In British Columbia, Canada a large number of overdose deaths have been attributed to non-fentanyl drugs that were cut with fentanyl. Probably because it's easy to make, easy to smuggle, fairly cheap and very powerful.
It means they mix it in because it's either a cheap filler when you're selling some drug by the gram. Normally this makes a drug weaker i think, but but cutting it even further with fent, you can still sell something that gives a good high even if the other drug was already less concentrated. I am guessing that the cutting goes badly since these guys aren't exactly known for following pharmalogical best practices when mixing substances.@@benchang1022
Rural Kentucky is ate up with the stuff. You see people out begging in these little town with populations of a few hundred people, which was never a thing 10 years ago. The "economy " in the most rural places in the eastern part of the state is almost 100% SS Retirement, SS Disability, food stamp, and energy assistance based. Stripping copper and other scrap metal is big as well. Without this influx of cash there would be no way for people to survive. It’s really bleak. But it’s also nothing new. People were drinking pop skull moonshine, smoking crack, and getting wasted however they could. But that stuff was limited by being relatively expensive. Fentanyl is so cheap.
Disability *fraud. Industry.* If it were urban/POC, it'd be in news/talk constantly. But it's ignored, like "idyllic" Alaska leading in violent crime rate. Every. Year.
@@_PatrickO There really are no jobs to speak of. You’d have to drive 3 hrs a day to find something worth your while. It’s hard to do with decent cars being so expensive. There is no public transportation at all. Practically everyone who can leave does. A lot join the military. I did. You’re pretty much left with old people, welfare kid farms, and really messed up adults.
@@rexmundi8154 There are less jobs for uneducated americans so eroding education helps no one. New policies over the next 4 years will only be making the wage inequality worse. What sucks is they seem to want to push the same thing javier milei is doing in argentina on us. Reduce government by 70% and let poor people suffer unless foreign investors show up and create jobs. The problem is that argentina has 200% inflation. These changes got them down to US level of inflation. The US was managing inflation well already and does not need to destroy the government which takes away the advantages and stability of the US system. Under the new pres, wealth inequality will worsen. If consumers have no money, the economy collapses. If US customers get use to buying nothing, we become china. Chinese business people still willing to tell the truth are admitting that the lack of a consumer economy is why china is collapsing and cannot survive the heavy cutting trade with china that has been going on over the last few years. China was relying on western consumption and never created a local economy for itself.
This is waaay too late for discussions about fentanyl. There are new synthetic opioids now appearing known as nitazenes that are up to 40 times more powerful than fentanyl. We also need to discuss whether these NSOs are part of a hybrid war strategy against the West.
It's never too late to get educated. He makes some very good points and illuminates the problem very well. That said, these synthetic opioids are very effective chemical warfare agents. What's so bad about life in America but people need to take this s***?
It absolutely part of a hybrid war strategy against the west. It's China's revenge for the Opium wars and 100 years of humiliation. Oh and wasn't there a massive hack against US telecoms just recently? China uses plausible deniability as a weapon, even going so far as to placing criminals and hackers into countries like Cambodia (but still funding them and directing them) so they can claim "it wasn't us". China is at war with us whether we like it or not and I hope people start to wake up to that fact.
Comparing fentanyl and cocaine in terms of man-hours/dose was the highlight of the video for me. Second was the supply chain for each drug. Particularly that cocaine has a very linear process to go from organic material to drugs on the street, whereas as fentanyl is very fractured and desperate because it’s a synthetic and can be produced by a large number of people. This type of information is why I stick with Peter, despite his tendencies to wander off into areas which aren’t his strong suit.
It seems completely wrong. Consider weed. Nobody would produce it if the hours was the main factor, and the cost per dose would be phenomenal. The main issue for the vast amount of prohibited substances would be (created) scarcity of the inputs. Most substances are relatively simple to make and could be within a week without issue if it wasn't for legislation etc.
Many reasons, some complex, some simple. Human beings are infinitely complex and infinitely diverse and seeking any kind of silver bullet for any human social problem has *ALWAYS FAILED.* 😐
Happy people that lives good lives, don't overdose on fentanyl. So Trump and alt right politics is definitely an driving factor for heavy drug abuse. Free healthcare (including mental healthcare) and social security is the way to combat drugs.
Some years ago they gave Fentanyl to my wife in the hospital. She absolutely went berserk, and we added it to the list of medications she was never to be given.
Different context. Fentanyl as a street drug is a killer. It is highly useful and good when used in hospitals for sedation and analgesia, typically during surgery.
It's really useful as an anaesthetic in hospital, unless your wife has an addictive personality it shouldn't be a problem. Ketamine is still used in most ENT / nasal surgery despite being a famous party drug and horse tranquiliser - It's also the most common medicine used to anesthetize children and babies for surgery.
The normalization of drug overdosing is really disturbing to me. Narcan and Narcan training is widely used now, as an overdose emergency treatment, even at a little theater where I work. This normalizes the drug use by normalizing the treatment at every level of society. I'm really glad Peter has brought this up. Oh, and the treatment was giving a Narcan spray up the nose to anyone down and unconscious, be it Fentanyl, epilepsy or cardiac arrest. Whatever company that makes this must be doing well. Hmmm.
It's not surprising. A firefighter EMT I know says most of his calls are for opioid overdose, and this is in a fairly wealthy area with lots of retirees. If the person is under 60 Narcan spray is a good bet for any unconscious person.
@@jmodified True, that. I should say that I just did a snout around for the manufacturer, and Emergent Biotechnologies actually seems like a decent company, providing aerosol treatments and vaccine inhalants for things like anthrax, dengue fever, and other such horrible diseases. They aren't doing as well as I thought they would be, so stock prices are still low. 🙂 I am conflicted about this.
The problem is that the only way to solve drug addiction problem is not be preventing it manufacturing or disterbution, by by creating the educational and social conditions that people wouldn't want to use them. and THAT, is much more dificult.
That ship has sailed long ago. The sort of selfish and shallow society we've created, that champions the worst personality traits in people and encourages self deception in favor of discipline.......social media in other words....you can't really undo what's happened easily, and you need people to want the change.
@@olleharstedt3750 Well, I have to admit that at this point I don't have any answers anymore. I used to be really great at reading people, sizing them up and figuring out what they were after in general......today I don't have an effing clue what goes on in people's heads. I don't even want to anymore.
The bigger issue is the why behind fentanyl use. We're seeing some serious economic disparity within our youth population. Those who cannot make themselves feel good with major purchases like cars and houses, while still being tantalized by their phones with the desire for those things, will find other ways to stimulate the reward system of the brain. Yuck!
The same party pretending to care about fentanyl is the party eroding the education system and opposing better wages, making the problem worse. It sucks.
@@frequentlycynical642 You’ve clearly never lived near real poverty before, because this is a moronic take. Your lack of empathy for people just like you is embarrassing and disgraceful
@@frequentlycynical642 No it isn't, and neither is ignorance. You're denying well established science on how the human brain works whenit comes to susbtance abuse and addiction. Just because some people choose to do it voluntarily and then become addicted doesn't mean there aren't people who are actually vulnerable and being taken advantage of.
Buddy, shit is old news. 10 years ago Carfentanyl was new. Nowadays you can get designer opioids that are 1000x more potent than fentanyl. (No one really uses those tho. Fentanyl is cheaper & plenty powerful for most cases). Fentanyl is NOT, however, potent enough to kill a person who ingests 2 grains of sand worth. Not even close. There are fentanyl derivatives that are powerful enough to require special handling. Plain old Fentanyl isn’t dangerous b/c it’s super potent. It’s dangerous…see my reply to this comment. I’ll copy paste
Fentanyl isn’t nearly as potent as you suggest. A few grains of sand worth isn’t enough to kill anyone. It’s not harmless, but so long as you’re not using it IV, overdosing requires one to ingest an amount that is considerably larger than it’s possible to ingest accidentally. Now, that non-iv OD threshold is low enough that ppl without an opiate tolerance can & do unintentionally OD after consuming an otherwise relatively safe quantity of some other drug that was laced/ cut with fentanyl. These non-iv ODs are rare enough to make up an only a relative handful of the ODs related to fentanyl. They get the vast majority of the press, however, because they play into the fears of parents while confirming misplaced beliefs that lead ppl to see fentanyl as something more akin to history’s most potent & terrifying chemical weapons than what it actually is: an easily produced synthetic opioid w/ a short half-life & mid to high potency, which has been safely administered to millions of patients a day, every day, for nearly 30 years. The ease of manufacture & relative ease of overdose (less from some insanely high potency, more due to the OD threshold differing from most comparable street drugs which tend to be slower acting & longer lasting & therefore require a dosage pattern dissimilar to the equivalent dosage pattern for fentanyl. Furthermore, the fast acting short lasting nature of fentanyl can lead ppl to ingest heroine that is cut with it more frequently than they would otherwise as the short sharp high from the fentanyl leads them to believe that the reason their high keeps quickly fading is an inadequately small dose of pure heroine. In short, it’s dangerous, but not because it’s potent enough to be a Soviet bio weapon) make fentanyl a legitimate concern. Its potency is more often than not overblown & little more than click bait or a red herring.
I was thinking the exact same thing. That was by far the highlight of the video for me. It perfectly summarizes the economic comparisons between fentanyl and cocaine. It’s things like this that I like the most about Peter, despite his tendency to wander into topics where he’s not an expert.
The impact of this drugs and others have touch every family in the US. A relative under its influenced has either died or caused harm to another person.
@@davidbryant2450 Nope, not mine either .Aside from chasing some ever escaping high not sure why knowing the odds of OD due to quality control issues are out there that anyone would take the risk of consuming that drug.. incidental tainted supplies of other (safer) drugs not withstanding.
I've yet to hear one cogent argument for keeping these drugs illegal. Somehow we already went through this with alcohol prohibition in the 1930s, realized it was a disaster and reversed it, but have been expecting different results from virtually every other recreational intoxicant since.
Prohibition created the worlds first criminal millionaires. The current drug policy has created the world first criminal trillionaires, with enough silver to spread around everywhere there is any hint of a sane drug policy that would put an end to a profit level that the laws create. Now with bitcoin it is hard to see how our drug laws will not eventually lead to more and worse of the same.
Despite the many obvious failures of Prohibition, it must be noted that rates if alcoholism and deaths due to cirrhosis did significantly decrease during that time.
Here's the cogent arguments you've heard before, but still willfully ignore... Seattle. Portland, OR San Francisco. All of these left-wing loony bins tried to decriminalize all drugs and it did was... increase the population of addicted and homeless, as predicted by "crazy right wingers!". Liberals and liebertarians will never learn.
@@speleotrog How can any stats on that be reliable? Everything was underground. People in masses were drinking moonshine that was adulterated with the wrong kind of alcohol that poisoned people's liver at unprecedented rates and most of them were not going to go to the hospital because they were wrapped up in an illegal scheme. It's the same thing today. When someone overdoses on some opioid it's usually because they don't know how strong it is or what it's cut with, a problem that would be solved if they could get dose-specific samples from a name brand at a store that didn't want to be sued for mislabeling.
Persecuting drugs creates an incentive structure that favors hard chemical drugs over softer plant based drugs, as you need lower dosages (=> harder to proof in drug tests), less volume to smuggle, less smells, no large fields that need to stay undetected for months on end. Also, with chemical drugs you can modify the molecule to evade laws or at least the drug test. The war on drugs has given us harder drugs and will continue to do so. "Harder drugs" are even worse than "more drugs. It is time to rethink.
The worst thing it gives us is poor dose control, which I suspect kills the majority of addicts (or at least hastens it). If they could buy a box of preloaded needles at CVS, made by a FDA regulated pharma company, then at least OD ing would have to be a conscious choice and not "oops I didn't know what the dealer cut this with".
@@tristan7216 do you really want big governance mugging the taxpayer to being your d supplier? Didn’t the methadone experiments show people would just sell it to then buy the street version again? So what if it would be a measured dose. Any dose has the potential to switch you off. (cant type the k or d word lest this gets hidden)
The LD50 for cocaine is 95.1 mg/kg. For a 90kg man, the average US male, that would be a fraction over 8.5 grams. Meaning over 50% of them would survive 8.5 grams. 1.2g is way off and well within the limits of what I would have called a good night in the 90's.
If the average American male is 90kg, that’s a problem. It’s not a drug problem but it is a cardio vascular problem and a diabetes problem. 90kg is heavy. At 80kg and 174 cm I am considered “heavy”.
That is usually figured with a 150lb body weight. In contrast the LD50 for caffeine is .5 grams. Think about it. It's all in the dosage that turns a useful substance into a poison. In areas where coca leaves are chewed for a lift there is no cocaine problem yet it is widely used.
We had the son of one of our friends (who had served in the US Military in Afghanistan), who died from a fentanyl overdose. It was even worse for him because he also had (apparently) taken an animal tranquilizer that causes terrible infections of the facia that destroyed one of his legs. Nobody knows what's in stuff you take from the street. Not even the people who mix it, and make it look like a "legitimate" dose. In Vietnam, soldiers taking stuff there had the insecticide Paraquat mixed in it. As a retired physician, I still believe that illicit drug use is a "personal decision." I acknowledge that later on the doses "destroy" the brain. But the first few doses are YOUR OWN CHOICE. I cannot understand why some young people take those first few doses. It takes only a small amount of Fentanyl to cause respiratory depression and death. Even if the stuff comes in from Mexico (and there is no doubt that it does), unless you willingly take it, it will not kill you. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA) Retired surgeon Previous owner of Medicare Certified Surgical Center
Most people who die from fentanyl literally snorted some coke or something like that and it has been cross contaminated more often by accident as people selling different drugs aren’t operating a lab environment. I agree that it’s your choice to take whatever you want and in the U.K. heroin was available on prescription until the USA told the world that was not going to happen in 1971. Guess what? 2000 addicts until then who mostly held down some kind of job, but 1975 when it had been made illegal in the “war on drugs” there were 200,000 addicts. When something is completely illegal you have zero control over it, at least prescription to an addict keep them in safe limits and stops the black market as the prescription is often free or super cheap
You can find out exactly what's in it with GCMS or a new system that uses near infrared.That 2nd device is in several injection centers in NYC (I don't take sides on that) but I remember,and there's articles archived on the fact that in February of '92,3 decades ago it was all over the Bronx, several people died,more would except for the fact the cops were going up and down the streets using loudspeakers not to use it.Was this a beta test.Ive lost more people I know in the last 3years than from '67 to '21😢
Three things I miss about the early 2000's: No smart phones, no social media, and the drugs, while usually not pure, at least weren't cut with fentanyl.
In last 3 years, I have know 2 people who died from fentanyl. One of which, even her husband didn't know she was using. Left behind a 1 year old baby girl. Truly tragic.
It’s hard to believe that someone’s spouse could be completely unaware of fentanyl use. There’s so many things that coincide with drug use with deteriorating lifestyle habits, how could someone be unaware? Not trying to be disrespectful or minimize the loss…. There just has to be more to the story here.
@@oe542 Yeah, there is always another side to the story. From what I understand, she went to a concert on the east coast with a friend about 2 weeks before she died and had some sort of fight with her. She ended up getting a ride back with some other people she met at the concert. After the concert she went to her mothers, which is actually where she died. My guess is the people she got a ride back with were using and that's where she got the drugs. Even a few days before she died, the story seemed very strange to me. I might have something to say about my wife traveling across the country with strangers she met at a concert but all I know is it had a terrible outcome.
This is what Esther A Berg does, she has changed my life. After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son's (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.
Why do so many people want to blow their minds? Boredom, exuberance, despair, self-destruction? I don't understand it. Were all the other substances that already existed not enough?
Addiction is a disease of the mind. Funny how you don’t look down on cancer patients, but you do look down on addicts. Some people get hooked, some don’t. The only people to blame are the manufacturers. No product, no addiction.
@@maynardlikethecandy5347 , you're right, people don't look down on cancer patients like we do on addicts. Addicts CHOSE to consume their disease. The same we look down on some idiot who chose to play Russian roulette. Fun and exciting til it's not.
Just because they exist doesn’t mean people have access to them genius. Opiates are different from other kinds of drugs. The last thing they do is “blow your mind” they numb your pain and senses and make the misery of life feel warm and comfortable
@maynardlikethecandy5347 Holding addicts blameless like cancer patients is asinine. Cancer patients have no choice in whether or not they have cancer, but addicts make choices that put them where they are. They are not victims with no say in the matter *initially*, they only become that after they make the wrong choice!
@@maynardlikethecandy5347 The state has tried long enough to keep substances away from people. In vain! Where there is a need, there is a supplier to meet that need. But I'm more interested in why so many people want to take these substances. What is the point?
Not worried about the US..he means the nation state, as a system doesn't have anything to worry about. The folks who get left behind, are not in the equation here
Wrong comparison. Fenty deaths mainly take young naive zoomers who take it thinking it's Percocet. Cirrhosis maainly takes hardened alcoholics who offer nothing of value to society
True, alcohol wrecks a lot of lives outright and deals more subtle harm to many more, and the world would be a better place if getting drunk were not considered completely normal. On the other hand, a majority of the population enjoy alcohol responsively. Which cannot be said for fentanyl, I suppose.
@@richardmetzler7909 How can you enjoy alcohol responsively when we now know that even one small drink once in a while is toxic to every cell in you body. Alcohol is a plague and all in all a shit drug. People would be better off growing poppies in their backyard and harvesting the pods to make tea, because natural opium is one of the least harmful drugs, which people can use for decades without problems while maintaining a job.
@@richardmetzler7909there is absolutely no responsable way to ingest alcohol, and that is part of the problem, people thinking there is. People this days still think getting a glass of wine is healthy which has been proven wrong (there was one affection in which it could help, but taking the proper treatment was way WAY better with no downside effects)
You’re correct. Just like Chinese anchors dragging over data lines in European waters is no accident, the fentanyl crisis in the US is no accident. They are both forms of malicious Chinese hybrid warfare with intent to harm. The West needs to treat China like the enemy they are. Time to wake up to that reality.
I have a garage! Thanks to Peter I’m now in the business!! on a serious note, the amount of accidental overdose from people who think they’re grabbing one thing but hit with that and die is outrageous many celebrities children and people in my neighbourhood grabbing a pill of this and they get fentanyl and die. Very sad all drugs should be assumed to be contaminated
You don't say! Buying a pill manufactured by Mexican school dropouts and sold to us from a scruffy dude with tattoos and piercings on the street at night might be contaminated? That is quite an assumption, there.
Just in the name of thoroughness: Annual alcohol mortality: upwards of 200,000/year; Annual nicotine mortality: upwards of 500,000/year. Both are legal, as is Fentanyl (but only for actual medical use).
In Vancouver, BC, we have people walking around bent over 160 degrees at their waist starring backwards through their own legs like human triangles and an army of advocates insisting that part of their rights and pursuit of happiness is to maintain that lifestyle. This problem will plague the western world until progressives change their tune. A lot of them honestly compare this stuff to going out for a beer.
The reason why they're doing that is because the fentanyl is so strong it's literally trying to kill them and their body is shutting down. What they consider getting high is actually close to death and their body is literally in a state of dying. Believe me I know I was on heroin for 20 years and first saw fentanyl in 2013 and Peter is a little late to the show but better late than never.
My niece just died of a fentanyl overdose in Austin last summer. She was young and beautiful, and a shining light to so many people, and she died before she was 30.
Decriminalise drugs, doctors percription, chemist shop delivery, 50% reduction in crime and homeless people, no marketing. And kindly ask China to end the optimum ( P ) war, simple way to end the drug trade
Root cause of the Oxycodine Opiod crisis is that Oxycodine has a 8-hour halflife but is FDA regulated for a 12-hour doctor prescription. The irony is that this is done to alleviate the moral panic about opiate attiction, but the practical end result is a society of patients in chronic opiate withdrawal whilst doctors are only regulated to increase the dosage but not change the schedule, thus these patients resort to black market opiates such as Fentanyl. Recommendation is to have the FDA reinvestigate Oxycodine scheduling guidelines for 8 hour prescription dosage and allow patients increased supply to properly meet their pain needs,
Is it just me or did fentanyl really only become an issue once the rich kids started dropping? ODs have been a problem for decades but the moment folks starts screwing with the high society drugs we gotta issue. Just an observation
Hello from Colorado! I started being interested in geopolitics after reading "The Politics of Heroin CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade" by A.W. McCoy. The opioid crisis certainly set up our nation for the next crisis of Fentanyl and meth. Being able to access Narcan without a prescription here in Colorado was an important public health decision, but I still feel like I am shoveling snow ❄️ out of my driveway using a teaspoon. Thank you for starting the conversation on the drug crisis . I suspect that China is not really interested in preventing the precursors from being shipped to Mexico and the USA after the whole Opium Wars thing with Great Britain and western powers. Kind of ironic or karmic!?
There’s usually a five year cycle on dangerous drugs by the process you’ve described. Kids learn from their older siblings when the older siblings start dying the kids learn quick.
The fentanyl deaths have going on longer than 5 years, primarily because it is vastly more pervasive than a recreational drug. Tha't's why Pete is worried about it.
They have actually been cracking down hard on fentanyl from Mexico including a huge bust in Mexico recently. It has been harder to find the quality has gone down thankfully many people have actually quit doing it because the quality is so bad. I feed the Homeless in Denver and drug addiction is the number one problem of the people I feed.
One factor is that doctors are cracking down on legal pain meds to where people are left in great pain to 'avoid addiction'. I had to tell a friend of mine, who has medical problems, 'if you use street drugs you will die. If Prince couldn't manage his pain meds, what chance do you have?'
A lot of people got hooked on painkillers in the early 2000’s with OxyContin. It created demand and requires higher doses to get the same high, so up the ladder they go along with their “friends”, who get hooked instantly.
Chinese mafias are the worse because they are the ones who produce fentanyl, south America mafias with they usual business, Russian and chinese mafias that want to destroy the West, specially the US... Destroy from within, specially the new generations that are the future... Say no to drugs and yes to your countrie should be an publicity sketch... Chinese did always this, remember ópio??!
"Cocaine's bad, don't do more than a gram," you don't get this kind of insight from geopolitical strategists without a ponytail. This is why I keep coming back.
I never realized just how terrible fentanyl was until I had it administered to me in a clinical environment. Being wide awake while large needles are shoved all the way through to my pleural cavity, unable to feel a thing, is terrifying.
The US seems to have many more deaths from fentanyl per 100,000 people than other western nations like Canada, UK, Australia etc. I wonder if proximity to Mexico and established drug infrastructure is the reason or it is social structures/issues within the US.
It’s both. American society has surprisingly little for keeping its teenage boys from avoiding trouble. We have a lot of fatherless households, mainly through divorce. Teenagers have few of the privileges of adulthood, (not permitted to sign contracts, can’t vote, can’t rent an apartment), but many of the responsibilities (they can be tried as an adult for many crimes). It’s difficult being an American teenager.
This is more of a roll on from the opioid crisis, and the improved product. I am a little surprised that domestic "industry" has not stepped it up but probably are getting out organized (euphemism for murder) by established cartels. Care and treatment of addicts as well as effective prevention has not been a US strong suit, neither has proving a safely net. (My personal opinion on a big cause is crushing poverty and consuming media that says, what is success looks like and basically - you look at your life and don't see that happening. ) (again, my opinion and i am extremely lucky that this very real crisis has not directly impacted anyone close to me.)
@@SonnyBubbaI would completely agree that dissolution of the American family unit is partially to blame for our national problem. Yet, most Western democracies have similar divorce rates and they don't have nearly the drug problem we have. Ultimately, this is a societal issue and a cultural issue, yet having strong male figure in the household, I believe would make a huge difference. In the effort to limit the power of the top 20% of men, society has disenfranchised the rest of the 80% also. Maybe not treating men as they are disposable in the family structure would do a huge help for the drug problem.
Synthetics are messed up, bad for organic bio- human, whats the point selling something will kill your clients ....I hate it when dealers sell or lace this stuff to kids, non-users
Hey Zeihan.... When can we expect PETER ZEIHAN merchandise to be available?? I'd like to order the "Cocaine Is Bad, But Don't Do More A Gram" Zeihan T-Shirt for my cokehead friend for Christmas!!🤣
@@georgepratt3721 Nobody could have predicted that Biden would voluntarily drop out of the race. Or that the Democrats would turn their convention into a Kamala love fest. Peter’s prediction was that if Biden had died before the convention, the democrats would have an opportunity for an honest debate. But if Biden had died after the convention, they’d be stuck with unpopular Kamala. We may never know what back room deals were struck to force Biden out and keep all the contenders from challenging Kamala. But it defied all predictions.
Four years late on fentanyl Peter, but welcome aboard. And wonder of wonders the senate today took up the cause of RFK and have started to question the major food companies on why diabetes and obsesity are at ridiculous points.
Peter. Oh my. You mentioned that fentanyl deaths in the USA dropped a bit. Alas, you completely missed the reason: heavy fentanyl users die off, shrinking the pool of heavy fentanyl users. There may be as many users as ever.
He's basically given us a how to manual on how to get into the business here. No wonder his Patreon subscribers are so eager to get these videos early lol
I came to the comments just to see if anyone else heard that dog-whistle. If this is really a problem Peter is worried about, it feels like he just made it much worse by providing many of his listeners with a roadmap for essentially “how three guys with no education can make a million bucks in a month-and three guys with degrees and skills could make 6-8X.”
Im disappointed on this topic. Ive done some studying on this and ur not talking about the real problem. China is paying people and companys a bonus for shipping or selling fentayl products to the u.s or if its gonna make it there, this is china at war with the u.s and the western world and is a f u from the opium wars back in the day. If china stopped telling people theyll give them bonuses for shipping this stuff it would make this issue much smaller.
I often think it’s China using hybrid warfare and actively damaging U.S. society . But I could be wrong. The impact is two Vietnam war’s every years in casualties. The economic cost / damage is significant .
China had first hand experience of being a victim of this during the Opium Wars. They now have all the knowledge to inflict such methods on their enemies
Your assertion that fentanyl production could easily move from Mexico to the U.S. is doubtful. Mexico does not have the insane tech surveillance that U.S. law enforcement has. In Mexico somebody has to snitch on a drug dealer to get on police radar. In the U.S. an algorithm picks up communications suggesting somebody is a drug dealer and a tip is fed down to local law enforcement for targeted stops, search warrants etc.
you owe me a cup of coffee, your comment made me spit mine out all over my keyboard laughing, and no, Eric Clapton will probably not write a sing about it
What do you think those rubber people are doing when they are bent at the waste looking at their feet, frozen that way for minutes? They are writing lyrics on the sidewalk. Don't disturb the genius.
Peter, I live in a country that has the solution for drug addictions of all types. Fentanyl addicts and everyone else who is addicted to a drug or substance can be handled in a number of ways. In your country, billions of dollars are spent on law enforcement, cops on the beat suffer terrible facial gunshot wounds every day from small-time dealers shooting them in the face to get away from being arrested. This terrible scene can be taken care of with the addicts having a place to go in every town and city where drug addicts hang out and get a free dose of their favorite drug without law enforcement involved. Drugs are for sick people; the cops should not be involved in what is clearly a medical problem. In our country, free drugs are given to these 'sick' people by trained medical staff and clean syringes as well. It makes no sense to try to go after the suppliers and street dealers, what governments have to do is accept that people use dangerous drugs, but that they, the government, helps these people get their fix and as time goes on they can try other drugs that are less addictive, but first and foremost, give addicts the drugs they need to make it through the day and it would probably save 100 people a day from getting mugged or worse by drug addicts who need a fix.
Im glad you are addressing this, because I saw a story about fentanyl "cook" operations, and it literally is hundreds, nay thousands of 3-5 man or (Jabronis lol) ops, making batches, and they make a lotta cash for little work.
Part of the benefit of a *UNIVERSAL* 25%+ tariff on all imports is that this will finally incentivize our government to pay attention to *everything* that crosses the border. Anti-smuggling enforcement will curb the fentanyl war being waged on Americans.
You can thank the Republican Party for Fentanyl. Republican politicians pushed through Oxycontin through the FDA approval process... and reignited the opioid epidemic. Once the death toll started to reach historic heights, The federal Government cracked down on Oxycontin production and distribution. However, the opioid demand was still high. This is when Fentanyl took Oxycontin's place.
Heroin took oxycontin's place and it was on both sides of the aisle not just the Republicans, and believe me I'm anti both sides of government. And was addicted to heroin because of oxycontin thank you Purdue pharma. Imagine being prescribed 75 mg a day of oxycontin for horrible chronic pain for 2 years because you need to get 8 surgeries in a 2-year period because of genetics that you were born with what that would do to you as a 21 year old. The guy who killed the United healthcare CEO that was me for 7 years I wanted to un alive the doctor that got me hooked on oxycontin. I was a firefighter and been in the department for 3 years had a career going and a great life all lost everything lost because of oxycontin. And yeah it was doctors and politicians and executives and CEOs on all sides doing that.
street drugs, alcohol, food, social media, excessive exercise, all coping strategies for trauma, treat the trauma and the addiction will lose its overall strength
Always good to add some perspective. The percent of Americans dying of an overdose is .035 % per year. Not an epidemic. Not a crisis. 46,000 , Americans die from falls each year. That is about half the deaths from overdoses.
so simple that a high school chemistry teacher and a drop out could run it.
no someone who passed a college organic chemistry I can be an excellent fent cook is what he is saying
That would make a great TV show......"Nah.....who would ever believe that". ;-)
Don’t even need the high school teacher lol
I see what you did there.
You're god damn right.
In British Columbia, Canada a large number of overdose deaths have been attributed to non-fentanyl drugs that were cut with fentanyl. Probably because it's easy to make, easy to smuggle, fairly cheap and very powerful.
And the supreme court cleared a path for not just BC's lawsuit against big pharma........but for all the other provinces to join in.
when one says "cut with fenanyl" what does that mean?
@benchang1022 it means fentynal was added to another drug. Like how you'd water down liquor to stretch it.
@@benchang1022added to increase effect and/or weight. In this case it's effect.
It means they mix it in because it's either a cheap filler when you're selling some drug by the gram. Normally this makes a drug weaker i think, but but cutting it even further with fent, you can still sell something that gives a good high even if the other drug was already less concentrated. I am guessing that the cutting goes badly since these guys aren't exactly known for following pharmalogical best practices when mixing substances.@@benchang1022
I like the video release date. Far less confusing. Cheers.
I would rather see “video recorded on” date.
That would make it even less confusing.
@@user-ed1gj1ng5g If this is confusing to you, you have greater issues, friend. 😊
@@user-ed1gj1ng5g Fill the words in yourself. There. Unconfused.
@@user-ed1gj1ng5g I think his turn around is pretty short. There usually isn't much editing, maybe one or two cuts
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Rural Kentucky is ate up with the stuff. You see people out begging in these little town with populations of a few hundred people, which was never a thing 10 years ago. The "economy " in the most rural places in the eastern part of the state is almost 100% SS Retirement, SS Disability, food stamp, and energy assistance based. Stripping copper and other scrap metal is big as well. Without this influx of cash there would be no way for people to survive. It’s really bleak. But it’s also nothing new. People were drinking pop skull moonshine, smoking crack, and getting wasted however they could. But that stuff was limited by being relatively expensive. Fentanyl is so cheap.
Disability *fraud. Industry.* If it were urban/POC, it'd be in news/talk constantly. But it's ignored, like "idyllic" Alaska leading in violent crime rate. Every. Year.
It’s really a sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately the education system has been eroded despite being the best weapon against something like this.
@@_PatrickO There really are no jobs to speak of. You’d have to drive 3 hrs a day to find something worth your while. It’s hard to do with decent cars being so expensive. There is no public transportation at all. Practically everyone who can leave does. A lot join the military. I did. You’re pretty much left with old people, welfare kid farms, and really messed up adults.
@@rexmundi8154 There are less jobs for uneducated americans so eroding education helps no one. New policies over the next 4 years will only be making the wage inequality worse. What sucks is they seem to want to push the same thing javier milei is doing in argentina on us. Reduce government by 70% and let poor people suffer unless foreign investors show up and create jobs. The problem is that argentina has 200% inflation. These changes got them down to US level of inflation.
The US was managing inflation well already and does not need to destroy the government which takes away the advantages and stability of the US system.
Under the new pres, wealth inequality will worsen. If consumers have no money, the economy collapses. If US customers get use to buying nothing, we become china. Chinese business people still willing to tell the truth are admitting that the lack of a consumer economy is why china is collapsing and cannot survive the heavy cutting trade with china that has been going on over the last few years. China was relying on western consumption and never created a local economy for itself.
This is waaay too late for discussions about fentanyl. There are new synthetic opioids now appearing known as nitazenes that are up to 40 times more powerful than fentanyl.
We also need to discuss whether these NSOs are part of a hybrid war strategy against the West.
Nitazenes....where....where can I find some??? For research purposes of course.
It's never too late to get educated. He makes some very good points and illuminates the problem very well. That said, these synthetic opioids are very effective chemical warfare agents. What's so bad about life in America but people need to take this s***?
It absolutely part of a hybrid war strategy against the west. It's China's revenge for the Opium wars and 100 years of humiliation. Oh and wasn't there a massive hack against US telecoms just recently? China uses plausible deniability as a weapon, even going so far as to placing criminals and hackers into countries like Cambodia (but still funding them and directing them) so they can claim "it wasn't us". China is at war with us whether we like it or not and I hope people start to wake up to that fact.
Well if Fentanyl isn't strong enough Carfentanil exists 👍 about 100x stronger than Fent, making it 10,000 more potent than morphine.
Link?
Comparing fentanyl and cocaine in terms of man-hours/dose was the highlight of the video for me. Second was the supply chain for each drug. Particularly that cocaine has a very linear process to go from organic material to drugs on the street, whereas as fentanyl is very fractured and desperate because it’s a synthetic and can be produced by a large number of people. This type of information is why I stick with Peter, despite his tendencies to wander off into areas which aren’t his strong suit.
zeihann is just concerned his stash is getting spiked w fent
It seems completely wrong. Consider weed. Nobody would produce it if the hours was the main factor, and the cost per dose would be phenomenal. The main issue for the vast amount of prohibited substances would be (created) scarcity of the inputs. Most substances are relatively simple to make and could be within a week without issue if it wasn't for legislation etc.
Yet he completely ignores Biden’s open borders policies because he’s so ate up with TDS.
'Cocaine's bad but don't do more than a gram.' Priceless
Drugs are bad, m'kay.. .
Euh ... temperance is king . I guess .
"1.2 grams is a lethal dose"
Peter, my friend, believe me it's not.
😂😂😂😅
Well depends on route of administration@@then9779
Peter, this was a very informative session. This type of topic is your strength along with several other areas. Please provide more of this.
No he sucks he doesn’t talk about legalization
The elephant in the room: why do Americans use drugs so much? What’s wrong with the USA that makes people flee into a drug addiction?
Is part of the POP CULTURE!!👺🔥👺
Materialism
Envy
US government is not set up to get rid of drug addiction.🥰to collect tax is the most important task of a government.
Many reasons, some complex, some simple. Human beings are infinitely complex and infinitely diverse and seeking any kind of silver bullet for any human social problem has *ALWAYS FAILED.* 😐
MENTAL HEALTH IS THE MAIN ISSUE. There, narrowed it down for you.
Happy people that lives good lives, don't overdose on fentanyl. So Trump and alt right politics is definitely an driving factor for heavy drug abuse. Free healthcare (including mental healthcare) and social security is the way to combat drugs.
@@lubricustheslippery5028lol
@@lubricustheslippery5028 Meanwhile Joe Biden's son is an abject crackhead and Trump's kids have never had a sip of alcohol.
Canada has this. We have the same horrible problem. @lubricustheslippery5028
@@lubricustheslippery5028i mean there was more death while biden was in office
Some years ago they gave Fentanyl to my wife in the hospital. She absolutely went berserk, and we added it to the list of medications she was never to be given.
If she went berserk I don't think it was fentanyl....
Different context. Fentanyl as a street drug is a killer. It is highly useful and good when used in hospitals for sedation and analgesia, typically during surgery.
Everyone wants to be included….
@@LoveForBluebirdsyes in uk and not minor surgery.
It's really useful as an anaesthetic in hospital, unless your wife has an addictive personality it shouldn't be a problem. Ketamine is still used in most ENT / nasal surgery despite being a famous party drug and horse tranquiliser - It's also the most common medicine used to anesthetize children and babies for surgery.
The normalization of drug overdosing is really disturbing to me. Narcan and Narcan training is widely used now, as an overdose emergency treatment, even at a little theater where I work. This normalizes the drug use by normalizing the treatment at every level of society. I'm really glad Peter has brought this up.
Oh, and the treatment was giving a Narcan spray up the nose to anyone down and unconscious, be it Fentanyl, epilepsy or cardiac arrest. Whatever company that makes this must be doing well. Hmmm.
It's not surprising. A firefighter EMT I know says most of his calls are for opioid overdose, and this is in a fairly wealthy area with lots of retirees. If the person is under 60 Narcan spray is a good bet for any unconscious person.
@@jmodified True, that. I should say that I just did a snout around for the manufacturer, and Emergent Biotechnologies actually seems like a decent company, providing aerosol treatments and vaccine inhalants for things like anthrax, dengue fever, and other such horrible diseases. They aren't doing as well as I thought they would be, so stock prices are still low. 🙂 I am conflicted about this.
The problem is that the only way to solve drug addiction problem is not be preventing it manufacturing or disterbution, by by creating the educational and social conditions that people wouldn't want to use them. and THAT, is much more dificult.
Some would say it's impossible.😐
Stop docs and dentists from prescribing oxy for minor pain.
That ship has sailed long ago. The sort of selfish and shallow society we've created, that champions the worst personality traits in people and encourages self deception in favor of discipline.......social media in other words....you can't really undo what's happened easily, and you need people to want the change.
People are not perfect. Demand will never be zero, but yea, maybe it can be decreased with proper mental health support.
@@olleharstedt3750 Well, I have to admit that at this point I don't have any answers anymore. I used to be really great at reading people, sizing them up and figuring out what they were after in general......today I don't have an effing clue what goes on in people's heads. I don't even want to anymore.
Good work. Thank you for adding the release date. That helps a lot.
The bigger issue is the why behind fentanyl use. We're seeing some serious economic disparity within our youth population. Those who cannot make themselves feel good with major purchases like cars and houses, while still being tantalized by their phones with the desire for those things, will find other ways to stimulate the reward system of the brain. Yuck!
Who knew having worse wealth inequality than 1700's France would leave to lives of despair and drugs of despair?! Who knew?!
not just that, it also cultural thing. your music rap glorifying drug and crime
The same party pretending to care about fentanyl is the party eroding the education system and opposing better wages, making the problem worse. It sucks.
When you take God out of the equation - you get ultimate despair and disfunction
Sounds like a skill issue
My heart breaks for vulnerable Americans.
Vulnerable? At the bottom line, it's a choice. "Vulnerable" is an excuse.
@@frequentlycynical642 Americans need an excuse not to feel guilty about being a drug addicts society and the social disaster they are going through.
@@frequentlycynical642 You’ve clearly never lived near real poverty before, because this is a moronic take. Your lack of empathy for people just like you is embarrassing and disgraceful
That’s like blaming the Chinese for using opium back in the day.
Absurdly ignorant and cruel.
@@frequentlycynical642 No it isn't, and neither is ignorance. You're denying well established science on how the human brain works whenit comes to susbtance abuse and addiction. Just because some people choose to do it voluntarily and then become addicted doesn't mean there aren't people who are actually vulnerable and being taken advantage of.
0:50 "things would have to go really bad on a global basis"... Loading.
I'm getting something similar
It's at 98% globally.
And today the news was about Carfentanyl, which is a fentanyl variant that is 100X more powerful than regular fentanyl.
Yeah, unfortunately the fentanyls are an entire family with related structures and drastically varrying potencies.
100x more powerful? Must be a rare variant (or hoping at least)
@@dylanbuchanan6511nope, just as easy to make. Easier to transport.
And impossible to take "safely"
Buddy, shit is old news. 10 years ago Carfentanyl was new. Nowadays you can get designer opioids that are 1000x more potent than fentanyl. (No one really uses those tho. Fentanyl is cheaper & plenty powerful for most cases). Fentanyl is NOT, however, potent enough to kill a person who ingests 2 grains of sand worth. Not even close. There are fentanyl derivatives that are powerful enough to require special handling. Plain old Fentanyl isn’t dangerous b/c it’s super potent. It’s dangerous…see my reply to this comment. I’ll copy paste
Fentanyl isn’t nearly as potent as you suggest. A few grains of sand worth isn’t enough to kill anyone. It’s not harmless, but so long as you’re not using it IV, overdosing requires one to ingest an amount that is considerably larger than it’s possible to ingest accidentally. Now, that non-iv OD threshold is low enough that ppl without an opiate tolerance can & do unintentionally OD after consuming an otherwise relatively safe quantity of some other drug that was laced/ cut with fentanyl. These non-iv ODs are rare enough to make up an only a relative handful of the ODs related to fentanyl. They get the vast majority of the press, however, because they play into the fears of parents while confirming misplaced beliefs that lead ppl to see fentanyl as something more akin to history’s most potent & terrifying chemical weapons than what it actually is: an easily produced synthetic opioid w/ a short half-life & mid to high potency, which has been safely administered to millions of patients a day, every day, for nearly 30 years. The ease of manufacture & relative ease of overdose (less from some insanely high potency, more due to the OD threshold differing from most comparable street drugs which tend to be slower acting & longer lasting & therefore require a dosage pattern dissimilar to the equivalent dosage pattern for fentanyl. Furthermore, the fast acting short lasting nature of fentanyl can lead ppl to ingest heroine that is cut with it more frequently than they would otherwise as the short sharp high from the fentanyl leads them to believe that the reason their high keeps quickly fading is an inadequately small dose of pure heroine. In short, it’s dangerous, but not because it’s potent enough to be a Soviet bio weapon) make fentanyl a legitimate concern. Its potency is more often than not overblown & little more than click bait or a red herring.
Man hours equation is an interesting concept. Great way of explaining why it’s so cheap.
I was thinking the exact same thing. That was by far the highlight of the video for me. It perfectly summarizes the economic comparisons between fentanyl and cocaine. It’s things like this that I like the most about Peter, despite his tendency to wander into topics where he’s not an expert.
we can define the price of anything by the cost of labour inputs, albeit skill level affects labour cost
@@SignalCorps1 he’s a sharp guy. I found out about him from some meathead with a podcast named Joe.
@@vinnyvinson haha, I heard that guy now has a few followers now. I think Joe might have introduced Peter to me as well. I can’t remember.
@ most of his followers are bot friends….i mean bought. lol
It’s killing people but it’s also destroying more lives.
Thank you..very informative..finally
a focus on what's killing the vulnerable ..real life suffering of the families these death leave behind..
Where was this concern when the big problem was crack? I've never heard anyone refer to a crackhead as "vulnerable" and express sympathy for them.
stop with the ..
The impact of this drugs and others have touch every family in the US. A relative under its influenced has either died or caused harm to another person.
Not mine, thankfully.
@@davidbryant2450 Nope, not mine either .Aside from chasing some ever escaping high not sure why knowing the odds of OD due to quality control issues are out there that anyone would take the risk of consuming that drug.. incidental tainted supplies of other (safer) drugs not withstanding.
Peter talks about cocaine while the camera shoots up his nose.
I've yet to hear one cogent argument for keeping these drugs illegal. Somehow we already went through this with alcohol prohibition in the 1930s, realized it was a disaster and reversed it, but have been expecting different results from virtually every other recreational intoxicant since.
Prohibition created the worlds first criminal millionaires. The current drug policy has created the world first criminal trillionaires, with enough silver to spread around everywhere there is any hint of a sane drug policy that would put an end to a profit level that the laws create. Now with bitcoin it is hard to see how our drug laws will not eventually lead to more and worse of the same.
Despite the many obvious failures of Prohibition, it must be noted that rates if alcoholism and deaths due to cirrhosis did significantly decrease during that time.
Here's the cogent arguments you've heard before, but still willfully ignore...
Seattle.
Portland, OR
San Francisco.
All of these left-wing loony bins tried to decriminalize all drugs and it did was... increase the population of addicted and homeless, as predicted by "crazy right wingers!".
Liberals and liebertarians will never learn.
@@speleotrog How can any stats on that be reliable? Everything was underground. People in masses were drinking moonshine that was adulterated with the wrong kind of alcohol that poisoned people's liver at unprecedented rates and most of them were not going to go to the hospital because they were wrapped up in an illegal scheme. It's the same thing today. When someone overdoses on some opioid it's usually because they don't know how strong it is or what it's cut with, a problem that would be solved if they could get dose-specific samples from a name brand at a store that didn't want to be sued for mislabeling.
The places that legalized marijuana are dirtier places now.
Persecuting drugs creates an incentive structure that favors hard chemical drugs over softer plant based drugs, as you need lower dosages (=> harder to proof in drug tests), less volume to smuggle, less smells, no large fields that need to stay undetected for months on end. Also, with chemical drugs you can modify the molecule to evade laws or at least the drug test.
The war on drugs has given us harder drugs and will continue to do so. "Harder drugs" are even worse than "more drugs.
It is time to rethink.
Things have soared onwards and upwards in Canada since their changes 😂
Well put, realistic view.
The worst thing it gives us is poor dose control, which I suspect kills the majority of addicts (or at least hastens it). If they could buy a box of preloaded needles at CVS, made by a FDA regulated pharma company, then at least OD ing would have to be a conscious choice and not "oops I didn't know what the dealer cut this with".
@@tristan7216 do you really want big governance mugging the taxpayer to being your d supplier? Didn’t the methadone experiments show people would just sell it to then buy the street version again? So what if it would be a measured dose. Any dose has the potential to switch you off. (cant type the k or d word lest this gets hidden)
Thanks for this very informative video.
The LD50 for cocaine is 95.1 mg/kg. For a 90kg man, the average US male, that would be a fraction over 8.5 grams. Meaning over 50% of them would survive 8.5 grams. 1.2g is way off and well within the limits of what I would have called a good night in the 90's.
A party animal that is good at math has entered the chat! Your’s is my favorite comment so far today!
Lies and damn statistics.
If the average American male is 90kg, that’s a problem. It’s not a drug problem but it is a cardio vascular problem and a diabetes problem. 90kg is heavy. At 80kg and 174 cm I am considered “heavy”.
@@navinadv That’s a gut to me because you’re right. I’m in my late 50s and overweight. I gotta change things now.
That is usually figured with a 150lb body weight. In contrast the LD50 for caffeine is .5 grams. Think about it. It's all in the dosage that turns a useful substance into a poison. In areas where coca leaves are chewed for a lift there is no cocaine problem yet it is widely used.
We had the son of one of our friends (who had served in the US Military in Afghanistan), who died from a fentanyl overdose. It was even worse for him because he also had (apparently) taken an animal tranquilizer that causes terrible infections of the facia that destroyed one of his legs.
Nobody knows what's in stuff you take from the street. Not even the people who mix it, and make it look like a "legitimate" dose. In Vietnam, soldiers taking stuff there had the insecticide Paraquat mixed in it.
As a retired physician, I still believe that illicit drug use is a "personal decision." I acknowledge that later on the doses "destroy" the brain. But the first few doses are YOUR OWN CHOICE.
I cannot understand why some young people take those first few doses. It takes only a small amount of Fentanyl to cause respiratory depression and death. Even if the stuff comes in from Mexico (and there is no doubt that it does), unless you willingly take it, it will not kill you.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Retired surgeon
Previous owner of Medicare Certified Surgical Center
The 2 people I knew who died from fent thought they were taking MDMA. They were casual users who did that sort of thing maybe once or twice a year.
Most people who die from fentanyl literally snorted some coke or something like that and it has been cross contaminated more often by accident as people selling different drugs aren’t operating a lab environment.
I agree that it’s your choice to take whatever you want and in the U.K. heroin was available on prescription until the USA told the world that was not going to happen in 1971. Guess what? 2000 addicts until then who mostly held down some kind of job, but 1975 when it had been made illegal in the “war on drugs” there were 200,000 addicts. When something is completely illegal you have zero control over it, at least prescription to an addict keep them in safe limits and stops the black market as the prescription is often free or super cheap
You can find out exactly what's in it with GCMS or a new system that uses near infrared.That 2nd device is in several injection centers in NYC (I don't take sides on that) but I remember,and there's articles archived on the fact that in February of '92,3 decades ago it was all over the Bronx, several people died,more would except for the fact the cops were going up and down the streets using loudspeakers not to use it.Was this a beta test.Ive lost more people I know in the last 3years than from '67 to '21😢
Because life sucks, or it's cool, or you're young and still have that drive to explore the world.
Curiosity killed the cat 🥲
People knew that methanol, wood alcohol, caused blindness and death. Never stopped the hardcore during Prohibition.
Three things I miss about the early 2000's: No smart phones, no social media, and the drugs, while usually not pure, at least weren't cut with fentanyl.
The housing costs were a little nicer too.
In last 3 years, I have know 2 people who died from fentanyl. One of which, even her husband didn't know she was using. Left behind a 1 year old baby girl. Truly tragic.
It’s hard to believe that someone’s spouse could be completely unaware of fentanyl use. There’s so many things that coincide with drug use with deteriorating lifestyle habits, how could someone be unaware?
Not trying to be disrespectful or minimize the loss…. There just has to be more to the story here.
@@oe542 Yeah, there is always another side to the story. From what I understand, she went to a concert on the east coast with a friend about 2 weeks before she died and had some sort of fight with her. She ended up getting a ride back with some other people she met at the concert. After the concert she went to her mothers, which is actually where she died. My guess is the people she got a ride back with were using and that's where she got the drugs. Even a few days before she died, the story seemed very strange to me. I might have something to say about my wife traveling across the country with strangers she met at a concert but all I know is it had a terrible outcome.
I try to stick to 0.98 grams myself Peter. Safety first.
This man drugs.
A troll with a sense of humor. Not.
@@lastalive7403 the punch line is chasing you but you're too fast.
*Hallelujah!!! I'm the favorite, $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and the church.*
Oh really? Tell us more! Always interested in hearing stories of successes.
This is what Esther A Berg does, she has changed my life. After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son's (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.
I know Esther A Berg, and I have also had success...
Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Esther A Berg
Wow, that's inspiring. How can I contact Esther A Berg?
Why do so many people want to blow their minds? Boredom, exuberance, despair, self-destruction? I don't understand it.
Were all the other substances that already existed not enough?
Addiction is a disease of the mind. Funny how you don’t look down on cancer patients, but you do look down on addicts. Some people get hooked, some don’t. The only people to blame are the manufacturers. No product, no addiction.
@@maynardlikethecandy5347 , you're right, people don't look down on cancer patients like we do on addicts. Addicts CHOSE to consume their disease. The same we look down on some idiot who chose to play Russian roulette. Fun and exciting til it's not.
Just because they exist doesn’t mean people have access to them genius. Opiates are different from other kinds of drugs. The last thing they do is “blow your mind” they numb your pain and senses and make the misery of life feel warm and comfortable
@maynardlikethecandy5347 Holding addicts blameless like cancer patients is asinine. Cancer patients have no choice in whether or not they have cancer, but addicts make choices that put them where they are. They are not victims with no say in the matter *initially*, they only become that after they make the wrong choice!
@@maynardlikethecandy5347 The state has tried long enough to keep substances away from people. In vain! Where there is a need, there is a supplier to meet that need. But I'm more interested in why so many people want to take these substances. What is the point?
Ive had two surgeries where fentanyl was used as part of my anestesia and i was thankful to have it. I was able to walk out and recover quickly.
Created by health Canada. And yeah, I hear it’s decent like that
This is about street drugs and the abuse of drugs not the medical application
Not worried about the US..he means the nation state, as a system doesn't have anything to worry about.
The folks who get left behind, are not in the equation here
Everyone looks over their shoulder at the hot new girl: "Record" 70k/yr Fenty deaths, while...
Ignoring their GF: 178k/yr alcohol deaths.
yes, Alcohol is the biggie, always has been.
Wrong comparison. Fenty deaths mainly take young naive zoomers who take it thinking it's Percocet. Cirrhosis maainly takes hardened alcoholics who offer nothing of value to society
True, alcohol wrecks a lot of lives outright and deals more subtle harm to many more, and the world would be a better place if getting drunk were not considered completely normal. On the other hand, a majority of the population enjoy alcohol responsively. Which cannot be said for fentanyl, I suppose.
@@richardmetzler7909 How can you enjoy alcohol responsively when we now know that even one small drink once in a while is toxic to every cell in you body. Alcohol is a plague and all in all a shit drug. People would be better off growing poppies in their backyard and harvesting the pods to make tea, because natural opium is one of the least harmful drugs, which people can use for decades without problems while maintaining a job.
@@richardmetzler7909there is absolutely no responsable way to ingest alcohol, and that is part of the problem, people thinking there is. People this days still think getting a glass of wine is healthy which has been proven wrong (there was one affection in which it could help, but taking the proper treatment was way WAY better with no downside effects)
Something tells me the fentanyl crisis isn't an accident.
You’re correct.
Just like Chinese anchors dragging over data lines in European waters is no accident, the fentanyl crisis in the US is no accident.
They are both forms of malicious Chinese hybrid warfare with intent to harm.
The West needs to treat China like the enemy they are. Time to wake up to that reality.
I have a suspicion China does this on purpose to cause chaos
Sackler greed spiced with China modern day opium war...
Well, the Sackler family and a messed up health care system. No need for conspiracy mysticism.
You mean chinese payback for the Opium wars?
Absolutely the best. One of your best, Peter.
I have a garage! Thanks to Peter I’m now in the business!! on a serious note, the amount of accidental overdose from people who think they’re grabbing one thing but hit with that and die is outrageous many celebrities children and people in my neighbourhood grabbing a pill of this and they get fentanyl and die. Very sad all drugs should be assumed to be contaminated
You don't say! Buying a pill manufactured by Mexican school dropouts and sold to us from a scruffy dude with tattoos and piercings on the street at night might be contaminated? That is quite an assumption, there.
I make it a policy to never purchase my medicines on street corners.
@ we’re not talking about medicine on this topic. Try to keep up
Hope those being deported don't decide to dump it in the food chain before they leave the packing houses...
Just in the name of thoroughness: Annual alcohol mortality: upwards of 200,000/year; Annual nicotine mortality: upwards of 500,000/year. Both are legal, as is Fentanyl (but only for actual medical use).
In Vancouver, BC, we have people walking around bent over 160 degrees at their waist starring backwards through their own legs like human triangles and an army of advocates insisting that part of their rights and pursuit of happiness is to maintain that lifestyle. This problem will plague the western world until progressives change their tune. A lot of them honestly compare this stuff to going out for a beer.
The reason why they're doing that is because the fentanyl is so strong it's literally trying to kill them and their body is shutting down. What they consider getting high is actually close to death and their body is literally in a state of dying. Believe me I know I was on heroin for 20 years and first saw fentanyl in 2013 and Peter is a little late to the show but better late than never.
My niece just died of a fentanyl overdose in Austin last summer. She was young and beautiful, and a shining light to so many people, and she died before she was 30.
Decriminalise drugs, doctors percription, chemist shop delivery, 50% reduction in crime and homeless people, no marketing. And kindly ask China to end the optimum ( P ) war, simple way to end the drug trade
you would have to ask CIA to end it , they are the biggest drug dealers
Root cause of the Oxycodine Opiod crisis is that Oxycodine has a 8-hour halflife but is FDA regulated for a 12-hour doctor prescription. The irony is that this is done to alleviate the moral panic about opiate attiction, but the practical end result is a society of patients in chronic opiate withdrawal whilst doctors are only regulated to increase the dosage but not change the schedule, thus these patients resort to black market opiates such as Fentanyl. Recommendation is to have the FDA reinvestigate Oxycodine scheduling guidelines for 8 hour prescription dosage and allow patients increased supply to properly meet their pain needs,
This is ten years too late.🧐
Yes, the Obama disease really went rampant in the last 16 years
It was probably on his Patreon 10 years ago.
clear and concise as per usual, thank you very much for the breakdown.
Is it just me or did fentanyl really only become an issue once the rich kids started dropping? ODs have been a problem for decades but the moment folks starts screwing with the high society drugs we gotta issue. Just an observation
When has that not been true?
Hello from Colorado! I started being interested in geopolitics after reading "The Politics of Heroin CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade" by A.W. McCoy. The opioid crisis certainly set up our nation for the next crisis of Fentanyl and meth. Being able to access Narcan without a prescription here in Colorado was an important public health decision, but I still feel like I am shoveling snow ❄️ out of my driveway using a teaspoon. Thank you for starting the conversation on the drug crisis . I suspect that China is not really interested in preventing the precursors from being shipped to Mexico and the USA after the whole Opium Wars thing with Great Britain and western powers. Kind of ironic or karmic!?
If your govt is the drug dealer and you expect China to wipe your ass? When do you all start taking responsibility for your own action?
There’s usually a five year cycle on dangerous drugs by the process you’ve described. Kids learn from their older siblings when the older siblings start dying the kids learn quick.
...... That sounds like your anecdotal experience. Fentanyl has been a plague for over a decade now.
The fentanyl deaths have going on longer than 5 years, primarily because it is vastly more pervasive than a recreational drug. Tha't's why Pete is worried about it.
you're thinking of the past, maybe the 70s, or 80s, but kids don't have siblings anymore
@ good point
@@paulhenry8174 couldn't be more inaccurate. fentanyl has been a plague for over a decade.
They have actually been cracking down hard on fentanyl from Mexico including a huge bust in Mexico recently. It has been harder to find the quality has gone down thankfully many people have actually quit doing it because the quality is so bad. I feed the Homeless in Denver and drug addiction is the number one problem of the people I feed.
It is coming in from India now.
Scary stuff. Not in my neck of the woods but even innocent folks could get a spiked drink or something.
One factor is that doctors are cracking down on legal pain meds to where people are left in great pain to 'avoid addiction'. I had to tell a friend of mine, who has medical problems, 'if you use street drugs you will die. If Prince couldn't manage his pain meds, what chance do you have?'
Who is it that's forcing Americans to get themselves high on this "fentanyl"?
The economic powers that increasingly keep the other "feel good" purchases like homes and cars out of reach.
Despair
A lot of people got hooked on painkillers in the early 2000’s with OxyContin. It created demand and requires higher doses to get the same high, so up the ladder they go along with their “friends”, who get hooked instantly.
Same thing making them eat donuts and potato chips, plus lack of better substitutes.
Chinese mafias are the worse because they are the ones who produce fentanyl, south America mafias with they usual business, Russian and chinese mafias that want to destroy the West, specially the US... Destroy from within, specially the new generations that are the future... Say no to drugs and yes to your countrie should be an publicity sketch... Chinese did always this, remember ópio??!
"Cocaine's bad, don't do more than a gram," you don't get this kind of insight from geopolitical strategists without a ponytail. This is why I keep coming back.
The problem with fentanyl is that it is widely used in anesthesia, legally of course
I never realized just how terrible fentanyl was until I had it administered to me in a clinical environment. Being wide awake while large needles are shoved all the way through to my pleural cavity, unable to feel a thing, is terrifying.
The US seems to have many more deaths from fentanyl per 100,000 people than other western nations like Canada, UK, Australia etc. I wonder if proximity to Mexico and established drug infrastructure is the reason or it is social structures/issues within the US.
It’s both.
American society has surprisingly little for keeping its teenage boys from avoiding trouble.
We have a lot of fatherless households, mainly through divorce.
Teenagers have few of the privileges of adulthood, (not permitted to sign contracts, can’t vote, can’t rent an apartment), but many of the responsibilities (they can be tried as an adult for many crimes).
It’s difficult being an American teenager.
This is more of a roll on from the opioid crisis, and the improved product. I am a little surprised that domestic "industry" has not stepped it up but probably are getting out organized (euphemism for murder) by established cartels.
Care and treatment of addicts as well as effective prevention has not been a US strong suit, neither has proving a safely net. (My personal opinion on a big cause is crushing poverty and consuming media that says, what is success looks like and basically - you look at your life and don't see that happening. )
(again, my opinion and i am extremely lucky that this very real crisis has not directly impacted anyone close to me.)
@@SonnyBubbaI would completely agree that dissolution of the American family unit is partially to blame for our national problem. Yet, most Western democracies have similar divorce rates and they don't have nearly the drug problem we have.
Ultimately, this is a societal issue and a cultural issue, yet having strong male figure in the household,
I believe would make a huge difference.
In the effort to limit the power of the top 20% of men, society has disenfranchised the rest of the 80% also. Maybe not treating men as they are disposable in the family structure would do a huge help for the drug problem.
You think?
It’s that and a most likely a foreign great power pushing it through.
Thank you for the explanations; they are very helpful.
➕➕ well done 💙💛
Fascinating little peek into your thinking. It's wild to hear you say you don't worry about Russia and China.
He is like Gordon Chang who told us China was going to crash in 2001
Recently the dude was on Fox News flogging his latest China book for 2024 😂😂😂😂😂
You seem like a good guy, Peter. Let’s go for a hike if you’re ever around Banff 🇨🇦
Synthetics are messed up, bad for organic bio- human, whats the point selling something will kill your clients ....I hate it when dealers sell or lace this stuff to kids, non-users
Very good talk. Something to worry about.
Hey Zeihan.... When can we expect PETER ZEIHAN merchandise to be available??
I'd like to order the
"Cocaine Is Bad, But Don't Do More A Gram" Zeihan T-Shirt for my cokehead friend for Christmas!!🤣
He's got a T-shirt that says 'Wrong A Lot' if you're interested.
Thank you Peter. Excellent overview and information about this curse.
Peter really has a US blindspot.
Yep he assured us Biden would be reelected
@@georgepratt3721
Nobody could have predicted that Biden would voluntarily drop out of the race. Or that the Democrats would turn their convention into a Kamala love fest.
Peter’s prediction was that if Biden had died before the convention, the democrats would have an opportunity for an honest debate. But if Biden had died after the convention, they’d be stuck with unpopular Kamala.
We may never know what back room deals were struck to force Biden out and keep all the contenders from challenging Kamala. But it defied all predictions.
PZ rockin it up ❄️:)
Four years late on fentanyl Peter, but welcome aboard. And wonder of wonders the senate today took up the cause of RFK and have started to question the major food companies on why diabetes and obsesity are at ridiculous points.
Great summary
But it kills the customer base.
*IDK if comparing an organic stimulant, to a fully-synthetic opioid is the proper simile.*
Peter. Oh my. You mentioned that fentanyl deaths in the USA dropped a bit. Alas, you completely missed the reason: heavy fentanyl users die off, shrinking the pool of heavy fentanyl users. There may be as many users as ever.
We Canadians are way ahead of you. We have factory grade production in British Columbia. Get with the program, Pete.
He's basically given us a how to manual on how to get into the business here. No wonder his Patreon subscribers are so eager to get these videos early lol
Hey would you like to start a profitable business?
4:26... lol
@@nephilimninjaofnibiru2907 He should have called this video "With one week of work you can make a few million dollars"
I came to the comments just to see if anyone else heard that dog-whistle. If this is really a problem Peter is worried about, it feels like he just made it much worse by providing many of his listeners with a roadmap for essentially “how three guys with no education can make a million bucks in a month-and three guys with degrees and skills could make 6-8X.”
So Mark Nelson....You in?
I missed out the bit about the camper van 🚐
Im disappointed on this topic.
Ive done some studying on this and ur not talking about the real problem.
China is paying people and companys a bonus for shipping or selling fentayl products to the u.s or if its gonna make it there, this is china at war with the u.s and the western world and is a f u from the opium wars back in the day.
If china stopped telling people theyll give them bonuses for shipping this stuff it would make this issue much smaller.
Thank you🌸
I often think it’s China using hybrid warfare and actively damaging U.S. society . But I could be wrong. The impact is two Vietnam war’s every years in casualties. The economic cost / damage is significant .
You're not wrong.
And Trump knows this
You’re not wrong. China is doing this
China had first hand experience of being a victim of this during the Opium Wars. They now have all the knowledge to inflict such methods on their enemies
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia yeah. Im aware
HowHow long till the Sacklers get the Brian Thompson treatment?
As opposed to the Sacklers' opioid epidemic?
Good Zeihan video
Reshoring fentanyl production: Yes I'm sure that's the objective of the Mexico tariff.
Your assertion that fentanyl production could easily move from Mexico to the U.S. is doubtful. Mexico does not have the insane tech surveillance that U.S. law enforcement has. In Mexico somebody has to snitch on a drug dealer to get on police radar. In the U.S. an algorithm picks up communications suggesting somebody is a drug dealer and a tip is fed down to local law enforcement for targeted stops, search warrants etc.
The suppliers are only serving a market. Will Eric Clapton write a song about it?
you owe me a cup of coffee, your comment made me spit mine out all over my keyboard laughing, and no, Eric Clapton will probably not write a sing about it
What do you think those rubber people are doing when they are bent at the waste looking at their feet, frozen that way for minutes? They are writing lyrics on the sidewalk. Don't disturb the genius.
I hope not. That song sucked!
The number of songs about fetty is already in the 100’s.
What's the difference between a baby and a bag of cocaine? Clapton wouldn't let a bag of coke fall out of a window
Oh great, something to look forward to! 😮
Peter, I live in a country that has the solution for drug addictions of all types. Fentanyl addicts and everyone else who is addicted to a drug or substance can be handled in a number of ways. In your country, billions of dollars are spent on law enforcement, cops on the beat suffer terrible facial gunshot wounds every day from small-time dealers shooting them in the face to get away from being arrested. This terrible scene can be taken care of with the addicts having a place to go in every town and city where drug addicts hang out and get a free dose of their favorite drug without law enforcement involved. Drugs are for sick people; the cops should not be involved in what is clearly a medical problem. In our country, free drugs are given to these 'sick' people by trained medical staff and clean syringes as well. It makes no sense to try to go after the suppliers and street dealers, what governments have to do is accept that people use dangerous drugs, but that they, the government, helps these people get their fix and as time goes on they can try other drugs that are less addictive, but first and foremost, give addicts the drugs they need to make it through the day and it would probably save 100 people a day from getting mugged or worse by drug addicts who need a fix.
This is the way
The libertarian solution.
Purpose of a lot of these programs us to stabilise people whose addiction can then be treated.
Im glad you are addressing this, because I saw a story about fentanyl "cook" operations, and it literally is hundreds, nay thousands of 3-5 man or (Jabronis lol) ops, making batches, and they make a lotta cash for little work.
Narco epidemic in the USA is similar to the surge of alcohol consumption in the USSR before its collapse
Pete 🙇🏻♀️ Zeiny by name, zany by nature ❤
“Ja-bonies”
Someone needs to help him pronounce jabroni.
To be fair it isn't used much anymore, I first heard it in "It's Always Sunny" but yeah he needs to add the R
7:09 “Don’t know what to cheer for there” 😂😂
So he is worried about fentanyl, but supported Kamala's open border policies. The logic of academic liberals is amazing.
Part of the benefit of a *UNIVERSAL* 25%+ tariff on all imports is that this will finally incentivize our government to pay attention to *everything* that crosses the border. Anti-smuggling enforcement will curb the fentanyl war being waged on Americans.
You can thank the Republican Party for Fentanyl. Republican politicians pushed through Oxycontin through the FDA approval process... and reignited the opioid epidemic. Once the death toll started to reach historic heights, The federal Government cracked down on Oxycontin production and distribution. However, the opioid demand was still high. This is when Fentanyl took Oxycontin's place.
Heroin took oxycontin's place and it was on both sides of the aisle not just the Republicans, and believe me I'm anti both sides of government. And was addicted to heroin because of oxycontin thank you Purdue pharma. Imagine being prescribed 75 mg a day of oxycontin for horrible chronic pain for 2 years because you need to get 8 surgeries in a 2-year period because of genetics that you were born with what that would do to you as a 21 year old. The guy who killed the United healthcare CEO that was me for 7 years I wanted to un alive the doctor that got me hooked on oxycontin. I was a firefighter and been in the department for 3 years had a career going and a great life all lost everything lost because of oxycontin. And yeah it was doctors and politicians and executives and CEOs on all sides doing that.
“Coke is bad,but don’t do more than a Gram.” Perfect Monday morning advice. Thanks Peter
street drugs, alcohol, food, social media, excessive exercise, all coping strategies for trauma, treat the trauma and the addiction will lose its overall strength
the trauma is hopelessness and despair. noone wants to face the drivers of this.
What a load of garbage.
I OD on that stuff and was in a 11 day coma. It’s so scary.
Can you give us some cliff notes on what’s going on in Syria? Love to hear your take on it.
Totally, I live in San Francisco and see the impact of this everyday. It's not good.
It's not just the deaths from fentynol, the associated rise in homelessness and blight also tear at our social fabric.
Always good to add some perspective. The percent of Americans dying of an overdose is .035 % per year. Not an epidemic. Not a crisis. 46,000 , Americans die from falls each year. That is about half the deaths from overdoses.
0.035% per year still sounds like a lot.
Because it's per year, and humans live more than one year.
Thank you. Not a crisis