19:26 TrapTrix should be at Good Players or Potencial Threat. We cant forget the power that a deck has when it can use Shifter as a tool against the format.
True i lost against traptrix with voiceless because they shiftered me, i stil was able build board lo, skull and my spell but he kaiju my skull guardian, non engine is everything in yugioh
@@The_One_And_Only_PudgyPenguinx Fire kings and snake eyes lose to shifter, and if you add the exo interruptions and the fact that it can easly otk makes it really strong into THIS tier 0
@@autobotstarscream765yessss thas waz up,let me point y'all in the right direction if i may, check out "Fafnir Master duel" he just finished a 3 series of "pure Rda road to Master rank" those Duels are my replays so it'll show ya how a pro Pure Rda player plays. It can translate to Tcg as well.
As I have played dinomorphia, you can play cards like shifter going 2nd. If you don’t get shifter in starting hand, setting 5 turn 2 is still really good
@@autobotstarscream765Wouldn't recommend them. You want all the traps you can get. The only one I would consider is Misc with fossil dig, but I just max out on the traps
🤦♂️ that's another deck I forgot! There are so many decks 😂 I would put it in potentially threatening but yes it can beat any deck. Just not always consistent in doing that
I havent really played since Covid and trying to get back into the game. Is there a cannontical reason why exosister Mikailis looks like Ecclesia or is that just a coincidience?
Can’t wait for the new set to come out. Melodious is a deck that isn’t being talking about nearly enough. I think it’s gonna get quite a few tops. Especially if the snake eyes stuff gets a few hits.
@@MattOsheaYGO why it’s not that difficult to play the deck and it’s better then half of the deck there especially now when it’s about to get support and a good one
@@MattOsheaYGONib is the best argument for Dinos this format imho, the new Maze of Millenia support lets them make Gigantozowler more reliably to fuse away the Primal Being Token and recover in order to play through Nibbler.
I think you forget that Centur-ion becomes a D-shifter deck after LEDE. Also Packbit is the counter to snake eye in Centur-ion, both offensive and defensively.
Now that Dinos have Fusion options and Dinomorbs have a lot of their floodgates on the banlist, maybe it's time for them to unite into a Dino Fusion pile. 🦖
hey man i haven't been playing yugioh for like 10 years, last format i really played was when spellbook and mermail were big. - trying to get into it a little bit again. here's my question: is it possible to play a harpie deck in the current format? i've still got my old cards and would love to recycle/upgrade the harpies instead of getting into a new archetype alltogether! What do you think?
I hope you mentioned somewhere in there and talk to your road that you can go against any deck is water control with Craig cushion dragonlord that says you can only control one non-water monster monster
they can be summoned out of the extra deck by using any rank 3 or 5 as material so you can use them to turbo out the big guy full armor dark knight lancer and search out the trap too
goblin bikers should go into the potentially threating category. Just because you're opponent isnt playing an xyz deck doesnt mean your deck is gimped, a lot of the goblin biker strategies play off detach cards from your own monsters as well to trigger effects like big gabonga to take your opponents stuff and the combos and lines are not that hard to figure out
I personally think that Branded and Voiceless are Tier 2; by my definition a Tier 0 deck pushes all others out of Tier 1. Anyways, there have been the odd Tearlaments placings here and there with various brews (Paleo Tear for example), how would you compare them to the decks on this list?
I play exosisters and I always manage to shut down snake eyes completely and then banish everything else on the field to win the game next turn. It also turns off most of Voiceless Voice plays too :3 love exosisters
What are your thoughts on Monarchs? It was a deck I was considering picking up again especially since it has (on-paper) anti-Extra Deck cards that sounded strong for the current format.
Wouldn't the deck just lose really hard to Snake-eyes (between the spell that puts your monster in the S/T zone and Flamberge), Voiceless Voice (Doesn't really use ED at all except for sending stuff to the GY from it), Anti-Meta Kashitra (Tons of removal that doesn't require ED) and STUN (shuts off your SS so you have a difficult time getting out your big bodies or just have traps/spells to remove the big bodies)? I think the saving grace is that it locks people out of the extra deck but it's hard to keep the Monarchs on field (unless it's like a Vanity's Fiend or Majesty's Fiend)
No Vanquish Soul? Man I’ve been wanting to try Centur-Ions but they’re pretty expensive. Just picked up a dinosaur deck, sucks to hear it struggles so much. 😭
I just forgot to add it to the list, there are so many decks to consider and I can't get them all in 1 video. But I'd put Vanquish into potentially threatening. Has a hard time with consistency at times. But can definitely do well
@@MattOsheaYGO meant to edit my original comment had noticed your replies to others after posting but uh… kinda forgot haha. & no worries, you threw some in there I wasn’t expecting to see. Nice video 👍🏾
Im glad i got purrely cheap when it first come out on first day on tcgplayer i buy it right them away, i never predict it be a meta deck. I just thought it fun to play with the tower monster nobody knows how to deal with.
You say that but gold pride punk is still a decent deck to go imo. Like not competitive enough I'm not claiming it's t1 or anythşng but still a decent option since you don't depend on nornal summon if ypu draw etele you can side things like denko sekka, lava golem, sphere mode if you want to which are still unexpected jumpscares aginst some decks
What Do you think about paleo, it is Kinda funny to play and loses only to time or negate Boards, i would say it is a good pick if they dont know how to play against, it won me the local today and i had two matches wit snake eyes
Also a deck that takes a good pilot is Blackwings With many diff builds you can beat some of the more powerfull decks in the game But again it takes a good pilot
@@DrybonesKiller brother, i just said it doesnt exist pretty much, i didnt say they dont exist, but the deck is kinda boring, its not super powerfull and they dont have enough crow fans to push it to rogue. Also they have bad match-ups vs some meta decks, pretty sure they dont do well vs tenpai, they extra suck vs yubel and vs snake-eyes im going to be honest and say that i have no clue how the match-up goes
@@mokato3988 it does depend alot on the player tho - i know most people find it boring to play - but they also never gives the deck a chance - sure i suck at playing the deck too but atleast im keeping my eye on only a couple of decks instead of changing it every format - I know that specific Decks easy can beat the birds but then again - no pain no game
Hi matt, just made a tournament today i made 2th of 24 playes 4-1 battled against kash,branded 2 snake eyes and a mannadium lost to snake eyes, my list is like 50 dollar excluding typhon that i borrowed from a friend i think the deck is at least tier 3 /tier 2
I dont think representation should be a big part of your criteria. Only exception is if a deck has alot of representation but no tops, in which case it would be rogue anyways. Representation does not represent power. It only represents how many ppl wanna play it, which is not corrolated linearly with how good a deck is
Anything Shifter Turbo is gonna have an edge in a lot of formats, and anything that can use E-Tele can get more use out of Ghost Ogre who's really strong this format.
Lots of plot holes tbh For example isn't one for all was made by the merging of two quirks? Then shouldn't be an extra conscious of the man who had the stockpile quirk?
@@yomamasaccount you gotta really know the deck and know the match up. Small interactions like souls grave effect or red rising grave effect. Whether red supernova is the move or the typical dis pater and abyss end board. Last regional in Vancouver, I got 5-3 and I misplayed against Kashtira, although getting shifter doesn’t help
@@Shutterbugjon 100% a Centur-Ion card as opposed to a RDA card imho and should definitely go instead of Crimson so Centur-Ion isn't killed in the cradle and Calamity doesn't just migrate to alternative forms of the lock such as King's Synchro (RDA card in lore but Synchron card in function) and T.G.
My Dinosaur Ishizu Danger Tears if allowed, would be absolutely busted as it can bait out 8 negates/and or hand traps. It took 4 flood gates to stop it. Skill Drain, Soul Drain, Summon Limit, and Macocozos😂 Sorry if I spelled that one wrong. The interruptions it creates are max 12+ depending on your opponent plays on what they do, its far more. But now I'm in the process making a new Rouge deck :) Most definitely not as powerful as my first though.
19:26 TrapTrix should be at Good Players or Potencial Threat. We cant forget the power that a deck has when it can use Shifter as a tool against the format.
True i lost against traptrix with voiceless because they shiftered me, i stil was able build board lo, skull and my spell but he kaiju my skull guardian, non engine is everything in yugioh
I play exosister against fireking/snake eyes and pure snake eyes all the time and its just a hard shutdown, i love it😂
You usually loose right?
@@bowseroilYeah there isn't much Fire Kings can't answer
@@The_One_And_Only_PudgyPenguinx Fire kings and snake eyes lose to shifter, and if you add the exo interruptions and the fact that it can easly otk makes it really strong into THIS tier 0
@@bowseroil Exo is a lot faster and more proactive with Cyberdark, it's not just a sitting duck anymore.
@@autobotstarscream765 csn you show me a deck list or youtube video with cyberdsarkm
As one of the only 5 RDA players that exist, we belong in the good players tier sir
make that 6 my friend started playing RDA
Make that 7 RDA 🔥
Been trying out both pure and different mixes myself, me and my friends bought way too many of the SD. 😂
@@autobotstarscream765yessss thas waz up,let me point y'all in the right direction if i may, check out "Fafnir Master duel" he just finished a 3 series of "pure Rda road to Master rank" those Duels are my replays so it'll show ya how a pro Pure Rda player plays. It can translate to Tcg as well.
Where are Blackwing's?
As I have played dinomorphia, you can play cards like shifter going 2nd. If you don’t get shifter in starting hand, setting 5 turn 2 is still really good
Thoughts on generic Dino support in Dinomorb such as Beta Pill, Kaitoptera, Ovi, and Misc?
@@autobotstarscream765Wouldn't recommend them. You want all the traps you can get. The only one I would consider is Misc with fossil dig, but I just max out on the traps
Floowandereeze right now is the best option of all mention in the video?
Where would you place altergeists on this list? Love that deck. And their newer support cards are sick.
I play Libromancer & World Legacy currently, building Scareclaw & Eldlich. I love playing the Rogue decks!
As a Vanquish Soul Only player i love to say that VS beats every of the Big Threat decks with no Doubt.
🤦♂️ that's another deck I forgot! There are so many decks 😂 I would put it in potentially threatening but yes it can beat any deck. Just not always consistent in doing that
What a boring deck
Stopped playing in 2018ish if I remember, getting back into it now and your channel is extremely helpful. Wonderful information
Welcome back! And thanks for the kind words!
Still crazy unchained was so popular not too long ago and now rogue, like it feels like such a fast drop off
Clear World lock down stun is my jam
Cyber dragon and cyberdark unmentioned 😢
I havent really played since Covid and trying to get back into the game. Is there a cannontical reason why exosister Mikailis looks like Ecclesia or is that just a coincidience?
Just a blonde woman coincidence
Can’t wait for the new set to come out. Melodious is a deck that isn’t being talking about nearly enough. I think it’s gonna get quite a few tops. Especially if the snake eyes stuff gets a few hits.
Just curious your thoughts about Battlin Boxer 😊
Why branded chimera not mentioned
If I say every deck it would take me all day 😔
I would put it in Good Players Only
@@MattOsheaYGO why it’s not that difficult to play the deck and it’s better then half of the deck there especially now when it’s about to get support and a good one
Well, new banlist came. I guess some rogue-ish decks will be back, especially Swordsoul with Archnemeses Protos
Possibly, but i dont think so. Nib is stronger than ever, so a nib token will be a Swordsoul endboard since baronne is gone :/
but hopefully im wrong
@@MattOsheaYGONib is the best argument for Dinos this format imho, the new Maze of Millenia support lets them make Gigantozowler more reliably to fuse away the Primal Being Token and recover in order to play through Nibbler.
What about domain monarchs mixed with kashtira deck ? Where would you place it ?
I feel so many decks have potential as long as you practice long enough with them. Thanks again for a great video. Nearly at 10K
🎉🥳
Archetypes are in a good place right now and will keep getting better!
I think you forget that Centur-ion becomes a D-shifter deck after LEDE. Also Packbit is the counter to snake eye in Centur-ion, both offensive and defensively.
I'll talk about centurion again post LEDE, and yeah I didn't even think of Packbit, that's a really cool interaction
Now that Dinos have Fusion options and Dinomorbs have a lot of their floodgates on the banlist, maybe it's time for them to unite into a Dino Fusion pile. 🦖
I love the "Runick Stun" "Don't play this deck!" 😂
Could you do a tier list or in depth explanation of all the consistency boosters like the pot gang
hey man i haven't been playing yugioh for like 10 years, last format i really played was when spellbook and mermail were big.
- trying to get into it a little bit again. here's my question: is it possible to play a harpie deck in the current format? i've still got my old cards and would love to recycle/upgrade the harpies instead of getting into a new archetype alltogether!
What do you think?
What about code talkers what’s your opinion on that deck this format
I hope you mentioned somewhere in there and talk to your road that you can go against any deck is water control with Craig cushion dragonlord that says you can only control one non-water monster monster
Blackwings actually can play 2 varients and one of them is with shifter
I may have been out of the loop too long, but HOW do the phantom knights utilize the Armored Xyz monsters?
they can be summoned out of the extra deck by using any rank 3 or 5 as material so you can use them to turbo out the big guy full armor dark knight lancer and search out the trap too
Dino best deck🔥🔥🔥
Yes!!! 🥹
HERO and Dino baby!
Tyrano & misc SIUUUUUU ❤️🔥❤️🔥🤗
Traptrix can search play the protos and colossus packages btw
Biggest weakness with hero that holds it back is it's crippling weakness to nibiru. So if you don't open cross out designator you're just out of luck
Eldlich/zombies still relevant at all? How about phantom knights? Thinking about getting into it again but been 3 years 🙃
all are strategies that work but arent as consistent or as strong as the decks nowadays. But if you have the cards they make sense to play
goblin bikers should go into the potentially threating category. Just because you're opponent isnt playing an xyz deck doesnt mean your deck is gimped, a lot of the goblin biker strategies play off detach cards from your own monsters as well to trigger effects like big gabonga to take your opponents stuff and the combos and lines are not that hard to figure out
I personally think that Branded and Voiceless are Tier 2; by my definition a Tier 0 deck pushes all others out of Tier 1.
Anyways, there have been the odd Tearlaments placings here and there with various brews (Paleo Tear for example), how would you compare them to the decks on this list?
Oh, and what about Horus? Specifically I think Bystial Orcust builds are better than a lot of the decks on your rogue tier list.
orcust Horus or
tearalaments
Witch ones is better
I play exosisters and I always manage to shut down snake eyes completely and then banish everything else on the field to win the game next turn. It also turns off most of Voiceless Voice plays too :3 love exosisters
Where would you please Gravekeeper's
What are your thoughts on Monarchs? It was a deck I was considering picking up again especially since it has (on-paper) anti-Extra Deck cards that sounded strong for the current format.
Wouldn't the deck just lose really hard to Snake-eyes (between the spell that puts your monster in the S/T zone and Flamberge), Voiceless Voice (Doesn't really use ED at all except for sending stuff to the GY from it), Anti-Meta Kashitra (Tons of removal that doesn't require ED) and STUN (shuts off your SS so you have a difficult time getting out your big bodies or just have traps/spells to remove the big bodies)? I think the saving grace is that it locks people out of the extra deck but it's hard to keep the Monarchs on field (unless it's like a Vanity's Fiend or Majesty's Fiend)
Traptrix mentioned 🎉
Sera already wins since it's on the Thumbnail
@@MattOsheaYGO hands down, im hoping to see some going second support because I personally love the engine
@@r3duniverse805 Trap tantalizing tune has helped ALOT going second I thought it was useless but I tell ya what it's great
No Vanquish Soul? Man I’ve been wanting to try Centur-Ions but they’re pretty expensive. Just picked up a dinosaur deck, sucks to hear it struggles so much. 😭
I just forgot to add it to the list, there are so many decks to consider and I can't get them all in 1 video. But I'd put Vanquish into potentially threatening. Has a hard time with consistency at times. But can definitely do well
@@MattOsheaYGO meant to edit my original comment had noticed your replies to others after posting but uh… kinda forgot haha. & no worries, you threw some in there I wasn’t expecting to see. Nice video 👍🏾
What's your Dino build?
Does anyone know when does the new banlist drop??
Raidraptor mention lets go 🎉😊
Im glad i got purrely cheap when it first come out on first day on tcgplayer i buy it right them away, i never predict it be a meta deck. I just thought it fun to play with the tower monster nobody knows how to deal with.
Odd eyes isn’t too bad
I’ve been playing a lot of galaxy eyes right now and it’s so much fun and I’ve been having pretty good success with it too
You say that but gold pride punk is still a decent deck to go imo. Like not competitive enough I'm not claiming it's t1 or anythşng but still a decent option since you don't depend on nornal summon if ypu draw etele you can side things like denko sekka, lava golem, sphere mode if you want to which are still unexpected jumpscares aginst some decks
When is yubel coming to master duel?
What Do you think about paleo, it is Kinda funny to play and loses only to time or negate Boards, i would say it is a good pick if they dont know how to play against, it won me the local today and i had two matches wit snake eyes
Also a deck that takes a good pilot is Blackwings
With many diff builds you can beat some of the more powerfull decks in the game
But again it takes a good pilot
Which doesnt exist pretty much
@@mokato3988 ?
@@mokato3988 oh yeah - then tell me how a BW player gets his invite ?
@@DrybonesKiller brother, i just said it doesnt exist pretty much, i didnt say they dont exist, but the deck is kinda boring, its not super powerfull and they dont have enough crow fans to push it to rogue. Also they have bad match-ups vs some meta decks, pretty sure they dont do well vs tenpai, they extra suck vs yubel and vs snake-eyes im going to be honest and say that i have no clue how the match-up goes
@@mokato3988 it does depend alot on the player tho - i know most people find it boring to play - but they also never gives the deck a chance - sure i suck at playing the deck too but atleast im keeping my eye on only a couple of decks instead of changing it every format
- I know that specific Decks easy can beat the birds but then again - no pain no game
What do you think about Ninja deck ? It Is a Rogue deck ? 🤔
where do raidraptor fall in to ?
They are one of the 5 best rogue decks imo
Cyber Dragons please.
No mannadium on the rogue tier?
I explain in the video :)
Staples teirlist?
Y didnt u mentioned Rescue ace?
There are so many decks I just missed it! It's a big threat or potentially threatening.
Bro said don't play scareclaw cause he didn't read scareclaw twinsaw.
Let us cook 🔥
Hi matt, just made a tournament today i made 2th of 24 playes 4-1 battled against kash,branded 2 snake eyes and a mannadium lost to snake eyes, my list is like 50 dollar excluding typhon that i borrowed from a friend i think the deck is at least tier 3 /tier 2
On MD, my rogue is Icejade.
Was hoping for some adventure synchrons :(
I dont think representation should be a big part of your criteria. Only exception is if a deck has alot of representation but no tops, in which case it would be rogue anyways. Representation does not represent power. It only represents how many ppl wanna play it, which is not corrolated linearly with how good a deck is
B.A hand trap build is a good counter for this formats meta !!
I want to know were Tear would be place
In Hell, play Dino + Dinomorb Fusion Pile instead. 😎
No raidraptor :c
raidraptor is mentioned not even 3 minutes into the video
@@MattOsheaYGO Oh i skipped right to the part where you start talking about the decks. Sorry lmao 😅
Dogmatika stun? I've seen some videos of it doing well. Not because i stan for the archetype.
-Gabriel from locals AKA the dogmatika stan.
Im crushing meta decks with MYUTANTS!!! We love banishing shit and Dimension Shifter helps us
Anything Shifter Turbo is gonna have an edge in a lot of formats, and anything that can use E-Tele can get more use out of Ghost Ogre who's really strong this format.
Runick generaider?
where did you find that
Where is Blackwing Best Deck? 😅
Dragonlinks for lyfe
Where is Virtual World on your list. The deck can literally play through 99% of hand traps
They always sleep. They forget shenshen fucks SE too lol
It's also a pile of bricks. 😂
@@autobotstarscream765 every deck bricks lol
@@alexanderbatterbee8369 Some more than others.
@@autobotstarscream765 I just top 8ed a case tournament with it a month or so ago. Only lost because of brick one game lol
HERO and Salamangreat best deck 🔥
Mikanko and buster blader! Sleeper decks
Have you considered Branded Buster Blader? Makes Swordsman + Dragon easy.
I like how he mentions little knight as if we all casually have a $100 card* just chillin
I mean, it's a rogue tierlist, not a budget deck tierlist 😅
Devastated my two pet decks aren't viable rn
Just because a deck isn't viable doesn't mean its not fun to play!
Lots of plot holes tbh
For example isn't one for all was made by the merging of two quirks?
Then shouldn't be an extra conscious of the man who had the stockpile quirk?
no salads? i guess they're still meta
Theyre literally in the video 😂
Someone didn't watch the video and went straight to comment lol😂
where rikka
no one sees the fire king flame swordsman deck, its legit
Of course lab is better than traptrix. But its much more expensive not everyone can buy the deck he wants 😁😁
Lab got another reprint of an important card in Rarity Collection 2.
@@autobotstarscream765 What card to be exact? Garura?
i think plants are a greta rogue deck too
great*
where raidraptor lol
Yubel can't play Shifter well. It's a trap.
Dark world
Play me bro. Ill teach you to respect dinomorphia
He already does, and he hates it. 😂
Not even mentioning Rescue Ace is crazy.
Yeah, just so many decks that some slip through the cracks 😅
I'd put it in big threat
RDA is good players only
Why?
@@yomamasaccount you gotta really know the deck and know the match up. Small interactions like souls grave effect or red rising grave effect. Whether red supernova is the move or the typical dis pater and abyss end board. Last regional in Vancouver, I got 5-3 and I misplayed against Kashtira, although getting shifter doesn’t help
Dear good RDA players: can we agree that the actual RDA Deck doesn't need King Calamity and can better use the precious ED space?
@@autobotstarscream765 i use it with the centurion variant lol but if it gets banned, I wouldn’t miss it at all 😌
@@Shutterbugjon 100% a Centur-Ion card as opposed to a RDA card imho and should definitely go instead of Crimson so Centur-Ion isn't killed in the cradle and Calamity doesn't just migrate to alternative forms of the lock such as King's Synchro (RDA card in lore but Synchron card in function) and T.G.
Race?😂
Eldlich best deck
charmers :D
Brother now half of your best rogue are literally dead,look mannadium ,raidraptor now no One play It
List is a mess
Check out ogdoadic. Very strong combos, versatile and resourceful. Stronger when paired with horus and/or evol engine.
My Dinosaur Ishizu Danger Tears if allowed, would be absolutely busted as it can bait out 8 negates/and or hand traps. It took 4 flood gates to stop it. Skill Drain, Soul Drain, Summon Limit, and Macocozos😂 Sorry if I spelled that one wrong. The interruptions it creates are max 12+ depending on your opponent plays on what they do, its far more. But now I'm in the process making a new Rouge deck :) Most definitely not as powerful as my first though.