Benoit Roberge : Walk the Line - the fifth estate

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2016
  • The astonishing story of former Montreal police investigator Benoit Roberge, once known for putting bikers behind bars, but now accused of selling police information to the Hells Angels - and insight from other officers who have walked that thin line between cop and criminal. A joint investigation by Radio-Canada's Enquête and the fifth estate.
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  • @Jakal-pw8yq
    @Jakal-pw8yq 3 роки тому +77

    I've been a biker my entire life, I'm in my sixties now and ride purely for pleasure. I lived in Oakland California in the 1960s and became a member of the Gypsy Jokers. From what I saw while I was in that club, it was mostly about riding and running speed throughout the Oakland and San Francisco area. Speed was our coffee and we used to use it and ride 4 hours on end. I never saw any of the hardcore crimes, but when one of the sergeants was tasked with killing a rival biker and was bragging about it, I had had enough. I moved out of the area and left no forwarding address, and left it at that. The sergeant was eventually and charged with murder. Then the charges were changed to justifiable homicide and he was set free. I don't know about anybody else, but I immediately knew that somebody on the Oakland homicide unit was in the pocket of the Joker's. It didn't surprise me at all because I knew that there were cops on the payroll of the Joker's for years.

    • @pobunjenika7228
      @pobunjenika7228 2 роки тому +4

      Thanks for sharing your experience of being a part of the Gypsy Jokers & leaving (good move). I lived in Copenhagen Denmark from 1994-2002. During that time there was a brutal, deadly biker war between the Hell's Angels & the Bandidos, very similar to the violence portrayed in this documentary. Bikers being shot in broad daylight on the streets of Denmark, the Bandidos firing a shoulder held rocket into the Hell's Angels Copenhagen city centre club house. It was all about territory. Eventually the H.A & the Bandidos agreed to carve up the nationwide territory & everything returned to business as usual. There's never been a documentary made about the Danish biker wars which lasted several years. Most people outside of Denmark don't even know about it. I moved to South East Asia after leaving Denmark & spent the next several years travelling & chilling out before eventually settling down in Portugal. Good times 🙂

    • @omahabred9466
      @omahabred9466 2 роки тому +1

      @@pobunjenika7228 wow, I would never have associated Denmark with biker gangs had you not narrated this story.

    • @andrewsmith7115
      @andrewsmith7115 Рік тому +3

      @@pobunjenika7228 There is one very good documentary on the Scandinavian Biker war by A&E but it’s hard to find.

    • @Iswhatitisssss
      @Iswhatitisssss Рік тому

      @@pobunjenika7228 if you don’t mind me asking, what is it you do for a living - which allows you to settle in such places ?

    • @TheEsjie
      @TheEsjie Рік тому +1

      @@pobunjenika7228 there’s a documentary on UA-cam now about the Nordic/ European biker war, just search it up

  • @darkknight1340
    @darkknight1340 3 роки тому +15

    He walked out on the most corrupt gang on the planet,and joined the Hells Angels.

  • @calbrush6654
    @calbrush6654 3 роки тому +42

    “The line between good and evil runs through every human heart”

    • @fuckyoujewlube5555
      @fuckyoujewlube5555 3 роки тому +1

      there is no good. just evil and more evil.
      if you think there's good - you live a delusion.

    • @kendall3833
      @kendall3833 2 роки тому +1

      Thin line between saved and unsaved peace.

    • @annalisavajda252
      @annalisavajda252 8 місяців тому

      Cliche. Not everyone is a dirty cop endangering lives refusing to do their jobs properly.

  • @Marcfj
    @Marcfj 4 роки тому +10

    Bottom-line, the Hells Angels have never trampled on my Constitutional Rights, whereas, the police have violated my Fourth Amendment right and thrown me in jail for exercising my Second Amendment right. So, who do you think I regard as my real enemy?

  • @bobbiusshadow6985
    @bobbiusshadow6985 3 роки тому +16

    Where there's greed, there's corruption.

    • @Will21st
      @Will21st 2 роки тому +3

      our system caters to both.

    • @missnellaful
      @missnellaful 8 місяців тому +3

      Particularly in 1995, when this was filmed and narrated….considering…all facts.😊

  • @BucketHeadianHagg
    @BucketHeadianHagg 4 роки тому +13

    I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!! Thank you for all the great uploads!

  • @jenn6194
    @jenn6194 5 років тому +13

    Whether you’re a corrupt cop or a gang member, it’s all about power, greed and a lack of conscience. No concept of common decency or thought for the people who just want a safe environment for their loved ones. Thugs and criminals, although, given the choice, I’d rather be imprisoned as a gang member than a crooked cop.

  • @hoyboys1000
    @hoyboys1000 3 роки тому +14

    Excellent program. Thanks for posting and keep up the great work!

  • @andrewburleson9314
    @andrewburleson9314 6 років тому +382

    I love that they have the expert therapist, who handled the hostage negotiations at the Branch Davidian Compound in Waco. Maybe you keep that boondoggle off your resume.

    • @copperworksplumbing7643
      @copperworksplumbing7643 6 років тому +14

      Let's see u try that job

    • @mikemurphy5898
      @mikemurphy5898 5 років тому +1

      LOL!

    • @Yokes27
      @Yokes27 5 років тому +8

      he puts that on there because he had to choose between Waco and "MOVE" in Philly

    • @chrishellams1755
      @chrishellams1755 5 років тому

      andrew burleson sa ci turned out realy well

    • @tiarnan76
      @tiarnan76 4 роки тому +1

      @Roger Clemons bit more to it than that - april 19th is a major day in the satanic calendar...look at all the other events that have happened on april 19th....theres no coincidence

  • @hartesbrt4735
    @hartesbrt4735 3 роки тому +7

    There's no hard moral decision about refusing a free cup of coffee when the coffee looks like it's laced with drain unplogger

  • @avamasquerade
    @avamasquerade 5 років тому +261

    I wonder if they'll ever admit that there's a possibility that these cops weren't plants in the hell's angels, but were hell's angels plants in the police force. Probably not though cause how embarrassing would that be?

    • @MtnTow
      @MtnTow 5 років тому +11

      There was papers here and there describing plans to do that but nothing concrete that ive ever heard of.

    • @robgav6754
      @robgav6754 5 років тому +14

      LMAO... That never even crossed my mind Ava Masquerade! Now that is certainly thinking outside of the box, and definitely a very reasonable possibility!! Ever thought of being a Lawyer?

    • @somethingaboutbeauty8245
      @somethingaboutbeauty8245 4 роки тому

      @@robgav6754 agreed.

    • @brandonduhon3136
      @brandonduhon3136 4 роки тому +3

      Think about what your saying ...
      Hell's Angel's Guys ... wouldn't inheritably be good candidates

    • @bctad4562
      @bctad4562 4 роки тому +4

      !!! The Departed

  • @Seth-ix2db
    @Seth-ix2db 11 місяців тому +10

    A lot of cops are as bad as anybody else. A friend in Detroit said he left the police force because he was more scared of the cops than anything on the street. If only bike clubs could all just live and let live.

  • @FukaiKokoro
    @FukaiKokoro 7 років тому +126

    That guy has zero right to talk about illegal or immoral. Wako situation was both illegal and immoral.

    • @bodhi8297
      @bodhi8297 3 роки тому +4

      Way more horrific than anything bikers do. They don’t burn kids alive

  • @keithofarrell3080
    @keithofarrell3080 3 роки тому +6

    I always look forward to get a notification from the fifth estate, Guaranteed a good & interesting little docu. 👍👍

  • @amberbranks4209
    @amberbranks4209 5 років тому +42

    Hey Fifth Estate! I really appreciate all the hard work on this program! It's really good. Instead of lots of hype, there's strait-up good storytelling! I usually just leave a thing going and listen while I work...but this I end up watching all of it!👍

  • @DatruthBtoldy-do6bl
    @DatruthBtoldy-do6bl 6 років тому +439

    The Waco Texas standoff isn’t something this “negotiator should be bragging about!

    • @mrveritas700
      @mrveritas700 5 років тому +61

      POINT BLANK MURDER OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

    • @alexisgordon2759
      @alexisgordon2759 5 років тому +24

      I agree

    • @SENCE302
      @SENCE302 5 років тому +43

      Agreed wholeheartedly dude basically refused a search warrant and they burned that place to the ground out of control federal government

    • @blazed1945
      @blazed1945 5 років тому +28

      Straight slaughter

    • @russhartman4927
      @russhartman4927 5 років тому +39

      That and Ruby Ridge were the opening acts of the Clinton crime cabal 93. He and Janet Reno should still be in jail today.
      That is how corrupt our system is top to bottom.

  • @aeight8797
    @aeight8797 4 роки тому +51

    "Get the Hell's out of here." He pledged his heart to the gang on his wedding day. Red flag. One of many.

  • @kaigottwald2195
    @kaigottwald2195 4 роки тому +65

    Sometimes the difference between a good man and a bad one is just that: The good man is tempted, but resists; the bad man is tempted and yields. Temptation is in both of them. The place of darkness in all our hearts.

    • @dougrobbins5367
      @dougrobbins5367 4 роки тому

      Thanks for pointing out the obvious

    • @kabeyz
      @kabeyz 4 роки тому +3

      But sometimes the bad man repents pays his debt and turns his life around. Only God knows the nature of one's heart or soul. One mistake as grave as it appears to be doesn't define the nature of one's heart or soul. That's how I see it.
      I think that the bad people are those who never apologize or don't have any remorse for their wrongdoings.

    • @dougrobbins5367
      @dougrobbins5367 4 роки тому +1

      @@kabeyz Good points, but what was it that led you to a belief in God?
      If God exists, he/she/it has made sure that we can't see that existence, and have no reason to believe it. So why do you?

    • @rockb4pres2012
      @rockb4pres2012 4 роки тому +2

      @@dougrobbins5367 because humans always need the good and bad to look to. Ever since we arrived on this planet we look to thank or blame something else for our actions. We should look to ourselves and act accordingly.

    • @Reba24u
      @Reba24u 8 місяців тому

      @@dougrobbins5367 Because the devil is making his presence known. So much evil in our world

  • @tbone132tjf
    @tbone132tjf 4 роки тому +23

    the cop is now out on parole he only got 7 years

    • @aldadda6742
      @aldadda6742 3 роки тому +2

      It's Canada what do you expect lmao

  • @bobgillis1137
    @bobgillis1137 4 роки тому +47

    "they are not the economic elite, but rather the criminal elite" Same thing.
    Nobody can kill more than governments acting on behalf of business interests.

    • @TotallyNoCat
      @TotallyNoCat 4 роки тому

      Preach.

    • @worstknightmayor4439
      @worstknightmayor4439 4 роки тому

      Word

    • @marztar
      @marztar 4 роки тому +1

      Business Elites kill too.
      Difference is Elites buy shooters.
      1%ers buy the shooter a beer after such business.
      That's why Gov fears MC clubs.
      Brotherhood and Bloodthirst are powerful in combo.
      History of man is testament.

  • @TheOutlaw256
    @TheOutlaw256 7 років тому +225

    I was a patch holder for awhile in a so-called outlaw club. there are good and bad in every club doesn't matter if its a 1% club or a Christian club. at Daytona bike week a few yrs ago a club member of a Christian club flying his colors asked me right out if I needed any weed. he was on the sidewalk sellin his weed with a Christian symbol on his back and his club name. but then we watched 2 different 1%ers going at it with fists so don't come down on all 1% club members. ive seen them pay the bills and house off of widows that had no money. seen them buy them cars etc. and these are 60 -70 yr old ladies.ive been pulled over and told how much it would cost me to ride away without a ticket or arrest. and ive had cops give me a left to a gas station or down the road to help me get going again. so there is good and bad in every thing law enforcement or outlaw clubs.

    • @miklosLegrady
      @miklosLegrady 7 років тому +9

      Except when you sit on gunpowder there's the risk it can go off. As a teen I sometimes hung with bikers but they all got in trouble so I figured....

    • @undyne9667
      @undyne9667 7 років тому +5

      TheOutlaw256 well said. Very true.

    • @trishaharrison6506
      @trishaharrison6506 7 років тому

      Very true!

    • @bakowsky1
      @bakowsky1 6 років тому +25

      U nailed it!!! Iam a born again christian ,my father ran with the Vagabonds before he got married and i have one friend a real friend who is in the H/A m/c and another in Bacchus m/c ....also iam smoking weed right now! Ive got a fair size rap sheet ive used every drug known to mankind! like the done alot of bad things, but i TRULY am a nice guy!! Ive just had hard luck,and i fight every single day too keep my head from slipping under water and the ONLY THING that is keeping me from being a bad guy is THE HOLY SPIRIT....ya u heard me....the man upstairs, GOD! He will only let u go soooooo far.....Then as a loving father he pulls u back in and u had better listen to what he is saying because infact he does know what is better for you and thats all he wants !!!!

    • @jameslee7535
      @jameslee7535 6 років тому +9

      there's a lot of religious hypocrites around !

  • @itsme2365
    @itsme2365 4 роки тому +28

    It must take massive balls of steel to be an undercover dude.

    • @stevenattanasso2003
      @stevenattanasso2003 4 роки тому

      @Fluke Ego ....

    • @johngirgenti7651
      @johngirgenti7651 4 роки тому

      MisGuided Me
      .

    • @cassandraharris442
      @cassandraharris442 3 роки тому +2

      Oh, I read a book written by an ATF agent that went undercover for The Mongols. Pretty intense! Those guys are more insane than The Hell's Angels.

  • @myron6305
    @myron6305 3 роки тому +21

    Dude pledges his life and love for the biker gang at his own wedding. I bet his wife was real freaking thrilled over that one.

    • @ykthemayor
      @ykthemayor 3 роки тому +2

      I found that hilarious too lmaoooo

    • @JustMe-nf1mf
      @JustMe-nf1mf 3 роки тому +7

      Sad thing is she proudly wore her "property of" patch & knew exactly what she was signing up for ugh

    • @k.jlmfharrington3437
      @k.jlmfharrington3437 2 роки тому +1

      I know right 😂🙄 Other than losing a child, which I have lost two kids both 2011 4 months apart 😇💔😭😇💔😭 I couldn't think of anything worse than being involved in that life!!

  • @dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554
    @dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554 3 роки тому +8

    The negotiator guy thinks he is good, yet every action they cited that he did, was arguably pure evil. But don't accept a coffee from a bad guy, right?

  • @willatwood
    @willatwood 4 роки тому +8

    Lmao at the therapist! I do t think I would hire any person bragging about being on the front line at Waco in negotiations. They had no control and it even became one of the worst incidents in US history. Not something to brag about or even want on your resume and then have it brought up in a documentary that states your an expert in the negotiating field. I say your credibility goes out the window with that one.

  • @alleyoop4465
    @alleyoop4465 5 років тому +66

    I love how the underlying assumption running through the whole piece from beginning to end is that the cops were always good cops even when they were being corrupt. They were corrupted by the evil bikers. They are portrayed as victims who's carriers were ruined because they ran into these terrible bikers.

    • @MtnTow
      @MtnTow 5 років тому +6

      Whichever side you find yourself on, this comment wins! Lol

    • @A6Legit
      @A6Legit 3 роки тому +1

      Cops are always the good guys till there not I guess 😆

    • @JustMe-nf1mf
      @JustMe-nf1mf 3 роки тому +3

      That wasn't the theme at all ffs. They were only presenting what all cops are tempted with & bad ones will turn 🙄

    • @alleyoop4465
      @alleyoop4465 3 роки тому +3

      @@JustMe-nf1mf it's the thesis of the piece. He says as much less than 2 mins in.

    • @JustMe-nf1mf
      @JustMe-nf1mf 3 роки тому +1

      @@alleyoop4465 No lol he makes the point that cops, like all human beings, are not born bad!

  • @bradyhoflin3414
    @bradyhoflin3414 3 роки тому +34

    When I managed a liquor store I had a whole bunch of fully patched members as regulars, honest to god my nicest customers I ever had🤷‍♂️

    • @fuckyoujewlube5555
      @fuckyoujewlube5555 3 роки тому +2

      HA's rank amongst some of the most decent people I've ever met.
      UNlike cops and lawyers and doctors and employers and friends and family and etc etc etc.

    • @JustMe-nf1mf
      @JustMe-nf1mf 3 роки тому +4

      Of course ffs. Only a moron would cause trouble in an establishment they frequent when they are part of a crime organization 🙄

  • @dragonmaster9360
    @dragonmaster9360 Рік тому +3

    Difference between a Cop and a Biker: You can't buy a Biker.

  • @2015071
    @2015071 7 років тому +143

    Corrupt Montreal Cops? That's... surprising.......

    • @rehnumajamil2751
      @rehnumajamil2751 7 років тому +3

      At 2015071 as if have you been to Mexico

    • @davegrabowski6123
      @davegrabowski6123 6 років тому +1

      Rehnuma Jamil ? Doesn't make sense beatch

    • @winkie3331
      @winkie3331 4 роки тому +6

      @@davegrabowski6123 they thought OP said Monterrey, capital of the Mexican state Nuevo Leon.
      Also off topic but Canada has countless crime issues. I suppose because it's next to the U.S. that it gets buried, but it's ridiculous to pretend there's not a bunch of missing aboriginal women in Canada

    • @renemcintyre3653
      @renemcintyre3653 4 роки тому +1

      THEY THINK THEY ARE SUCH HONEST LITTLE CREATURES.

    • @hennaduvenhage7855
      @hennaduvenhage7855 3 роки тому

      @@davegrabowski6123 íò

  • @GOGOSLIFE
    @GOGOSLIFE 4 роки тому +37

    There was a biker gang member that lived a couple of doors down from me when I was a teenager(in the '70's). I babysat for them all the time. There was one time they had a party and someone backed into my mothers car when they left. She went to him and he made sure that the person who did it, fixed it. He respected his neighbors the way anyone else would.

    • @ape72patch1
      @ape72patch1 4 роки тому +11

      Truly amazing ! I spent 2 years being threatened by them with attempting to extort money from me. Such wonderful classy people.

    • @hutch1111111
      @hutch1111111 4 роки тому +8

      They usually do that so the problem is snuffed out asafp. They dont want cops getting involved at any level.

    • @traceykays433
      @traceykays433 4 роки тому

      So really let’s blame all the worlds short comings on these people. Really. I could say so much about this but I’m not gonna.

    • @gregblack4581
      @gregblack4581 3 роки тому +3

      One on one not so tough. 4 of them on 1 guy is the norm . We would just leave when they came into our bar . Never ever not once did one come in himself .

    • @JustMe-nf1mf
      @JustMe-nf1mf 3 роки тому

      @@hutch1111111 🎯

  • @laurencedemeo5318
    @laurencedemeo5318 3 роки тому +5

    NOT ENOUGH ADS

  • @preciousgems4036
    @preciousgems4036 5 років тому +5

    DISRESPECT IS THE LEAST OF THE SICKNESS

  • @MrAns786
    @MrAns786 4 роки тому +6

    Here in the UK we don't have a big problem with bikers. Most bikers are nice people to get on with, the ones who like motorbikes and enjoy riding are the real bikers as far as I'm concerned. Hells Angels have a bad reputation and are known to be involved in illegal activities/crime especially in countries like USA/Canada where there is a big gang culture.

  • @jakemcquade3157
    @jakemcquade3157 6 років тому +146

    As a law abiding citizen, i am far more uneasy with the police behind me than a few bikers, club members.

    • @Teeteecloud
      @Teeteecloud 5 років тому +6

      Absolutely !! Agree 101%

    • @noend1472
      @noend1472 5 років тому +7

      Correct MC Gangs don't attack citizens usually. Police does it ALOT more often.

    • @joegriego3091
      @joegriego3091 5 років тому +3

      Normal response. You break the law in front of a biker club, they dont care. Do it front of law enforcement, you could be stopped, fined, jailed or simply given a warning. Authority can be intimidating.

    • @jenn6194
      @jenn6194 5 років тому +6

      What the heck!! Glad I don’t live near you That’s not to say there aren’t any corrupt police officers, but they more often than not come to a bad end. We had a crooked high official cop blown to smithereens by a bikie club back in the seventies, but nobody lamented that too much. He was a murderer and a thug.

    • @mikemurphy5898
      @mikemurphy5898 5 років тому +1

      @@jenn6194 in for 70s? Still hanging onto that one huh?

  • @lilspikes81
    @lilspikes81 3 роки тому +2

    I came to watch commercials, noticed there was a documentary interrupting them.

  • @htomerif
    @htomerif 4 роки тому +53

    I like the part where they take a 20 minute story and stretch it out for 45 minutes.

    • @htomerif
      @htomerif 4 роки тому

      @XBOXRULES You're better off getting your news from reddit or wikipedia. The new york times is 170ish years old and they've lost almost all of their credibility in a decade.

    • @rrb8864
      @rrb8864 4 роки тому

      Then I fall asleep

    • @Tom_Bee_
      @Tom_Bee_ 4 роки тому +1

      @XBOXRULES so scientifically illiterate it makes my eyes bleed to read your comments. When was the last time NYC dug mass graves to accommodate seasonal flu or RTA victims? You're comparing apples and oranges.

    • @Tom_Bee_
      @Tom_Bee_ 4 роки тому

      @XBOXRULES lol all the things you cited are entirely routine and predictable. They do not overwhelm a system designed specifically to cope with such ordinary eventualities. Again, I ask you, when was the last time a road traffic accident caused mass graves to be utilised in NYC? I assume the reason you won't answer this question is bc to consider it at all, in any way, will severely challenge your dogmatic and ill-informed position?

    • @Tom_Bee_
      @Tom_Bee_ 4 роки тому +1

      @XBOXRULES I don't news media for my world view. I siens like a boss though. Call me patronising names all you like, btw. It won't make me any less adult or reasonably well informed and it certainly won't make you any more factually correct.

  • @jefffyfe9892
    @jefffyfe9892 4 роки тому +6

    This cop did bad things for a long time, yet this show never really condemns him. It rationalizes his conduct. It excuses his behaviour by returning to the it's so tough to be a cop argument. The justice system furthers the rationalization: let him serve a couple of years in minimum security. Even the cop himself rationalizes his behaviour at his parole hearing. He says he worked with these cases too long, creating a moral grey area, as if to say, it's tough being a cop, y'know. There is no such thing as hard hitting journalism in Canada, when the preferred members of society do bad things.

  • @dalep2349
    @dalep2349 6 років тому +50

    Dr. Webster is incorrect in asserting that 'bad police officers are not born, they are made'.....I have studied the socio economic backgrounds of law enforcement and bikers, and the shared, sub culture valued traits, characteristics, and motives. Bikers and cops are a lot closer than one thinks....

    • @michaelkammert1350
      @michaelkammert1350 6 років тому +5

      While it may be true that the opportunity for corruption exists for both MC's as well as Police Officers, I for one can attest that the greatest percentage of police officers are law abiding, family value oriented individuals. I spent 32 years before retiring from LAPD and I, as well as those I worked with would NEVER cover for anyone breaking the law, especially those who have sworn to "protect and serve". Most of us joined the Department because we really did want to make a difference and serve ALL citizens.

    • @DatruthBtoldy-do6bl
      @DatruthBtoldy-do6bl 6 років тому +4

      Mike- please LA has the most corrupt cops in the US .....fact !

    • @michaelkammert1350
      @michaelkammert1350 6 років тому +3

      And you get your statistics from where? The media? I doubt you have any facts that support your statement which makes it even more wrong. Are there bad apples? Just as surely as there are in any job. Funny how the bad things are the only thing that ever gets sensationalized and not the great and brave acts done each and every day by the 99% of officers that are good.

    • @bobbiusshadow6985
      @bobbiusshadow6985 6 років тому +2

      unfortunately, the bad apples always tarnish the whole rest

    • @paultremblay4836
      @paultremblay4836 6 років тому +3

      dale p
      Bad cops become bad When they get arrested, otherwise they are all good cops. In a new world without privacy, impossible to give 100% private tip information, it's an invitation for corruptions across the board

  • @starmanskye
    @starmanskye 5 років тому +13

    @ 6:48, the Canadian policeman says, 'Our job is to protect people'. Well, that's not technically true. Their public 'duty' by law is to uphold statutes, write infraction traffic citations and apprehend law-breakers. Whatever protection they provide is incidental, by arresting those who disturb the peace by commission of statute crime, which in some few limited cases means apprehending those who make violent threats.
    But of course, since the neoliberal laize fair/reactionary era of Reagan/Thatcher and the War on Drugs, police have increasingly been corrupted by the enormous profits of drugs and collusion with organized crime gangs, selling info and influence, engaging in sideline extortion and running their own protection rackets.

  • @k.jlmfharrington3437
    @k.jlmfharrington3437 2 роки тому +5

    That poor INNOCENT little boy! 😠😭💙💔

  • @2jzfox...
    @2jzfox... 3 роки тому +5

    Cop was protecting the club. Why he told on him is beyond me.

  • @hatzikuN
    @hatzikuN 4 роки тому +52

    His wedding vows was directed at the club and not the wife. That's pretty funny.

    • @kenj4711
      @kenj4711 4 роки тому +5

      He thought he was a ladies man. But by his own words he didn't deserve that beautiful lady.

    • @luv2umumsue
      @luv2umumsue 4 роки тому +2

      At that point, she was so far in it didn't matter what she thought or felt.

    • @sda9995
      @sda9995 4 роки тому +2

      Caz he's a narcissistic she just a supply

    • @onefeather2
      @onefeather2 4 роки тому

      They have to.

    • @marleneg7794
      @marleneg7794 3 роки тому

      I know. I saw that.

  • @Fingermanant1234
    @Fingermanant1234 7 років тому +278

    Sorry but I'm not gonna take "morality" lessons from a cop at Waco.

    • @charleycox7326
      @charleycox7326 6 років тому +15

      Fingermanant1234 Glad I'm not the only one! I almost instantly wrote him off as soon as they said that he was working Waco!!!

    • @shawndouglass2939
      @shawndouglass2939 6 років тому +14

      Fingermanant1234 You got that right, morality didn't exist among the officers at Waco.

    • @fiddlermike
      @fiddlermike 6 років тому +15

      Which "Waco", the one where cops murdered bikers and railroaded bystanders with RICO charges, or the one where cops and soldiers murdered and incinerated women and children?

    • @adabsurdumblack
      @adabsurdumblack 6 років тому +9

      bisquitnspanky Cops engage in all of those behaviors too. So surely you want to remove them from society right?

    • @stephaneperron9852
      @stephaneperron9852 6 років тому +7

      Agreed; any law enforcement agent who refers to people a "bad guys" is part of the problem

  • @BIGNICKELL1
    @BIGNICKELL1 2 роки тому +3

    Don't the Montreal Police have a reputation for corruption? This was made over 6 years ago but look at the last 18 months of the police all across Canada and their heavy-handedness during the pandemic.

  • @karmas4172
    @karmas4172 5 років тому +44

    Everyone knows the cops work with the mob on Montreal.. The head of the rock machine was a COP LOL

    • @jessed3648
      @jessed3648 4 роки тому +2

      wtf, it was founded by Salvatore Cazetta, his crew, they form a Alliance whit the gang de l'ouest Montréal & few indépendant drug dealers

    • @marknieuwejaar1075
      @marknieuwejaar1075 4 роки тому +1

      @@jessed3648 snitch...

    • @jessed3648
      @jessed3648 4 роки тому +1

      @@marknieuwejaar1075 wtf, its well knowne a lot of "snitch" have expose those facts in court a long time ago. Your a punk, ti'fif

    • @marknieuwejaar1075
      @marknieuwejaar1075 4 роки тому

      @@jessed3648 punk with armed friends...

    • @jessed3648
      @jessed3648 4 роки тому +2

      @@marknieuwejaar1075 Bravo, im afraid of your armed friends, where u from anyway

  • @bodhi8297
    @bodhi8297 3 роки тому +5

    They flipped Benoit to snitch on the cops lmao I love it

  • @syyenergy7
    @syyenergy7 Рік тому +3

    The 'good' cop says only the "law" matters not "morality". There's the underlying problem and why so many people don't like cops.

  • @agentcube5741
    @agentcube5741 7 років тому +53

    A short documentary about two rival gangs fighting each other

    • @rehnumajamil2751
      @rehnumajamil2751 7 років тому

      T White I was waiting for the main person

    • @honeybsweetnectar1713
      @honeybsweetnectar1713 6 років тому +1

      T White 😂😂😂😂😂😂 truth

    • @dundem187
      @dundem187 5 років тому +1

      White on white violence. Where was WLM then?

  • @peterlightning9235
    @peterlightning9235 7 років тому +44

    They never considered that the outlaw bikers might be good at their jobs as well. So it's not really surprising that they got Roberge to supply them with information.

    • @dundem187
      @dundem187 5 років тому +1

      Peter Lightning Well, most of them had 50 plus years to perfect their criminal careers. Most people grow out of the gangsta stage by their mid 20s. White boys don't feel like being gangstas until they hit their 40s and 50s 😂

    • @nowhining5461
      @nowhining5461 5 років тому

      Most assuredly..

    • @ryangrantbeecher2734
      @ryangrantbeecher2734 4 роки тому

      The bikers know everything.

    • @elizabethevenson6110
      @elizabethevenson6110 3 роки тому

      @Devon R B down here we'd call it "knowing ALLL the *chisme*", but i don't know the quebecois equivalent of "gossip/info".

  • @gaetana.cincire5821
    @gaetana.cincire5821 4 роки тому +5

    The line between good and bad...crosses the heart...So true ! Dixit: Alexander Soljenitsin .

  • @Blue-xb2xr
    @Blue-xb2xr 4 роки тому +6

    It has always amazed me how citizens do not demand change with the policing models. The culture of any organization will corrupt the best intended. Both organizations have an us vs them mentality. The members know a diff model is required.

  • @Del-Canada
    @Del-Canada 7 років тому +9

    I like how it says Walk the Line will return and then it returns.

  • @canvan8818
    @canvan8818 7 років тому +31

    Very good reportage. Well done Fifth Estate!

  • @phillipburke2709
    @phillipburke2709 5 років тому +3

    How to learn to think and act like a criminal,put yourself in a desperate situation and see how long it takes until your a ''criminal''.What a joke, it s just people .

  • @audreejamie6751
    @audreejamie6751 5 років тому +9

    I worked with an RCMP officer that had infiltrated the Hells. I watched videos of insane amounts of drugs he had recorded. The videos were crazy asf.

  • @amberbranks4209
    @amberbranks4209 5 років тому +5

    Being a cop means you gotta judge everyone and hold yourself so high up you can never, ever let loose or down, down, down you go!
    No thanks.
    I'll just be me

  • @MichaelDavis-zf6nt
    @MichaelDavis-zf6nt 3 роки тому +6

    Retired just before being arrested. Which I'm sure that means he gets to keep his lifetime pension. Almost like he knew it was coming.

    • @A6Legit
      @A6Legit 3 роки тому

      Or they let him retire first knowing he was going down.

  • @johnleach7879
    @johnleach7879 5 років тому +5

    Superb quality in writing (Kelly) , videos and production (many guys). Has this been offered to U.S. law enforcement? TV networks? There's a need for it.

  • @kathrynludrick4821
    @kathrynludrick4821 4 роки тому +1

    Illegal but not immoral is a justification to cross a line, whether one is a police officer or not.

  • @RickGrimes007
    @RickGrimes007 6 років тому +1

    Great show👍😎

  • @user-gu3ie
    @user-gu3ie 3 роки тому +25

    Not gonna lie, French is pretty much the least intimidating language ever created 😂

  • @gailjarvis2592
    @gailjarvis2592 7 років тому +4

    He spent only 27 months in prison - that's all - then he was released.

  • @marvinmcintosh8201
    @marvinmcintosh8201 6 років тому +96

    Money money money everybody loves money that's the problem where u find lots of money you will fine corruption

    • @candeffect
      @candeffect 6 років тому +2

      The problem is the love of money. Money is nothing more than symbols of value to exchange for value.
      99.9% of lots of money was earned by good people.

    • @bobbiusshadow6985
      @bobbiusshadow6985 6 років тому +1

      greed is eternal

    • @paultremblay4836
      @paultremblay4836 6 років тому

      marvin mcintosh but cops do lots of money and good retirement

    • @tomschmitt6911
      @tomschmitt6911 5 років тому

      *find

    • @tomschmitt6911
      @tomschmitt6911 5 років тому

      find

  • @timelesskoontah
    @timelesskoontah 4 роки тому +67

    Personally if a gangster kills another and no innocent person gets hurt then don't waste tax money to solve it...just let it be ..

    • @o0GrayMatters0o
      @o0GrayMatters0o 4 роки тому +3

      that makes logical sense to me, but that's not a very lucrative business model.

    • @rayray8687
      @rayray8687 4 роки тому +10

      Grey Matters: It’s considered a self-perpetuating social service. The one loser kills the other loser, and then that guy’s brother kills the other guy, who’s best friend in turn kills him and so on. If the police would stop arresting these goofs we’d soon be rid of the lot through reverse Darwinism - elimination of the stupidest.

    • @o0GrayMatters0o
      @o0GrayMatters0o 4 роки тому +1

      @@rayray8687: Yeah, but then how do we justify the absurd spending and increased budget proposal's? It's not like the average consumer will fall for the whole domestic terror threat thing will they? Gotta find a way to allocate these digits evenly so that the average schlupp won't know we're robbin' 'em blind. There's gotta be a boogie man. Boogie men are great for business.

    • @rayray8687
      @rayray8687 4 роки тому

      Grey Matters: Yeah, I know. I was just trying to save some tax money, but you can’t fight Wall Street.

    • @dwelch1051
      @dwelch1051 4 роки тому +1

      How do you know if a gangster type did to start ?

  • @sticksnstones4357
    @sticksnstones4357 4 роки тому +8

    Looked like a cool documentary but refuse to watch something on UA-cam that has 40 midroll ads!

    • @superboy982
      @superboy982 3 роки тому +3

      If you skip the video to the end and replay it, you got no ads! Remember it, it will save you allot of time :)

  • @FirstLast-vl1uy
    @FirstLast-vl1uy 3 роки тому +6

    Nice doc. I thought I've seen every outlaw biker documentary there was. Guess there's always one ya miss

  • @adrianjohn.
    @adrianjohn. 4 роки тому +1

    the beginning with a coffee is a psychology
    unto itself extending into a butterfly effect

  • @SticksAandstonesBozo
    @SticksAandstonesBozo 8 місяців тому

    This is the most slept on UA-cam channel by Americans.

  • @antg007
    @antg007 7 років тому +32

    I love that protest by the people. That example needs to be copied.

  • @southernbreeze3278
    @southernbreeze3278 5 років тому +14

    The guy served barely over 2 years total of an eight year sentence and was paroled.
    Corruption - right to the top

    • @jeffleblanc8850
      @jeffleblanc8850 5 років тому +1

      Ya but if it was a biker the fuckers would throw away the key ther is so many dirty cops not funny especially in Quebec I trust no cop

  • @sentio1382
    @sentio1382 4 роки тому +2

    Not one informant works one way. Every cop / agent that works with informants give them as well info.

  • @PunkFuckUp
    @PunkFuckUp 4 роки тому +2

    I don't know what that hostage interrogator cop is talking about --there is definitely a difference between whats legal and whats moral. To be fair though that guy does look like he would arrest a starving person for stealing bread, a little kid for jaywalking or a teenager with a roach.

  • @derekweinert7943
    @derekweinert7943 6 років тому +21

    Fifth estate is the best in my opinion. No frills

  • @mickeyodom9122
    @mickeyodom9122 3 роки тому +9

    Wow at his wedding instead of pledging allegiance to his wife he basically read his vals to the gang lol poor girl

  • @journeyer13
    @journeyer13 5 років тому

    Any updates on this story?

  • @trevorbourgeois3483
    @trevorbourgeois3483 3 роки тому +2

    The Moral Of This Story Is Never Throw Someone Under The Bus. That You Can Get Thrown Under The Same Bus.😎

  • @hanniballectormd5569
    @hanniballectormd5569 5 років тому +8

    "Nobody on your police force saw this coming?" What a stupid question smh….

  • @schlooonginator1227
    @schlooonginator1227 7 років тому +19

    I have lost a lot of respect for police.
    There is no grey area for police eh?
    Then why is it that the police here do what is deemed unlawful in America? In fact they spend millions to do it. That is the complete fabrication of criminal acts perpetraed by themselves to ensnare whomever they target.
    Just recently I read of these convictions involving a cocaine import which ultimately snagged 2 HA members and another. However, there was no actual crime other than that which was created by the RCMP who posed as Colombian cartel men.
    So, while police botch, mishandle and claim a lack of manpower for real cases involving peoples lives such as missing persons and other serious incidents, they waste millions in resources to make up a crime then entrap(this is what makes these illegal in the US) whomever they have targetted. All perfectly legal. They get to create a cocaine importation conspiracy, target civilians then bust said civilians but ,obviously, nothing happens tto them, they are "law enforcement".
    Just like what they did to those 2 welfare clients to get a terrorism conviction. Thankfully they happened to get a judge who saw through the cops BS but how many others have been targeted and convicted based on crimes that never existed?
    The police can and do simply manufacture any type of crime they want in order to arrest people and I think this is insane in any free and democratic society. This is an example of a police state.

    • @rehnumajamil2751
      @rehnumajamil2751 7 років тому

      schlooonginator I never finished reading what you wrote how long did take

    • @shawndouglass2939
      @shawndouglass2939 6 років тому +1

      Rehnuma Jamil It was good you should have read it .

    • @willthechill3992
      @willthechill3992 5 років тому

      Thats the government you're describing, not cops.

  • @luv2umumsue
    @luv2umumsue 4 роки тому +2

    Corruption is only one reason cops cross the line. Anyone can be blackmailed or threatened into that. What would we do if family and friends were at risk or secrets twisted to ruin us? Not everyone on the organized crime payroll wants to be there.

  • @shawnerickstad129
    @shawnerickstad129 3 роки тому +23

    The wako standoff was a complete disaster so I wouldn’t brag about that on my resume lol

  • @ginahaley3866
    @ginahaley3866 3 роки тому +19

    As much as I like watching this channel having 10-12 ad breaks is rediculous! Kinda greedy don't you think?

    • @abird2931
      @abird2931 3 роки тому

      Why don't you use adblock?

    • @aaronellis6870
      @aaronellis6870 3 роки тому

      Gotta make some money somehow 🤷‍♀️

    • @SleepyKev1n
      @SleepyKev1n 3 роки тому +3

      Use adblock or move the slider to the end and hit replay boom no ads

    • @abird2931
      @abird2931 3 роки тому +2

      @@SleepyKev1n I've been finding that doesn't always work with some videos, must be they have caught on!

    • @SleepyKev1n
      @SleepyKev1n 3 роки тому +3

      @@abird2931 it's hit and miss I'm starting to hate UA-cam cause of the double ads at the start

  • @ceejay6882
    @ceejay6882 4 роки тому +15

    French speaking bikers? They must own Harleys that drive in reverse.

    • @pololedodo7981
      @pololedodo7981 3 роки тому +3

      Why dont you go tell them yourself.

    • @yamahale
      @yamahale 3 роки тому +1

      @@pololedodo7981 We all know they are tough, but why do they ride the wimpiest bikes?

    • @chais1111
      @chais1111 3 роки тому +2

      French Canadian Hell's Angels bikers mean business, look up Mom Boucher

    • @pololedodo7981
      @pololedodo7981 3 роки тому +2

      @BKK they have a place called 'the bunker' in Sorel, Quebec. Good luck.

    • @JustMe-nf1mf
      @JustMe-nf1mf 3 роки тому

      @BKK I suggest you look up why even Sonny Barger left the Canadian Hell's alone lol.

  • @burgersbeansandchips
    @burgersbeansandchips 6 років тому +2

    Anyone know if Stenhouse is writing or has published a book? He sounds like he's a great and intelligent story teller, a book of his undercover work could be amazing.

  • @str8cndian
    @str8cndian 7 років тому +91

    in ontario they would have suspended him with pay.

    • @rehnumajamil2751
      @rehnumajamil2751 7 років тому +1

      str8cndian really??!!???!??!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!!

    • @MsAmarg
      @MsAmarg 7 років тому +1

      str8cndian he is being sarcastic

    • @ve5618
      @ve5618 6 років тому +3

      nova scotia would have arrested bens mother and charged her with assaulting a cop and resisting arrest. and conspiracy and made her take anger management

    • @maryspencer791
      @maryspencer791 6 років тому +1

      no he's not

    • @drgreen852
      @drgreen852 6 років тому +5

      Youre right. A hamilton police officer was involved in gang activities and got suspended with pay. He was suspended with over 100k a year.

  • @nodens5593
    @nodens5593 4 роки тому +3

    Things can be Moral and Illegal, just like how Slavery was Legal and Immoral. My wife's a lawyer and we've discussed this concept in law, and while its not the job of the police to interpret the Law they are given discretion for that reason.

  • @daves2552
    @daves2552 5 років тому +17

    Unlike the police,,bike clubs don’t target innocent folks.

    • @somniumisdreaming
      @somniumisdreaming 4 роки тому +6

      Yes they do.

    • @werewally3156
      @werewally3156 4 роки тому +3

      @@somniumisdreaming yes they do

    • @DanReinfoma
      @DanReinfoma 3 роки тому +2

      Dave Sprague you’re an idiot

    • @Dylan-zf5wy
      @Dylan-zf5wy 3 роки тому

      Dave sprague I agree with u man

    • @Dylan-zf5wy
      @Dylan-zf5wy 3 роки тому

      @@somniumisdreaming how do they target innocent people

  • @gofigure5910
    @gofigure5910 6 років тому +10

    The "bad" in this world help provide the "good" their jobs and means for a living. It's a paradox.

  • @biggunna8863
    @biggunna8863 4 роки тому +15

    This is easy. The cop made a deal with someone in hells angel to over throw the leadership so that angel can rise in power then the cop is a star in both worlds and have high private ranks in the gang

  • @kenj4711
    @kenj4711 5 років тому +10

    He was not born corrupt but he became corrupt by some type of lust that was able to trap him.

  • @misfit662145
    @misfit662145 4 роки тому +17

    If drugs where legal, none of this BS would be necessary ..

    • @mukhumor
      @mukhumor 4 роки тому

      Err... they are Child Snatchers for the VIP's. If Canada had snipers none of this would happen.

    • @misfit662145
      @misfit662145 4 роки тому

      bs

  • @jakspratt4465
    @jakspratt4465 6 років тому +29

    I think Roberge was affiliated with bikers before he became a cop.

  • @HabeasJ
    @HabeasJ 3 роки тому +4

    Im not even a minute and a half in, yet I already know the majority of what they're gonna cover in the next 41ish minutes. Thanks CBC!

  • @kenskater8602
    @kenskater8602 6 років тому +8

    now I'm no mathematician but there's a math problem here.... they say the gang was decimated, they say over a hundred where arrested, and also say nearly 30 escaped.... so that means they arrested how many ? if they had been decimated that is one in ten...3 for the 30 that escaped....or if 100 where in fact arrested that would mean 900 escaped.

    • @bobbiusshadow6985
      @bobbiusshadow6985 6 років тому

      lol

    • @klippiesss
      @klippiesss 5 років тому +1

      Ken Skater I know. I dislike the way the media use that word . It's sensationalism not stating fact.

  • @flyinspirals
    @flyinspirals 7 років тому +13

    Okay -- when a robber says 'we clicked right from the start' about a cop -- huge red flag. Because okay -- 'the lure of evil' might befall any cop, or anyone -- but it snags a few easily.

  • @traviseastlick5342
    @traviseastlick5342 4 роки тому +1

    Back then they had a blue line and these days it's a thin blue line, secrecy is a must

  • @AlaskanAndie
    @AlaskanAndie 5 років тому +2

    Not sure where or how far reaching it was, but there was a time when the Hells Angels were trying to create a new reputation, making a real effort to be good citizens, going as far as catching criminals and doing good deeds!?! I wonder what happened?!!?

    • @JustMe-nf1mf
      @JustMe-nf1mf 3 роки тому +1

      Oh they still have propaganda campaigns here in Canada. Clean cut suits & ties driving mercedes etc sometimes, big VERY PUBLIC ride with toys for kids with cancer etc. Obviously just polishing the brand & their cover to anyone who pays attention but far too many people eat it up ugh

  • @daveyboy_
    @daveyboy_ 3 роки тому +16

    Hell's vs R.M meant one thing. Great Blow. 'specially in Verdun. Those were the days

    • @TeeKoon
      @TeeKoon 2 роки тому

      Similar to Hochelaga, not easy to work there but with HA I had no trouble ,,,If cazzetta didn' hide in Ontario from an arrest warant, Mom would he have started the war...RM president had so much contacts and he replaced Rizutto mafia chief as referee and was responsible for the peace to end the war!

  • @kumar2ji
    @kumar2ji 11 місяців тому +4

    People always go to the dark side if the right circumstances exist. Never underestimate temptation and opportunity.

  • @raymondlamirand2597
    @raymondlamirand2597 4 роки тому +2

    Ya know what comes after draining the swamp? Filling it back up with crystal clean water.

  • @acirka
    @acirka 5 років тому +2

    Vraiment intéressant, merci!

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 4 роки тому

      Je voudrais un sandwich au jambon sil vous plait