6:40 imagining a Stark warrior having a pre-battle ritual of consuming the sap, communing with the 'old gods' all night, entering battle in an almost trance like frenzy, with their wolves, she-bears and shadowcats savaging their enemies is so awesome
We will be introduced to a warlock named C'lee who the reformed Sand Door will fall in love with. At their marriage ceremony before the Heart tree, the septon will say something to the effect of "we are not losing a warrior, but gaining a great magician" as Sandor and C'lee jump over the firey ditch together, the frozen sentinels will finally awaken and raise a great cry of "C'leegained! C'leegained!"
If magic consumes its user, then what if the greenseers' features (green skin, antlers) are the consequences of using green magic? Even if a greenseer's actual transformation doesn't make them look like Garth Greenhand, they definitely turn into worm food like Bloodraven and join the hive mind.
Youve opened my eyes to so much symbolism in these books. I admire GRRM so much more now, not only for being so great at prose, but also for how much depth the world building has
🎉 I'm surprised you're up so early, I just got this notification on my phone at about 7 AM, I'm super impressed, I loved yesterday's stream, so as always, listening to this on my way to work this morning😊
i listen to these streams while playing minecraft 2b2t, being a menace hunting everybodies bases telling them no one is safe i have a thousand eyes and one
David Lightbringer, there is a flower with a medicinal root called Valerian. How would this symbol fit into the story? It's an herb, the flowers die and the thing can be cut at the root and be born again in the spring and flower again. It is used for sleep (wake the sleepers?) And it's used for anxiety, depression and other things when the nervous system needs to be calmed. It stinks...but it does help sleep SOME. What do you make of this? Being cut at the root and coming back seems like Dani. What do you make of this?.. Thanks and with Humanly Love, Anita Reason To Believe
So in elden ring blue water represents purity and flowing water while red water represents rot and stagnation. So maybe the blue lake tributaries dried up?
Nice to touch on stagnation also as a perhaps parallel theme depending on your interpretation of the Weirwood magic. Assuming you've played Sekiro or are at least familiar with it somewhat, stagnation is one of the primary themes and is shown as a source of impurity. Which makes sense considering that concept's importance both in Fromsoft games and Japanese mythos
@@ThommyofThenn yes I was thinking along those lines. David often talks about the bifurcation of the weirnet. If the bloody blade “blood” isn’t from sacrifice as he theorizes, then perhaps the hammer caused rivers to dry up. The red lake being “rotten” could be symbolic of the weirnets “rot” now that it has been desecrated.
The significance of the "Wolves" in the North reminds me a lot of an iconic passage written by Aldo Leopold (whom George is likely very aware): "We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes - something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters’ paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view." The wolves mean balance. A strong north means one where the wolves rule with the fierce green fire in their eyes.
The Tower of Joy by Mike Miller goes hard. I think were are to see a "trinity" of three different aspects of the original Other(s) here: A dragon, an Old One and the wielder of the Magic Sword(tm). Oh, you point this out in the Beric section as well.
I love how numerous times you've said like the craziest ASOIAF theory I've ever heard and then 20 minutes later I'm like "welp yep that's actually the only viable explanation isn't it"
When I first read the line that Jon was armoured all in black ice, I thought it was dragon glass armour cuz dragon glass is always described as black ice. It’s not super strong but maybe the others swords can’t harm it??
So generally it’s believed Bran will be king in the end. If he now has Weirwood growing inside him from the Jojen paste won’t he soon be rooted somewhere? Anchoring him in position like bloodraven or did bloodraven only root towards the end of his natural lifespan? If he is anchored how does he King? By worging?
Great video ! Thank you By the way, if you are disheartened by the numbers for the ice spiders video, regardless of my opinion of it, I think the fact that it's name is "Ice spiders" with an ice spider as a miniature, makes everyone going through your videos think it is just a video talking about a strange animal, when you are taking some time to push forward something else. To me you need to watch the video to know it is interesting, but for that you need to stumble on to it. Another title and miniature would change it's perception quite a lot in my opinion. Have a nice day, from France
i REALLY wish we could get a flash back of Eurons dream when Bloodraven came to him, i thought the ice spires symbolically and maybe literally killed the greenseer but more importantly destroys the power within that person, im probably wrong but how else could Euron have survived the fall if it really does kill u? what if his dream led him to jump out off a spot that was over the ocean so when he fell he landed in the water and ended up doing the drowned ritual after that breif connection to the net he felt like he had the knowledge of a god and maybe he kinda did gain some kinda deeper understanding of the magic on planetos
QUESTION: was listening to a documentary-there was a 18 month visible comet in 1997 in San Francisco. I had never heard about this. Very much reminds me of Daenerys’s comet visuals. Do you know about this? Is there connection there?
All this warging and green seeing probably explains why the Citadel has been battling against magic. The end of dragons must’ve disrupted some ancient pact, or balance between magic and reason? Idk, but the old powers are waking to perhaps restore the balance. Do you think Jon’s essence, or soul, made it into Ghost? So that when the Others take control it isn’t really him? He’ll be thought of as evil, like Night’s King? Bro! You’ve probably hit on it! Calling them White ‘Walkers’ totally distracts from the tree teleportation device! We know dragons don’t like the wall, won’t fly over it.
This was one of the best experience of understanding the Way to Close this wonderful Tale. George must secretly loving you with smile on his face and in his heart. Thank you 😊❤
Has anyone connected the right of the first night to sacrificing babies to the others? It's a perfect way to farm babies if no one wants the babies around in the first place
I believe Ghost is going to die to resurrect Jon. We were shown a similar practice on how to resurrect someone with Khal Drogo and Marie Mazdur, so simply reviving Jon isn't enough. They'll have to move Ghosts+ Jon's consciousness from the dire wolfs body and back into Jon's skin in order to restore him properly, and in doing so, Ghosts skin/body will used as a sacrifice. Since Jon and his wolves consciousness is together, Ghost shall be communicating with Jon even though he has 'died', fulfilling his name as Ghost.
57:28 Ice + Fire zombie = hot tub zombie? Essentially I think all the magic is the "same" in a way, only cooked up to different states of aggregation (solid, liquid, air, plasma)
1:13:07 In addition to the Atreides's patriarch, you might find a fruitful connection between "Vorian" and "Vortigern," the fellow that Uther Pendragon is supposed to have defeated to become king. Otherwise it doesn't seem to be a name people use.
oh man jon leading them thru the wall makes so much sense i was just looking at that episode, it made no sense for the dragon to be what gets them thru the wall it made no sense for jon to go to get an other to negotiate with cersei cause that wouldnt have happened IF they negotiate terms it wont be for a temporary truce dany will have the entire army and dragons her fleet there to show the full extent of her power because shes gonna believe thats the only way whoever holds kings landing will ever see theyve lost, it will parallel mances march of the 100,000 on the wall, thats gonna happen with or without negotiations, i think, and if its cersei the wildfire is gonna be used and possibly jamie has to kill cersei and he will fall on his sword after. if faegon has kings landing man idek wat to expect, fr u may be right on old man with faegon may be one to go all out and burn the city i definitely do not believe it will be dany. i dont think the long night is gonna stop at winterfell, i think its gonna be all the way down to the trident u made very good points about it having last hero symbology around it like bobby bs battle with rhaegar on the trident, like maybe that parallels the last battle to end the last long night. i promise i wont comment no more ill edit the ones i already put up im sorry i blew the comments up. n im not quite even an hour in this one is a banger, i gotta stop or ill have wrote a book by the end of video, THANK YOU ik its alot to read i dont expect to answer my rambling a** but i love your work and thank you!
@@DavidLightbringer - No I mean is this the same content as the White Walker Iceberg you posted a little while ago, I think it was earlier this year? :)
I went ahead and watched and I absolutely love this video! Quite possibly my favourite ASOIAF sub-topic. There's AMPLE material to make a Long Night TV series (but based on this and not whatever Blood Moon was!) I love the idea of dual swords, a black one and a white one!
How is Darkstar going to steal Dawn from Starfall? if no one has ever done it in at least 8k years Is there any precedent in ASoIaF of someone stealing Dawn from Starfall?
I was listening to the part where the dreamers fell on icy spikes. Now I just dabble in the lore so I'm probably wrong: Huron is a dreamer. He may have fallen. Which means he could be undead or enthralled or an other somehow. But he went to old valeria. So his ice may have thawed. Into, water. And instead of dragons or ice dragons, he has krakens. Dragons of the deep. It's also where the deep ones and others could meet somehow. In one person. Both their goals in one. Merged but different pulls so he's crazy. Just taken by one current then another. With fire and ice battling, water will rise.
Off topic but I was looking at the known world map of the world of Ice and fire and couldn't help but notice the saffron straights between asshai and ulthos. A strait connects two large bodies of water. Combine this with GRRM calling his large bodies of water seas and the indigo straits connecting the sunset and summer seas, can we not reasonably assume that on the other side of asshai, ulthosand the saffron straits is another large sea?
@@DavidLightbringer I didn't even know they had an official calendar until I saw your green weirwoods vid, I'd love to see more art from them in future vids!
I might just be too tired right now but it feels like you spend the video up by 5 -10%. Your cadence and gestures feel off. Anyways, I am headed to White Walker Land. Appreciate you duder.
oh you're not wrong I definitely cut out a lot of the dead air in order to make it go faster. That's the point of the edit, in part. some of that is taste as far as how fast you want your podcaster to talk so apologies if it was a little fast for you
In the October calendar with the ice spiders, the rider in the back left looks like he has a crown shaped head, rather than as the other Others having ice helmets on.
the obvious comparison to the potential Oily Black Stone in the Heart of Winter which corrupts the surrounding area would be the meteorite from *The Color out of Space *
I’m not sure how often you check comments on older videos, but the discussions about Dune got me thinking about what the maesters might REALLY be up to. I’ve had this head cannon for awhile that they have a hidden agenda involving the manipulation of lineages, consolidating the Targaryen, Stark, and Dayne bloodlines. It’s clear that the maesters share similarities with the Bene Gesserit. Both are these shadowy organizations that wield immense influence on the lords they serve. They both rely on knowledge and subtle manipulation to shape the world around them. While the Bene Gesserit’s goal is to produce the Kwisatz Haderach, the maesters may have been working (knowingly or unknowingly) to create a similar “hero” by merging the most magical houses to confront and destroy the existential threat of the White Walkers. I realize that many believe that the maesters main goal is to suppress/make magic go extinct, SO, I believe that consolidating magical bloodlines to produce a savior might ultimately destroy the world of magic. Magic in Westeros is deeply tied to both dragons (fire) and the White Walkers (ice), and it’s clear neither ever truly went extinct. This raises an interesting question for me: if one of these forces were completely destroyed, would magic itself cease to exist? Could the balance between ice and fire be essential for magic’s survival? We’ve seen how the White Walkers’ resurgence coincided with the reawakening of dragons, both seemingly tied to the arrival of the red comet. This suggests that ice and fire are two sides of the same coin, intrinsically linked and perhaps dependent on each other. If that’s the case, the elimination of either force could have catastrophic consequences for the magical fabric of the world. I dont believe that they are just passive record-keepers but I believe they are active players in the world’s most critical events. I think it’s exactly like George to make the maesters’ supposed mission to destroy magic but by actively keeping it alive until the right moment, for sure plays with his tendency to subvert expectations…for me at least! Thought I’d toss it out there 🤷
question... lol i was watching the series on hbo again and idk why i didnt think about this before, where in the hell did they get those monstrous anchor chains to pull the dragon out the lake with? maybe they meant them to be ice chains but they was metal how they forging links of chain like that? and in the series when tyrion is in the sky cell and morde is coming in to beat him with the club, the club is leather pillow i only noticed on the 3rd time of watching it but once u see the seams in the leather u cant unsee it
I know Frozen came out two years after A Dance with Dragons, let alone any of the others, and thus couldn't influence ASOIAF, but I find it kind of hilarious that all the art of Val kinda resembles Elsa, especially given her being unbothered by what some other characters consider cold.
Hay do u think that because Jamie lost his hand and it made him a better person then brend is related to sir Duncan the tall she will lose her foot and symbols with them to cause as they lose a part of them self it cause a change in personality or belief?
Off topic but is there a legitimate reason that dany couldn't control/communicate with her two young dragons after she chained them. I'd like to think just because she was not born with the eggs but she's mother of dragons?
Unrelated to the others but have you spoke about the fact Varys kind of mirrors gendry in terms of being blood sacrificed due to kings blood? Secret blackfyre
Random comment about Ned and co being “grey wraiths”: the Night’s Watch blacks turn grey with age so symbolically this perhaps supports your claims about the original watch being undead and therefore long lived. I think there is a description of Coldhands wearing worn out no longer black blacks
6:40 imagining a Stark warrior having a pre-battle ritual of consuming the sap, communing with the 'old gods' all night, entering battle in an almost trance like frenzy, with their wolves, she-bears and shadowcats savaging their enemies is so awesome
2 videos in 2 days, Praise Garth
ice spiders video is how I found your channel, I love it!
bless you my child
As a non anglophone sometimes when I hear "other" I understand "azor" so yep, theories confirmed, I'm all in
Other=Azor Ahai
Mother=Mazor Mhai
Lady Stoneheart is Azor Ahai, confirmed
For the same reason, i thought that 'Wights' were 'Whites'
Glad there are ways anyone can experience ASOIAF in the best possible way for them
@@pawekoodziejczyk6781 M'hysa *tips fedora*
The last hero's journey has all the content required to make a country song. He lost his girl friend, his dog ran away, and his truck broke down.
The stream yesterday now this? We’re eating we’re feasting 💯💯💯
A Feast For Nerds
A Dance With Davids
A Storm of Streams
A Clash of Cleos
A Game of Garth
Just finished a re-read of the series. So many of these theories and explanations hit different now that the story is so fresh in my mind. Good stuff.
First Night: Alyssayne outlawing FN not only makes her popular, but also reduces the possible spread of greenseers.
Ummm. Only if you think the king has the greenseer blood.
Otherwise he's likely mating with non-greenseers
Im feeling spoiled with these uploads 🤘
Your faith has been rewarded. Garth's blessings upon thee
Maybe Sandor Clegan will hold a " sand door"
We will be introduced to a warlock named C'lee who the reformed Sand Door will fall in love with. At their marriage ceremony before the Heart tree, the septon will say something to the effect of "we are not losing a warrior, but gaining a great magician" as Sandor and C'lee jump over the firey ditch together, the frozen sentinels will finally awaken and raise a great cry of "C'leegained! C'leegained!"
If magic consumes its user, then what if the greenseers' features (green skin, antlers) are the consequences of using green magic? Even if a greenseer's actual transformation doesn't make them look like Garth Greenhand, they definitely turn into worm food like Bloodraven and join the hive mind.
Updating art is a fantastic idea, David. I'll relisten and absorb like a paper towel every time.
I think this has updated art because it was taken down yesterday. I was in the middle of watching it when it suddenly disappeared.
He mentioned accidentally posting it a day before he intended. It was up for about 45 minutes, so you're just extra awesome@@arsenicjones9125
@@arsenicjones9125I knew there was a notification yesterday! I knew I wasn't imagining it!!
yeah Bumbo with the quality of art being done it really is worth it
@ThommyofThenn yooo did you see the 40k art at 4:30?!!
Best part of this video is when Dave is explaining something about Val, stops and says, "Symbolism baby" : )
I believe it was, "and that's why Val has honeyed colored hair."
My day off,cleaning my house,listening to this,getting so much done because I'm enjoying this so much...priceless. Thank you .
Youve opened my eyes to so much symbolism in these books. I admire GRRM so much more now, not only for being so great at prose, but also for how much depth the world building has
Absolute banger of a video, my friend 🎉
Finally made an account as I’ve watched all your videos and wanted to say thank you
Great edit, thanks for doing this Dave 🐉
Love your Icebergs David, gonna rewatch the first part right quick before this :D Praise Garth
Yay! Started it yesterday will continue today
Seven blessings on you! This was perfect for my deep cleaning day.
🎉 I'm surprised you're up so early, I just got this notification on my phone at about 7 AM, I'm super impressed, I loved yesterday's stream, so as always, listening to this on my way to work this morning😊
i never sleep Farah you know that
@@DavidLightbringer you are remarkably lucid and interesting having no sleep🤭
great stream to listen to while reaping the harvest!
corn! king!
i listen to these streams while playing minecraft 2b2t, being a menace hunting everybodies bases telling them no one is safe i have a thousand eyes and one
David Lightbringer, there is a flower with a medicinal root called Valerian. How would this symbol fit into the story? It's an herb, the flowers die and the thing can be cut at the root and be born again in the spring and flower again. It is used for sleep (wake the sleepers?) And it's used for anxiety, depression and other things when the nervous system needs to be calmed. It stinks...but it does help sleep SOME. What do you make of this? Being cut at the root and coming back seems like Dani. What do you make of this?..
Thanks and with Humanly Love, Anita Reason To Believe
So in elden ring blue water represents purity and flowing water while red water represents rot and stagnation. So maybe the blue lake tributaries dried up?
Also the "unalloyed" (pure) gold needle being a way to cleanse a terrible curse
Nice to touch on stagnation also as a perhaps parallel theme depending on your interpretation of the Weirwood magic. Assuming you've played Sekiro or are at least familiar with it somewhat, stagnation is one of the primary themes and is shown as a source of impurity. Which makes sense considering that concept's importance both in Fromsoft games and Japanese mythos
@@ThommyofThenn yes I was thinking along those lines. David often talks about the bifurcation of the weirnet. If the bloody blade “blood” isn’t from sacrifice as he theorizes, then perhaps the hammer caused rivers to dry up. The red lake being “rotten” could be symbolic of the weirnets “rot” now that it has been desecrated.
@@christianlaw1992 Interesting. Hope you can catch the next livestream as we will be discussing this in more depth!
I very much appreciate these edited versions. 👍
2 videos back to back! The Lord of Light has blessed us haha
The significance of the "Wolves" in the North reminds me a lot of an iconic passage written by Aldo Leopold (whom George is likely very aware): "We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes - something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters’ paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view."
The wolves mean balance. A strong north means one where the wolves rule with the fierce green fire in their eyes.
lol nice I went to have my 3 hour long background mind dribble on but then it was GONE! Thnx for bringing it back
ahhh the others & a good breakfast, what a hearty combo to start my week. 😎
So much beautiful art!! Elle Annes was especially beautiful. ❤😊
yes I LOVER her NQ art! check out my OG Nights Queen videos if you want more NA stuff :)
Praise Garth
Burning a plant (to smoke it like a loser) doesn’t seem like a good way to praise someone who loved plants lmao
@@cald1421 Who?
@@copyninja8756 you
watching from work as always
The Tower of Joy by Mike Miller goes hard. I think were are to see a "trinity" of three different aspects of the original Other(s) here: A dragon, an Old One and the wielder of the Magic Sword(tm). Oh, you point this out in the Beric section as well.
you've convinced me on ice spiders
I love how numerous times you've said like the craziest ASOIAF theory I've ever heard and then 20 minutes later I'm like "welp yep that's actually the only viable explanation isn't it"
🫡🫡🫡
12 blue flowers on house Florent sigil, like the 12 companions of the last hero....
I have fallen in love with your icebergs❤
When I first read the line that Jon was armoured all in black ice, I thought it was dragon glass armour cuz dragon glass is always described as black ice. It’s not super strong but maybe the others swords can’t harm it??
Dorne has alot of dune references
So generally it’s believed Bran will be king in the end. If he now has Weirwood growing inside him from the Jojen paste won’t he soon be rooted somewhere? Anchoring him in position like bloodraven or did bloodraven only root towards the end of his natural lifespan? If he is anchored how does he King? By worging?
Very much enjoying the remastered icebergs. They’re concise, cohesive and super compelling, and also very fun to watch. You produce very good tv dude
Great video ! Thank you
By the way, if you are disheartened by the numbers for the ice spiders video, regardless of my opinion of it, I think the fact that it's name is "Ice spiders" with an ice spider as a miniature, makes everyone going through your videos think it is just a video talking about a strange animal, when you are taking some time to push forward something else. To me you need to watch the video to know it is interesting, but for that you need to stumble on to it. Another title and miniature would change it's perception quite a lot in my opinion.
Have a nice day, from France
i REALLY wish we could get a flash back of Eurons dream when Bloodraven came to him, i thought the ice spires symbolically and maybe literally killed the greenseer but more importantly destroys the power within that person, im probably wrong but how else could Euron have survived the fall if it really does kill u? what if his dream led him to jump out off a spot that was over the ocean so when he fell he landed in the water and ended up doing the drowned ritual after that breif connection to the net he felt like he had the knowledge of a god and maybe he kinda did gain some kinda deeper understanding of the magic on planetos
2:09:51 who doesnt like Val? Dan and Dave for two...
I like your name 😂
@FindingFaith-fz3og it's a VERY old joke based on TV Jorah after he was banished.
Ahhh finally I can finish this stream lol
QUESTION: was listening to a documentary-there was a 18 month visible comet in 1997 in San Francisco. I had never heard about this. Very much reminds me of Daenerys’s comet visuals. Do you know about this? Is there connection there?
One of the best.
All this warging and green seeing probably explains why the Citadel has been battling against magic. The end of dragons must’ve disrupted some ancient pact, or balance between magic and reason? Idk, but the old powers are waking to perhaps restore the balance.
Do you think Jon’s essence, or soul, made it into Ghost? So that when the Others take control it isn’t really him? He’ll be thought of as evil, like Night’s King?
Bro! You’ve probably hit on it! Calling them White ‘Walkers’ totally distracts from the tree teleportation device!
We know dragons don’t like the wall, won’t fly over it.
This was one of the best experience of understanding the Way to Close this wonderful Tale. George must secretly loving you with smile on his face and in his heart. Thank you 😊❤
I was half way through and it disappeared! back and better.
praise David 🙏
been binging this channel while playing bannerlord realm of thrones mod, some good soup
Oof that new intro music was banging 👌 🔥
1:47:23 I love the ice spider video so much. I've watched it and listened to the podcast like 3 times lol
Worth watching again.
Night Queen is an ice sorceress?
Frozen is a Song of Ice and Fire prequel and Elsa is the Night Queen is now canon.
Thank you!
Last day's video was awesome.
Has anyone connected the right of the first night to sacrificing babies to the others? It's a perfect way to farm babies if no one wants the babies around in the first place
Michael Talks About Stuff covered this.
p2 is fire!!
I believe Ghost is going to die to resurrect Jon. We were shown a similar practice on how to resurrect someone with Khal Drogo and Marie Mazdur, so simply reviving Jon isn't enough. They'll have to move Ghosts+ Jon's consciousness from the dire wolfs body and back into Jon's skin in order to restore him properly, and in doing so, Ghosts skin/body will used as a sacrifice. Since Jon and his wolves consciousness is together, Ghost shall be communicating with Jon even though he has 'died', fulfilling his name as Ghost.
57:28 Ice + Fire zombie = hot tub zombie? Essentially I think all the magic is the "same" in a way, only cooked up to different states of aggregation (solid, liquid, air, plasma)
29:25 female others could be like Ent-wives from LOTR, they existed but "left" one day
1:13:07 In addition to the Atreides's patriarch, you might find a fruitful connection between "Vorian" and "Vortigern," the fellow that Uther Pendragon is supposed to have defeated to become king. Otherwise it doesn't seem to be a name people use.
It's not you Dave, it's the creepy spiders.
oh man jon leading them thru the wall makes so much sense i was just looking at that episode, it made no sense for the dragon to be what gets them thru the wall it made no sense for jon to go to get an other to negotiate with cersei cause that wouldnt have happened IF they negotiate terms it wont be for a temporary truce dany will have the entire army and dragons her fleet there to show the full extent of her power because shes gonna believe thats the only way whoever holds kings landing will ever see theyve lost, it will parallel mances march of the 100,000 on the wall, thats gonna happen with or without negotiations, i think, and if its cersei the wildfire is gonna be used and possibly jamie has to kill cersei and he will fall on his sword after. if faegon has kings landing man idek wat to expect, fr u may be right on old man with faegon may be one to go all out and burn the city i definitely do not believe it will be dany. i dont think the long night is gonna stop at winterfell, i think its gonna be all the way down to the trident u made very good points about it having last hero symbology around it like bobby bs battle with rhaegar on the trident, like maybe that parallels the last battle to end the last long night. i promise i wont comment no more ill edit the ones i already put up im sorry i blew the comments up. n im not quite even an hour in this one is a banger, i gotta stop or ill have wrote a book by the end of video, THANK YOU ik its alot to read i dont expect to answer my rambling a** but i love your work and thank you!
(1:26:30 ) I'm convinced it's gonna be a red and a white sword at the end, song of ice and fire visualized🫢
Great vision Dave. Your da man!!
Been away from the Song for a spell
But now winter is coming
And I miss the pack🐺
Welcome back, Martin "Crow." 🎉 We missed you, too.
@@anorangetabby
You're an absolute sweetheart
Is part one missing?
nope it's there
Is this the same content as the original iceberg DL posted before? Or a completely new video?
This is the one I accidentally posted for an hour on Sunday morning if that's what you mean
@@DavidLightbringer - No I mean is this the same content as the White Walker Iceberg you posted a little while ago, I think it was earlier this year? :)
I went ahead and watched and I absolutely love this video! Quite possibly my favourite ASOIAF sub-topic.
There's AMPLE material to make a Long Night TV series (but based on this and not whatever Blood Moon was!)
I love the idea of dual swords, a black one and a white one!
Hey David, would you ever do a review/analysis of the Memory Sorrow and Thorn series? 🙏
Ra(y)Gar(th). = Light catcher?
How is Darkstar going to steal Dawn from Starfall? if no one has ever done it in at least 8k years
Is there any precedent in ASoIaF of someone stealing Dawn from Starfall?
I was listening to the part where the dreamers fell on icy spikes.
Now I just dabble in the lore so I'm probably wrong:
Huron is a dreamer. He may have fallen. Which means he could be undead or enthralled or an other somehow.
But he went to old valeria. So his ice may have thawed. Into, water.
And instead of dragons or ice dragons, he has krakens. Dragons of the deep.
It's also where the deep ones and others could meet somehow. In one person. Both their goals in one. Merged but different pulls so he's crazy. Just taken by one current then another.
With fire and ice battling, water will rise.
Seven Hells 🔥
For the algorithm, FOR THE WATCH 🥷
Awesome.
Off topic but I was looking at the known world map of the world of Ice and fire and couldn't help but notice the saffron straights between asshai and ulthos. A strait connects two large bodies of water. Combine this with GRRM calling his large bodies of water seas and the indigo straits connecting the sunset and summer seas, can we not reasonably assume that on the other side of asshai, ulthosand the saffron straits is another large sea?
Any thoughts on the Eddie Mendoza art from the 2025 calendar? Absolutely awesome depiction of Starfall
just that it's awesome
@@DavidLightbringer I didn't even know they had an official calendar until I saw your green weirwoods vid, I'd love to see more art from them in future vids!
I might just be too tired right now but it feels like you spend the video up by 5 -10%. Your cadence and gestures feel off. Anyways, I am headed to White Walker Land. Appreciate you duder.
oh you're not wrong I definitely cut out a lot of the dead air in order to make it go faster. That's the point of the edit, in part. some of that is taste as far as how fast you want your podcaster to talk so apologies if it was a little fast for you
In the October calendar with the ice spiders, the rider in the back left looks like he has a crown shaped head, rather than as the other Others having ice helmets on.
Praise Garth!!
Oh the bounty of late, thank you David!!
the obvious comparison to the potential Oily Black Stone in the Heart of Winter which corrupts the surrounding area would be the meteorite from *The Color out of Space *
Hey Dave are you into Warhammer by any chance?
I’m not sure how often you check comments on older videos, but the discussions about Dune got me thinking about what the maesters might REALLY be up to. I’ve had this head cannon for awhile that they have a hidden agenda involving the manipulation of lineages, consolidating the Targaryen, Stark, and Dayne bloodlines. It’s clear that the maesters share similarities with the Bene Gesserit. Both are these shadowy organizations that wield immense influence on the lords they serve. They both rely on knowledge and subtle manipulation to shape the world around them. While the Bene Gesserit’s goal is to produce the Kwisatz Haderach, the maesters may have been working (knowingly or unknowingly) to create a similar “hero” by merging the most magical houses to confront and destroy the existential threat of the White Walkers.
I realize that many believe that the maesters main goal is to suppress/make magic go extinct, SO, I believe that consolidating magical bloodlines to produce a savior might ultimately destroy the world of magic. Magic in Westeros is deeply tied to both dragons (fire) and the White Walkers (ice), and it’s clear neither ever truly went extinct. This raises an interesting question for me: if one of these forces were completely destroyed, would magic itself cease to exist? Could the balance between ice and fire be essential for magic’s survival?
We’ve seen how the White Walkers’ resurgence coincided with the reawakening of dragons, both seemingly tied to the arrival of the red comet. This suggests that ice and fire are two sides of the same coin, intrinsically linked and perhaps dependent on each other. If that’s the case, the elimination of either force could have catastrophic consequences for the magical fabric of the world.
I dont believe that they are just passive record-keepers but I believe they are active players in the world’s most critical events.
I think it’s exactly like George to make the maesters’ supposed mission to destroy magic but by actively keeping it alive until the right moment, for sure plays with his tendency to subvert expectations…for me at least! Thought I’d toss it out there 🤷
I haven’t found much to disprove this so I’m interested in what arguments there are for/against it!
If the maesters haven’t thought about something like this then they are MASSIVELY failing with their secret plan to rid the world of magic
I’ll be writing an essay about this ASAP.
question... lol i was watching the series on hbo again and idk why i didnt think about this before, where in the hell did they get those monstrous anchor chains to pull the dragon out the lake with? maybe they meant them to be ice chains but they was metal how they forging links of chain like that? and in the series when tyrion is in the sky cell and morde is coming in to beat him with the club, the club is leather pillow i only noticed on the 3rd time of watching it but once u see the seams in the leather u cant unsee it
I know Frozen came out two years after A Dance with Dragons, let alone any of the others, and thus couldn't influence ASOIAF, but I find it kind of hilarious that all the art of Val kinda resembles Elsa, especially given her being unbothered by what some other characters consider cold.
I think they’re like the Norns in Memory Sorrow and Thorn.
Hay do u think that because Jamie lost his hand and it made him a better person then brend is related to sir Duncan the tall she will lose her foot and symbols with them to cause as they lose a part of them self it cause a change in personality or belief?
Biggie: I love it when u call me Big Poppa! Lol
That song is about Diddy… lol
Perfecto.
Beltane is pronounced like "Be-al-tin-uh" at least in Ireland.
Classic
Bran will defeat Euron in a beautiful manner... Fist pumping final showdown between Crow's Eye and Winged Wolf.
Watching.
Off topic but is there a legitimate reason that dany couldn't control/communicate with her two young dragons after she chained them. I'd like to think just because she was not born with the eggs but she's mother of dragons?
LORD ALGORITHM!!!!!! HEAR MEEEE!!!!!!!
Unrelated to the others but have you spoke about the fact Varys kind of mirrors gendry in terms of being blood sacrificed due to kings blood? Secret blackfyre
Watched the first hour of this yesterday 😂
Random comment about Ned and co being “grey wraiths”: the Night’s Watch blacks turn grey with age so symbolically this perhaps supports your claims about the original watch being undead and therefore long lived. I think there is a description of Coldhands wearing worn out no longer black blacks