Masha Gessen - "The Trump-Putin Connect: What We Imagine and Why"

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  • @FC-rg1vk
    @FC-rg1vk 2 роки тому +9

    She’s so right. They share the same disdain

  • @goraiebfred
    @goraiebfred 2 роки тому +4

    It’s not the bully that frightens me but the cowards who refuse to confront him/her.

  • @valeriefaabergpitel7356
    @valeriefaabergpitel7356 2 роки тому +39

    Watching this from 2022, all I have to say is we survived, barely. 😳

    • @browsepals4123
      @browsepals4123 2 роки тому

      Biden's term is one year through, yet, he's not done. Woohoo! Rising inflation, crime, fentanyl poisoning, rampant illegal aliens, energy crisis and now possibly WW3. What a country!

  • @GodsendNYC
    @GodsendNYC 2 роки тому +18

    Wow this is a really good analysis!

  • @OrganNLou
    @OrganNLou 2 роки тому +20

    One of the great writers and speakers of our time!!!

  • @SarahKchannel
    @SarahKchannel 2 роки тому +19

    Really scary to watch in the context of 2022 !

  • @barracuda7018
    @barracuda7018 2 роки тому +27

    Brilliant analyst...Absolutely amazing.

  • @denhamcolm
    @denhamcolm 2 роки тому +11

    Incredible talk

  • @rachelanne5060
    @rachelanne5060 5 років тому +8

    This human being is incredible and so insightful.

  • @patfrench8046
    @patfrench8046 2 роки тому +4

    She is very smart.

  • @wadegruber2119
    @wadegruber2119 2 роки тому +27

    I like how she pointed out that the way they lie is similar, not actually trying to convince people. I just saw a video of a woman press member ask Putin about his jailing and killing political opponents. Putin answered by bringing up the January 6th rioters who are currently being prosecuted and seeing jail time, to say that is the US doing the same, when that is so obviously not the kind of jailing of political opponents (politicians) the questioner was talking about. It blew my mind that he would answer in such a stupid way.

    • @hessness
      @hessness 2 роки тому +3

      It doesn't need to be clever to make 60% of the country go... "haha oh yeah that's true, go putin/trump. People are idiots lol

    • @cathyhale7817
      @cathyhale7817 2 роки тому

      Ppp

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +2

      He killed his own Russian soldiers (still is)

    • @browsepals4123
      @browsepals4123 2 роки тому

      Really? Jailing Jan 6th protesters and not jailing 2020 BLM/Antifa protesters/arsonists/looters/rioters is not a political action? The dichotomy is exactly why the Communists argue the point when Americans highlight their atrocities.

    • @billsoetebier1254
      @billsoetebier1254 2 роки тому

      Z

  • @kangaroo1888
    @kangaroo1888 4 роки тому +14

    Thank you for the lecture

  • @SueFerreira75
    @SueFerreira75 2 роки тому +27

    5 years later, just after Putin has invaded Ukraine, it would be interesting to see if Masha Gessen's thoughts on Trump and Putin have changed and if so in which way.

    • @junglecat_rant
      @junglecat_rant 2 роки тому

      Point is, he hasn't changed at all. He perfected all his traits and became the dictator he is.

    • @carolyntalbot947
      @carolyntalbot947 2 роки тому +1

      She has been a contributing guest on MSNBC recently, and I would conclude that she feels vindicated and very frustrated by the Kemlin's successful disinformation campaign against the US and how it's prevented even the Biden administration from responding to Russian aggression with equal force.
      We are in this war he has waged against the West--this pretense that we can somehow avoid involvement is wrong-headed, as is the fear that Putin will escalate or use nuclear weapons if we help save Ukraine.
      He has used false flags and he's imagined pretexts to every action he takes against democratic countries. He has threatened nuclear strikes before, knowing the "madman theory of war" effectively diminishes public support for fighting back.
      She must feel increasingly hopeless as we watch Russia destroy the fledgling democracy that was Ukraine. Or maybe I'm projecting.

    • @jlb74a
      @jlb74a 2 роки тому

      she was soooooooo wrong with her BS... there was never a putin-trump "connect"... he should apologize to the orange man....

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +5

      She predicted Jan 6th riot.

    • @browsepals4123
      @browsepals4123 2 роки тому +2

      In other words, Putin invaded during Bush, Obama and Biden's presidency but did not during Trump's term. Very interesting.

  • @edwardb7811
    @edwardb7811 4 роки тому +35

    She sized up Trump very early.

    • @Cyberbronco
      @Cyberbronco 2 роки тому +2

      And she was wrong.

    • @jbattin3034
      @jbattin3034 2 роки тому +10

      Nope pretty spot on actually lol

    • @hollyhold6960
      @hollyhold6960 2 роки тому

      Familiarity with autocracies and an excellent mind.

  • @gladyslustgirdle3004
    @gladyslustgirdle3004 4 роки тому +17

    And we all know how appeasement went in the 1930's!

  • @shakhmoroff123
    @shakhmoroff123 2 роки тому +16

    Not sure you realize the benefits of having a strong legitimate President whose emphasis on energy independence is exactly what Putin fears.

    • @alisonyahna8041
      @alisonyahna8041 2 роки тому +2

      I hope you aren’t implying Trump is strong , nor Putin. Both of them are too unconscious and egos too fragile, which makes them both weak and dangerous, they can not bear to be perceived as anything but number one ( I am the greatest, smartest, strongest etc ad nauseum ) which makes them autocratic prone to despotism and unable to take advice or council. It is the progressives and the left that has been advocating for supporting renewable energy new energy development and less dependence on fossil fuels for many years and the right that has spent trillions enriching warlords in Middle East oil wars.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +2

      We all need renewable energy and quit killing our planet. We have the brains but we value profit above people and our planet and our kid's futures. How sad and rediculous.

  • @appletree6898
    @appletree6898 6 років тому +30

    Her discussion of parallel structures to appease the president and safeguard the government was so prescient, as we can see now with Bob Woodward's book and the anonymous NY Times op-ed.

  • @mishacknthane1060
    @mishacknthane1060 2 роки тому +5

    They are the best, I recently discovered them and I'm hooked. I'm making notes when they speak

  • @awuma
    @awuma 6 років тому +19

    A lot more has come out since this talk concerning Trump's Russian links and the Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign.

    • @youbetyababy
      @youbetyababy 2 роки тому

      This isn't aging very well. I hope your learning something about who to believe.
      Hillary totally fabricated the lie.
      Lol

    • @TheBiggRiggz
      @TheBiggRiggz 2 роки тому

      Curious what your position is now, 3 years later after the whole Russia collusion has been proven to be a hoax. I'll admit that I was taken for a ride myself, it's been a massive undertaking in my own life to realize that things aren't what we've been told AT ALL. It's all bullshit. So no judgements on you at all, whatsoever.

    • @roselee4445
      @roselee4445 2 роки тому

      Yes, 2022 more proof it was Hillary doing Russian thing, not Trump, and I liked Hillary and Bill

    • @gregm55mullen62
      @gregm55mullen62 2 роки тому

      You need to see her discussion on this where she says that Russia always meddles in elections in the west or tries to but there was no co-ordination with Trump or it was at his behest. It was because Putin hated Hillary Clinton with a passion. But she states that ultimately the Russian bot system was on co-ordinated and was not as powerful as people think. And in my own belief her remarks there and here imply that Trump won fair and square and was elected by the people. And I think the liberal media underestimated how disliked Hillary is among her own people. Anyone with a brain or ounce of insight knows she is fighting her personal humiliation demons at the hands of her husband...(and now at the hands of Trump) She wants to but will never be his equal....not that Bill Clinton is a paragon of virtue to try and gain equality of popularity with. . Hillary should just stop at this point....

    • @mikisunshine9334
      @mikisunshine9334 2 роки тому

      We now know it was B.S,
      So much for looking back 3 years later.

  • @markofsaltburn
    @markofsaltburn 2 роки тому +12

    This is the first video I’ve seen with the brilliant Gessen that has no trolling below the line. Please don’t remove trolling, Amherst: it may be offensive and demoralising at first, but the more we see it, the more we recognise it, the more resilient we become, the more likely we are to ignore it, and the less it works.
    The more that happens, the harder the trolls have to work to offend us, and the harder they to do that, the more comical they become. The more comical they become, the less offensive they become.
    Pity the trolls, feel compassion for them; many are doing it under duress in horrible conditions.
    Censorship disempowers the people it seeks to protect, and it empowers our enemies.

    • @AmherstCollege
      @AmherstCollege  2 роки тому +4

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    • @hollyhold6960
      @hollyhold6960 2 роки тому

      Good points, thank you for making them.

    • @Whooopwhhoooop
      @Whooopwhhoooop 2 роки тому +2

      Is a troll somebody who doesn't believe what you do, or agree with you, by any chance? 😆

    • @gina2838
      @gina2838 2 роки тому

      That's a very interesting view point on trolling. The educated find it comical but unfortunately some think it is fact.

  • @dianawatt1657
    @dianawatt1657 2 роки тому +4

    This has weathered well

  • @new_hampshire
    @new_hampshire 2 роки тому +2

    You need to read a couple of books. “American Kompromat” by Craig Unger and “Trump/Russia” by Seth Hettena

  • @raymondgranda201
    @raymondgranda201 2 роки тому +1

    AMAZING insight!

  • @danieleweiser9480
    @danieleweiser9480 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your thorough analysis.

  • @alsix666
    @alsix666 2 роки тому +7

    I'd love to listen to a discussion between her and Dr Jordan Peterson.

  • @abigaileggleston9108
    @abigaileggleston9108 2 роки тому +1

    "Because eventually, there will be some kind of post-Trumpian future, and the health of the public sphere will in large part determine what that future looks like". Prophetic words. I just bought your book.

  • @gabygutierrez8366
    @gabygutierrez8366 2 роки тому +1

    I would like to hear her point of view now since Russian invaded Ukaine

  • @browsepals4123
    @browsepals4123 2 роки тому

    Wasn't her picture on the NY Post cover Saturday, Mar 19, 2022?

  • @pj61114
    @pj61114 2 роки тому +4

    The Bubble that University Professors live in is unsurpassed! As George Bernard Shaw said. “ Those who can do. Those who can’t teach. “

    • @DC-kx1qj
      @DC-kx1qj 2 роки тому +1

      Methinks he was wrong about that. Of course, there are always exceptions.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +5

      Teaching is a skill and an art and VERY necessary if we want to do anything. Shaw was an ass. But to do teaching well is an art.

    • @nonayoung8177
      @nonayoung8177 2 роки тому +1

      bull

  • @noneofyourbusiness150
    @noneofyourbusiness150 2 роки тому

    That's the way it is in Russia. Do what Putin wants or pay the price

  • @youbetyababy
    @youbetyababy 2 роки тому +4

    Not aging well. The Durham report must be highly offensive to these "experts"

    • @DC-kx1qj
      @DC-kx1qj 2 роки тому +1

      Durham, himself, said Fox and the like misrepresented his findings. Can't you put your bias aside for just a bit, so you might gain some insight into how others think and feel? We are your neighbors.

    • @mariarpena2534
      @mariarpena2534 2 роки тому

      People must widely read and well informed by themselves, and discern what is truth and propaganda.
      I hear a lot of personal attacks, and opinions of herself.

    • @mariarpena2534
      @mariarpena2534 2 роки тому

      @youbetyababy
      .
      if not science with mathematical computation, it´s just opinion
      based by on her own proclivities. it‘s more character assasinations
      than weighing on administration‘s achievement and misstep.

  • @f.j282
    @f.j282 2 роки тому +3

    VIVA TRUMP

  • @mnp5404
    @mnp5404 2 роки тому

    Lots of information about the putin/trump dynamic she didn't have back then. Lots of ways the money traveled she had no clue of yet. I wish she could update this or people may actually believe that what she knew then was the final answer.

  • @KP-wg6by
    @KP-wg6by 2 роки тому +3

    This same analysis applies to DEI projects... Gestures first then normalization. Few things following this model wind up in a healthy place

  • @kimjohnson8471
    @kimjohnson8471 2 роки тому +1

    2024 our choices are:
    1. Biden 2. Trump 3. Harris 4. H. Clinton. The decline of the American empire.

    • @uniquelylily1166
      @uniquelylily1166 2 роки тому

      Biden. We'll have a stronger margin in the House and especially the Senate. 😁😎💙🇺🇸

  • @uniquelylily1166
    @uniquelylily1166 2 роки тому

    Little did she know. 2022 now. Bet she's changed her tune about trfufump. I think I'll hold to "With Trump, all roads lead to Russia" a former NSA said.

  • @lynnethomas7635
    @lynnethomas7635 2 роки тому +1

    Rose please get educated.

  • @sharonrose2751
    @sharonrose2751 2 роки тому

    Well, I guess she knew, didn’t she?

  • @miguelcampos7579
    @miguelcampos7579 2 роки тому +1

    please inform President Zelenkyy to live the country if he is alive no one can take Ukraine legally and he can help more from outside he is a brave man but he needs to be smart and see what is better for him and his country.
    if you reed this message please do whatever is in your power to help him he is not thinking in that he is so concern and worry
    Contact the Uk. ambassador and other members of the government to help him

    • @alwayslernin4400
      @alwayslernin4400 2 роки тому +10

      He was offered an escape. He is staying and fighting for his country. The other leaders should take notes. This is a real leader of his people.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +2

      No. We must stand up for our ideals. Otherwise what is the point of living?

  • @mariarpena2534
    @mariarpena2534 2 роки тому

    Trump Cake at inaugural ball from
    Washington bakeshop? Who will pay a night for such trivialities.

  • @steppenwolf3252
    @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +1

    Fox TV

  • @estrellaphilibosian8129
    @estrellaphilibosian8129 2 роки тому +1

    Hollow speech.

  • @ruffshenanigans9582
    @ruffshenanigans9582 2 роки тому

    Trump: not done yet

  • @Marielenas
    @Marielenas 2 роки тому

    Trump played Putin . . .

  • @Starfish2145
    @Starfish2145 2 роки тому +4

    Well obviously she was wrong.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +2

      Nope! It's even worse here than any of us imagined. Trump has damaged our faith in Democracy and rule of law in ways that will take months or years to repair. t's up to each American citizen how long our healing will take.

  • @kingtrumpthegod331
    @kingtrumpthegod331 2 роки тому +4

    She is a towering intellectual on the same level as Trevor Noah, or perhaps Amy Schumer!

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +1

      He's pretty good too. Goody one King but this is not a monarchy. This is a democracy. If you don't treasure your rights, I guess you're unable to participate. I believe in your ability even if you don't my brother. Treasure our democracy because you have never lived in a monarchy. Don't spit on our freedoms. You'll miss it when it's gone, prince T.

  • @randyirish2317
    @randyirish2317 2 роки тому

    T

  • @heidilynwolff7513
    @heidilynwolff7513 2 роки тому +1

    Word salad nonsensical slop. Sad.

  • @roselee4445
    @roselee4445 2 роки тому +4

    I can't believe this woman sat up writing this, a crock of boring hate.

    • @dirkkriel6055
      @dirkkriel6055 2 роки тому

      😡🤮

    • @mariarpena2534
      @mariarpena2534 2 роки тому

      This is nothing more than litigating Putin & Trump in public sphere. Putin and Trump arenˋt there to defend themselves, but that would be a lost of time for towering busy figures like Putin &
      Trump.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +1

      No hate. Just facts. If you disagree, please be specific. It's easy to say it's without any specific details. There are ideas and facts like Ukrainian invasion and Obamas birth place which Trump admitted was a lie he said for at least 4 years. So what specific crap are you talking about?

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +1

      Your comment is full of love and evidence? Silly girl. Why are you afraid of facts? YOu can't even defend your comment, can you? You are fake news

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +2

      You need a brain to imagine anything

  • @_FLUXCAPACITOR
    @_FLUXCAPACITOR 2 роки тому +3

    AND... ITS ALL BS

    • @DC-kx1qj
      @DC-kx1qj 2 роки тому

      Say it louder, a hole, couldn't hear ya.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +1

      What is? if you cannot cite any evidence then you are full of b.s. and fake news.

  • @arturomassa2745
    @arturomassa2745 2 роки тому +4

    What a bunch of crap and cheap propaganda based on nothing. Nauseating....

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +4

      Give your evidence and be specific or else your comment is fake news.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +4

      what is your fake news comment based on Arturo? nothing? right on. You have proved her point.

  • @juancarlosfernandez6796
    @juancarlosfernandez6796 2 роки тому +2

    Joan lady I do pray for you spirit only God can help you you're wrong about Putin like you are wrong about Donald Trump I pray forgot to help you may God bless you

    • @lynnethomas7635
      @lynnethomas7635 2 роки тому

      Hey Jain please keep up to date on global affairs. Putin is now killing children and people in Ukraine..Dictator and killer both are.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +3

      Pray Trump hasn't doomed our democracy. And most all pray for yourself too and the sacredness of our democracy.

  • @roselee4445
    @roselee4445 2 роки тому +2

    This is about as boring as watching a slug move

    • @nancyayers8322
      @nancyayers8322 2 роки тому

      Says someone who has no intellect

    • @DC-kx1qj
      @DC-kx1qj 2 роки тому

      At least you all listened to this...baby steps.

    • @steppenwolf3252
      @steppenwolf3252 2 роки тому +2

      Facts and reality is not boring. If you want to be entertained go to a meaningless rally. Democracy is not boring and our fates are not some dumb TV show. It is serious but we can still have fun and laugh. You're not having enough fun rose--don't be such an angry fool. You deserve better.