Starmer & Labour Face An Impossible Challenge In Trying To Clear Up The Mess Left By The Tories
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Last week saw the general election in which Rishi Sunak and the Conservatives were beaten by the #labourparty under #keirstarmer
Under the First Past The Post Labour won 411 seats with just 34% of votes cast and with a turnout of just 60%
The government now faces an almost impossible set of challenges. Starmer says he will re-negotiate our deal with the EU, will do away with 'red tape' hindering trade with the EU and that he will finance the many areas that are starved of cash by growing the economy. He has also stated recently that the UK will never return to EU membership in his lifetime.
That was Liz Truss best speech she said nothing
Hopefully to disappear over the Horizon into Oblivion! Maybe Legislation should be introduced to determine that, "Former Prime Ministers must have served at least 6 Months In Office to qualify for a Lifetime Pension"! That in itself, will contribute to the burden placed upon the Working People & Taxpayers of this Country, eradicating further 'purges' to our Economy!
Many many times the Tories have won a GE with fewer votes. Nobody said a thing then!
Labour need to concentrate on making lives better for people. Lower energy bills. More housing. A better NHS. Sorting out the PPE fraudsters.
In a Nut Shell! Well said!
@@raylittle8607 No chance.
Close the offshore loopholes and tax the super-rich on their company earnings.
Get back the COVID fraud money and tag the accused, the fraudsters AND the enablers who are ALL a flight risk.
Three things that Starmer can attain credibility on. (1) Launch a Public Enquiry into PPE Contracts. (2) Launch a Public Enquiry into 'Track & Trace' Contracts. (3) Launch a Public Enquiry into 'Offshore Investments & Tax Avoidance Schemes. These 3 Enquiries will reveal all that the general public need to know about the Tories & their greedy ambitions!
And reform of the press who have printed utter crap to protect the tories.
Not just launch public inquiries, but claw back the looted funds and use them for the publics benefit!
@@brenglover72time for Levenson 2 and Levenson 3!
...and after 10 years of paying out £billions to fat cat lawyers, what then?
@@JMHM3170 Absolutely. These are things that should NOT be allowed to be buried in the sands of time. If corruption was in play, and let's be honest - it most certainly was, then justice must be served.
Congrats on jettisoning the Tories. Now, Starmer’s job begins. How to make a silk UK purse out of a sow’s Brexit ear.
Truss not saying anything. That's the best speech ever from her. Hard and also unbelievable that she was a PM. Proof if ever, to never vote Tory.
The only party that has consistently promoted membership of the EU is the Liberal Democrats, which is why they have my support.
Really? So some obscure party in a third country gets to decide force membership of the EU????? This is the problem with you English , your enormous egos . The EU does not want you back at all!!!!
I sat up to watch the Truss result. It was the highlight of the night. Her behaviour was even worse than I expected. She really is an awful person.
@@jasonc5413 the way she shuffled off without even a speech was just 👌. The truss moment will go down in history.
Brexit has obviously been a disaster and I personally agree that I’d like us to go back into the EU as quickly as possible. Let’s be real though, Britain is racist. It was never particularly committed to the European project, it has a little tinpot mentality and it doffs its cap to posh privately educated figures like Farage, Johnson and the like. People in this country want it to be miserable and they want to live in the past. I think that mentality may die off as very different younger generations replace the oldies, but meanwhile people want to go back to the 1950s. Maybe that will change under Labour quicker than Starmer thinks, his comments certainly indicate a longer timeframes than I’d imagined, but here we are. Let’s just stabilise for now, get the public sector on its feet again, get building, fix our international reputation and get our house in order. Elections and referendums have consequences, that’s democracy, and decline has been what people have voted for in every election apart from the one 3 days ago. We have to live with the consequences of the past 14 years.
Bingo.
Dear Mr Lambert.
I’ve been listening to you for a very long time and I very much respect your views. Labour did what it was supposed to do. Won the election. They , same as libdems , used the first past the post to their Advantage. That is the nature of politics.
Please give the man a chance. For the sake of all of us.
With respect
Agreed but...BY the same token, it is important that Starmer remembers he has not got more voices than Corbyn had garnered, and the other parties too can learn how to use the system: the libdems have been brilliant. As somebody remarked: when a constituency turns Libdem, it remains libdem BECAUSE the libdems are not in government. This changed after the coaltion, hence their losses, but they have learnt their lesson: better to be an effective opposition which can push the government into doing good stuff (unlike Fartage who pushed the government into doing bad stuff). Same with the Greens and some independent. I can feel some of the progressive little ones uniting as we speak.
The rational thing would be to judge him on his actions he's already binned the rawanda plan so off to a good start in my opinion.
His three ministerial appointments from the Lords are also encouraging. Going for the most competent and professional people to do specific jobs: as Attorney General; in science and prisons.
I think Starmer is realistic. A lot has to change in the UK before the EU will take an application to join seriously, and a successful application is the start of a very long process. Starmer knows this; there's no point raising false hopes which will lead to disappointment.
Working on rejoining the EU is a waste of time and money. Even if it would be politically settled, rejoining would take a long time. Remember if Britain would re-join it would be treated like any other country and there won't be any "specials".
@@rwo5402 "Working on rejoining the EU is a waste of time and money. "
For the foreseeable future, certainly. I think that's what Starmer has in mind; he may personally want the UK to join the EU but he knows the reality.
@@Korschtal Yeah, what I meant was ...at this point in time....
@@rwo5402 So why are belly aching about the current situation as it stands now. The UK isn't being treat "specials" and it's causing havoc!! The reason why Starmer isn't supporting closer relationships with the EU is, that like Cameron also feared; the UK might well get caught-out by the EU's new tax legislation.
A win is a win. Votes dont count. Seats do. A massive majority will give him a good shot.
Perhaps, instead of holding our breath and waiting for the government to succeed, all of us should start thinking about how we can contribute to it.
Yeah, defeatism doesn't help. And dumping on Labour as won't help either.
Enjoyed your talk Michael, I'm just happy the Tory party have been shafted albeit with some concerns for the future as things stand now.
This is a massively anti-Brexit parliament. The push to harmonise with EU standards will be enormous.
We are already harmonised with EU standards and it took 20yrs from 1980s to 2000
No harmony needed. We don’t want you back . Ever. Again.
@@davidbister436 If that were so there would have been no need for the Windsor Framework.
Michael, I recommend you watch Phil’s recent videos on ‘A Different Bias’, especially today’s one on how the Labour govt. will look to start to create the preconditions for the UK to move closer to the EU. It makes the crucial point that the EU will not consider a UK rejoin so long as the official opposition maintains that if it returns to power it will reverse all moves to closer alignment made by a Labour govt. It’s the old Reality Monster that Labour have to grapple with now, not these bloody Brexit lunatics.
A lot of people most affected by the Tories policies are either homeless or hungry and can't vote or have other more important things to think about.
Your commentary is quite accurate; I am sure that Labour realise that their majority is fairly fragile. Not in terms of parliamentary arithmetic of course, but in terms of a future election, a hostile media and a bleak economic outlook.
Clearly there are questions about the consequences of Brexit, which Starmer will not be able to duck in the way Sunak and co have done. You have an opportunity to underline these questions (as you have been doing) and to add to the pressure. Key potential actors are the Lib Dems and the Greens, who I cannot see have anything to lose by pressing Labour on the consequences of Brexit: they do not have to say much about rejoin or even returning into the Single Market. The first task is to acknowledge the accumulating damage.
@martinbennett2228 "Your commentary is quite accurate; " NO it was NOT - basically he makes unfounded assumptions with no fact- based commenary (like Starmer always u turns"
"I am sure that Labour realise that their majority is fairly fragile." It is MAJORITY - that means they will hopefully attempt to seek cross party ruling (because that is Starmer's character) but they will have the power to ram their decisions thorough .
"Not in terms of parliamentary arithmetic of course, but in terms of a future election, a hostile media and a bleak economic outlook." Hostile media granted but that was ALWAYS the case - now Labour can ignore the media for quite a while AND ANY betterment will be seen VERY quickly - the next election will be full of the improvements (once at the bottom, up is the only way).
"Clearly there are questions about the consequences of Brexit, which Starmer will not be able to duck" And why should there be any "ducking" Starmer never wavered in his rejection of Brexit - the subject may be dragged up but the response is simple ' what is, IS, how Labour deals with it is not the right question"
" Key potential actors are the Lib Dems and the Greens, who I cannot see have anything to lose by pressing Labour on the consequences of Brexit" to what end? there is no going back - just making the comment "wow what a lousy deal we got" is about all that can be said!
" they do not have to say much about rejoin or even returning into the Single Market. (" neither a possibility!) The first task is to acknowledge the accumulating damage." WHY? Labour and all the other parties (with reform and tory being the exceptions) KNOW what a mess it was and is and will still be.
The thing is proportional representation only works in a democracy where most voters are intelligent and well-informed.
This completely rules out the UK.
It rules out England for sure🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
No democracy is not for electing oligarchy for 4 years this is a myth of yhe rich to maintain privilege and status
No it does not! But PR has the usual problem in that politicians are involved which means lies and corruption... Direct democracy is the absolute best form of democracy and has far more going for it than all the other so called types of democracy! In direct democracy at least 50% of people get what they wanted , everyone gets to vote for something , it is far more continuant and vastly better for peoples mental health!
@@LondonPower Spare me your buzzwords.
As I said. The people of this country are too stupid for PR. We're lucky we only got 5 Nazis put into the Commons instead of 90.
When the people of this country prove that they can vote based on the good of themselves and their nation and not on populism, racism and idiot causes like Gaza, then there should be PR.
Until then, shut up.
@@greyvoice7949 Brexit is a result of "direct democracy". So no. It is not. It suffers from the same problem as PR in that it requires a well-informed population, not an infestation of gammons and halfwits.
May need a state of the Union address, exposing the harm which has been deposited on the UK by the tories and their pals.
Who ever got in is going to find it hard work to sort the uk out 🙄
I agree with you, 100%, Michael, concerning Starmer and the EU. It was his stance on this, that stopped me voting Labour for the first time in my life. Like many disenfranchised ex-Labour supporters, I voted Green. However, I sincerely wish Starmer and Labour a hugely successful government, and I know his team are a super collection politicians with real conviction, unlike the muppets of the last 14 years, who frankly, totally screwed the country, its citizens, and its world-standing.
No doubt about that. Starmer and the Labour Party will be needing public support and cooperation on their new policies. There's lots to do. However, with determination and guided by pragmatism instead of political theology a lot can still be achieved.
FPTP is indeed ‘so unfair’, but it keeps the fascists to a minimum and that’s its purpose. When the public stop voting for fascists, then we can have PR. Meanwhile, I’m not supporting any system that puts fascists in parliament. Farage and 3 others is about right I’d say.
There will never be a day you do not call the cultural right fascist, even though it is the cultural left who displays all the hallmarks of fascism.
@@old_seadog Too true the whole neoliberal economic agenda is anti-democratic and prefers fundamentally fascistic authoritarian social structures, Singapore and Dubai for example. Neoliberalism requires cheap labour without rights or any power and is in favour of globalisation and the destruction of the Western democracies. And that is according to William Rees Mogg ('The Sovereign Individual') whereas the left wing perspective, see Grace Blakeley ('Vulture Capitalism') is to extend democracy and the practical power and influence of working people. @darthkek1953 should read these books, perhaps, and make a more informed comment.
All the best.
If PR would give Reform 94 seats then I'm more than happy to stick with First Past the Post
Absolutely
Im holding out hope.
Starmer wants to be boring. He knows how frothy people get when you say EU so he just isnt saying it.
We arent rejoining or renegotiating, but you can re-align without making a large noise, co-operate without announcements and make new agreements without changing old ones.
Its a long shot but he knows as well as we do cutting yourself off from europe is a ridiculous handicap on our economy.
The new PM has said country before party, which is the opposite to the Tories who were only interested in lining their pockets.
Starmer has also said Davos over Westminster
The words "being handed a poisoned chalice come to mind." BUT Labour MUST deliver or else Farage and his gang could be the beneficiaries 😢
Impossible? Nah. It will take time. The optics have already changed. Eg. LBC this morning, talking about experts receiving cabinet posts. Guests and callers with expert knowledge and not Reform/Conservative supporters trying to mock the facts.
Sobering to think Reform UK would've won over 90 seats with PR.
Be that as it may they would never be in government under PR.
Brilliant election result ❤ and I’m so pleased your eye is looking better ❤
Thank you @lemongrabloids3103 😊
We must tax the super rich who control our assets but reside in tax havens abroad..even the Swiss do this..the Dutch etcetera it can easily be done
they will find a way to escape, and the middle class will be taxed. dont be so naive.
Go labour!!!!! Go UK get your affairs in order!!! Bye bye Corrupt Tories!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧don’t give up your hopes on EU Michael. It can still happen it could be his way just to get into power and re-shuffle later on this subject.
You do realise they have virtually inherited Labour policies... Labour and Tory are almost the same! They agree on most things...
@@greyvoice7949 still better than having Tories in. I have hopes on EU . Things can happen politicians tend to go against / not fulfilling manifestos in full by reading the public just to gain power. Once in power they might make a U turn on EU subject. Here is me hoping. Nothing more.
@@greyvoice7949 @greyvoice7949 " You do realise they have virtually inherited Labour policies... Labour and Tory are almost the same! They agree on most things..."
Is there some key to that private universe of yours? How about READING the Labour manifesto before cracking one off?
Tax land. Land can’t be moved abroad or hidden under a mattress.
..And get the House of Lords in uproar?? I vèry much doubt mealy-mouthed Starmer has the cojones to do that. I’ll be ready to eat my words ìf he actually did it, though. It would, indeed, be a proper start, imho. Too many exemptions still in place to protect the aristocracy’s grip on ‘land’.
Yet another way to transfer from the poor to the rich. Anyone who owns a home also owns land. Anyone with a garden, or a couple of acres small holdings own land, and that is how small farmers here and abroad are being dispossessed. Those who have large land holdings will avoid or pass on taxes, as they always do.
This clown is just trying to lower the bar. Starmer was hired to get results. Poor results = Labour out.
Michael : Thank you for all your work to rid the UK of inept Government. Please keep a watchful eye.
Good news. It is now past 8.00 pm. Although I am not French, I am a European ecstatic at the result of the French general election. The extreme right Rassemblement National does not have a majority in parliament (Assemblée Nationale), far from it. Two very beautiful countries such as UK and France showing some sense. The left is leading. Now the next big step is across the pond in November. Let keep our fingers crossed. 🤞🤞🤞
I'm with you. It also shows that when it comes to the crunch, the French are way smarter than the Brits.
Me too! I was so relieved to see the genie put back in its box!
Well, I'm supporting President Biden, as his administration has helped me a great deal. Also, he doesn't poo himself like the Orange Stinkbomb.
Would it be fair to say, that Britain is too proud a nation, to knock on the E.U. door, and say, We made a bad mistake leaving, would you please consider letting us rejoin! Maybe someday they may have to do that. 🇬🇧 🇪🇺
@@vijayhoodoo9808you do spout absolute garbage. I would say that you're a Russian bot, but they are smarter than you.
It won't be the first time UK has begged. It took it 3 attempts to be admitted to the EEC.
I don’t think the EU would want us back.
Rejoining EU as a full member, is lala land thinking😊Brits had a sweet deal and chucked it away.
No reason to think they can not get the same deal as everybody else. You have to work and be equal to others. If you behave like you were special and try to cherry pick ever again-yeah, you might get problems really quick. Just be civil and polite and chuck your delusions of superiority. Then it is possible after two decades of work. That is a lotfaster than "never".
Yes correct and Starmer knows that.
I'd like to congratulate Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbin who have represented their constituencies for decades. Stood up to all the shite thrown at them and were overwhelmingly re elected!
I've no respect for Abbott, she put up with crap from Labour and has probably been promised a place in the Lords
Tactical voting pushed the Labour vote down. Can we now just get in with it? Yes, electoral reform is part of the Labour mandate
Don't get too excited. In PR, they will 'explore it.' Turkeys don't tend to vote for Xmas.
Starmer understands that it is very unlikely that we will ever be able to rejoin the EU as it takes two to want this.
If it was only 2, the EU has 27 member states and all have to agree.
@@roelkomduur8073 Yea, even more difficult.
If they want growth, then something has to be done about Brexit. Imports and exports need to run smoothly, for a start. And they need to attract business from the EU. Not just other international Countries. It’s a mess. God knows how they are going to navigate those types of problems. Like I said last week, it’s going to take a flipping genius to solve our country’s problems.. 👍❤️👍
SELF inflicted Problems, yes. The rest-no. Just get the work done, try to satisfy Copenhagen Criteria, article 49.
Just stop shooting your feet, that is half of the problems.
Data out this morning from Sevanta. In Scotland 81% of people voted with a view to removing the Tories. 14% of people voted with a view to gain a Labour government.
Galloway didn't even have the decency to turn up for his result
Glad he’s gone.
Interesting how his loss was glossed over by the media. Just shows where their motives lie. Clicks first, country second for the journalist and client media.
The thing is, all the cash they need is there. Unleash HMRC to go after the billions lost in tax avoidance under the Tories. Close loopholes that let companies worth billions get away with paying no tax. Actually raise taxes for the ultra wealthy.
To those who think they rich will just leave. They won't. They will still be making wads of cash, just slightly smaller wads. They go somewhere else, they lose everything.
Then you can rebuild a solid infrastructure, which brings foreign investors.
Nice fantasy. They will tax the working man to death and call us all racists while they do it.
The UK citizens better hope that Starmers government can fix water supply and waste, prisons, councils going bankrupt, relations with EU, public schools and hospital facilities etc.
Politics is ironic. For decades England berated North Korea for sacrificing its people's economic development in exchange for political gains. Now England does exactly that to its own people.
Not sure what people are expecting, labour made it abundantly clear they will only be doing conservative policys.
And the Tories 😂made it clear they would only be doing Labour policies...
@@greyvoice7949 well the elections are a bun struggle to see which member of the westmonster unipparty (red/blue/yellow/green etc) gets to be governor general of the uk province for the next few years, operating not in the interests of British people, but rather those of the trans national open border capitalist elite. Some have found out that if you cross those powerful people you are out on your ear very quickly
Seems to me that the UK is heading towards the Norway model where they play by the rules, but as non members don't get a say in the rules. It's either that or the economy will continue to crater.
And they are already talking to Germany Michael!
Have to agree with what you're saying here. The UK has little chance to grow outside the EU. Starmer will have an ever decreasing cake to cut up.
I am in the EU and will go on summer holiday in the UK this year, so I'll add a tiny bit to the cake. (unless you beat us in the semis next wednesday, then I will cancel everything and go to Croatia instead )
labour faces the same economic challenges that democrat presidents have faced after taking over from a republican president - high unemployment, crushing debt, and social unrest. unfortunately, the uk has crippled itself [further] by leaving the EU, making economic recovery much more difficult
As a Remainer I feel despair at not being part of the EU and our nearest trading partners.Jobs have been lost,
businesses broken and we are each paying £2000 more a year since this disastrous exit.
Heartbroken.I do wonder about Starmer's decision as more of the population believes Brexit has damaged our country.
Don't fret. Promises are made to be broken. If Trump gets in, Europe will be forced to be much closer.
Again-the UK must prepare and then apply. The decision to let you into the EU is not yours to make. Ensure no such temper tantrum, extortion tactics and cherry picking will ever happen from the UK. Otherwise it makes much more sense for the EU to keep you out. That is your problem from your doing in the UK. Out means out until you can convince us it would be advantageous to let you in.
Blimey, Michael, your "I wish him success" repeated rhetoric is reminding me of the "Brutus is an honourable man" speech from Julius Caesar. As you say, thank god we've got rid of the Tories. It has to get better.
If we had PR, we'd have been waking up on Saturday morning to news of a Tory/Reform coalition governemt that would make the 3rd Reich National Socialists look modest in comparison. The trouble with PR is that you will almost always end up with a coalition government, which means the election manifestos are worthless, because the final policy positions will always be negotiated in secret after the election behind closed doors. Give me Single Transferable Vote, please, rather than FPTP or PR, so that he link between an MP and their constituency is maintained, voters can support smaller parties as their first choice if they wish, and the MP will reflect the overall leaning of their constituency. PR foists MP on constituencies who may have little local support.
We should have a referendum on joining the EU under Labour Government.Did anyone vote for rejoining the EU Party?
Go ahead. Won't change much on the EU side though.
Would've voted for the Rejoin EU party, but this time around and due to FPTP the priority was to unseat the Cons!
You can have referendums until the cows come home. They are meaningless as far as the EU is concerned. Until there is cross party support for such a move Britain won't be admitted to the EU.
Wait until the UK has demonstrated that it actually understands what the EU is, and then that there's strong support for this.
Voting now will be an own goal because the EU isn't interested in having the UK back until it demonstrates this.
@@Korschtal Well, there is Copenhagen Criteria and other requirements they need to tackle first before anyone in Brussels accept an application, so...will take 20 years min. Better start now.
A great synopsis. I wholeheartedly agree with all you have said. I also feel a sense of calm now that the Tories are out of office. I do not agree with Starmer's take on membership of the EU, and like you, I cannot see how he can get much growth in the economy by insisting that we remain outside of the bloc. I was saddened to learn that Farage got elected in Clacton-on-Sea. He'll surely use his platform in Parliament to cause trouble. We're stuck with him.
Thank you @xelakram 😊
@@MichaelLambert1 You're most welcome. Thank you!
Now you get all the crap the tories left behind and try to clean it up while most people won't understand those problems are not labour's fault.
Was getting worried there, glad you're back, and with good reason for being late👍🏼
Much appreciated! 😊
Agreed Michael. Why on earth just not say leaving has been an absolute disaster. Surely a good number of those who voted Labour would have done so if he had said rejoining was a priority. Remind me the percentage of the population that voted in the EU referendum.
But then he would have lost the Redwall to Reform UK. Rerunning the EUref is still a vote loser in a lot of swing seats. There is no political appetite to reopen those wounds I'm afraid.
What nonsense, leaving the EU was crucial. Thank goodness we are out.
What's concerning is Starmer wants to keep is very much in the orbit of the EU, that is a terrible idea.
Economic growth, housing, national debt, education and the Health Service; all will take time to turn around. It will take decades to undo the damage the Conservatives have inflicted on our country. The wealthy do need to pay more and we do need to remove long term liabilities and inefficient government spending. An end to PFIs and relying on the private sector for social housing etc.
Closer cooperation with our European colleagues is essential, especially when you consider the mercurial nature of American politics. Europe needs to be able to stand on its own if necessary.
It's a pity that the dignity displayed in so many of the speeches you refer to (I don't disagree btw) wasn't really on view in so much of the speeches during their time. I think of most of Sunak's oratory output (utterly hopeless), Mordaunt's embarrassing 'stand up and fight' crap, Shapp's offensive spiv nonsense, etc, etc ,etc. The Truss display was utterly tragic (such an inadequate and awful person and her behaviour towards Ros Atkins of the BBC in the aftermath was petulant beyond belief). I just wonder what her poor left of centre academic dad thinks of her. She is a dis grace.
I agree with you absolutely - what a relief just getting up in the morning knowing the Tories are no longer in government. It feels as if more competent people are in charge. But will Starmer have the courage to change the FPTP system and how will he go about building trust with the EU. If he does nothing he will be wasting his time as the Tories will return one day and ruin it all. Remember Surestart.
Hi Michael, see a different bias, showing David Lammy going to reset relations in Europe. There may be some hope for us yet?
Phil suddenly cares about international politics after claiming he doesn't care about genocide. lol, the guy is a melt.
Labour Government will be okay
And OK is plenty good enough for any government.
The Conservatives set the house on fire and now they're just walking away.
Been like that from the time of ex PM Cameron.
I live in East Yorkshire.....many of the farming fraternity are Tory voters but refused to vote Tory this time, mainly due to disliking Sunack & Johnson's antics. As die - hard Tories many chose not to vote at all.
I think this is why the turn out to vote was so low.
I'm hoping for improvement & to see growth in the economy. Where it will come from I really don't know.
"Where it will come from I don't really know"
The population of 67 million and being one of the most developed economies in the world might be a good place to look.
So many doomers, lol. UK govt has survived for about 700 years. We'll be fine.
Starmer has a narrow window to lead by advocating the complete rejoining of the EU including the Euro and Schengen. Sitting on the fence has a big risk ; you can fall off !
I said the same a few weeks ago as Michael has said here. I did take it further that the public could then turn on Labour as the real state of the country hits home and we could see another long term Tory government to come. I would not be surprised if this is the case. A lot of the people in this country take no interest in politics and are only interested in the here and now. When that here and now is even more difficult they will blame those in power, ergo vote out Labour. I also think that its possible a lot of Tories are happy to not be in control right now.
Michael,we have to look forward,,,,,,,,,,,,give labor a chance.............be very aware of reform
Labour knows the road back to Europe has a major problem. That problem is the Conservative Party and Reform UK.
In order for any country to be considered for EU membership there must be broad political agreement in the country on the desire to join. It is not in Labours' power to make the Conservatives and Reform want to rejoin.
So they are powerless to deliver rejoining. What they can do though, is everything possible to reduce the disadvantages of being outside the EU.
What Labour promised to do was what they could deliver, not what was out of their control.
Like running a 100 metre race with a fridge on your back...and Johnson in that fridge!
Especially with the BBC calling it a coup.
The low turnout was largely because most people thought it was a foregone conclusion. The tories employed deliberate voter suppression. I wanted a Labour government but voted Lib Dem. The tories have always won in my constituency. Now I have a Lib Dem MP. Most of Cambridgeshire is Lib Dem. It's never happened before and happened because Labour voters voted Lib Dem.
Over 50% of the population voted for a progressive party - Labour, Lib Dem, Green, or SNP, and over 50% wanted the tories out.
They got what they voted for. Democracy works.
Labour came second in Northampton North in 2017 with 18,258 votes.
Labour won Northampton North in 2024 with 18,209 votes.
Labour 32% vote share in 2019 lose 60 seats.
Labour 33% vote share in 2024 win 209 seats. wtf is going on.
Labour 40% vote share in 2017 win 35 seats.
Every constituency had a lower turnout than in 2019.
Interesting post Michael. I'm a loyal SNP voter, voted SNP....but also wanted a Labour government.
Hoka..very correct observations but have faith... they couldnt do any worse...you have to give them a chance....however the MESS that has been left to them aything will seem better...Good luck and animos. .🇪🇦
If they won't talk about Brexit, like Q.T. and the BBC ect.,It won't happen. We must keep on giving them a very BREXIT hard time, Make them !
I don't Labour or the Lib Dems need convincing.
A 100 metre race with a fridge on their back ... coughs ... genius
jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, I am sure not many people will know what this means from an old geezer
There are 2 burning issues facing our nation, namely:
1) Can economic growth be achieved, and if so by what means?
2) Can the rapid rise in inequality - along with the steep rises in the cost of living - be reversed?
*1) ECONOMIC GROWTH.* In order to achieve economic growth, the dominant factor - as Michael rightly points out - is that the UK is able once more to join the EU. It's hard to see how else the UK Government could POSSIBLY grow our economy UNLESS and UNTIL this is achieved. IMO this will not be possible for some considerable time, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is Starmer's emphatic statement that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES will he ever consider this as a possibility.
*2) COMBATTING INEQUALITY.* Whilst this is not easy, it is VERY possible IF the government have the political will so to do. But this will require the government to impose PROPER taxation on giant and multinational companies - instead of the PITTANCE which they currently charge these companies. Sadly, however, Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer have ALSO ruled this out COMPELTELY and UTTERLY.
The money raised from levying proper taxes on these companies would enable the government to rebuild our broken nation. If the govenment rely solely on increasing income tax, and on borrowing, then nothing will be solved, although some problems might be deferred/delayed until a later date.
If, as seems likely, this government merely tinker around the edges, then sooner or late the electorate will turn to some far-right charismatic populist leader - such as Nigel Farage - in the hope the he will make life better for them.
Also, unless Starmer decides to implement Electoral Reform - changing from FPTP to PR with STV - then sooner or later Labour will lose, and lose badly - just as Michael is saying.
The likely scenarios I foresee could be either that:
a) Farage becomes leader of the Tory Party, or that
b) Someone else from the far right of the Tory Party becomes leader - Priti Patel, Robert Jenrick, or someone else, or even
c) Reform UK grow massively in popularity - probably under Farage.
At that point, we could look forward to all our democratic safeguards being removed, and the UK becoming a quasi-fascist one-party authoritiarian state.
Every extreme regime which has replaced a democracy has done so either through a military coup, or through the ballot box, after a period of economic downturn and increased poverty and inequality, regardless of the country in question. EXAMPLES:
* *Russia.* Putin was democratically elected, but has turned Russia into a de facto authoritarian dictatorship.
* *Hungary.* Orban was democratically elected, but has removed as many democratic safeguards as possible, and now wields total power in Hungary.
* *India.* Again, Modi was elected, but has manoeuvred himself into a position of having almost total power.
Good points.
Yes it's good that the damn Tories are out but they have caused sooo much damage so whoever is replacing them they have so much to clean up 😱 anyway, hopefully we will rejoin the EU one day 🤞🙏👍
Hi Michael.
I see Starmer as a very intelligent man, so why does he deny EU membership?
1. What is best: Saying we won't join or come back from Brussels and saying: "They won't have us, our old membership card is shredded."?
2. The Tories are the key to EU membership, like it or not. So he waits until the Tories gets the idea to rejoin, it will solve a lot of problems. EU will NOT let the UK in without Tory support. When the Tories give the thumbs up, the train can start. Right now, it is just a little shunting at the station.
3. EU is very much busy with other things and the queue in front of the UK is very long:
Candidate countries for EU membership: Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, (Turkey), and Ukraine.
I do not believe the UK will be allowed to jump the queue. The other countries will be very angry.
4. He will try to align more and more, get things fixed, such as corruption, House of Lords, and so on. So if an opportunity somehow comes up, the UK will be ready.
Starmer knows all this, because he has been to meetings in Brussels.
I am 63 years young, and I know I will never see the UK in the EU.
There can be no attempt at joining the EU until there is cross party consensus & an overwhelming majority of the UK's population in favour. There is still a long way to go before the conditions are irrevocably united & it's unlikely anyone in their 60s will see the UK once again a member state of the EU.
@@LowPlainsDrifter60 I agree. It is simply bad timing starting to talk joining. The UK are quite a way down on EU's To-do list. I don't think we can blame the EU for that, after all it was the UK that left the Union, and there are other countries, the UK is not the only one.
You have to take into account of tactical voting which made a big difference
TQ for videos Michael. Speaking personally I am just so grateful that the awful corrupt and incompetent Tory government is gone, I was always a Tory voter some years ago but i didn't recognise them any more.
I wish Starmer hadn't said "We've won a clear mandate to govern". This is disingenuous and deflects from the truth. A technical mandate, yes, thanks to FPTP, but not one for outright government. It's a largest party mandate - and not very large at that. I wish he'd just said honestly "Our mandate to govern is admittedly quite weak." But like Blair in 2005, he chooses to stay in denial of the withering unfairness of FPTP.
Because the Tories always acknowledged that they ruled based on FPTP, and had a broad and inclusive government?
He has the spread of seats is across the UK and centre to left parties took 58% of the vote right 38%
Also of that 23% a good chunk will leave the Tories when the dystopia fiction world that they stirred up with project fear doesn't emerge and taxation ticks along
Stop whining!
Hasn't worried the conservatives until they lost the general election.
@@patrikfloding7985 : indeed, you'd think Labour would have more integrity.
You have to fix the country bottom -up. Start with the polluters and clean up the water supply. Next do infrastructure and the schools.
Then fix trade and finance.
The big one will be introducing and enforcing laws for waste, fraud and abuse.
The big thing Labor needs to do is grow a set and use the power all day, every day. The Tories wrecked the place and therefore do not have any credibility. Treat them as pariahs.
NO - THE BIG THING LABOUR NEEDS TO DO IS CLOSE OUR BORDERS TO ANY MORE LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, BECAUSE THIS IS STRANGLING THE COUNTRY, SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY. WE NEED A 15 YEAR MORATORIUM ON ANY MORE IMMIGRATION UNTIL WE GET BACK ON OUR FEET, AND ALL THE NECESSARY EXTRA INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.
Yawn yawn, when will you wake up and realise you are being lied to?
Will the UK Government be able to reclaim the Money spent on the failed Rwanda Immigration Policy from the Rwandan Government, amounting to Millions of Taxpayers money in this Country? Should Braverman be held responsible for this Public waste of money, OUR money, not hers, to use for personal gain at our expense?
1. No chance!
2. Yes!
Yes the public should be demanding that money for the Rwanda scheme should be claimed back from the Rwanda government. Also when the Asylum seekers have been granted Asylum here, they to should be paying towards the hotel costs which have provided lodgings curtesy of the Tax Payer.
Good afternoon michael
I think that the figures of voting people was lower than normal because of tactical voting as many had in mind getting rid of the tories.
Anyway labour won so that s the main thing .
Thank you for your clip today michael xx😊
Turn out was probably low because of all the "Labour will win anyway" talk.
Yes, Michael; even though I wanted Labour to win, I still think the fact that they got such a huge majority with just 34% of the vote is wrong. The first past the post system is completely unfair and hopefully some kind of PR will be brought in at some stage. But on a more positive note, at least we have grown ups in charge of the country again. For that alone, we should be very grateful.
Grown ups. Labour 😂
Don’t forget those disenfranchised voters (like me 😖) who could not physically get to a polling station and had to rely on a postal vote … how many postal votes arrived too late to get the votes returned on time OR who didn’t receive their postal vote at all?????Lest we forget 😖.
Second by, second, minute by, minute, hour by, hour, day by, day, week by, week, month by, month, Year by, year given the time and with the team he has put together in KIER WE TRUST TO DELIVER ON BE HALF OF THE WHOLE NATION AND NOT JUST THE FEW.
Good to see your post. I will watch later. I was looking out for it and getting a bit worried that you were absent. The relief, for me, is currently immense.
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02:12 "My view has been all along that outside of the EU we will never recover." And the EU is famously a place where third countries that have systematically wrecked their national economy and trade relations will go to recover...
The EU isn't the old EEC. The UK will _have_ to recover outside the EU, because a healthy national economy is now part of the accession criteria.
They need to be given a fair chance , 15 yrs of pain
To be fair Michael, there are many prerequisites for the UK to start a join the EU process. (1) the EU will never consider an application that is not supported by the party in Government AND by the main opposition party (Tory?), (2) there are many criterii to be met (Copenhagen criterii). Yes some EU countries do not meet all of them BUT it will CERTAINLY be mandatory for a new country, (3) there is an obligation to roll back many destructions caused by Tories (OZ and NZ treaties, de-regulations, change of standards, etc). (4) No hope to get back all the (exhorbitant) advantages the UK had. NO WAY. (5) the EU is the result of decade-long negociations between EU countries (YES including the UK) so forget about cherry-picking as 450 milion EU citizern have NO TASTE to change the EU for much smaller UK.
So Starmer is facing a dilemma: start possibily eroding the voters capital by announcing upfront his intent to join the EU because it will not be an easy walk in a flower field and on the other hand, to rely on an hypothetic second term (usually with reduced majority) to start the hard work on a decade-long enterprise is very hasardous.
So, I think the time is now if the UK wants to join the EU (But will it today in large numbers?) and PLEASE Britons, stop thinking that the SM or CU are available without joining.
Greetings from France.
Plus we're likely to have to a cept the Euro to rejoin
Norway model is possible without being a member: pay to play with no say!
@@crb9899omg this again . Are you Norway? No rejoin. We don’t want you back.
@@crb9899 Yes indeed but (1) it is very unlike the UK to accept all without a say and (2) Norway is part of the EEA which has stated they would reject an applicqtion from the UK. So, close to impossible.
@@keithparker1346 Not likely. Definitley. Stop ignoring reality.
I like the way you so politely put the boot in.
Of note from the election:
A lot of postal votes went missing, including mine and my wife’s. For the 2019 election, 8.9 million postal ballots were issued.
The combined popular vote for the tories and Regress UK Ltd, was greater than that for Labour.
You mean Reform UK Ltd. Grow up kid.
@@Anti-Peaceforcepolice I know what I meant. Don’t presume to tell me what I think. Kid.
@@bettyswallocks6411 Nutjob.