Timing on your video is quite excellent. One of my customers asked me to replace their old T stat with something newer with remote control capability. I chose the Honeywell 9000. Good to know I made the right decision.
Honestly I have a Nest and it's not too bad.. App seems like it was designed by a 2 year old but it's fully functional.. Was free through a program with our electric/gas company so I'm not complaining. Moving soon and plan on using in the new house.
Removing a stat has to be done from the Web, can't be done from the App. Also, you get monthly usage reports on heating/cooling hours used per month and a comparison to the same month of the prior year, which is nice. Not all flavors support 2 stage AC, so when using for commercial units make sure to buy the correct one.
Have had experiences with several thermostats and Honeywell smart thermostats like the Prestige and 9000 work the best. They do a good job inserting a couple of extra cycles per hour to keep the temperate more consistent and the overcooling feature does a good job controlling high humidity. Some other brands will not overcool until the temperature goes above the setpoint with each cycle. Honeywell will keep it a couple of degrees cooler during periods of higher humidity if you enable overcooling. One thing mine lacks is any type of lockouts on the cooling and heating. If you say turn the AC down low with a temporary override. When the override expires it will turn the heat on right away if the temperature is below the heating setpoint. It will do this even it it's 80 degrees outside. Should have some type of delay at least when running in autochangeover mode. Same with heat. Lets say someone turns the heat up to 75 till 5 pm. When it goes back to schedule and the cooling is set to 74, it will turn the AC on to lower the temperature to 74 even if it's 20 degrees outside. C'mon Honeywell use some logic! I want a true set it and forget it with fail safes. I put my own lockouts so the heat can't run if it's above 65 and the AC won't run if it's below 50. Other than that no complaints.
I have the same exact thermostat. I have forced air for air conditioning and then a hydronic boiler for heating on initial setup do I choose forced air or boiler.
Dear Mr. pipes my name is Glenn Smith I’m building a home here in Saint Augustine Florida it’s a 1900 square-foot home the AC guy is coming out today to talk to the builder on his budget sheet he has a Linux written down to be put in I said no to the builder on Lenix and I suggested a Bosch unit which he will check into but we have to stay within budget what would be your second and third best unit for here in Florida for my situation I appreciate it very much
Some thermostats require a jumper. Does this one require that connection? How do I know? The person who tossed out my $250 claimed it was bad and replaced it with a $20 one. They claimed it not heating was normal and that the heat pump had to be subsidized with a kerosene heater. They didn’t connect the emergency heat jumper. There is more to the story but don’t see the need to tell the entire drama.
I have a 2 story house. one furnace. the colder it gets outside naturally the more the furnace runs. The upstairs gets hotter the more colder it gets outside. I have the honeywell rth9580 thermostat downstairs. Ive contemplated installing another rth9580 upstairs,but not sure how that would work, or just moving the downstairs thermostat upstairs. Not sure what to do. I like the honeywell rth9580 but not sure if it will handle 2 thermostats controlling the same furnace unless they talk to each other????
The most difficult part was to wi fi setting and customer call cust support....why???wires in tstat base connector so small plastic ....and tstat wire seems too big for small cavity. Is my only complaint Took me 5 min to inst and 5 to wire and 45 min to connect to wifi. U rite about Response Time....pls get people w no accent on cust support We are in America pls
Hi Mike! Can I have some advice I really want to go on my own doing this type of work I know how to do the stuff it's been a dream I've loved furnaces and ac since I was little the problem is I'm only 22 and I guess that scares people I really want to do this but idk I guess some people think I can't do it
@@PipeDoctor thanks I've just been putting my self put there telling people I do good work I'm reliable and if there patient with me I can be a extremely great tech
I need help with my new 9000 Honeywell thermostat. It was professionally installed. I want it to use heat, to warm my home, and cool to cool it down, automatically, WITHOUT swiping the MODE from cool to heat. Is that possible. ..?..
Hey Mike, I have a Nest 3rd generation installed in my furnace (Kerosene) I also have an old Honeywell and I installed together with the Nest, the reason I installed the honeywell was because just in case the Nest fails, the honeywell kicks in, I set the nest at 55 degrees and the honeywell at 48. Do you see any problem having two installed together??
Whats the deadband on this stat? 2° above and 2° below setpoint? I didnt see anything in the manual if it was changeable. Looking to change out my venstar.
Mikey, I've installed the Honeywell home 9000 today everything installed fine except in the IOS Resideo app. The Resideo app does not have the Honeywell Home 9000 thermostat in the selection list, therefor I cannot control it from apple phone which has the latest IOS version 16.2. Resideo app is the problem as they don't have it as part of the selection. I've been to the Resideo website but I can't find anything regarding this thermostat. I bought this thermostat so that I can control it from my iphone not my deskstop. Any ideas ? Have you heard anything about this issue with this thermostat not being on the Resideo iphone app? thanks for your help.
for excitement, touch all the thermostat wires together at once, except for common. Actually, I don't know how the control boards handle that now days, years ago with simple relays or controls they'd bang everything on at once, fan heat and cooling making a giant lossy dehumidifier 🤣
Dear Pipe Doctor PI, I have a Nest thermostat which I hate hate hate! I wonder if you know of one thermostat which can go on wi-fi by itself, that the numbers on the screen be large(because I need reading glasses every time I need to check on the temp), and that it has a large screen. Those are my 3 needs. The reason I need for it to detect the wi-fi is because I shut off my wi-fi at night, and in the morning I turn it back on. But the nest thermostat will not pick up on the wi-fi every morning, but rather needs me to re-program it as it if were the first time I am connecting it to the wi-fi. This is one of the reasons I no longer change my temperature from my couch using my computer because I have to get up and reprogram the unintelligent thing !!
Hi Mike, you make awesome videos. One quick question- what digital thermostat can I use as a reverse-acting thermostat as I have a normally open zone valve? Thanks
@@PipeDoctor Maybe he did not know how to use, I agree there is a learning curve when it comes to Nest. Have to get rid of the "learning" feature and have it on a schedule. Anyway, Like the videos and your installs convinced me to go with a Bosch instead of Trane. Much love from Florida.
Mikey, I’ve picked my 2 numbers, but I’m not going to divulge them for fear that I might win one of those Nest thermostats‼️😂 Nest, in my view, is a novelty gadget. It has become extremely popular, primarily because of it’s unique cosmetic design, and NOT because of what’s “under the hood”, so to speak. I installed an upstairs and a downstairs Prestige® IAQ with Equipment Interface Module Honeywell thermostat. They are complicated because they require the Module which must be located elsewhere in the house to work. Thermostat requires only 2 wires, R & C❗️The system also uses an outdoor temp/humidity sensor and in my case, 2 remote indoor wireless temperature sensors. Those 2 indoor remotes + the main Prestige perform the function of temperature averaging for greater indoor comfort! Wishing the winner of those Nest’s, the very best! They make very attractive paperweights for one’s desk😂
I actually need a new thermostat lol Mine is acting up. I just moved and it's terrible but don't have the funds to replace it right now until I start work haha
Does this thermostat talk outside your local wi-fi network? If so, non-starter. I am tired of all these corps. having access to my private information. If they want access to me, then they can approach me with an offer to pay me for tracking my every move…I even got rid of my smart phone, basic flip phone with no apps from here on out.
Walter, How do you spell, paranoid❓Our smartphones, smart tv’s, smart thermostats, Roku, Fire tv, Amazon Echo Dots & Shows, home automation, the list is endless. I’m proud to say I own all of them. “The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself” Credit: FDR.
To delete old locations log into your total connect comfort account from from a web browser. Once your logged in go to locations and click the settings button on the right side of the one you want to delete. At the bottom/left of the settings is a button to delete the location.
Hay buddy, I love you mannnn, anyway for your interest cuz I know all you do , like me, Is work talk, wife gets mad, but I have I’m pretty sure learning from you an R22 system from when they built this condo, wish I can get new but I stopped paying credit cards to survive like 8 yrs ago so financing is off the table, the Fan stays on and doesn’t shut off once it reaches set temperature… yes , it’s an old system from like 1990… a Payne, the compressor has been replaced though like 5 yrs ago… well I know that that part is stuck (Forgot the name), I just don’t know what it looks like, I’m a plumber but not an hvac guy, they smart and talented, at least they should be right, (Engineering)… well love you guys down there at pipe doctor. I wish I can install by Mikey pipes a Bosch, that would be epic, but In my dreams Pedro, in my dreams( Bound by honor blood in blood out movie)Lol. What can you tell me and what’s your thoughts on Payne systems, I see you never come across those over there.
Easy to remove, just need to know the unique network MAC address of the old units. U can find it on the old device if u still have it. U can also reconnect the old units if u have them and they are still working. If not, go into the network router serving your home network, find the MAC addresses of all the units online and copy those MAC numbers down. Then by process of elimination remove the ones on the my connect portal that u did not write down. There is also free software out there that will scan your network (wired or wifi) and can give u the same info, IP address and MAC address. And my lucky number is 48.
@@PipeDoctor hi Mikey. If u know an IT person they can easily find the MAC addresses of the units currently online on the home wifi network and then use that list to eliminate the ones showing on the Honeywell web portal. I had to do the same. I had one for a friend go belly up and he threw it out. He had 4 online and 5 listed in the portal. I went to his home router and found the MAC and IP addresses of the 4 units online, copied those MAC addresses down and went to the Honeywell portal and deleted the one I didn’t copy down. Was a 30 minute process to get the info, verify against devices online, then look in the Honeywell list and delete.
or just remove them all and add back the currently installed ones, that's assuming they don't have tonsof them installed in multiple properties all over the place.
Not a fan of Ecobee thermostats either…..kind miss the days when you don’t need your thermostat, FRIDGE, dishwasher, microwave, washing machine all “smart” and connected to internet and get “updates to firmware” which ends up bricking the unit 🤦🏼 Sometimes Ben the smartest of things can just be dumb😉
I have been using two 9000’s for almost 5 years now and really like them. Currently have them connected to Alexa and working great.
Timing on your video is quite excellent. One of my customers asked me to replace their old T stat with something newer with remote control capability. I chose the Honeywell 9000. Good to know I made the right decision.
Love your intros, your good vibes are contagious!
Looks like you’re going in reverse and it was freaking me out 😂
Honestly I have a Nest and it's not too bad.. App seems like it was designed by a 2 year old but it's fully functional.. Was free through a program with our electric/gas company so I'm not complaining. Moving soon and plan on using in the new house.
Removing a stat has to be done from the Web, can't be done from the App. Also, you get monthly usage reports on heating/cooling hours used per month and a comparison to the same month of the prior year, which is nice. Not all flavors support 2 stage AC, so when using for commercial units make sure to buy the correct one.
Have had experiences with several thermostats and Honeywell smart thermostats like the Prestige and 9000 work the best. They do a good job inserting a couple of extra cycles per hour to keep the temperate more consistent and the overcooling feature does a good job controlling high humidity. Some other brands will not overcool until the temperature goes above the setpoint with each cycle. Honeywell will keep it a couple of degrees cooler during periods of higher humidity if you enable overcooling. One thing mine lacks is any type of lockouts on the cooling and heating. If you say turn the AC down low with a temporary override. When the override expires it will turn the heat on right away if the temperature is below the heating setpoint. It will do this even it it's 80 degrees outside. Should have some type of delay at least when running in autochangeover mode. Same with heat. Lets say someone turns the heat up to 75 till 5 pm. When it goes back to schedule and the cooling is set to 74, it will turn the AC on to lower the temperature to 74 even if it's 20 degrees outside. C'mon Honeywell use some logic! I want a true set it and forget it with fail safes. I put my own lockouts so the heat can't run if it's above 65 and the AC won't run if it's below 50. Other than that no complaints.
Thank you for your reply. Went deeper into the settings and was able to find location to convert thermostat between Fahrenheit and Celsius.
I love that Honeywell 9000 I have it at my home my business and my cabin
I have the same exact thermostat. I have forced air for air conditioning and then a hydronic boiler for heating on initial setup do I choose forced air or boiler.
Could not find any link under settings to make the change.
Dear Mr. pipes my name is Glenn Smith I’m building a home here in Saint Augustine Florida it’s a 1900 square-foot home the AC guy is coming out today to talk to the builder on his budget sheet he has a Linux written down to be put in I said no to the builder on Lenix and I suggested a Bosch unit which he will check into but we have to stay within budget what would be your second and third best unit for here in Florida for my situation I appreciate it very much
after hooking up the thermostat my blower would not go on for my boiler.
do you like ecobee stats?
37 . Just to throw out an number. You rock for paying it forward
Does this thermostat have the ventilator option to turn on your ventilator on or off?
We have a total connect tstat, visionpro 8000... got a great deal on it with a remote sensor a few years ago. Works great, no nonsense.
Some thermostats require a jumper. Does this one require that connection?
How do I know? The person who tossed out my $250 claimed it was bad and replaced it with a $20 one. They claimed it not heating was normal and that the heat pump had to be subsidized with a kerosene heater. They didn’t connect the emergency heat jumper. There is more to the story but don’t see the need to tell the entire drama.
Mike
The 2 thermostats I listed are wifi so again which is better
Looks like a sweet stat . . . I have the Sensi stat at our residence and cabin, works amazing.
Do you know how to remove an old thermostat off the Honeywell app?
Login to desktop website.
Thermostat Honeywell the screen is very cool, I need to install one
Would you recommend a Honeywell 9000 for hydronic radiant heat?
I have a 2 story house. one furnace. the colder it gets outside naturally the more the furnace runs. The upstairs gets hotter the more colder it gets outside. I have the honeywell rth9580 thermostat downstairs. Ive contemplated installing another rth9580 upstairs,but not sure how that would work, or just moving the downstairs thermostat upstairs. Not sure what to do. I like the honeywell rth9580 but not sure if it will handle 2 thermostats controlling the same furnace unless they talk to each other????
The most difficult part was to wi fi setting and customer call cust support....why???wires in tstat base connector so small plastic ....and tstat wire seems too big for small cavity. Is my only complaint Took me 5 min to inst and 5 to wire and 45 min to connect to wifi. U rite about Response Time....pls get people w no accent on cust support We are in America pls
Is this better than the Nest ?
NEST IS GARBAGE
Do you recommend these thermostat.
What’s the difference between the 9000 and the 9585 versions?
does this thermostat have a battery back up
Hey Mike I’ll go with 22
hey, can you connect to wifi and still keep the unit from displaying outdoor temp, i do not want outdoor temp.
I Tried installing it. But Instead of blowing cooling it was blowing heat 😢 how Can I fix that?
Unfortunately, mine requires the gateway for it to be online.. Love the room sensors
Yeah I have two of those Honeywell thermostats. Your Mikey they are good thermostats.
i like my Nest, but I have thought about changing it out to something else if I ever change out my furnace/AC.
Can you use those types of thermostats on Goodman package units ?
Did you have 4 different thermostats on each floor or one thermostat and 4 different sensors?
How do you change the units over to Celsius.
Go into settings
Does it have redlink?
Hi Mike! Can I have some advice I really want to go on my own doing this type of work I know how to do the stuff it's been a dream I've loved furnaces and ac since I was little the problem is I'm only 22 and I guess that scares people I really want to do this but idk I guess some people think I can't do it
@@PipeDoctor thanks I've just been putting my self put there telling people I do good work I'm reliable and if there patient with me I can be a extremely great tech
I need help with my new 9000 Honeywell thermostat. It was professionally installed. I want it to use heat, to warm my home, and cool to cool it down, automatically, WITHOUT swiping the MODE from cool to heat. Is that possible. ..?..
My Honeywell keeps powering down, therefore shutting down my HVAC system, does it need to be replaced?
are you dropping 24 volts to the stat? or is it the thermostat.
@@PipeDoctor I found the issue, clogged drain was cutting off power to the thermostat, thanks for the reply!
Love these tyoe of videos...new technology...its changing fast gotta keep up.... Very informative keep rickin ... Luv from ohio
Would you recommend that T-stat for 1 zone Steam or would it be overkill?🤔
Did deathbox vanish?
Hey Mike, I have a Nest 3rd generation installed in my furnace (Kerosene) I also have an old Honeywell and I installed together with the Nest, the reason I installed the honeywell was because just in case the Nest fails, the honeywell kicks in, I set the nest at 55 degrees and the honeywell at 48. Do you see any problem having two installed together??
Mikey Pipes I wish you live in my area..I need somethings to be fixed. Thank you for your videos..
Whats the deadband on this stat? 2° above and 2° below setpoint? I didnt see anything in the manual if it was changeable. Looking to change out my venstar.
good vid mike, the magic number is 33
43 os in my mind. Haha. Idk why but Yeats one hell of a number.
Love your vids. Perfect for afternoon lunches in cali
This is what I have in my house. Customers ask what the best Wifi thermostat is, it's the 9000 in my opinion.
Mikey, I've installed the Honeywell home 9000 today everything installed fine except in the IOS Resideo app. The Resideo app does not have the Honeywell Home 9000 thermostat in the selection list, therefor I cannot control it from apple phone which has the latest IOS version 16.2. Resideo app is the problem as they don't have it as part of the selection. I've been to the Resideo website but I can't find anything regarding this thermostat. I bought this thermostat so that I can control it from my iphone not my deskstop. Any ideas ? Have you heard anything about this issue with this thermostat not being on the Resideo iphone app? thanks for your help.
for excitement, touch all the thermostat wires together at once, except for common. Actually, I don't know how the control boards handle that now days, years ago with simple relays or controls they'd bang everything on at once, fan heat and cooling making a giant lossy dehumidifier 🤣
To bad your not in Orlando
Dear Pipe Doctor PI,
I have a Nest thermostat which I hate hate hate! I wonder if you know of one thermostat which can go on wi-fi by itself, that the numbers on the screen be large(because I need reading glasses every time I need to check on the temp), and that it has a large screen. Those are my 3 needs. The reason I need for it to detect the wi-fi is because I shut off my wi-fi at night, and in the morning I turn it back on. But the nest thermostat will not pick up on the wi-fi every morning, but rather needs me to re-program it as it if were the first time I am connecting it to the wi-fi. This is one of the reasons I no longer change my temperature from my couch using my computer because I have to get up and reprogram the unintelligent thing !!
@@PipeDoctor Thank you very much for your prompt response. Very kind of you!
I already checked it, and the best is the 9000. I will get it, based on your recommendation. Thank you again!!
Did you give away the thermostats yet?
I had a nest in my old home and I liked it compared to the junk tstat that was in there. My number is 37
All HVAC guys I’ve listened to hates Nest, but nobody says why, so I’m asking, WHY?
Hi Mike, you make awesome videos. One quick question- what digital thermostat can I use as a reverse-acting thermostat as I have a normally open zone valve? Thanks
Your zoning board should control your dampers, shouldn’t matter which thermostat you use
I don't need a nest door stop
My guess is 45
I have a Nest 3rd Generation paired to my Bosch IDS plus 18 SEER and works great. Do not understand the hate, lol.
@@PipeDoctor Maybe he did not know how to use, I agree there is a learning curve when it comes to Nest. Have to get rid of the "learning" feature and have it on a schedule. Anyway, Like the videos and your installs convinced me to go with a Bosch instead of Trane. Much love from Florida.
Mikey, I’ve picked my 2 numbers, but I’m not going to divulge them for fear that I might win one of those Nest thermostats‼️😂
Nest, in my view, is a novelty gadget. It has become extremely popular, primarily because of it’s unique cosmetic design, and NOT because of what’s “under the hood”, so to speak.
I installed an upstairs and a downstairs Prestige® IAQ with Equipment Interface Module Honeywell thermostat. They are complicated because they require the Module which must be located elsewhere in the house to work. Thermostat requires only 2 wires, R & C❗️The system also uses an outdoor temp/humidity sensor and in my case, 2 remote indoor wireless temperature sensors. Those 2 indoor remotes + the main Prestige perform the function of temperature averaging for greater indoor comfort!
Wishing the winner of those Nest’s, the very best! They make very attractive paperweights for one’s desk😂
Nests are Nasty
I have the Honeywell..how sweet it is!
My guess is 51… I lose
Still looking for Service Techs in South Carolina?
@@PipeDoctor I emailed you but haven’t heard back lol. I’m sure you get a lot of emails tho
How about 36
Great video Mike I pick 47
I actually need a new thermostat lol Mine is acting up. I just moved and it's terrible but don't have the funds to replace it right now until I start work haha
Good information number 4
My guess is 48
What happened to Chris?
@@PipeDoctor Too bad. He had a great opportunity.
Great video as always, my number pick is 29
I think you meant to say 2 unlucky subscribers....
Will this thermostat work on single stage cooling and heat pump with emergency electric? Goodman units. Thanks for your time
Does this thermostat talk outside your local wi-fi network? If so, non-starter. I am tired of all these corps. having access to my private information. If they want access to me, then they can approach me with an offer to pay me for tracking my every move…I even got rid of my smart phone, basic flip phone with no apps from here on out.
Walter, How do you spell, paranoid❓Our smartphones, smart tv’s, smart thermostats, Roku, Fire tv, Amazon Echo Dots & Shows, home automation, the list is endless. I’m proud to say I own all of them.
“The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself” Credit: FDR.
Cell phones have had a built in GPS for over a decade now. If it’s on u are tracked.
of course they do, step one is them phoning home to their company(or hosted cloud), so you can connect to the same cloud host and gain access to them.
If I think about it I think it’s
25 final answer
A Used Nest giveaway!
The best winner is the trash can!
Feed the trash can, it loves Nest gear.
Just my professional opinion.
I Love You!!!! 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
I hate nest love ecobee’s some people are the opposite🤷🏽♂️ hate WiFi stats in general
Number is 12
The Ecobee is also crap. I love my 9000's
My guess is #7 and since Nest suck , I'll probably win 😂😅🤣 Thx ...
5:95 but Mikey, instead of giving away, it would be more fun to us as a hockey puck and do some practice shots, or get a bat and play some baseball😅
I would donate them to nav#$@en
I would have picked 69 my favorite number but my second favorite is 13. So 13 is my guess. Good luck in your future endeavor’s.
my number pick is 24
48 I hope is one of them lol
47!! 😬
I have and definitely recommend the Honeywell 9000.
The NEST is trash and belongs in it.
106 🤣
I remember heat only $10 heat & cool $17🤣🤣🤣
Stay safe.
Wear your safety glasses!🥃🥃🍺🍺🍺
K.I.S.S. now even the most basic thermostats have a battery in them and rarely last long at all. go figure
Hmm gonna guess 17 on this one.
@@PipeDoctor ah dang it, all good. congrats to the 2 winners!
Do NOT let John Isreal see this video!
To delete old locations log into your total connect comfort account from from a web browser. Once your logged in go to locations and click the settings button on the right side of the one you want to delete.
At the bottom/left of the settings is a button to delete the location.
Number is 33
Hay buddy, I love you mannnn, anyway for your interest cuz I know all you do , like me, Is work talk, wife gets mad, but I have I’m pretty sure learning from you an R22 system from when they built this condo, wish I can get new but I stopped paying credit cards to survive like 8 yrs ago so financing is off the table, the Fan stays on and doesn’t shut off once it reaches set temperature… yes , it’s an old system from like 1990… a Payne, the compressor has been replaced though like 5 yrs ago… well I know that that part is stuck (Forgot the name), I just don’t know what it looks like, I’m a plumber but not an hvac guy, they smart and talented, at least they should be right, (Engineering)… well love you guys down there at pipe doctor. I wish I can install by Mikey pipes a Bosch, that would be epic, but In my dreams Pedro, in my dreams( Bound by honor blood in blood out movie)Lol. What can you tell me and what’s your thoughts on Payne systems, I see you never come across those over there.
@@PipeDoctor air handler
Easy to remove, just need to know the unique network MAC address of the old units. U can find it on the old device if u still have it. U can also reconnect the old units if u have them and they are still working. If not, go into the network router serving your home network, find the MAC addresses of all the units online and copy those MAC numbers down. Then by process of elimination remove the ones on the my connect portal that u did not write down. There is also free software out there that will scan your network (wired or wifi) and can give u the same info, IP address and MAC address. And my lucky number is 48.
@@PipeDoctor hi Mikey. If u know an IT person they can easily find the MAC addresses of the units currently online on the home wifi network and then use that list to eliminate the ones showing on the Honeywell web portal. I had to do the same. I had one for a friend go belly up and he threw it out. He had 4 online and 5 listed in the portal. I went to his home router and found the MAC and IP addresses of the 4 units online, copied those MAC addresses down and went to the Honeywell portal and deleted the one I didn’t copy down. Was a 30 minute process to get the info, verify against devices online, then look in the Honeywell list and delete.
or just remove them all and add back the currently installed ones, that's assuming they don't have tonsof them installed in multiple properties all over the place.
35
35
45.
Not a fan of Ecobee thermostats either…..kind miss the days when you don’t need your thermostat, FRIDGE, dishwasher, microwave, washing machine all “smart” and connected to internet and get “updates to firmware” which ends up bricking the unit 🤦🏼
Sometimes Ben the smartest of things can just be dumb😉
looks at mercury bulb thermostats still on the wall. yep, set it and forget it, well, until spring/fall.