That child experiment was the best thing I've heard in decades...terrible to tell kids there heathen sinners, sets them up to fail...isn't that kind ..merciful..forgiving...filled with Grace...
I think what Shermer says at about 11:35 gets to the hub of the matter, .. when you are in that religious bubble, the faith you follow makes perfect sense, but once you are able to see things from outside that comfort bubble, you begin to see a whole new perspective and things make a lot more sense.
Opposite for me. Things made a lot more sense to me after being devoured and knocked down my whole life..living in chaos and confusion. God saved my life renewed my mind heart body soul and gave me clarity. Its a matter of experience. Trauma has a way of opening other perspectives and perceptions...how can there not be a creator? Scientists even recognize this ...this is a boxed in closed minded psychology ..there is a spirit in us ..energy is real and soul is real.
Can't the same be said by the bubble science? Anyone who tells you that they have it all figured out is probably full of shit. He doesn't know just like the clergyman doesn't .
@@bwizzle4194 well then you don't understand Science. Science has never claimed to "know everything". Ever heard religion say that they don't know? Science accepts that they don't know YET.
It literally just blows my mind that anyone still believes in religion but I think as the enternet spreads and along with it knowledge people will collectively stop believing in religion as we know it, I don’t deny some sort of god but it’s probably not what we think it is and is certainly not what religion says it is
It almost bugs me people even believe in religion anymore because it just proves to me how hypocritical they are because none of them actually practice what they preach and that they literally live in complete denial because they like it and not because it’s true
Nope. People are sinners. We are not perfect and we recognize this. I have addictions and I am always trying to be a better person and I take Jesus with me on my journey. Its not hypocritical..we are learning growing and changing until the end..hopefully better at the end and ready to meet our maker..asking for forgiveness for our sins is healthy for our peace and well being..forgiving others release negative thoughts and feelings..letting go and giving burden to God ..it is healing. Jesus loves you more than you can imagine
@@gotcha9983 you can do well in God debates but still lose when it comes to defending your religion... But as most of the audience is self-righteous about "their God" they'll agree with you anyway... that's how apologists use Mental gymnastics
Some assorted benefits of being an Atheist are being totally immune to Voo-Doo, Demonic Possession, Witchcraft and Hexes. Other benefits include not be blackmailed by some religious creeps with guilt and fear. :)
I don't think parents who believe such things ever intend on the harm it does to a childs psychological development. It's a psychological disorder that is highly contagious. I don't blame my parents for influencing me because by chance it's given me a deeper insight on human pyschology as well as my own and made mature as a person. I'm still struggling with the side effects of being raised evangelist christian and babtist and Presbyterian. At a young age I was subjected to many different churchs and to 'fellow Christians" different beleifs, some more extreme than others. Being raised by people who have no cognition of human psychology or their own. Being led to beleive in literal boogie man and another one that watches every thing you do. Which I believe are causing symptoms of schizophrenia in young highly imaginative children. Which becomes increasingly difficult the more you are subjected to and are around other people who have these delkusional ideas of reality. That have no cognition of the psycholigical impact it has on them and people they influence. Which is why I say its a contagious condition. I also believe that at one point it was possibly a necessary stage and result of our evolutionary mental development to have this hierarchal sysytem of order and authority over the less knowledgeable or holy and authoritive, survival of the fittest. Now in the age of information and computers with highspeed internet. We don't generally as educated society need religion and a God to instruct our moral mainframe of ideology. I would have to agree with Michael Shermer on every point. Thank you for this lecture, as it has helped me verify my own conceptions of how religion impacts society and our psychology as a species.
Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on UA-cam. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
It makes me sad that people don’t and can’t understand why people believe in religion. It is very obvious why they do and in short it is a way of killing oneself mentally. Shutting down part of the mind that experiences a lot of pain from the absurdity of this world. It helps alleviate so much pain, provides hope when there is nothing (say a child dying from a cancer), and gives a purpose to humanity answer why questions that science can’t answer. Like why are we here.
Muslims do not discount Christianity and Judaism as a way to God. Muslims believe throughout history God has tried to communicate with humans. Muslims hold consciousness is an evolving state and sould are not sstatic so death is just part of the universe's consciousness. “Atheism is without God. It does not assert no God. The atheist does not say that there is no God, but he says 'I know not what you mean by God. I am without the idea of God. The word God to me is a sound conveying no clear or distinct affirmation. I do not deny God, because I cannot deny that of which I have no conception, and the conception of which by its affirmer is so imperfect that he is unable to define it for me.” ― Charles Bradlaugh, The Freethinker's Text-Book: Man: Whence and How? Religion: What and Why?
While I agree with most of his views, I think he articulates his points in a really insulting way.. Like, I'm an athiest myself but I wont claim to know that God doesnt exist with absolute certainty and dismiss all counteropinions like theyre something silly
I'm an agnostic, Deist (neither atheist nor theist)... Not to be confused with being an Agnostic, or the dictionary definition of Deism. It sounds like you're an agnostic, Atheist though, if you understand the differences between gnostic vs agnostic. There are other terms for it as well... Just saying.
In his book, The Believing Brain, Michael Shermer says he's an agnostic because you can't prove that God does or doesn't exist scientifically, but he prefers to be called a skeptic because it gets the point across that he doesn't subscribe to any supernatural explanations.
Because downright stupid ideas and their little obedient followers need to be called out on their sh*t. Should have happened a long time ago. If these nuts can promote their fairy-tales and expect for the world to just treat these as facts, then yes, one is entitled to ridicule them in an insulting way.
UA-cam Jiddu Krishnamurti talks at the united nations . Jiddu said also in an other video : it is good to believe in nothing , no theism no atheism etcetera . Yes unity in impartiality . Religion and non-religion , they are irrelevant . Unity is relevant , seize the day in a healthy way is relevant . Copy that .
He’s right. A natural God that we can see would be what we’re looking for. Wouldn’t it be crazy if God came to dwell in human form with us 2,000 years ago to prove he wasn’t some far off deity who controlled things from the supernatural realm? Oh, maybe that did happen…
has anyone actually read the religious text they hold so dear? I know noone who actually read the original bible and whatever text that is considered to be an english or other local langugage translation is a work of men. From what I understand Arabic langugage has also evolved from the time of original Quran and peope have a hard time understanding it and non Arabic muslims have the same translation issue. From the above there is a very clear issue that men who translate/interpret the text are in positions of supreme auhority over mostly ignorant belivers.
most of these "points" are very basic with no unique insights offered just plain common sense stuff. Very little focus on individual psychology but instead it feels like a political rally against religious institutions.
The other gods are tricksters and demons. God the Father of Jeaus is the one true God. Creator of all things..even the creator of those othe gods. Ok. I think it is foolish to think we can understand anything so profound. We are not meant to understand everything. Be open in mind and heart...this lecture is closed minded and bias. sometimes atheists are angry that God has not open their eyes to the Truth yet. When it happens...there is no doubt. It is a personal relationship between you and God and no one else.
I'ma just go with God if The Lord says beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ..in the Bible...If it's says avoid profane and vain baby ng and opposition's of science falsely so called which some having professed have erred concerning the faith....Or don't be carried away with strange and diverse doctrines...etc....It talks about doctrines and commandments of men....And all kinds of scripture in the Bible that I can name...I'ma just give heed to what my Bible says and says and stay close to and obey the Lord Jesus Christ....Cast down imaginations and every high thing that opposes itself against the knowledge of God....Who changed the truth of God into a lie..Romans 1 part of Romans 1 so I just believe the Lord he isn't lying..
By your reasoning, anyone who reads the Bible emerges a humble individual with a changed heart. Tomás de Torquemada and Heinrich Himmler were Bible readers.
Myself and many others became atheists solely from reading the Bible. I suggest that you read the entire Bible cover to cover with the intent of understanding the intent of the authors.
That child experiment was the best thing I've heard in decades...terrible to tell kids there heathen sinners, sets them up to fail...isn't that kind ..merciful..forgiving...filled with Grace...
I think what Shermer says at about 11:35 gets to the hub of the matter, .. when you are in that religious bubble, the faith you follow makes perfect sense, but once you are able to see things from outside that comfort bubble, you begin to see a whole new perspective and things make a lot more sense.
Opposite for me. Things made a lot more sense to me after being devoured and knocked down my whole life..living in chaos and confusion. God saved my life renewed my mind heart body soul and gave me clarity. Its a matter of experience. Trauma has a way of opening other perspectives and perceptions...how can there not be a creator? Scientists even recognize this ...this is a boxed in closed minded psychology ..there is a spirit in us ..energy is real and soul is real.
Can't the same be said by the bubble science? Anyone who tells you that they have it all figured out is probably full of shit. He doesn't know just like the clergyman doesn't .
@@bwizzle4194 well then you don't understand Science. Science has never claimed to "know everything". Ever heard religion say that they don't know? Science accepts that they don't know YET.
It literally just blows my mind that anyone still believes in religion but I think as the enternet spreads and along with it knowledge people will collectively stop believing in religion as we know it, I don’t deny some sort of god but it’s probably not what we think it is and is certainly not what religion says it is
It almost bugs me people even believe in religion anymore because it just proves to me how hypocritical they are because none of them actually practice what they preach and that they literally live in complete denial because they like it and not because it’s true
Nope. People are sinners. We are not perfect and we recognize this. I have addictions and I am always trying to be a better person and I take Jesus with me on my journey. Its not hypocritical..we are learning growing and changing until the end..hopefully better at the end and ready to meet our maker..asking for forgiveness for our sins is healthy for our peace and well being..forgiving others release negative thoughts and feelings..letting go and giving burden to God ..it is healing. Jesus loves you more than you can imagine
He explains the god myth very well. I like this one.🌟
acts of good must be done out of disire of good without any outside reason.
That high five at the end was a great finale.
I went one God further quite a while back at about the age of 12 or so. I’ve got a really sensitive BS detector.
Shermer knows his shit! Nice arguments and way to expose it.
I'd like to see him in a debate with s Christian. He would get destroyed.
@@gotcha9983 you can do well in God debates but still lose when it comes to defending your religion... But as most of the audience is self-righteous about "their God" they'll agree with you anyway...
that's how apologists use Mental gymnastics
Excellent!
Does the sound keep cutting out or is that just my end?
"There goes half of congress" XD
Mr. Hitchens, have a Hitchslap, courtesy of the Hitch.
Some assorted benefits of being an Atheist are being totally immune to Voo-Doo, Demonic Possession, Witchcraft and Hexes. Other benefits include not be blackmailed by some religious creeps with guilt and fear. :)
I don't think parents who believe such things ever intend on the harm it does to a childs psychological development. It's a psychological disorder that is highly contagious. I don't blame my parents for influencing me because by chance it's given me a deeper insight on human pyschology as well as my own and made mature as a person. I'm still struggling with the side effects of being raised evangelist christian and babtist and Presbyterian. At a young age I was subjected to many different churchs and to
'fellow Christians" different beleifs, some more extreme than others. Being raised by people who have no cognition of human psychology or their own. Being led to beleive in literal boogie man and another one that watches every thing you do. Which I believe are causing symptoms of schizophrenia in young highly imaginative children. Which becomes increasingly difficult the more you are subjected to and are around other people who have these delkusional ideas of reality. That have no cognition of the psycholigical impact it has on them and people they influence. Which is why I say its a contagious condition. I also believe that at one point it was possibly a necessary stage and result of our evolutionary mental development to have this hierarchal sysytem of order and authority over the less knowledgeable or holy and authoritive, survival of the fittest. Now in the age of information and computers with highspeed internet. We don't generally as educated society need religion and a God to instruct our moral mainframe of ideology. I would have to agree with Michael Shermer on every point. Thank you for this lecture, as it has helped me verify my own conceptions of how religion impacts society and our psychology as a species.
DEATH PENALTY FOR ADULTERY - THERE GOES HALF OF CONGRESS LOL
Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years?
The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist.
Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on UA-cam. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
It makes me sad that people don’t and can’t understand why people believe in religion. It is very obvious why they do and in short it is a way of killing oneself mentally. Shutting down part of the mind that experiences a lot of pain from the absurdity of this world.
It helps alleviate so much pain, provides hope when there is nothing (say a child dying from a cancer), and gives a purpose to humanity answer why questions that science can’t answer. Like why are we here.
belief and disbelief are "heretical" utterances in the pursuit of knowledge imo
It's the Jonah Hill "bangs" kid behind him for me.
Muslims do not discount Christianity and Judaism as a way to God. Muslims believe throughout history God has tried to communicate with humans. Muslims hold consciousness is an evolving state and sould are not sstatic so death is just part of the universe's consciousness.
“Atheism is without God. It does not assert no God. The atheist does not say that there is no God, but he says 'I know not what you mean by God. I am without the idea of God. The word God to me is a sound conveying no clear or distinct affirmation. I do not deny God, because I cannot deny that of which I have no conception, and the conception of which by its affirmer is so imperfect that he is unable to define it for me.”
― Charles Bradlaugh, The Freethinker's Text-Book: Man: Whence and How? Religion: What and Why?
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While I agree with most of his views, I think he articulates his points in a really insulting way.. Like, I'm an athiest myself but I wont claim to know that God doesnt exist with absolute certainty and dismiss all counteropinions like theyre something silly
I'm an agnostic, Deist (neither atheist nor theist)... Not to be confused with being an Agnostic, or the dictionary definition of Deism.
It sounds like you're an agnostic, Atheist though, if you understand the differences between gnostic vs agnostic.
There are other terms for it as well...
Just saying.
In his book, The Believing Brain, Michael Shermer says he's an agnostic because you can't prove that God does or doesn't exist scientifically, but he prefers to be called a skeptic because it gets the point across that he doesn't subscribe to any supernatural explanations.
Because downright stupid ideas and their little obedient followers need to be called out on their sh*t. Should have happened a long time ago. If these nuts can promote their fairy-tales and expect for the world to just treat these as facts, then yes, one is entitled to ridicule them in an insulting way.
666 views. Woot!
UA-cam Jiddu Krishnamurti talks at the united nations . Jiddu said also in an other video : it is good to believe in nothing , no theism no atheism etcetera . Yes unity in impartiality . Religion and non-religion , they are irrelevant . Unity is relevant , seize the day in a healthy way is relevant . Copy that .
He’s right. A natural God that we can see would be what we’re looking for. Wouldn’t it be crazy if God came to dwell in human form with us 2,000 years ago to prove he wasn’t some far off deity who controlled things from the supernatural realm? Oh, maybe that did happen…
U can replicate ghosts?
has anyone actually read the religious text they hold so dear?
I know noone who actually read the original bible and whatever text that is considered to be an english or other local langugage translation is a work of men.
From what I understand Arabic langugage has also evolved from the time of original Quran and peope have a hard time understanding it and non Arabic muslims have the same translation issue.
From the above there is a very clear issue that men who translate/interpret the text are in positions of supreme auhority over mostly ignorant belivers.
One of the powers of language is that most simply do the believing, while leaving the understanding to the 'authorities'.
this has echoes of truth but it's ultimately extremely reductionist
idgi, who's Lucy? i know evolution is a thing i just don't get it still
the first upright hominid fossil we have found...a female australopithecus, I think
Lucy is a famous so called missing link fossil of human/ape
Lucy ❤ a creation of God
princess Alice, not princess Ann
there goes half of congress! xD truth
HEBREWS 9; 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment
most of these "points" are very basic with no unique insights offered just plain common sense stuff. Very little focus on individual psychology but instead it feels like a political rally against religious institutions.
The other gods are tricksters and demons. God the Father of Jeaus is the one true God. Creator of all things..even the creator of those othe gods. Ok. I think it is foolish to think we can understand anything so profound. We are not meant to understand everything. Be open in mind and heart...this lecture is closed minded and bias. sometimes atheists are angry that God has not open their eyes to the Truth yet. When it happens...there is no doubt. It is a personal relationship between you and God and no one else.
"Within 1000 years of history there have been 1000 religions and 1000 gods"
What?
Don't discount that God Might be In Us all, and when all is said and done we are all just extensions of awareness of God
Yes. Its the truth. And it is peace.
Sir, I shall pray for you
Oh, take off.
I’ll think for you.
I believe that I cant die.
Accept Juses and move on. Why to question? Use the knowledge and wisdom
+United by MAIDAN You are the perfect unquestioning servant I've been looking for. Now get on your knees.
"why question" and "use knowledge" are two contradicting statements.
Exactly. That is Faith.
@@gregm1733 God loves you. I pray He open your eyes to see and your ears to hear. In Jesus name . Amen
@@JacobCain86 God wants us to question and test everything against the Bible. ❤
I'ma just go with God if The Lord says beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ..in the Bible...If it's says avoid profane and vain baby ng and opposition's of science falsely so called which some having professed have erred concerning the faith....Or don't be carried away with strange and diverse doctrines...etc....It talks about doctrines and commandments of men....And all kinds of scripture in the Bible that I can name...I'ma just give heed to what my Bible says and says and stay close to and obey the Lord Jesus Christ....Cast down imaginations and every high thing that opposes itself against the knowledge of God....Who changed the truth of God into a lie..Romans 1 part of Romans 1 so I just believe the Lord he isn't lying..
Shermer shows such spectacular ignorance on the subject of religion and psychology.
Yes
This man has not read the Bible. He would have a different perspective if he did...also maybe his heart would be changed and humbled ..
By your reasoning, anyone who reads the Bible emerges a humble individual with a changed heart. Tomás de Torquemada and Heinrich Himmler were Bible readers.
Myself and many others became atheists solely from reading the Bible. I suggest that you read the entire Bible cover to cover with the intent of understanding the intent of the authors.
Confirmation Bias, ugh... This is a terrible statement to try to support Atheist beliefs.