It is also mentioned in the episode where SG-1 negotiate the treaty that Yu's ambitions no longer lay in the milky way galaxy, I think Yu probably just does the bare minimum to keep his military up so that he can ignore the rest of the galaxy, he's more intrested in getting people to stop bothering him than conquring the other system lords.
Also. With over a dozen Ha'tak vessels and several mines and bases... There's significant precedent for him having the ability to network energy for extragalactic stargate networks. I mean, sure, the SGC can't connect intergalactically... But, screw that, THIS GUY HAS LIKE, A DOZEN SPACESHIPS! All with orbital bombardment capacity! He can figure *something* out! Just thinking about that.
I think the coolest thing about Yu is a lot of what he did with his court and his management is very similar to the ruling style of actual chinese emperors. I always wished they did something in the show with the chinese government excavating the tomb of the first emperor and finding some goa'uld tech in there.
Yu is one of if not the only system lord that I felt bad for when he died. Maybe it's because I've watched older family members deteriorate due to alzhimers and he was a "the devil you knew" for most of his tenure in the show. And could be relied upon And plus the man even when losing his mind was made of bad arse sticking it to anbus right till replocator cater killed him.
Yu knew how to use the carrot and the stick correctly. A lot of other system lords mostly only punished you if you failed but rarely rewarded you for doing well. This is why i think that even if you convinced the poeple of Yu's realm he's just a symboid and not a god, they would still follow him and those that wouldnt where unloyal in the first place and to weak to really do anything. I'll add on like i said as a responce in another comment i dont think Yu wanted to be atleast not anymore if he did. His empire overall was a house on a strong foundation. The greater goauld realm on the other hand was like a tower build on a swamp.
Great video! Yu wasn't just my favorite System Lord, but he was also one of my favorite Stargate sg1 characters as well. He was also very disciplined. It was sad to see his ending 😢
These are among the reasons why I’d expect Yu’s domain to have survived the fall of the Empire. It was well run compared to the other domains. And it wasn’t ruled based on terrorism. Which would in a new series provide a counter model on how to run things instead of the Lucian Alliance which is more of the same or the Jaffa that never got their act together.
A political posting is when a person is assigned to a post that has political relevance but they themselves do not have any decision making authority on grand policy, so for example, being assigned as an attache or even an assistant at a Embassy, you might have some supervisory role at the Embassy, like hiring and firing people to work there, but not any power to change overall policy of the 'Nation' in which the Embassy is for. A Political Position, is one in which you DO have political authority, IE can set or modify policy, going back to my previous analogy, it would be if you were the assigned Ambassador of the previously mentioned Embassy, you are empowered to negotiate treaties and agreements that DO affect the larger policy of the nation you serve.
About the Katano thing I think the rival Yu wanted to undermine was Katano. Katano tried to steal one of his motherships. Making speeches and recruiting some Jaffa is acceptable but a mothership. When Anubis was absorbing minor Goauld. One of them was Ramius who didnt have a mothership. I think all he had was a cargo ship. Katano betrayed Yu and Yu had him bombed. Telling Teal'c about Katano was to guarantee Katano wouldnt survive
10:05 Honestly, this really isn't that complicated, Yu and Apophis probably just border Cronus on opposing sides, so that while Cronus is more powerful than both Yu and Apophis, he can't move enough forces to crush one without leaving himself open to attack by the other.
I'm personally thinking... well... Why couldn't Lord Yu and the Tok'ra do something together? I mean, he's one of the most trustworthy, for one, and he'd be more than willing to commit like, a dozen ships in overwhelming engaugements to pummel some other system lords into the dust with little losses on his own side... Plus, I think he would've been more than happy to give Tok'Ra resources, then watch them and the other Goa'uld go at it while he laughs in the background like 'All is proceeding according to plan'.
@AenVegra it’s an interesting idea. The one side is that well, at the end of the day he is a Goa’uld. He wants power which is something the Tok’Ra would not stand for.
@@sg-24 Point taken... And that'd be what keeps the two seperate. And why Tok'Ra would swap over. Because, well. Him wanting to take down the other Goa'uld and not having an issue with treating his good subjects *well*. Might me me anthropmoprhizing him too much to human values, but I think he actually did want to do good-even if it was in terms of 'I can't have a prosperous empire borne on the backs of slaves' simply from a logistical-governmental standpoint, that you have to be good to-and have good living conditions for-and so forth, for your citizens. And you have to have citizens, rather than subjects, or things just don't fuckin work. Also, he'd be the kind that the 4-d chess of baiting people into switching sides, spilling secrets, and protecting his own interests with ironclad loyalty by *investing* some of his time and resources in maintaining the loyalty-the benefits of this would not be lost on him. That it could be a very tactical thing, 'I will *want* to make my people happy, because happy people are loyal and loyal people will be able to pitch in if things get tough and I need to stand on my foundation of that loyalty'. If for nothing more than the fact that it gives him basically bulletproof command structures compared to the other Goa'uld, and renders him *immune* to much of the underhanded shenanigans the others pull on each other. To be perfectly frank, Lord Yu was a ruler, the others were just kids given the keys to the kingdom. Sure, he's not actually doing it for the people or anything, but at least the guy knows how to build an empire that *works*. One built off of respect-not just fear. Plus, as I think has been mentioned before-he is *SMART*. In terms of technology, I believe it's said that his Ha'taks actually had a leg up on the average one, somehow. Showing him investing in TECHNOLOGY and not just 'build moar ship enemee go boom'.
I always respected Lord Yu and liked him because he was strict but also fair. Lord Baal was a double-edged sword, he worked against and with the earth depending on what suited him best at the moment. i would say Lord Yu was a ruler who was supposed to be righteously evil and Lord Baal more of a chaotic evil. I would describe Lord Apophis as more of a purely selfish evil. It's a real pity that they messed up Stargate with the whole Ori arc, at least in my opinion, because it was too weird and there was no Stargate feeling left. But as I said, that's just my opinion, which not everyone has to share.
Lord Yu seemed to have a lot of respect and affection from his Jaffa; now Baal seemed to know he wasn't a 'real' god, but he seemed to enjoy having that power and influence.
I agree with both arguments, and I like the sort of "friendly" Goa'uld idea. Its something I always though Stargate missed out on, and have even stated as something I wanted to see if the series was picked up again. The irony is, this not only builds loyalty in a populous, but removes most of the malice of your followers towards their leader. However, I think that Yuu SHOULD have been in the running for next Supreme System Lord, but I do not think he would have ever made it for the reasons stated. I think not only does his method of slow expansion make securing dominion over the other System Lords harder, but I also think that the fact that he was so successful that he lived that long and was now suffering from old age, would have eventually worked against him and caused him to fail. On a side note, I think that Yuu could have been weaker than Chronos, more powerful than Apophis, yet Apophis and Chronos still been rivals. As I've stated before, it seems that the Goa'uld really never fought each other but so hard during the reign of Ra. It was only after Ra died did the attempt to wipe our rivals happen. I wonder if Ra was more of a stabilizing factor that what we saw. Even if Ra wasn't keeping the peace, Apophis could have just been a better tactician. Chronos did seem far more arrogant.
There's some early episodes that show that Apophis was much weaker than Chronos, but Chronos got himself killed by SG-1, and Apophis was much slicker and bailed out in time. He acquired much of Chronos empire and that is how he became so powerful.
Yay a yu video! Is this from my comment suggestion? 😊 If they make a new movie they need to do a time travel back to a younger yu and reveal more backstory and show he's even greater and friendlier towards earth than expected
@Lee H I’m not sure did you suggest this. I kind of lost track of were this one came from. I do find the idea of a younger Yu being nicer a lot of fun.
@@sg-24 yea i commented on the system lord video about a week ago talking about yu being the only system lord i would trust cause he's nice compared to the rest and keeps his word
@Lee H oh sorry then, I try to say who gave me the idea in my video. To reward people who give positive comments. Sorry, last week was a little busy for me.
@@sg-24 Not a worry. I thank you for the Video. I wish in SG there was more of a back channel connection and even a broader understanding between Yu and the Tauri. Also, I didn't like how Yu was killed off. Replicator Sam and the T-1000 motif just seemed like a cheap write-off. I think the writers made the Replicators too OP and it doesn't jive with the Knowledge, Capacity, Capabilities of what has been stated so much with the Asgard's technology. Imagine if the writers had the Tauri bring or include Asgardians & Tokra into the fold with Atlantis, and the big what-if the Asgardians could see a connection between Reps In alm 3 Galaxies. That would make an incredibly interesting Movie even, - a Tri-Galaxy fight if written all before the time if Dakara in S08. Hindsight is always 20/20, and I try to look at the entire picture of the video. The opportunity could be a good Part 2 or sequel for your Yu video and if you do so, I will surely watch and appreciate it too. The SG Universe is underrated, the Lore is substantially and woefully under discussed in Sci-fi-dom, and there is so much potential in discussing it. That's why I think your channel will grow It is just so unfortunate that MGM, and other parties involved didn't understand the incredible potential of the story lines that can and in my opinion should be told. -Carn
I think he mainly didnt want to even if he had the power. look at how he distrubuted power in his own empire. That structure would not exist for the greater realm if he became supreme system lord.
Yu was the oldest most strategic planning system Lord also he has amazing talent in building his domain and subordinates.🧠 So he is cold but somewhat reasonable and not too cruel in galactic dictatorship godcomplex scaling i think at least to his Jaffa.😅 Also he took on the old and then half acended Anubis and stood his ground till the end even against all odds he hold up with his capabel Jaffa subordinates. Till replicators got him cold i was kinda disappointed he deserved a final grand stand battle in my head canon.😅
Security or control? Because they go hand in hand...as one goes up the other has to come down. So in a case of tyrannical leaders(as in todays world) they offer security yet it is really all about control. So be careful what you wish for :)
@@ericandes4288 ...A fair ruler that is knowingly and willingly lying to you, pretending to be something he is not so that he can tell you as long as you stay in these lines you won't be punished? I think we just figured out what is wrong in todays world.
do you think the Reol chemical Daniel used on Yu sped up his condition ? cause we only found out about Yu losing his mind after. the reason I think this is we see Yu in Continuum and he seems fine I don't recall him having his Jaffa by his side covering for him in the movie.
I think it's more of the inconsistent nature of the writing, a matter of inconsistency. This is no stranger in every major SciFi series. U think the age factor and inability to take a new host is more the basis, and use of the sarcophagus more likely had a bigger effect.
@@Dahak86 i think it's more related to the prolonged use of the sarcophagus tech in late life, his life has been extended longer than was possible to the symbiote alone than without it, and the body eventually dies even though that device helps regenerate health, the sarcophagus tech was based on that Alteran cube that made people go crazy as it was a far more powerful effect, but it had it's fare share of side effects, a few of these were judgment and arrogance and the belief that they were all powerful. it reminds me of someone who abused drugs when they were young, they were fine when they were younger, but later in life their body breaks down faster, but the effects of the sarcophagus were waning thin on his health to the point where he was going through this decline at a more rapid rate, in the show they explained that he had to use the sarcophagus more often in his older age, and though it would work, it was only temporary in results because he was so old that his body and mind couldn't mend fully. he was also mentioned as the oldest of the Goa'uld system lords, Anubis and him would have been roughly the same age had Anubis not ascended, Anubis found the cheat code to ever lasting life of the physical body.
i feel like if he not die he be only one lord who dont be attack by tok ra free jaffa or humans, and meyby after his natural death whe he be last of lords, his dominum turn into Pseudo Japan Emprie like another jaffa and humans nation
The Goauld prolong their life with the sarcophagus which "drains the good from their souls with extended usage" Yu was such a long lived Goauld that the sarcophagus was losing it's effect. Therefore, Yu seeming to be less nuts than the rest of the younger generation might be an indication he was shaking off the effects of the sarcophagus even if unintentionally. Always thought that would have been an interesting way for the Goauld to transition into joining as a new Tok'ra race that are not genocidal junkies riding the immortality high.
A political position is one that has political authority. A political posting is usually a cushy job that has no real authority that you got as a favor from someone in political power.
I think Yu was too smart to try to become the supreme system lord. He knew how important stability is and that the more power you have, the more unstable you become. Just look at what happened to everyone who tried to become the most powerful. Instead, he seems to have focused more on maintaining what he already had.
not to mention every Goa'uld who tried to become the supreme system lord were always at war with all the others as it was a game of thrones. it really makes you wonder if Yu's host was an influence on his better judgment and tactics within his empire.
There could be a way how Yu may be stronger than one and weaker to the other. He may have some strategic advantage over one or a weapon that is more effective against one, or it may be irrational like fear of spiders (Apophis would be arachnophob and Yu the spider in this case). But yes, its definitely a plothole if it is so said in the source and not explained.
i think the Goa'uld hierarchy was essentially based on the game of thrones, they were all vying for power and to become the supreme commander of the Goa'uld in order to run the entire empire. i think most Goa'uld are breed this way given their DNA, but this also has to do with their genetic memory and their attitude, we always thought that all Goa'uld were evil, and many are by instinct, but i think depending on who's genetic line they belonged to, they were more dominant than the rest. but at some point it was explained within the lore that the sarcophagus tech lead to them being more power hungry than ever before, the lore was explaining this cube that was created by the Ancients but found by Anubis during a time when he was not ascended, somehow they learned how this tech worked to a degree and they started creating their own sarcophaguses to use, i would imagine this was during a time when the Goa'uld were first the hosts of the Unas and didn't use the human bodies up until they created this tech to when they could make it possible.
I'm sorry to stress you out like this. The overall balance of the sound is good, if you'd just keep the voice over levels between 0 dB and -12 dB. Otherwise great video. Yu's senility may have been a big deal back then, but it doesn't seem so farfetched nowadays...
@Ptrk Hrnk its okay, the video is just the way it is now. The issues is that I was having trouble with a new mic I got. I finally fixed the issue with it (today) but unfortunately it was after I recorded this audio.
It seems like Yu may have been what the gou'ald used to be in the beginning until they eventually after the many thousand of years of the thrist of power and sacoguaus usage they eventually became the cruel oppressors we know today don't get me wrong the gou'ald have never been nice or fair or anything like that but they weren't totally evil. Also ba'al is the best system lord don't @ me lol
If I were in charge of SG1 I would have done a lot more politics with the system lords in general. Just being a political player at all gives earth both value and intel, even if the gould don't actually uphold much. Yu would be Unique as someone who actually keeps his word to a degree. In fact I probably would have gone so far as to try and provide any kind of advanced medical assistance I had to keep him healthy. He is however more Useful to earth while not being the supreme system lord, since then he needs us more. The best option being to try and keep an idiot in charge and simply keep the system lords as a whole weak and disjointed, while making it politically inviable to attack earth. I will admit this is hard to do, but it's not the kind of hard that requires a group of plucky adventurers with absurd plot armour to bail us out once a month. It's more like the kind of hard we had to deal with during the cold war, and some nations actually succeeded at balancing.
It is also mentioned in the episode where SG-1 negotiate the treaty that Yu's ambitions no longer lay in the milky way galaxy, I think Yu probably just does the bare minimum to keep his military up so that he can ignore the rest of the galaxy, he's more intrested in getting people to stop bothering him than conquring the other system lords.
You go Yu!
He has Old Man, Get off my lawn energy, and he often has to go show them kids what's what.
@@Iluvlollipopshaha well he is the oldest System Lord. I too would want to be left the alone and get those darn youngsters off my space lawn.
Also. With over a dozen Ha'tak vessels and several mines and bases... There's significant precedent for him having the ability to network energy for extragalactic stargate networks.
I mean, sure, the SGC can't connect intergalactically... But, screw that, THIS GUY HAS LIKE, A DOZEN SPACESHIPS! All with orbital bombardment capacity! He can figure *something* out! Just thinking about that.
I think the coolest thing about Yu is a lot of what he did with his court and his management is very similar to the ruling style of actual chinese emperors. I always wished they did something in the show with the chinese government excavating the tomb of the first emperor and finding some goa'uld tech in there.
that would have been way cool. at this point, the best you could get out of that is fanfictions.
Yu is one of if not the only system lord that I felt bad for when he died. Maybe it's because I've watched older family members deteriorate due to alzhimers and he was a "the devil you knew" for most of his tenure in the show. And could be relied upon
And plus the man even when losing his mind was made of bad arse sticking it to anbus right till replocator cater killed him.
Yu knew how to use the carrot and the stick correctly. A lot of other system lords mostly only punished you if you failed but rarely rewarded you for doing well. This is why i think that even if you convinced the poeple of Yu's realm he's just a symboid and not a god, they would still follow him and those that wouldnt where unloyal in the first place and to weak to really do anything.
I'll add on like i said as a responce in another comment i dont think Yu wanted to be atleast not anymore if he did. His empire overall was a house on a strong foundation. The greater goauld realm on the other hand was like a tower build on a swamp.
Great video!
Yu wasn't just my favorite System Lord, but he was also one of my favorite Stargate sg1 characters as well. He was also very disciplined. It was sad to see his ending 😢
Thank you for the comment. I do agree it was kind of sad with his ending, especially given how abrupt it was.0
These are among the reasons why I’d expect Yu’s domain to have survived the fall of the Empire. It was well run compared to the other domains. And it wasn’t ruled based on terrorism. Which would in a new series provide a counter model on how to run things instead of the Lucian Alliance which is more of the same or the Jaffa that never got their act together.
A political posting is when a person is assigned to a post that has political relevance but they themselves do not have any decision making authority on grand policy, so for example, being assigned as an attache or even an assistant at a Embassy, you might have some supervisory role at the Embassy, like hiring and firing people to work there, but not any power to change overall policy of the 'Nation' in which the Embassy is for. A Political Position, is one in which you DO have political authority, IE can set or modify policy, going back to my previous analogy, it would be if you were the assigned Ambassador of the previously mentioned Embassy, you are empowered to negotiate treaties and agreements that DO affect the larger policy of the nation you serve.
About the Katano thing I think the rival Yu wanted to undermine was Katano.
Katano tried to steal one of his motherships. Making speeches and recruiting some Jaffa is acceptable but a mothership.
When Anubis was absorbing minor Goauld. One of them was Ramius who didnt have a mothership. I think all he had was a cargo ship.
Katano betrayed Yu and Yu had him bombed. Telling Teal'c about Katano was to guarantee Katano wouldnt survive
10:05 Honestly, this really isn't that complicated, Yu and Apophis probably just border Cronus on opposing sides, so that while Cronus is more powerful than both Yu and Apophis, he can't move enough forces to crush one without leaving himself open to attack by the other.
If tokra are willing to switch sides then you must be a wise leader.
I'm personally thinking... well...
Why couldn't Lord Yu and the Tok'ra do something together?
I mean, he's one of the most trustworthy, for one, and he'd be more than willing to commit like, a dozen ships in overwhelming engaugements to pummel some other system lords into the dust with little losses on his own side...
Plus, I think he would've been more than happy to give Tok'Ra resources, then watch them and the other Goa'uld go at it while he laughs in the background like 'All is proceeding according to plan'.
@AenVegra it’s an interesting idea. The one side is that well, at the end of the day he is a Goa’uld. He wants power which is something the Tok’Ra would not stand for.
@@sg-24 Point taken... And that'd be what keeps the two seperate. And why Tok'Ra would swap over.
Because, well. Him wanting to take down the other Goa'uld and not having an issue with treating his good subjects *well*.
Might me me anthropmoprhizing him too much to human values, but I think he actually did want to do good-even if it was in terms of 'I can't have a prosperous empire borne on the backs of slaves' simply from a logistical-governmental standpoint, that you have to be good to-and have good living conditions for-and so forth, for your citizens. And you have to have citizens, rather than subjects, or things just don't fuckin work.
Also, he'd be the kind that the 4-d chess of baiting people into switching sides, spilling secrets, and protecting his own interests with ironclad loyalty by *investing* some of his time and resources in maintaining the loyalty-the benefits of this would not be lost on him. That it could be a very tactical thing, 'I will *want* to make my people happy, because happy people are loyal and loyal people will be able to pitch in if things get tough and I need to stand on my foundation of that loyalty'. If for nothing more than the fact that it gives him basically bulletproof command structures compared to the other Goa'uld, and renders him *immune* to much of the underhanded shenanigans the others pull on each other.
To be perfectly frank, Lord Yu was a ruler, the others were just kids given the keys to the kingdom. Sure, he's not actually doing it for the people or anything, but at least the guy knows how to build an empire that *works*. One built off of respect-not just fear.
Plus, as I think has been mentioned before-he is *SMART*. In terms of technology, I believe it's said that his Ha'taks actually had a leg up on the average one, somehow. Showing him investing in TECHNOLOGY and not just 'build moar ship enemee go boom'.
That is a really well argument. Yu did work with SGC on occasion. So I could see some kind of alliance of convince between him and the Tok’Ra.
Thank Yu
I always respected Lord Yu and liked him because he was strict but also fair. Lord Baal was a double-edged sword, he worked against and with the earth depending on what suited him best at the moment. i would say Lord Yu was a ruler who was supposed to be righteously evil and Lord Baal more of a chaotic evil. I would describe Lord Apophis as more of a purely selfish evil. It's a real pity that they messed up Stargate with the whole Ori arc, at least in my opinion, because it was too weird and there was no Stargate feeling left. But as I said, that's just my opinion, which not everyone has to share.
Lord Yu seemed to have a lot of respect and affection from his Jaffa; now Baal seemed to know he wasn't a 'real' god, but he seemed to enjoy having that power and influence.
i liked the Ori, but i think their backstory needed much more detail than was told within the show.
I agree with both arguments, and I like the sort of "friendly" Goa'uld idea. Its something I always though Stargate missed out on, and have even stated as something I wanted to see if the series was picked up again. The irony is, this not only builds loyalty in a populous, but removes most of the malice of your followers towards their leader. However, I think that Yuu SHOULD have been in the running for next Supreme System Lord, but I do not think he would have ever made it for the reasons stated. I think not only does his method of slow expansion make securing dominion over the other System Lords harder, but I also think that the fact that he was so successful that he lived that long and was now suffering from old age, would have eventually worked against him and caused him to fail.
On a side note, I think that Yuu could have been weaker than Chronos, more powerful than Apophis, yet Apophis and Chronos still been rivals. As I've stated before, it seems that the Goa'uld really never fought each other but so hard during the reign of Ra. It was only after Ra died did the attempt to wipe our rivals happen. I wonder if Ra was more of a stabilizing factor that what we saw. Even if Ra wasn't keeping the peace, Apophis could have just been a better tactician. Chronos did seem far more arrogant.
There's some early episodes that show that Apophis was much weaker than Chronos, but Chronos got himself killed by SG-1, and Apophis was much slicker and bailed out in time. He acquired much of Chronos empire and that is how he became so powerful.
Yu made a great video.
Wow. Thanks for saying so many nice things about me! (Hooray Yu/You jokes)
Keep up the great work
My all time favorite
Yay a yu video!
Is this from my comment suggestion? 😊
If they make a new movie they need to do a time travel back to a younger yu and reveal more backstory and show he's even greater and friendlier towards earth than expected
@Lee H I’m not sure did you suggest this. I kind of lost track of were this one came from.
I do find the idea of a younger Yu being nicer a lot of fun.
@@sg-24 yea i commented on the system lord video about a week ago talking about yu being the only system lord i would trust cause he's nice compared to the rest and keeps his word
@Lee H oh sorry then, I try to say who gave me the idea in my video. To reward people who give positive comments. Sorry, last week was a little busy for me.
I always had a theory that yu was secretly a tok'ra
It may be interesting to note that Yu was among the advisers in Baals Court during the movie
I missed the part about how he betrayed Earth, sort of. Left out, or? GG on video either way! Thank You!
@Carnifexor I did leave the details a bit vague, maybe in hindsight I should have gone a little more into detail about it.
@@sg-24 Not a worry. I thank you for the Video. I wish in SG there was more of a back channel connection and even a broader understanding between Yu and the Tauri. Also, I didn't like how Yu was killed off. Replicator Sam and the T-1000 motif just seemed like a cheap write-off. I think the writers made the Replicators too OP and it doesn't jive with the Knowledge, Capacity, Capabilities of what has been stated so much with the Asgard's technology.
Imagine if the writers had the Tauri bring or include Asgardians & Tokra into the fold with Atlantis, and the big what-if the Asgardians could see a connection between Reps In alm 3 Galaxies. That would make an incredibly interesting Movie even, - a Tri-Galaxy fight if written all before the time if Dakara in S08.
Hindsight is always 20/20, and I try to look at the entire picture of the video. The opportunity could be a good Part 2 or sequel for your Yu video and if you do so, I will surely watch and appreciate it too.
The SG Universe is underrated, the Lore is substantially and woefully under discussed in Sci-fi-dom, and there is so much potential in discussing it. That's why I think your channel will grow
It is just so unfortunate that MGM, and other parties involved didn't understand the incredible potential of the story lines that can and in my opinion should be told.
-Carn
Lord Yu was basically becoming Joe Biden in his old age, although not quite as far gone lol.
I think Yu would be a good supreme system lord, I don't think he had the power to vie for the position though.
I think he mainly didnt want to even if he had the power. look at how he distrubuted power in his own empire. That structure would not exist for the greater realm if he became supreme system lord.
I originally said Yu because I wasn't sure when his dementia set in, but if the RPG says 1997 ill accept that as an answer *bangs gavel*
Yu was the oldest most strategic planning system Lord also he has amazing talent in building his domain and subordinates.🧠 So he is cold but somewhat reasonable and not too cruel in galactic dictatorship godcomplex scaling i think at least to his Jaffa.😅 Also he took on the old and then half acended Anubis and stood his ground till the end even against all odds he hold up with his capabel Jaffa subordinates. Till replicators got him cold i was kinda disappointed he deserved a final grand stand battle in my head canon.😅
I agree, kind of sad that after all he went through he ended up just being stab.
I agree and he was definitely probably the best domain to live in with the best security
Security or control?
Because they go hand in hand...as one goes up the other has to come down.
So in a case of tyrannical leaders(as in todays world) they offer security yet it is really all about control.
So be careful what you wish for :)
@@heathb4319 Well Yu was known to be a fair ruler so I think in this case he would be easily better than any of the other options
@@ericandes4288 ...A fair ruler that is knowingly and willingly lying to you, pretending to be something he is not so that he can tell you as long as you stay in these lines you won't be punished?
I think we just figured out what is wrong in todays world.
A space Chinese King or Kai-oh empire would have been pretty lit. I'm thinking along the lines of the Ashida Empire in Dark Matter.
@@Wzrd8 ...I forgot about that show.
I may go watch it again.
I just remember thinking they were trying way to hard to get a Firefly feel out of it.
Lord Yu is the Bismarck of the System Lords 😂
Lord Yu has a plan, Lord Yu always has a plan. 😎
You know what... I can see it. 😎
fear, leads to respect in Goa'Uld theocracy
I liked Yu a lot. Strong and wise.
No no no
Yes, yes, and also yes.
My 2 favorite system lords yu & kronos.
Well I’m fattened you think I am one of the system lords, I’m not, but I appreciate the thought.
I read the question as what Ghoul at their prim would have been a good supreme system lord.
@Logan Nichols that’s fair. Though it would need to be after Ra was gone. And Yu could have filled that spot.
do you think the Reol chemical Daniel used on Yu sped up his condition ? cause we only found out about Yu losing his mind after.
the reason I think this is we see Yu in Continuum and he seems fine I don't recall him having his Jaffa by his side covering for him in the movie.
@Dahak86 you know I’m not sure. And that’s something I never noticed in Continuum.
I think it's more of the inconsistent nature of the writing, a matter of inconsistency. This is no stranger in every major SciFi series. U think the age factor and inability to take a new host is more the basis, and use of the sarcophagus more likely had a bigger effect.
honestly i don't think it's related to his condition, the Reol chemical just made people believe you were a trusted ally that you know.
@user-tp5yb4hr4w it does that by messing with the mind. Who knows what it would do to someone thousands of years old? That's already losing it.
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i think it's more related to the prolonged use of the sarcophagus tech in late life, his life has been extended longer than was possible to the symbiote alone than without it, and the body eventually dies even though that device helps regenerate health, the sarcophagus tech was based on that Alteran cube that made people go crazy as it was a far more powerful effect, but it had it's fare share of side effects, a few of these were judgment and arrogance and the belief that they were all powerful.
it reminds me of someone who abused drugs when they were young, they were fine when they were younger, but later in life their body breaks down faster, but the effects of the sarcophagus were waning thin on his health to the point where he was going through this decline at a more rapid rate, in the show they explained that he had to use the sarcophagus more often in his older age, and though it would work, it was only temporary in results because he was so old that his body and mind couldn't mend fully.
he was also mentioned as the oldest of the Goa'uld system lords, Anubis and him would have been roughly the same age had Anubis not ascended, Anubis found the cheat code to ever lasting life of the physical body.
i feel like if he not die he be only one lord who dont be attack by tok ra free jaffa or humans, and meyby after his natural death whe he be last of lords, his dominum turn into Pseudo Japan Emprie like another jaffa and humans nation
The Goauld prolong their life with the sarcophagus which "drains the good from their souls with extended usage"
Yu was such a long lived Goauld that the sarcophagus was losing it's effect.
Therefore, Yu seeming to be less nuts than the rest of the younger generation might be an indication he was shaking off the effects of the sarcophagus even if unintentionally. Always thought that would have been an interesting way for the Goauld to transition into joining as a new Tok'ra race that are not genocidal junkies riding the immortality high.
A political position is one that has political authority. A political posting is usually a cushy job that has no real authority that you got as a favor from someone in political power.
I think Yu was too smart to try to become the supreme system lord. He knew how important stability is and that the more power you have, the more unstable you become. Just look at what happened to everyone who tried to become the most powerful. Instead, he seems to have focused more on maintaining what he already had.
@Maria Vibo I’ve actually though the same thing. Though I always though he knew he would be so busy trying to stay on top.
not to mention every Goa'uld who tried to become the supreme system lord were always at war with all the others as it was a game of thrones.
it really makes you wonder if Yu's host was an influence on his better judgment and tactics within his empire.
There could be a way how Yu may be stronger than one and weaker to the other. He may have some strategic advantage over one or a weapon that is more effective against one, or it may be irrational like fear of spiders (Apophis would be arachnophob and Yu the spider in this case). But yes, its definitely a plothole if it is so said in the source and not explained.
I don’t know why, but the idea of the system lords having irrational fears like spiders is really funny.
I still say Apophis was weaker than we believe and that bavking from Ra gave Apophis the support he needed to be avrival to Chronos
Allways liked Yu, also showed the Goauld as more varied, which makes sense since the Tokrah are also a thing. Can't all the the same shade of evil.
i think the Goa'uld hierarchy was essentially based on the game of thrones, they were all vying for power and to become the supreme commander of the Goa'uld in order to run the entire empire.
i think most Goa'uld are breed this way given their DNA, but this also has to do with their genetic memory and their attitude, we always thought that all Goa'uld were evil, and many are by instinct, but i think depending on who's genetic line they belonged to, they were more dominant than the rest.
but at some point it was explained within the lore that the sarcophagus tech lead to them being more power hungry than ever before, the lore was explaining this cube that was created by the Ancients but found by Anubis during a time when he was not ascended, somehow they learned how this tech worked to a degree and they started creating their own sarcophaguses to use, i would imagine this was during a time when the Goa'uld were first the hosts of the Unas and didn't use the human bodies up until they created this tech to when they could make it possible.
I'm sorry to stress you out like this. The overall balance of the sound is good, if you'd just keep the voice over levels between 0 dB and -12 dB.
Otherwise great video. Yu's senility may have been a big deal back then, but it doesn't seem so farfetched nowadays...
@Ptrk Hrnk its okay, the video is just the way it is now. The issues is that I was having trouble with a new mic I got. I finally fixed the issue with it (today) but unfortunately it was after I recorded this audio.
It seems like Yu may have been what the gou'ald used to be in the beginning until they eventually after the many thousand of years of the thrist of power and sacoguaus usage they eventually became the cruel oppressors we know today don't get me wrong the gou'ald have never been nice or fair or anything like that but they weren't totally evil. Also ba'al is the best system lord don't @ me lol
Except Yu was precisely fair, which is what makes him a good leader, in contrast with other goa'uld.
150,000 enemy jaffa eaten.
Strategic Yu Victory.
Yu's time was over.
If I were in charge of SG1 I would have done a lot more politics with the system lords in general. Just being a political player at all gives earth both value and intel, even if the gould don't actually uphold much.
Yu would be Unique as someone who actually keeps his word to a degree. In fact I probably would have gone so far as to try and provide any kind of advanced medical assistance I had to keep him healthy. He is however more Useful to earth while not being the supreme system lord, since then he needs us more. The best option being to try and keep an idiot in charge and simply keep the system lords as a whole weak and disjointed, while making it politically inviable to attack earth.
I will admit this is hard to do, but it's not the kind of hard that requires a group of plucky adventurers with absurd plot armour to bail us out once a month. It's more like the kind of hard we had to deal with during the cold war, and some nations actually succeeded at balancing.
Thank yu.... sorry.
@VersaLife you made a bad joke and Yu should feel bad. 😉
oh Yu guys.......(smerk)
He would have been good, but past his time ….