400 watt wind turbine from aliexpress - installation, output test and review

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • These turbines look good but barely generate 10 % of their advertised output. I suspect the included charge controller being connected to the battery uses more power than the turbine can produce in an average month.
    Waste of money, better off with another solar panel.
    I plan to ditch the generator and bolt the blades to my own modified smartdrive permanent magnet generator, should make around 500 watts in a good wind.
    To those assuming my cable is too light and complaining about tree top turbulence, please read the following to put your minds at ease -:
    Turbine has no problem getting up to full speed, in fact I find the tree line ramps up and increases wind speed just above the tree tops in this location, sure there is some turbulence but when I see the blades spinning full speed I know its not a major issue. Cable loss is negligible with such a low output from the turbine -my wire gauge 4mm2, cable length 20m, max 20a advertised output from turbine 20a = AC energy loss of 20.78% worst case scenario with advertised output. Now from testing on the bench at recommended rpm with near flat 24v batt as a load, wired through the reg/rec as shown in the manual and experimenting with various loads including a 12v battery I know maximum output is more like 65w which would give me a cable loss of 3.1% not enough to worry about.

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  • @andyklyon
    @andyklyon 5 років тому +36

    Watching someone assemble something with small nuts and bolts on decking with gaps in it could be a new stress inducing genre for UA-cam!

    • @MrJohnMainwaring
      @MrJohnMainwaring 4 роки тому +1

      Been there done that, then used a little magnet n a string to find the *&^/# nut.

  • @FlorentHenry
    @FlorentHenry 3 роки тому +9

    Power delivered by wind turbine is a function of speed squared so a slightly faster wind might yield more power. Turbulences from the tree could cause losses. All that being said, windfarms yield an average 30% of installed capacity (maintenance, no or low wind).

  • @benjaminpowell9758
    @benjaminpowell9758 7 років тому +4

    I like how you made use of the instructions, not to be read but to keep the stuff off the deck. I think a lot of us are alike! Appreciate the video.

  • @fedeyoutub
    @fedeyoutub 7 років тому +388

    Maybe you did not read the manual, it's clearly written down to 400w, during a tornado 10 force! :-))

    • @ghaithghazi6748
      @ghaithghazi6748 7 років тому +7

      fedeyoutub lol

    • @blackroonney
      @blackroonney 7 років тому +6

      Make sense 🤔

    • @param888
      @param888 6 років тому +4

      fedeyoutub, conditions apply if the turbine survived the tornado :-D

    • @dipak002
      @dipak002 6 років тому +2

      Only if the wind turbine survives a tornado. :P

    • @barrybreazynetete
      @barrybreazynetete 6 років тому

      lol

  • @markstevens1729
    @markstevens1729 3 роки тому +1

    I haven’t watched all the video yet, but based on comments, your device success rate has improved over the years. Less new crap, better results.

  • @sneharthyadav9832
    @sneharthyadav9832 6 років тому +2

    I like the point where you said tree can be used as poles. Thank you for sharing this information

  • @biggityboggityboo8775
    @biggityboggityboo8775 7 років тому +408

    The performance is absolutely pathetic...I'm glad I saw this.

    • @itubeyourass
      @itubeyourass 7 років тому

      "performance" ? a BIG word :( thanks for the video !

    • @biagmiro
      @biagmiro 7 років тому +1

      BiggityBoggityBoo k no no no one no

    • @biagmiro
      @biagmiro 7 років тому +1

      it go by to no no. see seebn Co

    • @highkicker11
      @highkicker11 7 років тому +11

      Well one reason the generator performs the way it does could be the feed cable length or foulty windings. He does have the basic parts now and with a bit of work might make it perform better

    • @loopymind
      @loopymind 7 років тому +8

      highkicker11 judging from how far away the turbine is to the house, it might well bee the wiring, having said that, 400watt is in the best of conditions very optimistic for this turbine

  • @isaactuscano7470
    @isaactuscano7470 7 років тому +122

    I wonder how delivery guys found his house

    • @williamwidener4282
      @williamwidener4282 5 років тому

      China can afford a postal service j/k lol

    • @u.s.patriot3415
      @u.s.patriot3415 5 років тому

      GPS

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 2 роки тому

      You go down the dirt track for 6km and turn left after the third macrocarpa tree. *SEMPLES!* 👍

  • @silverismoney
    @silverismoney 3 роки тому +2

    Looks cool, nice video. I loved your idea of pruning the trees and putting it between, very stealthy.

    • @ronr4728
      @ronr4728 Рік тому

      Yeah no council DA required

  • @Lardzor
    @Lardzor 6 років тому +4

    I know this is a very late comment, I just wanted to point out that resistance increases over distance. I longer the run between generator and charger, the greater the resistance. Also, thinner wires have more resistance than thicker wires.

  • @AnonYmous-qg4ph
    @AnonYmous-qg4ph 6 років тому +67

    You bought a really bulky phone charger...

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  6 років тому +6

      Lol yeah I would have been better off with a 10w solar panel

  • @trislynd1
    @trislynd1 8 років тому +134

    Nice tree climbing skills! Beautiful place!

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  8 років тому +8

      Thanks Jess, its our little slice of paradise

    • @ranjitf1
      @ranjitf1 7 років тому +3

      Absolutely breathtaking view ! And surrounded by trees!

    • @richardpaulson8954
      @richardpaulson8954 7 років тому +3

      TheCuriousOne AC transmission won't help unless a transformer is used to boost voltage, but not worth it for such a pathetic output and likely is china broken or just not meeting spec. It's likely the latter, they are crooks. Five blades means rpm are lower, this means the low speed genset is expensive and large. Doesn't look big enough. Look for 3 blade if you got 10m/s 22mph wind. btw, I'm an bsee.

    • @chrispi3141
      @chrispi3141 7 років тому

      Dmitry Nechaev no you actully See that there is little loss as 25 volts reach the point of measurement. you might loose voltage but you never loose current!

    • @NechaevDmitry
      @NechaevDmitry 7 років тому +1

      You can only find it by measuring resistance of the line or the voltage on the generator and consumer, right?
      As I saw there was only one measurement, which I remembered as on the consumer, so what voltage is on the generator is unknown. It might be 40 volts. It is the same as Chinese 12v charger can give you all 20, assuming you'll get around 12 under average loading.

  • @fernarias
    @fernarias 7 років тому +18

    I bought four of these for my Tesla and it won't stop running. I drove all the way to Australia, whoo.

  • @KalpeshPatel78
    @KalpeshPatel78 7 років тому +2

    I thought you were going to takeoff at 3:29 Nelson. Great video. Thinking of buying myself these turbines.

    • @jandevries6660
      @jandevries6660 3 роки тому

      you should buy it, install it in the right way and it will work...

  • @CyberMacGyver
    @CyberMacGyver 7 років тому +3

    The tower was 'built' years before the turbine was invented.... i love it! 👍

  • @frenchcreekvalley
    @frenchcreekvalley 5 років тому +4

    What were you using for a load? If you were charging a 24 volt battery that wasn't completely dead, that low amperage might be possible. I'd load it with a resistive load until the voltage dropped to 22 or 23 to really see what it can do. Besides, there will be a lot of turbulence up in that tree that might reduce the effectiveness of your 10 meter/sec wind velocity. I think that the power increases as the cube of the wind speed, so going from a 10m/sec wind speed to 12m/sec would make a huge difference in power.

  • @chrisbunch3190
    @chrisbunch3190 4 роки тому +1

    I purchased a 3kw wind + 2kw solar panels. Hybrid system. the solar panels outperform the wind all the time (we are 30 deg south near the coast west Australia) The 3 blades were not balanced and destroyed the bearings, Tanfon, the Chinese manufacturers would not believe that at least the 3 blades should all be the same weight!

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  4 роки тому

      If they put a bit more time and effort into their design they could make a very good product, I would love to give a good review on this turbine but it is hopelessly under powered

  • @nixxonnor
    @nixxonnor 6 років тому +3

    A 24V battery requires that the regulator outputs ~28 VDC @ 14,3A to generate ~400 Watts. The total resistance in the wires and load should be the equivalent of 1.96 ohms to dissipate 400 Watts at 28 Volts. If you use 2 x 20 meter gauge 17 (1.04mm^2) Copper wires between the regulator and the load, you introduce an extra 0,64 ohm resistance to the system that will steal 130Watts of the total 400Watts, leaving only 270 Watts for the actual load (32.5% loss of power in the wires). The cables would also drop the voltage by ~9Volts, leaving only ~19 Volts to reach the destination (i.e. a flat 24V battery). Such a setup would be less than optimal.
    The moral is use short cable runs using copper wire with a big cross section.

    • @95TurboCivic
      @95TurboCivic 2 роки тому

      I love your answer brother
      But what is the best way to set this up to realize the best bang for you buck when going with this product if I decided I want to do it my self?

    • @nixxonnor
      @nixxonnor 2 роки тому +1

      @@95TurboCivic Place the turbine up and free of obstacles where the wind speed is the highest. Use short cable runs using copper wire with a big cross section. Tighten cable terminals well. That is to reduce power loss in the cables.

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac 3 роки тому +2

    Marty, I hope you work on “your generator” to this tree top propeller and record it for us? BTW, great idea putting the propeller in a tree!!!!

  • @stylusrowm
    @stylusrowm 7 років тому +26

    Nelson Bomber ,
    I like that you are testing these import products.
    But I would not recommend putting a turbine in front of any object, be it a tree or a building or to close to the ground would never product good results because of air turbulence. This is why large wind turbines make more power out at sea than on land. Not as much turbulence in the airflow. 12m/s and above is the point to aim for in wind, anything below the generator will just not turn quick enough.
    That blade design is for whats call clean air, take it as fair away from any object as possible will create better results like high up in a pole on a ridge line for example.
    I am not say this will solve your issue, maybe have a read up on air flow over turbine blades and vertical vs horizontal.
    Coming from a engineering researcher who lives in the windiest county in Europe, wind turbines are only good if you have the right place to put them. Other wise they are totally useless waste of money.
    In my case a 1kw turbine in mind of a field with no tree line produces more than it advertised and it was a cheap Chinese product. The only fault I found if the generator quality is bad so it would not last long.
    Wish you all the best to get it working.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому +7

      Air turbulence was not a problem, I ended up spinning the generator with an electric motor to see if I could get more out of it, it peaked at around 60 watts, still only 10% of the advertised output

    • @THEfromkentucky
      @THEfromkentucky 7 років тому +1

      If that's the case, then it sounds like it's just a bad generator. Would replacing the crappy generator with a good one still be worth it?

    • @thangchaguite5321
      @thangchaguite5321 7 років тому

      Nelson Bomber Can TV work?

    • @JoeReid53
      @JoeReid53 7 років тому +1

      Have you a link to your turbine?

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому +1

      Here's the link, www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/7306407399.html?orderId=72734064884289&productId=32284759136 would expect all those cheap chinese turbines to have similar output, I've heard similar stories about turbines from other suppliers and a confession from one supplier saying these smaller chinese turbines are just toys, better off getting a few solar panels

  • @michaelvanallen6400
    @michaelvanallen6400 10 місяців тому +1

    *1) All small wind turbines actually achieve only 5-15% of the advertised power.*
    *2) All practical tests show that small wind turbines hardly generate any electricity. And only at costs above 1$/kWh!*
    There is hardly any wind near the ground. And it is also very gusty, which extremely reduces the service life of the systems.
    *With solar systems, you can reliably generate electricity for about 3-10 cents/kWh over a period of 25 years!*

  • @GadgetAddict
    @GadgetAddict 7 років тому +2

    Such a big generator for just 32.5 Watts. A shame because you went through the effort of getting it all setup.

  • @eugenepohjola258
    @eugenepohjola258 3 роки тому

    Howdy. My suggestion only.
    Throw the regulator at a flock of mallards. Three phase rectify the output and use a car stereo power capacitor to filter the output. Finally use a power step up/down voltage booster and adjust for an output voltage of 14 V for a 12 V battery.
    During stronger winds the generator output will be way over 14 V. The step down booster will transform the surplus voltage into current. In weaker winds the step up will provide some charging though the generator output is under 12 V. It will transform some current into extra voltage.
    As said. My thinking only. Regards.

  • @John_Smith__
    @John_Smith__ 6 років тому +1

    Measuring the distance between tips of the blads is not enough to ensure balance. You have to Balance the blades After they're setup correctly with correct distances. that means hanging the assembled blade with a string in the middle of the blade axis and check to see if the blade leans on either side ..then if that is the case you have to add some plumb and stick to the opposite side ..there is a video online that shows how it's done ...I've forgot the link.

  • @mauriceupton1474
    @mauriceupton1474 6 років тому

    Hope you put a one star feed back for the sellers, and to warn other buyers

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 5 років тому +3

    Right across the street from my house, the backyards of those homes have a pretty good moving stream running through them. Boy, would I love to tap all that wasted energy..

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  5 років тому

      Yeah hydro is the way to go if you have access to a stream, power 24/7 means less expense on storage batteries

  • @GlennLittleford
    @GlennLittleford 7 років тому +29

    to small to make 400 watts. maybe 150 in a gale. A lot of the cheap turbines use false advertising.

    • @user-jh6vt8vx4v
      @user-jh6vt8vx4v 7 років тому +8

      Glenn Littleford True, I see tons of these wind turbines near the coast of my home town. They are used to power the LED street light. From the light intensity of the street light, I figure is at 50 W ball park. So, There is no way to squeeze out 400W from a generator with this size and I don't care how you tweak it. I will say, the 400W claim shall be 40W. The problem of some seller on Ali express or alibaba is, they themself have no ideal what their product capable off...

  • @crazzylee
    @crazzylee 7 років тому +3

    It might because of the wiring. Leave in 3 phase all the way up to the battery bank then convert it from 3 phase to D.C. I'll bet that's what the problem is. It's a common mistake. Remember rectify at the battery bank.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  6 років тому

      rec/reg Controller is at the battery bank

  • @danman4426
    @danman4426 7 років тому +6

    and I was about to buy one of these. thanks

  • @quincyberman5629
    @quincyberman5629 6 років тому +3

    You could probably get more if you moved it away from the tree. The airflow should be laminar for optimal performance.

  • @raoulman1
    @raoulman1 3 роки тому

    the indicated power is almost every time for a wind's speed of 50 Km/h = 13,9 m/s. it is enormous. People don't realize.
    This speed is the maximum speed of your turbine, if bigger, the controler regulate turbine's speed, (brake function) if not, it's electrical annihilation of your setup, it's overcharge.
    I believe than if wind's speed double, his power is 4 times more, it's not proportional.
    these informations need to be confirmed.

  • @DKTAz00
    @DKTAz00 7 років тому +131

    How long and thick was your conductor wire? could create considderable losses

    • @sajidashraf7059
      @sajidashraf7059 7 років тому +1

      DKTAz00 pric

    • @smellysam
      @smellysam 7 років тому +12

      Yup, DC does not like to travel, the inverter should be as close to the source as possible (in the tree?). In any case, this turbine is better suited for experimenting than actually depending on it.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому +22

      Plenty thick enough. Generator output is so low, cable thickness is irrelevant. I have tested generator output at the windings on the bench with same results.

    • @shawnio
      @shawnio 6 років тому +3

      you're an idiot

    • @greenidguy9292
      @greenidguy9292 6 років тому +8

      “Long and thick” 😂😂😂

  • @nixxonnor
    @nixxonnor 6 років тому +7

    The wind turbine/regulator combo seems to be the "Morning Group" model S2-400W at aliexpress. It is stated in the specs (graph) that the system should generate 400W at wind speeds above ~10.8 m/s. The regulator's nominal voltage is selectable 12 or 24 VDC. It seems that you have not put enough load on the DC output from the regulator. If you did, the voltage should have dropped way below 25 VDC, which is actually a higher voltage than the max nominal 24V output.
    Next time try connecting a battery that is not close to fully charged :D
    You could try to connect a 2 ohm power resistor and then measure the voltage drop across the load while measuring the amperage going through the wires at the same time.

    • @jacobdavis000
      @jacobdavis000 5 років тому

      You said what I wanted to say, way better. I commented about the batteries having low load current too. lol. If the voltage is up then it's a problem with the load.

  • @alimakbuz5929
    @alimakbuz5929 5 років тому

    To get 400 watt in 12 Volts, you need around 17 Ampers ! That means you need a cable as thick as your wrist to carry it properly outdoors without much loss. If you convert it to 110 Volts close to the trubine, you'll only have 3,6 ampers max and normal household wiring will do ok. In fact, all types of outdoor wiring has significant losses so its better to produce power as close as possible to the point you use it.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  5 років тому

      Lol, a cable the size of a babys little finger would be plenty to carry 17amps over a 12 metre run.

    • @alimakbuz5929
      @alimakbuz5929 5 років тому

      @@MartyT you'll lose power with a cable that tick. Cable gets heated by the energy turbine produces. You may not realize the heating since the air outside will cool it back. Thinner the cable, more the heating, and more power goes into the air before reaching the end of the cable.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  5 років тому

      I know all about cable loss, I've been living off grid for over 15 years using solar and hydro power. Cable loss was calculated to be 3.1% Read the video description for more info.

  • @SedatedByLife
    @SedatedByLife 7 років тому +61

    That's not typical for wind turbines unless they have bad blade configurations or pitch. It was an AliExpress purchase so that doesn't shock me. How far is the tree from the house? You could be losing voltage from distance and size of cables as well as if it's a DC turbine or ac turbine. Just some ideas. It's disappointing to see that you didn't get good performance though but that's not indicative of wind turbines :-/

    • @crazzylee
      @crazzylee 7 років тому +10

      Sedated By life he needs to covert from 3 phase at the battery bank to D.C. That's why it's such a low read out.

    • @ImmortalShiro
      @ImmortalShiro 7 років тому +10

      Also he didn't show how did he measured the current.. :/

    • @EGGINFOOLS
      @EGGINFOOLS 5 років тому

      He says in other comments that he measured at the coils before the wire run.

  • @CrankyPantss
    @CrankyPantss 7 років тому

    Came over from the angry ram channel. Congrats on your success there and the new baby. Am looking forward to following this channel, too.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому +3

      Thanks for subbing, all sorts of random vids planned for this channel. Hopefully there's something you find interesting :)

  • @metou3072
    @metou3072 6 років тому

    You can add more resistance to the wind turbine by increasing the voltage being used by the batteries to generate the electricity... the more resistance to turn the blades equals more electricity made..your increasing the strength of the magnetic field being used to produce electricity

  • @wilfredokaw756
    @wilfredokaw756 7 років тому

    Good for you. You recieved what you ordered. I once ordered the same from them last November 2016. Until now I ddnt get the item and no refund was made. You better think again when you wanted to order.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому

      Yeah by the time this arrived it was too late to return it, the return window had expired

    • @markbrown3587
      @markbrown3587 7 років тому

      - If the item does not arrive before the return window click the ask the vendor to extend button and if they don't cancel the order and AliExpress will refund your money no questions asked. It helps to learn how the system works as it is a little complex but super safe.
      - AliExpress holds the money until the return window or you click the accept button then they give it to the vendor. Think of AliExpress as the international version of Amazon except its all vendors and nothing directly from AliExpress.

  • @BenderBendingRodriguezz672
    @BenderBendingRodriguezz672 5 років тому +19

    i think the wire diameter is to smal for the long distance. you cant transport low voltage without losing energy .

    • @MatHelm
      @MatHelm 4 роки тому +3

      You can if it's AC. Relatively speaking of course.

    • @BenderBendingRodriguezz672
      @BenderBendingRodriguezz672 4 роки тому +1

      @@MatHelm yeah everybody knows it but the generator in the video is dc

    • @skoto.power.systems
      @skoto.power.systems 4 роки тому +3

      @@BenderBendingRodriguezz672 please no it a 3phase AC alternator then the converter converts it to DC

  • @yves2075
    @yves2075 7 років тому +6

    The output in watt is typically on a par with musical watts from cheapo products: divide by ten, you have reall watts. Nothing new! Sail on; buy ten of those and you'll have 400Watts.

  • @nunyerbeeznaz2906
    @nunyerbeeznaz2906 6 років тому

    With that style of blade,the return is minimal due to rotational torque needed to transmit power. A Savonius turbine is about 40% effective. Transporting power like than,your'e better off controlling,storing,then inverting to AC power,as it "Travels" better. DC drops a crapload over a short span,where 110vac loses very little unless the wire is tiny. I put my panels in the yard,instead of on the roof,and had to seriously think whether to invert across the yard and travel the 110vac,versus 40 feet of #2 copper. We went copper.

  • @jeremywestern7067
    @jeremywestern7067 7 років тому +20

    So you need a constant hurricane for that thing to power the light bulb in your refrigerator???

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому +3

      Pretty much yep

  • @callmeshane303
    @callmeshane303 6 років тому +5

    Yeah a basic mental calculation is that IF a pedestal fan can "screw" through a cylinder of air, giving X volume (swept area) by Y velocity, using volts x amperes = watts, then then to reverse it with say 20 or 30% losses, then 4 skinny little blades, being pushed around by a wind, through a wind tunnel, kind of like, even in ball park figures - sort of guesstimating, a BIG 60cm / 2' diameter pedestal fan will use say 50W..... to blow a strong breeze, then if I was to put that wind turbine in that air stream, I reckon it would be lucky to get 15W of that back out as power.... however if you bolted it to the front of a jet aircraft doing 900Kmh at 12,000 meters, SURE no doubt that you would get 400W out of it then....

    • @todaywefly4370
      @todaywefly4370 5 років тому

      Yeah I figured there was an extra zero in the somwhere. 40 W not 400

  • @coachwilson5967
    @coachwilson5967 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the post. These might charge a cell phone but that's about it. Still looking for a 3500-4000W unit to assist the powerwall at night for my off grid home.

    • @coachwilson5967
      @coachwilson5967 4 роки тому

      @@MrSummitville up on this hill SE of Reno it's pretty good. 15-30 mph

  • @derekaegerter9172
    @derekaegerter9172 7 років тому +3

    The total theoretical power in the wind at 10 m/s (assuming you're at sea level and that's a 1m diameter turbine) is only ~600W... and with a top of the line turbine you can at best expect 40% efficiency.

  • @FigJamRu
    @FigJamRu 7 років тому

    I have been experimenting with wind turbines for the last year ,and i will say i thought my turbine was no more than a wind chime until i changed the really cheap charge controller for a high quality hybrid and right now my computer which i am on and the rest of the house is running on only 8 panels and the wind generator,and so my guess is you need a quality charge controller and then you will have no problems. Its easy to get off grid 12x 2 volt batteries 8 panels and a wind generator im loving it no bill!!!

    • @alexbilenkin3418
      @alexbilenkin3418 7 років тому

      what controller you use?

    • @FigJamRu
      @FigJamRu 7 років тому +1

      I am using an unbranded hybrid charge controller which will handle up to 600 watts of input from the wind generator side but importantly it is an MPPT controller . My first controller was a solid state controller just like the one in this clip on the floor at 105 ,and now my opinion of these solid state controllers is that they make good fishing sinkers, I will make a clip soon of my vertical axis turbine and controller cheers

  • @bobsugrue2983
    @bobsugrue2983 6 років тому +2

    I was about to buy one of those but I won’t be now thanks for the video but I do need one hope you find a good one

  • @BirdWhisperer46
    @BirdWhisperer46 3 роки тому +1

    I usually pass these videos by. I read 30 years ago that any wind generator will never, in it's mechanical life span, ever generate enough power to pay back what it costs to build them. LOL

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  3 роки тому

      Sounds about right, better off with solar these days

  • @philipkeiser4442
    @philipkeiser4442 3 роки тому +1

    Looks like a very efficient bird killer

  • @ianwilson8759
    @ianwilson8759 4 роки тому

    Sorry, a bit late for a comment. I love your videos and can't understand why so many posters are mocking your efforts rather than offering constructive help, but I guess that's to be expected. I think installing it within a group of trees is a big mistake. The wind would begin to divert around the trees well before it actually got to the trees. So your turbine would never function that well. Plus, you would have a very disrupted airflow. There would be lots of air pockets, which would also cut down your wattage.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  4 роки тому +1

      The site or cable length is not the problem, It gets up to very high speed in a fresh breeze. The cheap turbine is the problem, tested on the bench I get the same abysmal results with a very short cable run

  • @misiumaniak6796
    @misiumaniak6796 6 років тому

    It is not disappointing, this is the well known truth about wind turbines. May be some days in the year it gives the nominal power.

  • @electronicdiy3738
    @electronicdiy3738 7 років тому

    nice vidéo and expérience and landscape . Try to put turbine Wind on house roof with a long bar to get max speed and try to connect the device to a gear motor in porpose to amplify the low speed to high speed and in result the motor generates high electrical energy .

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому

      I'm not wasting any more time with it.

  • @jackm6307
    @jackm6307 7 років тому +2

    Just a general thanks for going to the trouble to save people form getting conned.

  • @jacobdavis000
    @jacobdavis000 5 років тому +1

    I know this is an old video, but I just thought that it sure doesn't look like a very good propeller shape. The blades don't look much like airfoils. Also, whatever the power rating depends on the load amps and those can't really be controlled by the supply side. So if the amps are low then it's possible that the load is not taking enough, for whatever reason. Maybe batteries need higher charge voltage.

    • @ripprind
      @ripprind 3 роки тому

      "Now from testing on the bench at recommended rpm with near flat 24v batt as a load, wired through the reg/rec as shown in the manual and experimenting with various loads including a 12v battery I know maximum output is more like 65w"

  • @androgabisonia2003
    @androgabisonia2003 6 років тому

    Right. I have similar toy from China, but with 6 blades, 500 watt. Two years gone, but still waiting tornado, may be will get that power.

  • @indigodragon7129
    @indigodragon7129 7 років тому

    Add a rewired drum motor generator with magnetic bearings with a vacuum spark gap to increase the electrical generation of a single windmill like the one in this video. ; )

  • @kotysoft
    @kotysoft 7 років тому +135

    Maybe they used chinese units in power. Try to convert them to SI units (simply divide by 10) :) Chinese 400 = global 40. Just like in every other products and measurement units. 20Mpixel chinese camera = 2MPixel real. etc... :)

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому +23

      Haha That sounds about right

    • @dmd8552
      @dmd8552 6 років тому +12

      That applies to clothing as well. XXXXXL is equal to a US Large.

    • @Headcase0570
      @Headcase0570 6 років тому +9

      Don't forget those miracle powerbanks, 50000 MAh for $2!

    • @TigerLeadFont5
      @TigerLeadFont5 6 років тому +18

      Power banks are the exception to that rule, you divide by 100.

    • @TheKarabala
      @TheKarabala 6 років тому +1

      Hahahahahhah

  • @hmax1591
    @hmax1591 6 років тому

    one of the problems I have is that these wind turbines are advertised by watts. Watts are a unit of electrical consumption not production. these generators are being falsely sold on the pretense they can run electrical appliances that consume up to 400 watts and a steady wind. most if not all consumers buy these generators to charge batteries not to directly hook on a load. they should be sold by how much amps they can generate to charge a battery. DC generators need to be real close to the batteries, long distances of wires can really hamper the voltage that arrives at the batteries or load. That's why we used A/C in our homes. Buy wind a/c alternators not dc, convert the a/c to d/c and the end of the run.

  • @the_hate_inside1085
    @the_hate_inside1085 3 роки тому +1

    Things you buy from aliexpress, tend to be rated in Chinese watts... 400/32=12.5, so one regular watt, equals 12.5 Chinese watts, now you know for future reference.

  • @macrumpton
    @macrumpton 7 років тому

    400 watts probably in a 40mph wind. Keep in mind the power available in the wind goes up the square of the wind speed. 3mph is 9x and 5mph is 25x and 10mph is 100x

    • @UCreations
      @UCreations 7 років тому

      Force goes up by the the square of the speed. Power goes up by the third power. With such a small wind turbine you'll get 100W max at 10 m/s if it is very efficient. Higher wind speeds can lower the efficiency.

  • @Admiralhall2000
    @Admiralhall2000 7 років тому

    The problem with wind turbines is you need u=11 m/s for 75% of the time and clean air flows. Forests are unsuitable

  • @radekfedyk4588
    @radekfedyk4588 7 років тому +6

    What load you have used? I see that the rpms picked up massively! What was the actual voltage when you had 1A?

    • @robjonas9047
      @robjonas9047 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly! If you're trying to charge a full battery the controller will shut it right down

  • @sc1212able
    @sc1212able 5 років тому

    I have the same wind turbine on my sailboat and its output daily is around 270 up to 378 watts, my cables are only 30 feet long going into a mppt controller.....

  • @jon4x4
    @jon4x4 7 років тому

    appreciate, your honest description....

  • @indigodragon7129
    @indigodragon7129 7 років тому

    Construct a support pole and fill the inside with organic carbon power cells connected in series. Then have solid state graphite power cell bank in the base. Then you will not need a battery bank and you can always have electricity with wind or without wind.

  • @SpaceMusicOutofWorld
    @SpaceMusicOutofWorld 5 років тому

    Environment-friendly energy by cutting a part of a tree! Nice!!!!!!

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  5 років тому

      Kanukas love a good pruning.. the tree is doing well ;)

    • @SpaceMusicOutofWorld
      @SpaceMusicOutofWorld 5 років тому

      @@MartyT Thank you for your reply. :) It's clear now.

  • @soyo
    @soyo 7 років тому +34

    Tree as Tower?! It bends (you loss energy with the swinging), block your Wind and generate turbulence around...

    • @mightymap007
      @mightymap007 5 років тому +2

      how do u block/generate turbulence?

    • @jandevries6660
      @jandevries6660 3 роки тому

      exactly... better to put in the living room and blow with the whole family... 😂🙈

  • @CuttingEdgePowerLLC
    @CuttingEdgePowerLLC 4 роки тому

    How much power does a 400 watt wind turbine produce? How much power does a 400w wind turbine produce per day? Is it safe to install it on the tree? Does the tree cuts the wind? Did you solve the low current output problem? How much was it? How big of a wind turbine is needed to power a house?

  • @kathleenwhite9234
    @kathleenwhite9234 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Marty T can you recommend an alternative home wind turbine? Thanks for the video btw.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  4 роки тому +1

      No sorry I don't know of any good ones, solar panels are so cheap these days that would be my recommendation

    • @kathleenwhite9234
      @kathleenwhite9234 4 роки тому

      @@MartyT That's cool thanks man :)

  • @homayounshirazi9550
    @homayounshirazi9550 6 років тому +2

    A note of caution about balancing the blades. It is not enough to ensure that the tips of the blades are equally spaced from each other. You must make sure that when your blades are suspended by a string that all blades are in the same plane. Any minor variations in the weight of each blade or imperfection in the manufacturing would make it unbalanced. You would need to adjust for this by attaching small weights until all blades are in the same plane. Using a tree branch or trunk to hang your wind turbine from is not a good idea. This is because the nearby branches create sufficient turbulance to diminish the efficiency of your turbine.
    Nice beach area, though!
    Was it Costa Rica?

  • @dtsdigitalden5023
    @dtsdigitalden5023 6 років тому

    This one of the coolest wind-powered fans I've seen yet! :) Only Ali Express makes it possible.

  • @mepanousispanousis6784
    @mepanousispanousis6784 6 років тому

    You have to provide us the material and diameter of the wire you used , and also the distance of the wire.
    Ex.
    Distance = 100 feet , Wire Material = Copper , Wire diameter = 26AWG (0.4 mm) , Voltage = 25v , Phase = DC , load current = 1.3 Amps
    Results
    Voltage drop: 10.61
    Voltage drop percentage: 42.44%
    Voltage at the end: 14.39
    You should not use a battery as load because the resistance of the battery is changing when you change it.
    Imagine if you want to transfer 25v and 10 amps (250watts) you need a wire fat as you finger to achieve 1% voltage drop.
    Practically we dont transfer low dc voltage energy for more than 1 to 3 meters . Do the test again close to your house and use car bulds as load .

  • @samratdeb
    @samratdeb 7 років тому +4

    Just use a ceiling fan and add some magnets around the coil. You will get awesome volts.

  • @MersyyLife
    @MersyyLife 2 роки тому

    Have you seen the wind turbine Kris Harbour Natural building made? He can get something crazy like 1300w in high winds and about 500w in average winds, the mast failed and it dropped down and hit something and exploded the blades catastrophically, but, the power he got was insane, it was an axial flux generator

  • @tonybalm1513
    @tonybalm1513 5 років тому +2

    Long cables = Resistance = Voltage drop + Current (Ohms Law)

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  5 років тому

      Read video description, cable loss was calculated less than 5%

  • @questforfreedom5962
    @questforfreedom5962 7 років тому +2

    could you try this also with a much shorter wire ? to see if you have great losses in your long cable

  • @oooodanieloooo
    @oooodanieloooo 6 років тому +239

    Wan't green energy, cut down a tree I must... WTF?

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  6 років тому +31

      Kanuka's love a good prune, the tree is alive and thriving

    • @grizzly9960
      @grizzly9960 6 років тому +8

      If you said this like Yoda its the best comment on here lol

    • @schwartz664
      @schwartz664 6 років тому +7

      Wood is renewable energy, I supplement my heating, with a wood furnace/boiler.

    • @SuperJlonergan
      @SuperJlonergan 6 років тому +16

      oh no he trimmed a tree......

    • @95SlideNissan
      @95SlideNissan 5 років тому +1

      He sacrificed Clean Air the tree makes and Shade just for 32 watts what a fool

  • @Anthroplast
    @Anthroplast 7 років тому +1

    also some loctite thread glue on those nuts n bolts would be safer before you drench it in anti-rust spray

  • @liamhoanzl2920
    @liamhoanzl2920 3 роки тому +2

    Hi is it still working ?

  • @laoluu
    @laoluu 4 роки тому +1

    The 1.3A @ 25V are the DC output for charging a battery, right? But - - you still have the 3-phase AC from the turbine. Did you connect anything there, aside from the battery charger? You'd probably get extra power from there.

  • @TrickyNekro
    @TrickyNekro 6 років тому

    As it's typical for Chinese products, probably yes the motor is 400w at max output but don't expect to get 400w out of it running as a generator. Plus as others said there are "probably" many things wrong with that installation. If the price is right though I would buy one, just to play around though...

  • @DanielDominguez-ml8ug
    @DanielDominguez-ml8ug 4 роки тому +1

    Chinese controllers dont usually work properly. Measure the output voltage on the controller without connecting it to the batteries.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  4 роки тому

      Yes I tried that, still low output but ac instead of dc

    • @DanielDominguez-ml8ug
      @DanielDominguez-ml8ug 4 роки тому

      @@MartyT I bought the 24v wind turbine on Aliexpress in November, and they have already sent me 3 controllers, and with the test, none of them goes beyond 10v. The next thing I'm going to try is to put a bridge of diodes (I don't know if in English it says like this ...)
      Like this: es.aliexpress.com/item/32915224743.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.25.65f14774QGwayT&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.128125.0&scm_id=1007.13338.128125.0&scm-url=1007.13338.128125.0&pvid=ae7d0105-7d2d-4ef7-84f0-3ca6fb09c1b0

  • @wtbofnc7880
    @wtbofnc7880 6 років тому +1

    How long was the power cable? You lose a significant amount of power over long distances.

  • @dguy-xk4fc
    @dguy-xk4fc 7 років тому +1

    WOW now that is a good test i almost bought one of these.. i did not expect it to work that bad this is rediculous! Thanks a lot this is some gold info man.

  • @ExperienceCN
    @ExperienceCN 6 років тому +3

    Many street lamps in china have this wind turbines. They all broke down after a few weeks

  • @mickbmx
    @mickbmx 6 років тому

    Thanks for the vid. Guess solar is better if you don’t have land or a stream.

  • @pcamanagementservicessrl2564
    @pcamanagementservicessrl2564 5 років тому +1

    the same happened to me with a 500 watt 24vdc it is really disappointing and frustrating web market should make sure product they place on their webpages have a true output, I bought a Happy wind turbine and requested to be refunded I have a piece of junk with no use, I will keep searching for a working one, the worst is that they even place false review on their product line.

  • @shirazenema3228
    @shirazenema3228 6 років тому +1

    So ive seen many of these turbines bearings fail due to excessive wind, is there a clutch of some sort for this situation?

  • @wilfredokaw756
    @wilfredokaw756 6 років тому

    What is good for you is that your purchase was delivered to you by Ali express. I bought the same thing last November of 2016 and the unit did not arrived. I lost around almost 350US$ I guess (Cannot remember anymmore). I kept on emailing them asking for refund but failed. Guys better not pruchase from this source you may end up the same with my experience.

  • @cam2239A
    @cam2239A 4 роки тому +1

    you could throw it in the creek and use it as water driven turbine for a minute

  • @FJ80Coop
    @FJ80Coop 3 роки тому

    Ive watched quite a few of these wind generator videos and not a single one of them has ever approached 20% of the manufacturers rated output and when you add in the loss due to wiring,distance etc Ive concluded that they're really not worth the money or effort to procure and install... Solar panel foe the win unless one has a good stream that can be dammed up and a sluice added to spin a water generator that would make juice 24/7...

  • @kesavareddy1476
    @kesavareddy1476 7 років тому

    Because of these small wind Mills,so many birds are dying.

  • @jhue6337
    @jhue6337 7 років тому

    Thanks for the video.... you should return the turbine to the manufacturer and get your money back.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  7 років тому

      It took so long to arrive, my return window had closed before I had a chance to test the turbine

  • @dennisdulfo6448
    @dennisdulfo6448 5 років тому

    you misunderstood the concept, the wind turbine will charge your battery 400 watts rating , use inverter so you can used 400 watts AC power not directly to the turbine . " charge controller + battery + inverter = AC power "

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  5 років тому

      Incorrect. I have wired up the generator as recommended in the instructions - wind turbine - controller - dc battery - ac inverter

  • @Luong_Thien_Hung1988
    @Luong_Thien_Hung1988 5 років тому

    Thank you. Your video is very cool and useful. My name is Thien Hung, I am in Vietnam. Glad to be friends with you.

    • @myspace5671
      @myspace5671 5 років тому

      Lol bro, you that lonely...!.?..

  • @pcamanagementservicessrl2564
    @pcamanagementservicessrl2564 5 років тому +1

    I couldn't agree more Marty.

  • @matthewellul1259
    @matthewellul1259 6 років тому +1

    Worth assembling on the decking? I would be concerned about screws falling between the boards

  • @sarveshagal1122
    @sarveshagal1122 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the unbiased review. 👍☺️

  • @ArchitectJacinto
    @ArchitectJacinto 7 років тому

    10 ms wind is 36 km/h speed.. should deliver much more. thanks for sharing

  • @debendragurung3033
    @debendragurung3033 7 років тому +1

    The only electronic u should buy from AliExpress is mobile Phone cases. By the way how can you expect 400watts from blades that size.? Besides, the cost of installing wind turbine generator of capacity 1kw or lower, isn't justifiable enough to even exist except for experiments and hobby. Wind turbines doesn't scale up linearly, but exponentially with increase in diameter.