Someone else already did. I've been playing a more aggressive version of this deck for awhile now. I don't play much but in what I did play I think I went 12 and 5. Mind you, I didn't MAKE the deck, I found it on Hearthpwn.
Abadi Haider I think the way hearthstone vids works, you see a missplay you feel the intense need to pause the vid come down here and comment about it then realize he pointed it out then you are lazy to delete it :v
Already play a better version of this deck. He's split his cards to many ways. You basically need to make a Zoo Paladin with Secrets, Challenger and Tirion. The card draw in Divine Favor is a must because you can just run out to quickly. You also need to combo your cards. Dropping Bilefin on turn 2 is good, but dropping it on turn 5 with that 3/3 give divine shield is MUCH better.
Hey Jens, the description of this video has a mistake, it says the first game starts at 50:52 Love your work btw, the editing of Trump's vids is amazing
+Wizold Sage The Mage 4 mana for both Paladin and Druid, 3 mana for Shaman, 6 mana for Mage, 2 mana and 1 mana and 5 mana for Warrior, 2 mana for Hunter, 5 mana and another 5 mana for Priest, There are tons of cards that deal one damage to all minions
For the grammar people, Moroes's Secret is the more common way to form the possessive form of a singular noun that ends in an S. However, Moroes' secret is acceptable. I believe it all depends on the style guide that you're using.
Moroes's Secret (Correct in this case). Refers to Moroes as ONE PERSON and the secret belonging to him. Moroes' Secret (Incorrect in this case). Refers to several people named Moroes and the secret belonging to them.
I actually think with a few revision, slight control added. A consecrate/equality and maybe a bog creeper it wouldn't be too bad. Have the 1 health synergy but also some defense also
1. Take a deck that already exists. 2. Change one or two cards, usually making it worse. 3. Claim you've created a new deck and that you're a Hearthstone innovator. 4. Lose a couple of matches (mostly because of replaced cards). 5. Claim the deck is bad.
That deck was just god aweful, one divine favor? Dragon egg? Challenger? One divine favor?! The deck runs one drops with 1 health, and secrets to dump hand and have some slight synergy for big favors; you slashed every one of those.
www.dailywritingtips.com/possessive-of-proper-names-ending-in-s/ Yes and no, depending on which guideline you follow. It is, however, incorrect for Trump to suggest that it is wrong to say "Moroes's." Depending on the guide book you follow, either could be correct or both could be correct. In the case of the Supreme Court (yes the Supreme Court actually had to make a ruling on this), 's is added to a proper noun if the extra s is pronounced. According to the Supreme Court therefore, Trump should have placed an 's since he pronounced the second s. 5:21
Did he put blood knight in it? I'm running a Stewards deck and 2 Blood Knights are OP, especially if they turn four C'thuns Chosen, had multiple occasions of turn 3/4/5 9/9, 12/12 even 15/15 Blood Knights.
I thought an apostrophe after the S was for plural possessive, like "the peoples' will". If it's a singular noun it's fine to say "Moroes's Secret" since there's just the one of him (unless his lore makes him a plural entity, I never played WoW so I have no idea)
Trump, how about Moroes in a Control Pally ? There he gets so much more time to serve his Value . Combined with Justicar you can swarm him with 3 1/1 each turn . Just an idea :)
5:30 Actually, there is no official consensus about this rule. I've seen examples of singular nouns ending in s be spelled with and spelled without the s after the apostrophe. (eg. Congress's vs. Congress'). Annoyingly, some sources always use apostrophe s, some sources never use apostrophe s, and some sources use apostrophe s for common nouns (dress's) but never proper nouns (Moroes'). Just throwing it out there.
The problem with Moroes is that you have to design the entire deck around a card with just a reasonably okay effect. Its a pure gimmick deck, where 9/10 games it fails.
Lmao you obviously don't represent the "grammar people" you think you do... Moroes already has an S in it, so the " Moroes' " is in fact correct. Just as "My Bass' string" would be correct. Sorry bud.
The apostrophe is not correct. Moroes is the card's name so you would have to add an apostrophe and an s to make it a plural. If you write "Moroes'" then it appears that it is a plural possessive. Think about it, class end's with an s, but you wouldn't say "my class' pet hamster died today"
www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp : "One method, common in newspapers and magazines, is to add an apostrophe + s ('s) to common nouns ending in s, but only a stand-alone apostrophe to proper nouns ending in s. "Mr. Jones' golf clubs"" So Moroes' is actually correct
till the next expansion, the ladder will be full of secret decks. too much synergy with the new cards. Now we have Secret Smorc Hunter. Seems Eater of Secrets is going to see play now haha
Trump: Always jumping to conclusions. You didn't confirm that a "Moroes/secret" deck doesn't work... you confirmed that YOURS doesn't. Get rid of those eggs and maybe the squires (they don't work with the Steward of Darkshire) and maybe it'll work out better. Also, another advantage this deck has over many others, though it doesn't matter for you, is that it's cheap. Only Tyrion and Moroes as legendaries and few epics too.
Jens (The guy who edits trumps videos) only edits and shows the interesting games, these videos would be long, repetitive and boring if every game was in them :-)
Oh you're right, I missed the record note at the end of the second game shown so he actually played a whopping... uh, four games. That's still ridiculously narrow, I know it's a card game but I'd still expect "deck science" to at least aim for 50-100 games before coming to any kind of conclusion.
this is not a secret deck so you should not be running mysterious challenger, you have no card draw but a lot of ways to buff 1/1's so Justicar is really good here, Dragon Egg has no right to be here especially since you are really light on 2 drops adding the 3/1 stealth minion would be extremely beneficial, think about defender of Argus next time, and zoo is just better overall.
Honestly, i like your idea of a Secret Divine Paladin, but you have A LOT of dead cards like those dragon eggs, your base was pretty good in fact, but those Dragon eggs do nothing for the deck at all. Truesilver is a powerfull card, but you allready have your other weapons, having to many weapons like that just slow you donw a bit. And beside, you allready have Bleasings of Kings, wich for any intent and porpuse, is a Truesilver: 4 extra damage. If you drop it at a divene shielded minion, then you just got masive value Also, yo lack of drawing power, loot horders are always good with no one runing silence, also (because i dont have many cards AND i really start to like her) cult master can give you A LOT of drawing power if your mions last at least one turn to attack or if you allready have a board and your opponent drop something you need to get kill right away, you can trade with A LOT of value. Divene favor is good, but agaist another degenerated/aggro-face deck, is just a dead card. Wolf rider is a 3/1 Charge AND can get Divne shield from Steward of Darkshire. I think if you tune up a little bit your deck, it could work amazing, i might even try the idea once i get more cards :)
>Makes a Moroes deck
"The Moroes is probably a must."
*making Moroes deck*
"Moroes is probably a must"
Trump wisdom.
"I could also try hitting face." Famous last words.
Trump don't you dare try and bring secret pally back
You do realize that do to the way communities work if the deck is good it WILL happen. Period. If trump doesn't find it someone else will.
I don't think I'm ready to relive theese 3 months of secret pally
Someone else already did. I've been playing a more aggressive version of this deck for awhile now. I don't play much but in what I did play I think I went 12 and 5. Mind you, I didn't MAKE the deck, I found it on Hearthpwn.
+OneBigBugga thank you for pushing aggressive decks. the game really needs them.
Yes because him playing an aggro deck is going to break the meta
Moroes' secret is that you never draw him.
tru
Seeing Trump put Mysterious Challenger in a deck triggered my PTSD from the pre-Old Gods meta, you heartless fiend
So we got a Moroes deck, and Moroes is never actually played. Brilliant!
"Moroes' Secret. Kinda like Victoria's Secret"... Thanks. I really needed that mental image. DX
"Let's show our guests a good time ;)"
Indeed...
First game vs Dragon warrior is at 5:52. the description is a tad off atm
Trump you were supposed to destroy the secret Paladins and bring balance to the Hearthstone, not join them!
* Builds deck badly, plays it poorly * "Huh, I guess it's a bad deck"
Trump, why you misplay like a scrublord at 13:20? You make me sad
lmao i was looking for this comment
The order right? NotLikeThis
he literally pointed it out couple of seconds later ...
Abadi Haider I think the way hearthstone vids works, you see a missplay you feel the intense need to pause the vid come down here and comment about it then realize he pointed it out then you are lazy to delete it :v
+Luis Miguel Guerrero(FC) indeed my friend
Already play a better version of this deck. He's split his cards to many ways. You basically need to make a Zoo Paladin with Secrets, Challenger and Tirion. The card draw in Divine Favor is a must because you can just run out to quickly. You also need to combo your cards. Dropping Bilefin on turn 2 is good, but dropping it on turn 5 with that 3/3 give divine shield is MUCH better.
How have you done with the deck?
like I said, I don't play often, but I went 12 and 5 with it what I did play.
Deck list plsss
Just remove the secret cards and add things Trump removed, and maybe Defender of Argus.
naaa, not even close, at that point you're making a standard Paladin aggressive deck, no point as you'll be out valued by all over aggressive decks
Hey Jens, the description of this video has a mistake, it says the first game starts at 50:52 Love your work btw, the editing of Trump's vids is amazing
Seal of Champions is necessary. Repentance/Secretkeepers/Dragon Eggs are not.
Also, the Mysterious Challengers seemed a bit pointless. Grabbing 1-2 secrets with challenger doesn't seem worth slowing down the deck for it.
Doesn't take a genius to realize that Trump's deck is completely fucked and nonsensical by trying to accomplish way too many things at once.
^ This
Had damn near this exact deck laid out in my head. Seems fun
Why are there Dragon Eggs and Redemptions in that deck? Wouldn't Blood Knight or Knife Juggler be better?
+protestantpope don't forget entomb
*****
It's fine as long as you don't overbuff him. Most of your minions with divine shields are 1/1s anyway.
+Kyl Harrt paladins dont have entomb. You mean priest ??
+MCS_MCS he meant priests can entomb the blood knight
Hahahhahahahahaha, Priest!
Every time I see Moroes played he ends up dead the next turn. Moroes was a nice 400 dust, he helped me craft Sylvanas!
Schlomo Shekelstein Already bullied. Also I think you need to research what edgy actually means. I was just saying the facts.
Yeah, horribly overrated card, lol.
If he could be ran in priest with power word-shield I feel like he'd be better. But priest is so bad.
+Wizold Sage The Mage 4 mana for both Paladin and Druid, 3 mana for Shaman, 6 mana for Mage, 2 mana and 1 mana and 5 mana for Warrior, 2 mana for Hunter, 5 mana and another 5 mana for Priest, There are tons of cards that deal one damage to all minions
+Wizold Sage The Mage True, I was just saying that now in days you can play a 12/12 and it getting removed with one card
Moroes's[Moroesiz]
Moroes' [Moroes]when we're talking about multiple people(like 2+ members of Moroes family)
no
trump I love old decks being build back but anything but secret pally
For the grammar people, Moroes's Secret is the more common way to form the possessive form of a singular noun that ends in an S. However, Moroes' secret is acceptable.
I believe it all depends on the style guide that you're using.
Moroes's Secret (Correct in this case). Refers to Moroes as ONE PERSON and the secret belonging to him.
Moroes' Secret (Incorrect in this case). Refers to several people named Moroes and the secret belonging to them.
*Moroes Paladin* "I think Moroes is probably a must"
Moroes is getting played? That's the most surprising thing that could come out of Karazhan other than Purify making Priest viable again.
5:51 skipperino trumperino
I just got my pupils dilated and I'm just looking at the pretty colors on the screen
KEEP YOUR GLASSES ON
*devolves into childish giggling*
ahh thats why you can write a comment
+Victor David wait this makes sense how the fuck he can type ... sounds like shit from a Bull
I am no bull shitter. My vision was just a little wavy. Also, fuck you.
I actually think with a few revision, slight control added. A consecrate/equality and maybe a bog creeper it wouldn't be too bad. Have the 1 health synergy but also some defense also
1. Take a deck that already exists.
2. Change one or two cards, usually making it worse.
3. Claim you've created a new deck and that you're a Hearthstone innovator.
4. Lose a couple of matches (mostly because of replaced cards).
5. Claim the deck is bad.
What a load of complete bullshit!
Doesn't matter whether you're playing a net deck or your own deck every deck should be teched to suit the meta.
It's called Science
+Mario Almanza no, its not called sience, its called exploring
And I'm totally okay with sciencing/exploring! I just think a pinch of humilty would go a pretty long way.
That deck was just god aweful, one divine favor? Dragon egg? Challenger? One divine favor?! The deck runs one drops with 1 health, and secrets to dump hand and have some slight synergy for big favors; you slashed every one of those.
I put Moroes into typical Aggro Paladin, works pretty well
Maybe you could try tweaking the dec before deeming it bad ? Could make an interesting video
His tweaking the deck before playing it makes it bad
+Aravash Yep. Trump has a lot of experience, but he's straight up bad at deck building.
Gabu - San Considering taking out selfless hero before dragon egg speaks volumes
Is it not Moroes's Secret?
Nah. The S is already in Moroes. That happens with almost all Words that end in S.
It's my dog's bone.
It's my bass' string.
I just looked it up. It's both possible. :) In the plural, however, you only add the apostrophe ("my cats' food").
Good to know! I just wanted to help, since studying English is one of my interests. :)
www.dailywritingtips.com/possessive-of-proper-names-ending-in-s/
Yes and no, depending on which guideline you follow. It is, however, incorrect for Trump to suggest that it is wrong to say "Moroes's." Depending on the guide book you follow, either could be correct or both could be correct.
In the case of the Supreme Court (yes the Supreme Court actually had to make a ruling on this), 's is added to a proper noun if the extra s is pronounced. According to the Supreme Court therefore, Trump should have placed an 's since he pronounced the second s. 5:21
Which case was this ruling made for?
"Secret paladin was a little bit of a thing"
no no no no no.
NO.
Time stamp in description? First game
Secret Pali...
my life is flashing before me
I think Moroes will be amazing in Token Druid more so then secret pally
Maybe Moroes would be would be better in Midrange Paladin? Secret Paladin is getting rotated out soon, and Midrange has more buff cards.
Did he put blood knight in it? I'm running a Stewards deck and 2 Blood Knights are OP, especially if they turn four C'thuns Chosen, had multiple occasions of turn 3/4/5 9/9, 12/12 even 15/15 Blood Knights.
I thought an apostrophe after the S was for plural possessive, like "the peoples' will". If it's a singular noun it's fine to say "Moroes's Secret" since there's just the one of him (unless his lore makes him a plural entity, I never played WoW so I have no idea)
Yes, you are correct. Trump's attempt to satisfy grammar nerds was futile.
13:08 missplay DansGame
the description says the dragon warrior starts at 50:52 extra zero thrown in there
What program Trump uses to display score, etc. ?
OHHHHHHH DEM DECK SKILLZ
its back.... should we try to fight it or run away?
Well since Trump went 1-3 I'd say fight it.
Why not sword of justice? Easy way to buff Moroes out of ghoul range.
That rallying blade misplay at 13:00
Watching Trump stresses me out so much sometimes. I'm getting downright mad at 17:00 when he draws the damn useless dragon egg.
Trump, how about Moroes in a Control Pally ? There he gets so much more time to serve his Value . Combined with Justicar you can swarm him with 3 1/1 each turn . Just an idea :)
Jens*
Could be a remake of Guy Paladin... I like it.
Jens?
Charanor Trump's Name
GenuinelyUniqueGents That's his editors name. Trump's real name is Jeffrey.
We thought we had seen the last of secret paladin... we were wrong
5:30 Actually, there is no official consensus about this rule. I've seen examples of singular nouns ending in s be spelled with and spelled without the s after the apostrophe. (eg. Congress's vs. Congress'). Annoyingly, some sources always use apostrophe s, some sources never use apostrophe s, and some sources use apostrophe s for common nouns (dress's) but never proper nouns (Moroes'). Just throwing it out there.
How does he have 0 dust?
i got a 80% win rate with moroes druid. it's played about 20 games so i think it's pretty good
The problem with Moroes is that you have to design the entire deck around a card with just a reasonably okay effect. Its a pure gimmick deck, where 9/10 games it fails.
Actually, for grammar people, it should be Moroes's Secret.
Nope, Trump's right with Moroes'. Unless it's different where you live.
Lmao you obviously don't represent the "grammar people" you think you do...
Moroes already has an S in it, so the " Moroes' " is in fact correct.
Just as "My Bass' string" would be correct.
Sorry bud.
I looks like someone failed the test to become a Grammar Nazi... lol
Yep, the above 2 are right. Plural possessive and singular possessive that end in S have the apostrophe at the end.
Pretty sure proper nouns that end in S you use s's
It's sad that when you try to build a deck around a cool card, that card usually turns out to be the weakest one in the deck
A deck centered around Moroes in which he is never the star player. lol
He totally rocks in the Aggro-Paladin deck I'm using. But, yeah, Leeroy is still the star of the show!
This is just a crippled aggro divine shield deck. No point.
And the deck was already crippled to begin with
dam would it kill you net deckers to try something new.
So there's no point in having fun building decks? How dare people want to play anything other than the best decks?
Kyl Harrt ikr. these rank 20 net decking fucks swear they about to hit legend XD get on some where
More Moroes pls!!!!
Trump, are you watching the new danganronpas?
You appear to be referencing it a lot.
You have my attention and the attention of the audience! Make a good show, don't let us down!
Mysterious challenger is still in standard?? so why is secret paladin no longer a thing
10:03 PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
Why the dragon eggs? Seriously even the secret keepers had more synergy...
Has trump been watching/playing Danganropa? He keeps talking about despair :P
Incorrect grammar. Moroes is a proper noun, so the possessive is Moroes's
The apostrophe is not correct. Moroes is the card's name so you would have to add an apostrophe and an s to make it a plural. If you write "Moroes'" then it appears that it is a plural possessive. Think about it, class end's with an s, but you wouldn't say "my class' pet hamster died today"
I think, 2 Mysterious Challangers is to much...
The correct spelling would actually be Moroes's because he is one person. If it was a plural, then Moroes' would be correct.
www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp :
"One method, common in newspapers and magazines, is to add an apostrophe + s ('s) to common nouns ending in s, but only a stand-alone apostrophe to proper nouns ending in s.
"Mr. Jones' golf clubs""
So Moroes' is actually correct
Derp
Not knowing basic grammar rules in 2016 LUL
+PerkSystem BAD GRAMMAR IN 2016 LUL
you never use s's
Can this deck be named "The Butler's Secret?"
till the next expansion, the ladder will be full of secret decks. too much synergy with the new cards. Now we have Secret Smorc Hunter.
Seems Eater of Secrets is going to see play now haha
why doesnt he use his golden cards?
This is a deck similar to what i`ll be building though i`ll be going full Face Pally with it
Trump: Always jumping to conclusions.
You didn't confirm that a "Moroes/secret" deck doesn't work... you confirmed that YOURS doesn't. Get rid of those eggs and maybe the squires (they don't work with the Steward of Darkshire) and maybe it'll work out better.
Also, another advantage this deck has over many others, though it doesn't matter for you, is that it's cheap. Only Tyrion and Moroes as legendaries and few epics too.
13:06 misplay? Shouldnt he have abusived before rallying to make abusive into a 3/2?
upvote if you noticed that Trump was playing Hearthstone in this video
13:20, order pls
We should have a campaign to get Trump a girl!
trump is a girl...
Isn't dat boi gay?
This comment is pretty patronizing lol.
I feel cheated. This was a Moroes deck but he was never played to any effect.
I once summoned 4 yoggs in one game
Why dont you use your golden cards ??
he has stated before only 100% of golden/non golden
Trumperino senpai
i wanted to see one good moroes play in 20minutes since the video is about that card but hey
are you omitting a game in between? why does it go from 0-1 to 1-2?
Jens (The guy who edits trumps videos) only edits and shows the interesting games, these videos would be long, repetitive and boring if every game was in them :-)
its just strange to have a video pieced together from different parts of stream
+StandardTrickyness it's actually super common for twitch streamers to upload "stream highlights" aka different clips from a stream.
Eater of Secrets incoming...
13:05
"look at that value" *missplays*
wrong order in 13:25 as you needed to abusive first to buff him with a divine shield, then weapon up. :)
turns out 5 seconds later you knew. Good job Trump
Take out Moroes and put in Violet Teacher.
Is he even allowed to call it deck "science" if the sample size is only two games?
he played more games on his stream, you only saw them on youtube
Oh you're right, I missed the record note at the end of the second game shown so he actually played a whopping... uh, four games. That's still ridiculously narrow, I know it's a card game but I'd still expect "deck science" to at least aim for 50-100 games before coming to any kind of conclusion.
The Message's Movies also there were 3 games in this video not 2 you giraffe
"If I keep quibbling at small details, that will somehow undermine the core argument."
The Message's Movies giraffe
50:52 - vs Dragon Warrior
k.
trump why do you not use your golden cards!
Why does he never use golden cards?
takes more room at deck tracker plus I think streamers want to seem more like the average hearthstone player and try to be more relatable
I'd buy from Moroes' Secret ;)
Remember the times Trump was fighting aggro decks, not building them?
13:06 made me cringe.
that order
At least he acknowledged it.
The last time I was this early.
you were killed in an car accident
It's "Moroes's" not "Moroes'".
13:12 - you are correct, misplay
13:22 - TRUMP ADMITS HE WAS WRONG
CHILL OUT
13:32*!!!
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fuk u Scott
Charle Magne u like magne hush hush
??
10 mins couldn't he of set one of his minions health and damage to three to get the extra one damage
this is not a secret deck so you should not be running mysterious challenger, you have no card draw but a lot of ways to buff 1/1's so Justicar is really good here, Dragon Egg has no right to be here especially since you are really light on 2 drops adding the 3/1 stealth minion would be extremely beneficial, think about defender of Argus next time, and zoo is just better overall.
Honestly, i like your idea of a Secret Divine Paladin, but you have A LOT of dead cards like those dragon eggs, your base was pretty good in fact, but those Dragon eggs do nothing for the deck at all. Truesilver is a powerfull card, but you allready have your other weapons, having to many weapons like that just slow you donw a bit. And beside, you allready have Bleasings of Kings, wich for any intent and porpuse, is a Truesilver: 4 extra damage. If you drop it at a divene shielded minion, then you just got masive value
Also, yo lack of drawing power, loot horders are always good with no one runing silence, also (because i dont have many cards AND i really start to like her) cult master can give you A LOT of drawing power if your mions last at least one turn to attack or if you allready have a board and your opponent drop something you need to get kill right away, you can trade with A LOT of value. Divene favor is good, but agaist another degenerated/aggro-face deck, is just a dead card.
Wolf rider is a 3/1 Charge AND can get Divne shield from Steward of Darkshire. I think if you tune up a little bit your deck, it could work amazing, i might even try the idea once i get more cards :)
P.d: I also use Moroes, dont take it out, it works most of the time (unless you face a rouge and fan of knife to the face)
why trump don't use golden cards?