How to Make Seed Starting & Potting Up Mixes on a Budget: Materials, Mix Ratios, My Formula
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I made my own seed starter this year based on your videos. I have had an outstanding success with the seeds sprouting. In the past I bought seed starter. It seemed more wood chips than anything. Had less than stellar success with that.
I am in Central Missouri and Lowes sell large cubic bags of peat moss. I bought 6 bags 2 years ago, store them in my covered barn typically use 1 bale per spring and fall seed starting season. Currently at Lowes they have 3 cu. feet bales for 19.98. Makes a lot of starting potting mix!!
Yep thats what I use. Its good stuff
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Great information thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge
Glad to share for sure.
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TIp: Wear a mask or mix it outdoors. Mix perlite with a little water has fine dust particles that can go air borne . Do not breathe in. Even potting mix, people may find they are allergic. Always read instructions on the back of the product bag.🌻
Good tips. Thanks
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Oh darn!! I just mixed a bunch with vermiculite & starter mix in my home atrium
Where I live, Jiffy Mix are the small boxes of corn muffins, pizza crust, etc. sold on the baking aisle at the grocery store (and manufactured here in Chelsea, Michigan, home of the actor Jeff Daniels!)
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Thank you very much - Robyn
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This is exactly the mix i came up with last year. Worked great
Its good stuff.
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Thanks for your recipe! I was pricing seed starting mix and 😮
Yep making it is the cheapest way to go.
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Very great video and perfect mix!
The small percentage of worm casting is ideal for getting some biology in the mix!
The biology does help and will multiply in the containers. So it is great to do.
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Solid info Gary, Adding a wetting agent like yucca powder with the initial watering is something I add to this.
Good tip.
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Gary, thank you teaching how to make this mix!
The Jiffy mix here in NJ is up to $15 to $25 per bag. Uline just delivered the vermiculite within one day from PA! Total cost with shipping $121. The boxes are about 4.5 tall! Even if the jiffy went down to $7 in the store, your mix is a great way to save.
Wow that is getting so expensive.
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I use old canna coco coir and worm castings and Dr Earth and its Amazing!
That works. Dr. E is too expensive for me though.
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Even cheaper at big box stores . Look in insulation isle for vermiculite.
Good tip.
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Insulation vermiculite is different from agricultural grade and all the info I've seen says to not use the industrial product, I just can't remember the exact reasoning right now... but certainly worth researching.
To clarify: Vermiculite is for water retention. Perlite is for aeration. Lots of comments with this question.
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Hey Gary waz up. Lol. Man i joined one of your channel. Haven't been hear for a min. But , but i haven't forgot ya. Your channel is Educational at best. 10/10. Keep it simple reggie. Man save a lot of money. Yes looks so beautiful like black Gold. Can you use peat moss and sand with compost? Old time said use sand. 2nd can u grow in Mulch.
Thanks so much. Sand give it weight and can make a fine mix. It mostly helps for drainage. Using earth in it is very similar.
Let me know if you have more questions.
FYI my very first year gardening I brought my homemade compost in to help an indoor plant and I couldn't understand why I had tons of flies in my house. I mean tons! It took a long time to realize where they came from.
Yeah brings in eggs unfortunately
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Hello! If your mixing large amount of any soil for your garden and you have a friend with a cement mixer, borrow it! Mixes this really nice for you. 👍
That is golden.
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I just ordered the Vermiculite from Uline. Minimum purchase is two bags (4 cu ft each) for $39. So the total is $78, plus $40.50 for shipping to Chicago, plus $4.88 for tax. You would buy Vermiculite-Grade I for horticultural use. Thanks for the video, Gary!
It's good stuff. Seems pricey u front but it really reduces cost as you buy in bulk.
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Can't go wrong with this staying mix! I screen the peat moss to catch the larger chunks/sticks but that's not completely necessary.
It works well.
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I do too,as it is better to drop in the plants Ive germanated from the paper towel and baggie method.This time lm going to use MI gardeners method of paper towel in a condiment container with a lid so the seeds can grow upward.l germinated impatient seeds(18 days usual) in 5 days.
Please use coco coir instead of peat moss. The peat bogs are being removed for gardens. They are a vital habitat.
Uline is very competitively priced but they have a 2-bag minimum for each, at $39 per bag. If you bought perlite also, that would be 4 bags (@160 dollars), just so people know.
There is another brand, PVP, where you can buy just one bag. "Horticultural Grade Vermiculite". The "medium" seems very close to Gary's "fine".
Thanks. The labeling does vary.
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Good video !! What do you use for your outdoor potting mix?
I actually make mine. Look up making container mix on why channel.
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Thanks, Gary. Shouldn't you add dolomitic lime to adjust the pH since peat is acidic? If the pH of the mix is off it can affect nutrient absorption.
Its not as acidic as we are told but you can add in some for sure.
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Do you have a recipe for raised beds or grow bags?
Yep search making container mix.
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Just curious: Im using Coir this year, and I prefer to hydrate/wash/sterilize first. It’s also a lot easier to measure out wet. Will the recipe change drastically by doing this? Like, should I go to 6 to 1, since the coir expands so much? Or am I just overthinking things? 😅
I dont think it will matter much. Just eyeball it and add more vermiculite if you feel it needs more. Just use this as a guideline.
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Can i just crush the coarser vermiculite into finer pieces or will that not be the same? I guess could sift out the larger pieces if crushing isnt a good idea
I think it is a bit of work to crush it. You could if its not an issue. I depends how course yours is.
If you don't use all the moist mix can it be stored in a container with lid for a few days til you use it again?
Inside yes. A loose lid is okay. If it dries, regular tap water is fine.
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Is Peatmoss not acidic. Someone mentioned adding Dolomitic lime to balance out the PH to a neutral level. I believe it is 1 gallon Peatmoss, add 2 tbsp of the lime. 🤷♀️
It is more acidic and you can put some lime in it to buffer it.
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Where did you get your metal buckets from and how big are they
Those are from Home Depot by their trash cans. I dont know the size.
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Should organic lime be added to the peat moss due to the pH ?
You can. I dont do it but a little bit does increase the pH.
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I don't have fungus gnats but I have damping off disease with peat moss. Would boiling water prevent the disease?
It sure does.
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Where do buy Perlite? Thanks for the Uline source for the fine vermiculite
Usually garden stores and the big box stores that have garden sections (Home Depot, Walmart, etc.) sell bags of perlite.
I dont use a lot and have found bags at big box stores at times.
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Hello. How long does the mix last once mixed unused? I have a small space but want to make my own seed starting and potting mix for my containers.
In theory, years.
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I’m a little confused? Watch your channel as a favorite. I’ve often heard you refer to Perlite as “eye candy” and not needed. I basically quit using it when mixing. It either serves a real purpose or it doesn’t?
True. And I say you only need 2 ingredients. It the big bags you buy its eye candy for like for filling containers and raised beds. There just isnt enough it to matter. It has little value. In seed starting and potting up it can have value for drainage at about this ratio. But its about the quantity that matters and I probably should have clarified way back. A few pieces popping up isnt much but eye candy.
I just checked line and you have to buy 2 bags of vermiculite @ $39 each and $40 shipping total $129.00
Its a big outlay but if you use it often, it is a good way to go.
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what about coco coir instead of peat moss?
That will work. I experimented with it in the past.
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I know you’re zone 7 Maryland. What area in Maryland. I’m in the Frederick county area.
Im in Howard County
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Hi. What size is your cup? 8oz or 16oz? Thanks, Natalie
I don't know actually. It just picked it for it is size. But it probably around 32 ounces.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN I was thinking it might be larger. Otherwise,I would be sitting there waiting for the cows to come home before my bucket got filled. 😂
As he explained, it doesn't matter what size it is because you are using ratios, not precise measures. Sometimes my container is 2 or 3 gallons... depends on how much mix you need.
Link for the vermiculite?
If you must make your mix indoors, this nurse recommends wearing a mask with the dry peat moss.
Good tip.
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Coco coir killed my tomatoe seedlings. 200 seedlings and a months grow time lost. .ost seeds did not even germinate
So sad. Coir itself should be a direct kill but I found a combo or peat is best.
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the last bag of jiffy mix i got was like 95% peat moss, what a rip offf
Yep mostly peat
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Peat moss is an incredibly unsustainable ressource, please consider using coco coir instead!
I did research. Coco Coir is quite damaging from clearing forests is South America, to cost of processing is fossil fuel and water, and cost of shipping across the seas and the carbon foot print. Canadian bogs are managed quite well. Not perfect but better than people think.
Peat moss mining is highly destructive to both the environment and climate. It is a massive carbon sink and once disturbed, the carbon is immediately released into the atmosphere as more greenhouse gas. Yes, it is renewable, but it may take a 1,000 years to regrow... literally. Last spring I developed a peat and coir free mix that worked beautifully... never had such good seedling growth, but I do use very high grade compost. I deal with fungus gnats etc. by using biological controls. The peat fraction of my mix is made from composted and finely shredded wood chips.
Not everyone has access to high grade compost unfortunately. So saying dont use it, really doesn't work at this time. Its all about choices. As I use peat at times, I refuse to buy plastic water bottles and such. Swap out what we can do to help the environment. Cheers.
And cow farts are destructive too. They are killing us! Away with cows! 😂
Rusted garden, unless he edited it out after your reply, I don't think you said not to use peat. He was just saying what the problems are with it for anyone interested.
As far as a good compost goes, that's something we can make from our kitchen scraps and yard trimmings, well curated materials of course, but our common waste materials nonetheless.
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@@justsayin5609 I keep modifying my potting mix depending on what materials I have, but here's a good starting point...
2 parts shredded aged wood chips (this is my peat moss component, but unlike peat moss it isn't high acid so I don't have to add anything to raise the pH)
2 parts finished compost (whatever kind I have, or sometimes several kinds... Johnson-Su, thermophilic, vermicompost etc.)
1 part good garden soil
1 part perlite.
Growth was like nothing I've ever seen in nearly 70 years of having my own garden... dad gave me my first plot when I was 10 and gave me free reign to do and learn - God bless his ancient soul... he died at 97.
I'm presently working on trying to eliminate this commercial input with biochar. The perlite is strictly for drainage so the biochar may do the same job and also provide a strong nutrient base. Have 27 tomato plants under lights in my workshop with attached heated greenhouse in central Ontario zone 4a...Snow Country! My first goal is to see if there's such a thing as too much biochar in a mix - I have reason to believe this is possible. Once this is ascertained, I'll run a test with good high nutrient potting soil augmented with varying rates of perlite and biochar to see what effect each has on growth. I'm hoping the biochar works, but I think the challenge is going to be how much water it retains. The mix has to drain well. Hope this helps.