9034
    @loganknupp9034 7 років тому +231

    And all this damage is at 40 MPH. Just think if it was at 60, 70, or even 80 MPH.

    • @mothra__13
      @mothra__13 7 років тому +24

      Lexzar Boom and the car makers say 40 mph is too high for testing!

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin 7 років тому +34

      Lexzar Boom I think moderate overlap and small overlap tests should be done at 55 mph, because that's the maximum speed of undivided highways.

    • @rustbeltbluesgarage2284
      @rustbeltbluesgarage2284 7 років тому +7

      sai173 did you see fifth gear crash test on the Ford focus going 120 miles an hour into a wall

    • @iiplaya
      @iiplaya 7 років тому

      sai173 There’s cars on the road crashing at 185,200,110 and they walked away with none to minor injuries

    • @plexiglass-kz2si
      @plexiglass-kz2si 7 років тому

      Logan Knupp I was going to say, **the exact same thing** ! 😂😂

  • @ZVMoYxMAjTEwAMEb
    @ZVMoYxMAjTEwAMEb 9 років тому +170

    I love how back then, auto makers were like "yeah, your test is crap because the government doesn't do it. You go too fast and do an unconventional test. BUY OUR CARS because fuck you!"
    Whereas today, the IIHS is embraced by both the government and auto makers. Well done lads!

    • @101Volts
      @101Volts 6 років тому +4

      Look at the 1956 Ford "Tedy" ads, supposedly people thought it was stupid to have a safe car back then so they avoided the Fords. What, did they think "Oh no, mustn't think about crashing or I'll crash"?
      img1.etsystatic.com/063/1/11038289/il_570xN.773028101_okc6.jpg

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 6 років тому +4

      actually Ford outsold Chevy in 1957.
      But the irony is that the 57 Chevys (mainly the Bel Air) are considered classics and the 57 Fords are just considered old jalopies.

  • @TheGoodChap
    @TheGoodChap 9 років тому +148

    oh my god nostalgia flashbacks... When I was a kid my mom recorded this on our vhs player for me to watch again and again. I was fascinated by car crashes, demolition, other male kid stuff. It's funny we used to watch it so much this guy was like a movie star to me I was a huge fan of Brian O'Neill. I used to lie down in with a pillow on top of my head and have my parents determine that "there's just no room down here. I believe the foot is completely separated from the leg." and "It's not even budging!" Looking back I guess I was a strange kid but my parents thought it was funny.

    • @latvianboy9388
      @latvianboy9388 5 років тому +4

      Great 2019

    • @titan9259
      @titan9259 4 роки тому +13

      I'm also interested in car crash tests, this is why i have BeamNG.drive.

    • @chasechildress2720
      @chasechildress2720 3 роки тому +1

      @@titan9259 im playin beam right now.

    • @tsaivanrod1114
      @tsaivanrod1114 2 роки тому

      @@titan9259 hi

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 2 роки тому +5

      The advent of passenger airbags becoming commonplace in new cars during the mid-1990s, made segments like this conflicting as a masochistic interest for me as a young child.
      I grew past that fear and grew up to crash test them as an engineer professionally, some 20 years later.
      Those early days of kids being decapitated, some smaller or even bigger than me, was mentally scarring as a kid car enthusiast in the 1990s to early 2000s.
      The grainy, sepia or often B&W slow motion 90s reenactments, of these violently exploding billowy pillows into the heads of microsized dummies put the fear of God into me.
      Hearing the child airbag death reports mounting in 1996-97, on nightly news.
      Back then, I couldn't comfortably enjoy sitting in some cars, with the fear inadvertent deployments or potential that an accident could kill me, below the height 5'3 and under 120 lbs.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 10 років тому +35

    kylerawks10 These tests were released on November 19, 1996. I am actually watching this to commemorate the 17th anniversary of their release.
    November 18, 2013 9:07 pm

    • @RivieraByBuick
      @RivieraByBuick 2 роки тому +1

      I read this almost 10 years later. January 7th 2022 at 16.46

  • @theTVchannel1000
    @theTVchannel1000 9 років тому +113

    holy crap, my family had a Toyota pevia for 22 years!
    we never crashed it but it lasted up to 400,000 miles

    • @JacobGamezChannel
      @JacobGamezChannel 9 років тому +9

      Magic Mike But you can buy a toyota sienna! Ihss said it is the best minivan for saftey

    • @krus180
      @krus180 9 років тому +3

      steven play roblox i find the mercedes r class the best minivan

    • @JacobGamezChannel
      @JacobGamezChannel 9 років тому

      Umm Minivan yea umm mercedes dont make minivans but they make vans

    • @krus180
      @krus180 9 років тому +3

      So what is a mercedes b class then?

    • @krus180
      @krus180 9 років тому +4

      Btw look up mercedes R class its a sport minivan its for up to 7 people

  • @richardthefox3412
    @richardthefox3412 3 роки тому +74

    I’m Surprised that the Pontiac Trans Port doesn't have a legendary meme status for how unsafe it is, because it totally deserves it.

    • @MenschGusti
      @MenschGusti Рік тому +5

      It has. I’m in a discord server where everybody finds that funny

    • @davidpark761
      @davidpark761 Рік тому +1

      there are cars from the 70s that would literally explode from being rear ended

    • @deactivateddddd
      @deactivateddddd Рік тому

      My friend group calls them deathtrap mobiles lol

    • @SCREAMILLUSION
      @SCREAMILLUSION Рік тому +1

      @@davidpark761 Uh one wasn't it? The Ford Pinto.

    • @MatureHorror509
      @MatureHorror509 Рік тому

      ​@@SCREAMILLUSION yes

  • @maximilianoluera6679
    @maximilianoluera6679 5 років тому +24

    my favorite part is when they’re talking about the astro and the reporter says “what if this had been a woman, shorter, and lighter?” then immediately cuts to a frame that shows that she is taller than o’neil

    • @user-bc4mr1iq4v
      @user-bc4mr1iq4v Рік тому +1

      Lmao!! You're right!! That's so funny! (5:09)

  • @101Volts
    @101Volts 6 років тому +18

    I'm starting to have a bigger appreciation for the 1977-1989 Chevy Caprice; Father hit a telephone pole in an 84 model in a 45 MPH zone (someone decided to pass cars on a 2 lane road and not yield to him or so it seems, I wasn't there.) He went home from the hospital on the same day and although his knees went through the plastic dashboard and he had seat belt rash and still has issues with his arm, he's alive and can still _walk._ There wasn't any movement of the steering wheel, the pole went in the middle just where the radiator and engine block were.

  • @johnpaulson3398
    @johnpaulson3398 7 років тому +134

    We don't talk about gm vans

    • @loganknupp9034
      @loganknupp9034 7 років тому +2

      LOL! I'm dead,

    • @aaronries9307
      @aaronries9307 7 років тому +10

      I don't talk about GM at all.

    • @proto718
      @proto718 7 років тому +6

      Johnny Paulson I owned 2 Astros and 1 safari. Thank God no accidents. I was kinda shocked of the results.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 7 років тому +5

      Indeed. Unreliable, underpowered, terrible fuel economy, and unsafe.

    • @thegameshowgeek
      @thegameshowgeek 6 років тому

      I’ll keep my Hyundai over those piles of rubbish

  • @sonicfan4242
    @sonicfan4242 10 років тому +46

    to think that i actually rode in a pontiac trans sport everyday at on point in my childhood... scary shit

    • @jtb1990419
      @jtb1990419 10 років тому +4

      Me too. A blue '99 Montana. One of the biggest pieces of you know what we ever had. Leaked oil and coolant and the interior started falling apart at 50,000 miles. Glad we got rid of it.

    • @bjthedjdutchdude1992
      @bjthedjdutchdude1992 6 років тому +2

      We had a 1st gen Pontiac Trans Sport. I loved how the interior was shaped from looking back to the front.

    • @hoofaa17
      @hoofaa17 6 років тому +2

      Same my mom drove a '97 Chevy Venture for 15 years with 130k miles. A lot of issues with that van and we sold it in 2011. So glad we got rid of it!

  • @Major_Mason
    @Major_Mason 9 років тому +51

    This guy who represents the manufacturing of cars is full of shit. He is clearly covering for the POOR, subpar car saftey designs. Thank you IIHS for these videos.

    • @Major_Mason
      @Major_Mason 7 років тому +6

      How unprofessional and crude can you get kid? As far as I am concerned the man in that video knows no shame if you even know what that means.

    • @sai-tc7wv
      @sai-tc7wv 3 роки тому

      i know this is 3 years old but im gonna have to side with uno here

  • @raykuipers688
    @raykuipers688 7 років тому +48

    typical GM. denying there is a problem with their vehicles

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 5 років тому +1

      Ray Kuipers my mom is a ford fan so ya

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 3 роки тому +12

    General Motors: our minivans are super safe!
    The IIHS and the mass ignition switch recall: Sure Jan.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 4 роки тому +17

    Here's a millisecond-by-millisecond comparison between the 2005 Honda Odyssey and the Trans Sport (which, keep in mind, was still sold under the same design as late as 2005 as the Chevy Venture). Two vans, sold new, in the same model year. The '05 Chevy Venture's airbags are a little different in design, but in this crash mode wouldn't make a lick of difference. Besides, the test report I have is of this Trans Sport.
    0 ms: The vans hit the offset barriers.
    27 ms: The Trans Sport's airbag doors rip open, and the front airbags begin to inflate.
    32 ms: The Odyssey's driver seat belt pretensioner activates, tightening the seat belt across the driver's chest.
    36 ms: The Trans Sport's driver airbag slams into the driver's face, probably breaking the nose if it were a real person. This would be the least of his problems.
    48 ms: The Odyssey's steering wheel hub rips open, and the driver airbag begins to inflate. The passenger airbag will not inflate because not enough weight is on the seat.
    52 ms: The Trans Sport's interior begins to structurally collapse. The driver's seat begins to move.
    62 ms: The Odyssey's driver airbag reaches its maximum rearward extent. It never touches the driver, who is at no risk of airbag injury. At the same time, the Trans Sport driver starts moving into the driver airbag.
    70 ms: The Trans Sport driver's legs are being smashed as the footwell intrudes. The left foot is being rapidly rotated upward. The steering wheel is rapidly moving upward.
    76 ms: The Odyssey's driver airbag assumes its fully inflated shape and begins to deflate.
    80 ms: The Trans Sport driver's foot snaps off from the tibia.
    84 ms: The Odyssey driver's head finally meets the inflated driver airbag.
    97 ms: The Trans Sport's steering wheel has been driven through the airbag, and the head gets shoryukened back, straining the neck.
    100 ms: The Odyssey's steering wheel moves back only slightly - less than two inches. This has no effect on the driver's injury measures.
    105 ms: The Trans Sport's headrest hits the driver's head and begins to push down, further straining the neck.
    114 ms: The Odyssey's driver loses his grip on the steering wheel.
    120 ms: The Trans Sport driver's neck gets seriously injured.
    130 ms: The Odyssey's driver reaches the forward-most point of his movement and begins moving back toward the seat. The body and steering wheel never got to meet. At the same time, the Trans Sport driver has assumed his final position.
    230 ms: As the Odyssey driver moves rearward and to the left, the side airbags deploy, preventing the head and chest from hitting anything hard.
    Fortunately, it was only a dummy in the Trans Sport's driver's seat. In real life, if these two vehicles hit head on, the Trans Sport's driver would probably end up unconscious or in severe pain, with life threatening injuries. The Odyssey's driver would come to in a largely intact interior, with the deflated pink airbag hanging out of the ripped open steering wheel hub being the first thing he saw, and the strong smell of burning rubber from the airbag propellant. His injuries would probably consist of a few cuts and bruises. It would be whoever was in the Odyssey who would call for help and/or try to assist the driver of the Trans Sport. All I can say is, whoever gets hit head on in one of these death-trap minivans, I hope you survive.
    March 17, 2020 6:26 am

    • @rileysmith9843
      @rileysmith9843 4 роки тому +2

      There would be a similar result in the Astro, Aerostar, and Previa, where the Odyssey driver would have to try to assist the driver in any of those three vehicles.

    • @0w3nn
      @0w3nn 7 місяців тому

      Well duh, the trans port is the worst performer the institute has ever seen

  • @_multiverse_
    @_multiverse_ 6 років тому +17

    The Windstar I was hauled around as a kid may have had a shitty unreliable power train but at least it was safe.

  • @mst3kanita
    @mst3kanita 9 років тому +27

    These were my favorite things to watch on mbnbc during the weekends before I had the internet.

  • @chasechildress2720
    @chasechildress2720 3 роки тому +13

    Wonder if he traded the previa in for a windstar.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 4 роки тому +21

    It's insane to think of how unsafe that GM minivan design is, how behind the times it is. Keep in mind that this was a brand new design, sold all the way until 2005! If it was this bad - far worse than even the second-worst performer - at launch, just imagine how bad it was by 2005!
    The Toyota Previa - a van with a very short front end and an old design at this time - did much better than the GM minivan. So did the Mazda MPV, which had a structural design dating back to 1989! IIHS rates on a "demerit" system. 0-3 is good, 4-9 acceptable, 10-15 marginal, 16 or more poor. The Windstar came away perfectly, no demerits. The Chrysler minivans got 11 demerits. Every other van, 11-16 demerits. The Aerostar, 18 demerits. The Previa, 26 demerits (it was second worst). The GM minivans got a whopping *40* demerits! Most poor-performing vehicles were getting less than 25! This death trap, a brand new design, got 40 demerits while most vans with designs 5-10 years older were getting less than half that!
    And you have to keep in mind that this van was THE LAST of these designs in production! All the others were replaced with safer versions years before the GM minivans were!
    By 2005, this van was a pathetic joke. Who in their right mind bought a brand new 2005 Chevy Venture? None of the other '05 minivans got even 10 demerits. Most were getting good ratings, in fact the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey got no demerits at all. The Odyssey's performance was so good that that same body style of van got a Top Safety Pick in 2008 and 2009! I would love to see a van-to-van, 40 mph offset of an '05 Odyssey vs. an '05 Chevy Venture.
    March 17, 2020 5:39 am

    • @rileysmith9843
      @rileysmith9843 4 роки тому +1

      The 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan/Chrysler Town & Country failed because the gas tank leaked. The 2002-07 models went to an acceptable because of a design change.

    • @user-bc4mr1iq4v
      @user-bc4mr1iq4v Рік тому +2

      Even though the Ford Areostar did poorly, It's design dated back to 1986, With the only design change being front airbags in 1992.Yet This brand-new Transport 11 years later did 10 times worse

    • @whattheheck1000
      @whattheheck1000 Рік тому

      @@user-bc4mr1iq4v Exactly. The structural design of the Aerostar was better than a van 11 years newer, and car safety in general progressed a lot between the 1986 and 1997 model years. So basically, GM sold a minivan that had a structural design that was deficient by 1986 standards… in 2005, when people born in 1986 could drive!
      It never ceases to amaze me how bad that design was. By the time the Venture went out of production in June 2005, I was 12 and my family had a 2001 Toyota Highlander as our family hauler, which we bought used for less than the price of a new Venture. It would have shredded a Venture in a crash.
      April 3, 2023 11:03 am

  • @mikewillis9108
    @mikewillis9108 6 років тому +11

    I'm so glad my parents had volvos when we were growing up, and didn't buy into the minivan craze in the 90s and 00s. The Volvo isn't as easy to get in and out of with kids or as big as a minivan, but volvo, Saab, and Mercedes were the only ones that really cared about safety back then. these companies spared no expense when building safe cars, while everyone else was trying to cut costs even at the expense of safety, but trying to meet the bare minimum standards.

  • @Kitten2022
    @Kitten2022 Рік тому +7

    All minivan in america crash test. (40 mph)
    2:38 Ford Winstar
    3:27 Dodge Grand caravan
    4:27 Chevrolet Astro/Gmc Safari
    5:29 Ford Aerostar
    6:35 Toyota Previa
    7:47 Pontiac Transport (Brand new design from general motor)

  • @Max-nu1bd
    @Max-nu1bd 6 років тому +6

    Looking at these crash tests has made me appreciate newer cars a bit more, especially me involved in a crash with crumple zones, seatbelt and airbags. I just wish the older vehicles from the 80's and 90's had the same safety measures

  • @GiordanDiodato
    @GiordanDiodato 7 років тому +50

    20 years later...
    GM and Ford are out of the minivan business (good riddance since their minivans were kinda crap... except for the Freestar and Monterey, maybe)
    Kia's entered the fray
    Hyundai had a Minivan, but was discontinued due to slow sales
    Chrysler has their new minivan out right now
    Toyota has the Sienna
    Honda has the amazing Odyssey
    Nissan's Quest is one of the worst performers

    • @pentium4guy639
      @pentium4guy639 6 років тому +5

      I have a 90 Astro, never let me and my family down and reliable and outlasted my aunts 2013 honda odyssey. The 1st gen astros were built like tanks. But I still see them on the roads today, thats to show you how reliable they are.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 6 років тому

      +Sloth Demon
      but they're unreliable and get terrible mileage.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 6 років тому +2

      Well chrysler did invent the minivan essentially, with the caravan back in the 80s.
      I don't think they'll ever stop making them until popularity of that class dies completely

    • @captainredneck0683
      @captainredneck0683 6 років тому +2

      Except the Freestar couldn't keep transmissions in them. There was a massive recall regarding it.

    • @brianhobbins3612
      @brianhobbins3612 6 років тому +2

      Giordan Diodato the Aerostar is extremely deformable and slow and crumbles like my cookies

  • @plexiglass-kz2si
    @plexiglass-kz2si 7 років тому +32

    11:25, there's *never* a "Too fast" for a car crash

    • @RivieraByBuick
      @RivieraByBuick 2 роки тому +1

      No there is. For instance crash at 60 mph into a 100% overlap barrier is fatal disregarding the vehicle crumple zone performance. Human internals experience deadly force decelerating 60-0 in 0.1 seconds.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 3 роки тому +8

    This generation of GM minivans is so unsafe that it's become legendary.
    August 17, 2020 2:57 am

  • @2019Q7Quattro
    @2019Q7Quattro 4 дні тому

    Back when I was younger my mom owned a 1996 Windstar, and it was fully loaded and good lord was it nice, she drove that thing until it hit 363,000 miles! That shows that the first generation Windstar was reliable and safe! I bought it from her a few years ago and although I only use it to get groceries and drive to my mom’s house, it still runs like it’s new, I fixed the rust on the surface and repainted it to make it look new. I love that Windstar.

  • @JSGirl09able
    @JSGirl09able 3 роки тому +9

    When Dateline was so much more than true crime stories.

  • @jordysrevenge
    @jordysrevenge 9 років тому +52

    2:15 BeamNG in real life.

    • @harumafif4411
      @harumafif4411 6 років тому +6

      streetracer111 yes,you are right because there is no airbag

    • @JaZoN_XD
      @JaZoN_XD 6 років тому +1

      Real life in BeamNG

    • @artym5560
      @artym5560 3 роки тому

      2 legrans

  • @AnNguyen-cd3ny
    @AnNguyen-cd3ny 8 років тому +19

    At least it isn't the Brilliance BS6..... XD

    • @2002altima
      @2002altima 6 років тому +1

      AcE_HwMustang28 Ikr

  • @tristanha.9413
    @tristanha.9413 6 років тому +3

    Its good to hear that parents are safe and good drivers

  • @elivyondanimations
    @elivyondanimations 5 років тому +7

    Wtf did GM do when they tested the transport. Crash them to a stack of pillows in 1 mph!?!

  • @josesantana2982
    @josesantana2982 8 років тому +17

    And now in days the safest minivans are the Honda Odyssey & Kia's Sedona. Toyota hasn't gotten that title in awhile & they claim to be the "best".

    • @dominikw4219
      @dominikw4219 7 років тому

      Jose Santana nope, Toyota has made it like a million times

    • @josesantana2982
      @josesantana2982 7 років тому

      Not now it hasn't

    • @dominikw4219
      @dominikw4219 7 років тому

      Jose Santana ya it has, 2015 Toyota sienna has made it into safest minivans.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 6 років тому

      Kia's Sedona also did pretty well in it.

    • @4nciite
      @4nciite 5 років тому +1

      Toyota only has 2 top safety pick plus vehicles in 2019, Hyundai has 12

  • @Sinklaw
    @Sinklaw 10 років тому +3

    Great minivans provide balance of comfort, convenience, versatility, and road manners. However, they also need to be safe and reliable. Dateline did a good job with this helpful news piece.
    Not Legal Advice. For information only. Please consult with an attorney for legal advice.

  • @MAXIMUSGAMEPLAY563
    @MAXIMUSGAMEPLAY563 5 років тому +5

    12:35 Result Of Car
    Good Rating:
    Ford Windstar
    Marginal Rating:
    Mazda Mpv
    Dodge Grand Caravan
    Honda Odyssey
    Nissan quest
    Poor Rating:
    Chevrolet Astro
    Ford Aerostar
    Toyota Previa
    Pontiac Trans Sport
    Oldsmobile Silhouette
    Chevrolet Venture

  • @brianc5537
    @brianc5537 4 роки тому +6

    It’s 2020 and the Nissan Quest is still a death trap. While others have surpassed it in safety.

  • @InvestBetter.
    @InvestBetter. 4 роки тому +5

    4:37 I always wanted to know what a steering wheel tastes like.....
    8:33 Like a steering wheel necklace

  • @jag7371
    @jag7371 6 років тому +9

    Remember: the Toyota Previa is mid engine, RWD.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 5 років тому +2

      True. And the Chevy Astro/GMC Safari was introduced for the 1985 model year, in an era before widely known American offset crash tests.

    • @asfitube
      @asfitube 3 роки тому

      @@hakeemsd70m they started in 1993s so you are correct

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 3 роки тому

      @@asfitube I didn't know that, thank you for sharing that with me. Was always curious as to when they started the offset test.

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 2 роки тому

      @@asfitube Nope, late 1994/early 1995.

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 2 роки тому

      @@hakeemsd70m Ignore that, it was MY 1995, not 1993.

  • @robertetzenhouser
    @robertetzenhouser 4 роки тому +3

    They should buy a used Trans Sport and test it today, that would be really cool.

  • @WilliePeck
    @WilliePeck 10 років тому +25

    Umm excuse me 40 MPH to high speed of a crash test?!?!?!? That's how fast the cars in city's are usually FORCED to drive at BY LAW!!! What do they test them at 10 MPH?!?!?!

    • @fari1830
      @fari1830 9 років тому +3

      10 MPH is for bumper test

    • @Y10Q
      @Y10Q 9 років тому +3

      Willie Peck
      you have to be asleep to crash at 70mph on the highways, or suicidal. Generally 70mph-40mph takes a second or two if you are paying attention. Most cars will stop from 70 to 0 in 4 seconds. In the city you are doing 45-55 mph, and if you crash it's generally at 10-20mph unless you are suicidal or asleep.

    • @WilliePeck
      @WilliePeck 9 років тому +2

      Y10Q now it all makes sense but you forgot to add people tweeting on iPhones lol. I cringe every time I see that.

  • @titan9259
    @titan9259 4 роки тому +11

    Ford Windstar: Good
    Dodge Grand Caravan: Marginal
    Chevrolet Astro/GMC Safari: Poor
    Ford Aerostar: Poor
    Honda Odyssey/Isuzu Oasis: Marginal
    Pontiac Transport/Montana/Opel/Vauxhall Sintra/ Chevrolet Venture/Oldsmobile Silhouette: Poor
    Toyota Previa: Poor
    Mazda MPV: Marginal

  • @maximilianoluera6679
    @maximilianoluera6679 8 років тому +18

    My dad had an astro, glad he sold the piece of shit before I was born.

    • @mwr-dw2ff
      @mwr-dw2ff 7 років тому

      Maximiliano Luera lmao what does he drive now?

    • @maximilianoluera6679
      @maximilianoluera6679 7 років тому

      DogLover0124 2013 explorer

    • @TechnologySpotlight
      @TechnologySpotlight 7 років тому

      My friends dad has a Astro and his grandparents has a Safari.

    • @heroicsultan7311
      @heroicsultan7311 7 років тому

      Technology Spotlight My friend's family owns 3 Astros

    • @TechnologySpotlight
      @TechnologySpotlight 7 років тому

      Kind of glad my friends dad sold it and bought a Ford Fusion.

  • @randy109
    @randy109 7 років тому +15

    After watching over 100 Crash Tests and reading many reviews from different sources I came to a conclusion. The tiny "Smart Car" has a basic Roll Cage or hard shell to protect the occupants because they have no room for any significant 'crumple zones' to absorb G-forces. The safest cars/trucks/vans all have side curtain airbags. If you built a full sized car/truck/van with the Roll Cage like the Smart Cars AND made side curtain Airbags and Seatbelt Pretensioners mandatory it would save thousands of Lives per year. Of course the price of new vehicles would have to increase to pay for this level of Safety. It might be worth doing, only if the price is not too high. We know HOW to do it, but do we have the will to do it?

    • @Max-nu1bd
      @Max-nu1bd 6 років тому +1

      randy109 I agree, and have been thinking about a roll cage installation myself. Would feel 1000x better driving than I do now

    • @nolanpatrickmvp4005
      @nolanpatrickmvp4005 5 років тому

      It just costs too much right now, like tons more it's to bad your so right.

  • @LNERMallard
    @LNERMallard 10 років тому +24

    Windstar may have been the safest, but too bad it was unreliable as shit. I see tons more Caravans, Astros, and even Previas still on the road today from this era than I do Windstars.

    • @spiffcats
      @spiffcats 9 років тому +5

      Yah man, the good old astro never dies. Mines at 430.000 and still running good.

    • @LNERMallard
      @LNERMallard 9 років тому +6

      spiffcats Yep, toughest damn vans on the road.

    • @scottthewaterwarrior
      @scottthewaterwarrior 9 років тому +4

      LNER Mallard I don't know, I have a 98 Windstar and it has always been pretty reliable. It has had its far share of problems, but not anymore then the other cars we've owned. There are quite a few Windstars still on the road around me as well, only other old van I see that much is 1st generation Sienas. IDK, it might just be because I have a Windstar, I've got a SAAB convertible now too and suddenly those are everywhere too!

    • @spiffcats
      @spiffcats 9 років тому +2

      scottthewaterwarrior
      If you drive something you think about it, so you notice it. For example when i get a dodge shadow i started noticing them.

    • @The_Ballo
      @The_Ballo 8 років тому

      +LNER Mallard Or off the road 👹

  • @PorterTheFanCollector
    @PorterTheFanCollector Рік тому +1

    The 1984 Toyota Van would've done even worse than the Previa. I will still buy a Previa as long as I pay very precise attention on the road.

  • @Powerlinx88
    @Powerlinx88 2 роки тому

    why were there 2 nissan quests? one was red the other was green! was there a malfunction with the grren one or the dummy?

  • @jeepthing98
    @jeepthing98 7 років тому +3

    I bet GM wished the IIHS hadn't retested the Transport even though the first test was too fast. Then, instead of the dummy indicating serious injury, it would instead indicate....probable death. When George Parker opens in his mouth he must have been choking on his own bile saying nonsense like "less than 1% of accidents happen at 40mph or higher." "Safety is not the point."

  • @markbundy4869
    @markbundy4869 2 роки тому +1

    The driver of that Chevy Astro is eating that air bag right now

  • @axelyn6856
    @axelyn6856 3 роки тому

    It’s really cool how you know all cars relatives

  • @seankurth4371
    @seankurth4371 7 років тому +1

    It's of course obvious that all of these are horrendous deathtraps by modern standards. But coming from an era when automakers other than Volvo and Mercedes had only just started to care about serious safety equipment that worked for purposes other than producing appealing ad copy, I'm fairly impressed. As recently as surviving a crash had stopped being a luxury item at that point, it's impressive how far they'd come. Rewind 10 year further back and every vehicle in this segment crumples like a tin can the way Indian cars do today and severely injures everyone inside at highway speeds. Rewind 20 years back and designing cars for crash safety wasn't even really on the radar. Ditto compact cars and economy sedans, I wouldn't want to be within 20 feet of an 80s Chevy Cavalier whether it's running or not, and 70s cab forward vans frequently left moderate speed crashes without much of a passenger compartment in front of the driver's seat at all. Believe it or not, all of the cars in this test, as bad as they look, vastly exceed whatever owners at the time were upgrading from in that the only occupant likely to be killed is the driver.

  • @Infamousdee240
    @Infamousdee240 2 роки тому +1

    What about the dustbuster pontiac trans sport / lumina apv / silhouette?? They were still out around that time .. what was the crash test rating for those ?

    • @francoisd6942
      @francoisd6942 2 роки тому

      I dont think you watched the whole video

    • @Infamousdee240
      @Infamousdee240 2 роки тому

      @@francoisd6942 wym ? They’re the gen before this transport , even tho they were still making dustbusters in 97

  • @Skittles939
    @Skittles939 Рік тому

    What test did gm do a test of 2 mph bumper crash? Is that where the Iihs get the bumper test and what happened with the Sewell not separating is it because the put strength.

    • @TheMW2informer
      @TheMW2informer Рік тому

      You literally just copying the top comment LMFAO

  • @dynasty0019
    @dynasty0019 6 років тому +5

    Yay Ford Windstar rules! It was the travel/commuter/everyday car for my family for many years.

    • @axelyn6856
      @axelyn6856 3 роки тому

      Dateline said it got a good rating but it good ah acceptable

  • @ronnievedinvlogsakaronvedi6726
    @ronnievedinvlogsakaronvedi6726 7 років тому +1

    I wonder if like if they say chevy astro aka gmc safari does that mean it has the same damage

    • @Peach-ok9zl
      @Peach-ok9zl 6 років тому

      Ronnie Vedin vlogs aka ron vedin it just means it a slightly different design and under a different name but the same structure

  • @215alessio
    @215alessio 7 років тому +1

    ah the 90's the last decade when crash tests were spectacular

  • @Drj2021
    @Drj2021 Рік тому +3

    Never buy a car until you see one of these videos.

    • @xGLITCHGAMINGx
      @xGLITCHGAMINGx Рік тому

      1/4 star safety rating, no airbags, we still zoomin👌

  • @StevenDrumsYEEHAW
    @StevenDrumsYEEHAW 4 роки тому +1

    After the Trans Sport test, IIHS said that the Pontiac Trans Sport was the worst performer we have ever tested, with potentially fatal injuries for the driver. Brian O'Neill noted that this crash could have proven fatal for a human occupant. I would never drive that vehicle, EVER because of this!

  • @user-lj4zw1rv9i
    @user-lj4zw1rv9i 7 років тому +5

    Wow. What a shame Ford discontinued the Windstar. That was a great minivan

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 6 років тому +1

      Don't forget the freestar and Aerostar decontinued

  • @francoisd6942
    @francoisd6942 2 роки тому +3

    11:29 an ultra-hugh test at 40 miles per hour . This is tragically hilarious.

  • @rileysmith9843
    @rileysmith9843 4 роки тому +3

    3:33 Just 5 years later, the Grand Caravan would get a Poor rating due to the fuel tank leaking.

    • @titan9259
      @titan9259 3 роки тому

      But then it was retested and got an acceptable

  • @DerangedSloth555
    @DerangedSloth555 12 років тому +3

    You see, they make the passengers as the crumple zones.

  • @amoryerenhouse5535
    @amoryerenhouse5535 Рік тому +1

    Back when TV was still using analog, even though I was really little and dont really remember analog, something about seeing the analog just makes me feel nostalgic or deja vu, simpler times, back when the video wasnt crystal clear and women all sounded the same and men all sounded the same

  • @bbruce995
    @bbruce995 8 років тому +8

    what the car companies are saying is, we dont care what happens to you, if it costs us more to make them safer, than thats not in our budget

    • @101Volts
      @101Volts 6 років тому

      Glad we have a good relationship with the car companies, aren't we?

  • @amoryerenhouse5535
    @amoryerenhouse5535 Рік тому +1

    For the Previa - Thats what happens when you put the engine in the middle of the car and put barely anything in the front, just look at cabovers, even when the driver is higher, its still dangerous

  • @sirot5561
    @sirot5561 6 років тому +1

    Wow the Astro totally buckled. The Aerostar steering wheel snapping off is so dangerous and let’s not even mention the Transport. It speaks for itself

    • @CaydenLudlow
      @CaydenLudlow 6 років тому

      I thought my screen had a bug on it lol

  • @TheChief005
    @TheChief005 5 років тому

    Good that GM redesigned the Pontiac trans port in 2005 and that version got a good rating

  • @jonathancheshire4839
    @jonathancheshire4839 7 років тому +8

    The ford windstar saved my life

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 6 років тому +2

      Jonathan Cheshire same my mom owned a windstar it's a 2002

    • @markk3652
      @markk3652 4 роки тому

      My Dodge Grand Caravan SE saved my life. Every time I'd drive it downtown Chicago, whenever a carjacker approached to steal it, just before grabbing the doorhandle to presumably pull me out and drive away, they'd get this look on their face. A look like they had just drank vinegar, instead of icewater. Then they'd run away. Man, that was a great van!

  • @4nciite
    @4nciite 5 років тому

    An old couple in a 1994 Caravan ran a red light and t-boned a 2012 Toyota Sienna flipping the Sienna over twice, the old couple immediately got out and walked over to see if the people in the Sienna were alright, unfortunately the couple and their three kids were seriously injured and had to be cut out of the van and airlifted, I never found out if anyone in the van survived. The body on frame Caravan was still driveable surprisingly.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 4 роки тому +1

      I find it hard to I believe this story...

    • @j.v7505
      @j.v7505 2 роки тому

      Screw those stupid old farts, how dare they injure someone with their reckless stupidity , screw them!!!

  • @amoryerenhouse5535
    @amoryerenhouse5535 Рік тому +1

    Luckily, the Astro and Savannah were mostly sold as cargo vans and occasionally sold as passenger vans, not minivans

  • @wesleyditchko8376
    @wesleyditchko8376 Рік тому +3

    Everyone: Fords are Auful CHEAPLY MADE!! BREAKS EASLY!!!
    Ford: would you rather die in a Pontiac?

  • @spehammond
    @spehammond 6 років тому +2

    Omg my family had a Toyota previa for years and my dad fell asleep while driving it once when we were in driving in France on a mountain road and we were bouncing of the barrier 😳

  • @ieatwhatigrow8218
    @ieatwhatigrow8218 6 років тому +1

    I was Very surprised the WinStar came out on top!

  • @EthanUzzle
    @EthanUzzle 7 років тому +2

    It was a little funny to see the steering wheel fall out when they opened the door.

  • @soyeldiego4878
    @soyeldiego4878 6 років тому +1

    I recall my wife wanting a mini van back in the mid 90s. I told her you have to see this video and prove to her that they were unsafe. We bought a an SUV instead.

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 2 роки тому

      @@based_kujoproductions Exactly, but not surprised he was that ignorant

  • @towcat
    @towcat 6 років тому

    I drive an '07 Caravan and used to have a '98 Caravan...that is scary.
    Wow.

  • @GuldstrandLin66
    @GuldstrandLin66 5 років тому +3

    An uncle had a 2005 Venture and they crashed from behind, the trunk was destroyed.

  • @Limo813
    @Limo813 Місяць тому

    My grandpa got in a crash in the Chevrolet astro he got rear ended by some car going fast amazingly he survived he only had a broken back

  • @ViceCityMasta
    @ViceCityMasta 7 років тому

    Where's the Mazda MPV crash test footage/pictures?

  • @jldude84
    @jldude84 9 місяців тому +1

    The balls on the guy that wrote a letter claiming that "less than 1% of offset crashes happen at 40mph".....

  • @BunnehSaev
    @BunnehSaev 11 років тому

    Actually the total force of the collision is the same. The difference is the force is split between the vehicles. The impact for each car is the equivalent of 20 mph into a wall.

  • @elsydeon666
    @elsydeon666 9 років тому +8

    I wonder how honest this is. Firstly, this is the same Dateline that tried to make sidesaddle GM trucks look like BBQs. Second, the 1G GM U-bodies are built like race cars (space framed) instead of body-on-frame or unibody. If you want legit crash testing, ask Volvo.

    • @00crashtest
      @00crashtest  9 років тому +11

      Dateline was only reporting this show. They were only spectators of the tests and had no authority to decide in any part of the testing.

    • @lyndon8488
      @lyndon8488 9 років тому

      elsydeon666 . its honest. u go ahead and do a offset crash with these mini vans and we will see how you come out. and most cars and mini vans do crash at offset patterns almost every cars that crash head on-one side is always crashed in more than the other side . question is car makers have to continue to make these offset crashes where the damage is on one side more than the other safer. period

    • @xrystalskyes2838
      @xrystalskyes2838 8 років тому +3

      Don't look at dateline, go to the institutes UA-cam channel, and you want to hear the scariest shit ever look at the crashes testing cars and minivans that hit the back of a truck. It's insane, only in 2011 did a reasonable regulation from the government come about... Seriously look into it

    • @chillkootmarkowee8738
      @chillkootmarkowee8738 8 років тому

      This world is all about marketing and bullshiting insurance claims.

    • @cnrred41
      @cnrred41 7 років тому

      it's very honest its the same crashes as in IIHS tests

  • @DNIHelixUSN
    @DNIHelixUSN 7 років тому +4

    11:15 listen to whats said, too fast? See in this day and age we have dash cams and if you look at the majority of them, someone is Hot Headed and is SPEEDING right into someone else! I hope this is type of test is mandatory today.

    • @lizzsszzy7800
      @lizzsszzy7800 6 років тому

      It still is conducted today with new cars. They have a new, harder test called the small-overlap.

    • @Fenncer24
      @Fenncer24 5 років тому

      DNIHelixUSN
      Yes you are right about how fast people are going. Where I live drivers go at least 10 mph over the posted speed and just up the street from my apartment drivers are racing each other easily going 20 mph over the posted speed. Also just look at the crosses on the side of the road and intersections.

  • @blosgames4492
    @blosgames4492 4 роки тому +1

    Deam baby! Falto la lumina APV 1996.
    15-SEP-2019

  • @ethan-jy4ld
    @ethan-jy4ld 7 років тому +21

    I would test at 65 mph.

  • @lizzsszzy7800
    @lizzsszzy7800 7 років тому +20

    40 MPH isn't fast at all!

    • @cnrred41
      @cnrred41 7 років тому +4

      your right its not highway they should rename it IIRS

    • @nicodo123
      @nicodo123 7 років тому +3

      For a highway, yes it is fast. But for a freeway, it's really slow.

    • @whatwhatwhat79
      @whatwhatwhat79 7 років тому

      dogeified And yet, the Transport got crushed.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 6 років тому +2

      Most undivided roads (not interstates) have speed limits between 35 and 55 MPH.

    • @justenzo6342
      @justenzo6342 6 років тому

      Nicodo123 it's not a highway one. It's for like head on collisions on back roads

  • @JoeyLovesTrains
    @JoeyLovesTrains 7 років тому +1

    Honestly makes me feel safe that my parents drove me in a 2001 ford Windstar.

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 6 років тому

      JoeyLovesTrains my mom had a 2002 ford windstar

    • @CarringtonHollister
      @CarringtonHollister Рік тому

      @@cjiekel668my sister had a 2002 Windstar

  • @danielmenist4750
    @danielmenist4750 10 років тому +6

    I hate how it's always about "meeting" the federal standard. A standard that is no doubt effected by tons of bureaucratic BS all in the name of lowering costs. What a shitty cop out.

    • @msxarty5398
      @msxarty5398 8 років тому +1

      Every gosh darn letter the compinaes always say "it meets federal regulations" . Yep! If it didn't it wouldn't be on the road!!!

    • @josephbettano2569
      @josephbettano2569 5 років тому +1

      Federal safety standards are not rigorous enough! The government should do more to make cars much more safer!

  • @zcomputermanz4177
    @zcomputermanz4177 3 роки тому

    i still love my previa ngl

  • @InvestBetter.
    @InvestBetter. 10 місяців тому

    And this Pontiac Trans Sport.......was a redesign!
    This was the Trans Sport that was an improvement
    Imagine what the 1990 model was like?☠

  • @manuelarrieta6614
    @manuelarrieta6614 7 років тому

    good report

  • @ianclaudio777
    @ianclaudio777 7 років тому

    imagine these vehicles on the small overlap test

  • @FLJAMESFL
    @FLJAMESFL 6 років тому

    And to think I use to love the Trans Sport. Omg.

  • @richardthefox3412
    @richardthefox3412 6 років тому

    Now we know why the Previa isn't sold in the states anymore.

  • @j.t.richardson7046
    @j.t.richardson7046 9 місяців тому

    Here's a list of the minivans
    Good: Ford Windstar
    Marginal: Mazda MPV, Dodge Grand Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Nissan Quest
    Poor: Chevrolet Astro, Ford Aerostar, Toyota Previa
    Fail: Pontiac Trans Sport

  • @hobart7897
    @hobart7897 8 років тому +1

    what about the back seat passengers.

  • @harumafif4411
    @harumafif4411 6 років тому +1

    4:59 that's like a terror