Seek Outside Cimarron: An owner's unbiased review
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Backfire reviews the Seek Outside Cimarron Tipi Tent with the medium stove and carbon fiber pole. Overall, this is a really well-made tent and a good option for many hunts since it's so lightweight; however, the tipi shape also has quite a few drawbacks that not enough people talk about.
I have a Recliff (big brother to the Cimarron), and a SXL stove. I use it for cold weather hunts. A few tips: use rocks/gravel/dirt/snow on the tipi skirt. I bring a silky saw and cut wrist size branches, so they burn longer. I also purchased the improved dampener for between the pipe and stove. Get a hot fire rolling then dampen the front vent and the pipe dampener so the fire is just smoldering. This gives off heat for about 4 hours. Halfway thru the night I'll wakeup, open the dampeners, add more wood, and go back to sleep for 4 more hours.
Curious on the carbon monoxide issue if the skirts are sealed to the ground? Still ventilate well?
Very honest review. I have the Cimarron as well and the Large stove (which is the next size up from yours). The issue of burn time is pretty closely tied to the quality of wood being used. Two things you can do that will help: Try to plan on arriving earlier before you plan to hunt so that you can spend a little more time on wood prep. Larger and thicker pieces of quality wood burn longer that little sticks and twigs. I have a lite weight saw that I carry that can be used to cut larger pieces. Also, if I know exactly where I am going to be camping I will backpack in a week or two beforehand and spend an entire afternoon cutting and prepping wood and then cover it so that it is protected from rain. I realize that I run the risk of having someone else find my wood, but if you pack back into the lonely spots I do then that is not much of a risk. Finding quality wood is key.
I agree 100%...I even took in a small propane heater and e bottles of propane to supplement as well as a hatchet and lightweight backrest camping chair. Stashed them in a camo 5 gallon bucket along with precut firewood. Hunting solo is tough but when successful its a huge feeling of accomplishment!!
It is so great to see a real review for the Seek system instead of the usual fanboys talking about their superior hard coreness and grit etc. Keep up the outstanding content!
Carbon monoxide from a wood stove isn't an issue. If there's no smoke in your tent, there's no CO; the combustion products go out the stack.
hey man. the stove pipe goes in the back.
I think the true beauty of a hot tent is the ability to dry out all of your gear!!
When the IT guy does a backcountry tent review 😂
Thanks for the reveiw.
Looks like the stove door is at the wrong end, should be opposite the pipe?
Would burn better that way.
If I'm using my 8 man with my stove (I have a large), I always have the tipi tight to the ground. I'm pretty certain the manufacturer does NOT recommend that you leave a gap at the bottom for air flow when using a stove, because it's not necessary and because, as you pointed out, it partially defeats its purpose.
None of stoves will last long if you're not constantly feeding them. If I recall, mine will last about 45 minutes, but don't quote me on that. It's been a while since I've used the stove.
It was recommended to me to go one size up the suggested size stove for the shelter.
Good review. I have the large uturn stove and can get a good 2 hours of comforting heat out of it but I get it rolling before and load it up. And the two hour mark it gets cold pretty quick. Also you have the stove pipe in the wrong side. It should be opposite of the door and intake, helps pull air through the stove and out the pipe.
My biggest complaints with the tent are: 1. It’s a pain in the ass to setup sometimes. 2. Some things are just overbuilt and unnecessary and could save some weight(the zipper cover is a little much, and the zipper itself is overkill compared to other ultralight tents I’ve used or seen.) something I’d love to see from seek is a lighter tent fabric something like 20d and some accessory loops to hang a lantern inside and maybe dual vents one low one high so you can pitch it lower with less worries.
They do, it's the ultralight models that come in Dyneema.
So this year before I paid $800 dollars for a tipi tent i wanted to see if i even liked the whole floorless/stove combo thing as ive never tried it, so I did buy an expensive stove from Lite Outdoors the bigger cylinder stove but I got one of the cheap no name brand 4 person tipis, on my 9 day elk hunt in rained the majority of the time and that cheap 200 dollar tent did not leak at all, hardly any condensation, it kept the heat it, didnt let a draft in, the zippers all held up, didnt tear, it basically performed flawlessly. The only negative is the stakes are rather cheap and I bent one. but thats it. So now im very happy I didnt waste 800 dollars on a tent and it confirmed my suspicion of the high dollar tipis being gimmicks.
Which tent did you end up with
@@keanubeju from Amazon its called the Vilemoon tipi hot tent 3-4 person, with a stove its pretty cramped for two guys but we did it. i think it would be awesome for a solo guy and his gear
Well camping on top of a barren ridge like that is not ideal for this setup. Draft will be huge and stove will not perform as well. Plus they’re not supposed to last all night, it’s not a 500lb cast iron stove
Check out the Peax tipi tent easiest and nicest I have seen
Seek can factory seem seal if you pay extra. It actually kind of evens out in price vs doing it yourself. You have to have that dyneema fabric version too, otherwise it isn't worth it via the weight in my opinion. Get the largest stove as well, the medium stove won't cut it.
These stoves are game changers. I think your review was done with little experience using them
Those stoves are not intended for overnight sustained use. They serve a couple of purposes: Dry out wet gear, warm you up a bit in the evening/morning when you're getting in/out of your sleeping bag, boil some water for meals/coffee. Outside of that if you want an overnight burning stove, you're not going to accomplish that with a small backpacking wood stove.
Any issues with condensation with three people in it? I’m worried about touching the sides with three people and a stove?
I think its a very honest review.
Love mine!!
Holy Jack! Haha love your stuff brotha this dude needs to use real hardwood logs aka firewood lol 😆✊🔥✌️💚
@@Canadian_Craftsman hardwood for the win!
I hate the door on the seek stoves. Falls off and you fill the tent with smoke. Especially when starting up a new fire. The collar doesn’t engage with the top of the stove very well. It leaks, moves, generally just a sense of frailty. Nothing to hold the pipe to the stove other than the little steel ring. Bump the stove hood and you have embers flying around the inside of the tent. It’s a pain to assemble. It’s just a mess.
Nice review appreciate the honesty about the stove lol
Draft doesn’t help when it’s pitched on the top of a mountain.
Thanks for reviewing. Did you like the head room or would you want more?
It has ample headroom.
Sounds like you didn't do the research on what those stove's limitations are. They aren't designed to work as a regular stove. They are for drying gear and rewarming after a cold day out hunting. Always carry a bag rated for the temps you are going to face. To think a lightweight ti stove is gonna hold heat all night is pretty comical. They're merely another tool in the toolbox.
My large works well but you have to feed it often.
Exactly. And who leaves a gap at the bottom? You just slightly leave a gap at the door. That's it. The stove is worth it whenever you are not close to your truck or basecamp and if there is a chance of bad weather, like about 50+% during late September and early October in the Mountains. If you got caught in a rainstorm and temperature sinks, you will be dry and ready thenext morning.
I love the stove in mine. Yeah, it only burns for a half hour if all you have is pine and aspen and you aren't feeding it, but after hiking up the mountain in 3ft of fresh snow, that's all I really needed before I went to sleep. It was like hitting a reset button and fixed my "this sucks" attitude.
Condensation inside the tent is a nightmare. You stand up inside the tent and if you touch the tent at all, you get soaked. Not waterproof at all. (Not sure if they advertised it as such, just letting everyone know!) Summer backpacking trips, it's a great tent.
Any thoughts on taking a tent like this to Alaska caribou hunting?
It depends on how windy and wet. I used mine in Colorado this year in 3ft of snow and -5°F lows and it worked just fine. Stove was great for knocking off the cold before I crawled in my bag. BUT I was able to set up camp out of the wind.
Somewhere with a lot of rain or where I can't get mostly out of the wind, I'd go with a double-wall tent with a floor. Tipi's are a lot lighter than double-walled tents, but you've got to bank on at least a little bit of a draft.
Beautiful but so expensive. Perfect for very tall people like me. Room for days and the weight is low
I think you can have seek seal the seams!