If you haven't already, consider subscribing to help me reach 1,000 subs! It would be greatly appreciated! Here are some timestamps to help you navigate the video and skip to certain points: 0:00 Intro 1:00 Pros 1:12 VRAM 1:38 Performance 3:00 Software 4:32 Recording + Streaming 5:01 AMD Sponsored Games 5:36 Smart Access Memory (SAM) 6:04 Frame Generation 6:55 Cons 7:09 Compiling Shaders 8:20 Editing 9:32 Recording Compared To NVIDIA 10:50 Adrenaline Recording 11:22 Upscaling (DLSS, FSR) and Ray Tracing 14:39 New Intel GPUs 15:30 NVIDIA 50 Series + AMD 8000 Series 15:59 Outro
People dont know what they talking about cuz 90% of the People háve nvidia and they are scared from change and dont get mé wrong i was the samé i gót only nvidia gpus before all the way from the gt 720, gtx 1050ti, Rtx 2070super, Rtx 3070 OC and Rtx4070super and yes all was good but 20 series was too expensive and cant do RT the 30 series was again expensive cuz scalpers and shortage and also cant do RT and 40series was fine but also it can do RT ultra but ony with dlss quality and frame gen and all this in 1440p ultra i mean its nôt bad but look at the Indiana Jones max settings at 1440p game tell you need minimum 12gb IF VRAM and you get only 12gb of VRAM and this is nôt good for modern gpu also price is terrible for nvidia at least in europe. Over all nvidia great for aplicationd blender, photoshop, stream, OBS over all good stuff cuz most aplications run great on nvidia but worse on AMD. So there pros and also cons. So with nvidia you get great RT performance and for fire there are gonna bé games that gonna have RT baked into engine so there you will noticed some gains but yeah thats about it cuz even this gpu cant do really RT in native so another pro háve Best stability in profesional aplications and over all every new game will gonna have dlss so yeah. And cons well nvidia is expensive Like way too mutch and give you a lot less VRAM and if you compare Rtx 4070 super and rx 7900gre gre win in raster performance from 10 to 15% on avarage in most games at 1440p and 4k max settings also amd give you mutch better 1%. Lows and well driver stability in insaine on amd gpus i have my amd gpu from april and i dont háve a single issue with driver only issue is that as was mention in video first tíme you play game you can experience lags on amd hardware cuz shaders loading as you play but thats just lest say 5 to 10 min and its just only first tíme or after you upgrade you gpu drivers but over all its great also the adrenalin is by far my most favourite thing after i bough amd gpu its great 100% better than nvidia one and i tested even new nvidia one but still amd just makes really good gpu software, but also there háve to cons as well and yes they are lets start with fsr well fsr2 or fsr 3 is not great only good fsr version is fsr 3.1 this one is great compare to older ones and games that support fsr 3.1 and they are implemented correctly it looks great in fsr native and even quality looks good and only in 1440p i woukd nôt use fsr quality in 1080p cuz that is gonna looks bad and al ll the tíme. There was riecently update for fsr 3.1 in space marine 2 and oh boy is it good yes it is fsr native really fix shimering in that game yes there are still some in perfection but actually i find those in perfection as well on nvidia dlaa in that game as well but both dlaa and fsr native doing great joj i this game and amd frame gen i dont know how they implemented it so good but on my rx 7900gre in 1440p native with frame gen i go around 180fps on avarage but i locked my fps to 144 so i have fluid as possible game play and Like this i have 4 to 5ms of frame tíme just perfect implementation. But yeah you have to make Choice for your self i dit mine and yet i have my Rtx 4070 super i sold all other of mine nvidia gpus but now i my main gpu the rx 7900gre cuz it does what gpu should do no more no less and in perfect world this gpu would bé high end but rn its mid range cuz well games Come out broken unoptimized and over all new releases need fix after Launch sadly so háve 16gb of VRAM savé mé a lot of tíme perhaps in stalker 2 that is great game but suffer from bad otilization and also suffer from UE5.1 stupid low performance but in this game i using at 1440p epic settings around 11.3gb of VRAM and with framgen and fsr native a bit more than that. But i also start to notice the TSR option and in many games this looks great better than dlaa and mutch better tha xess or fsr native and in stalker 2 this looks amazing and it give you even less ms of your fame tíme and your game run mutch better. Rn im using TSR in 3 games with both nvidia and amd gpu and i testing performance and visual looks and well i have to say TSR is less Sharp than TAA but its actually mutch better Choice than TAA cuz repair that bad looking edges or meshes or foliage and make it looks great so far stalker 2 and warthunder both on 1440p max settings show mutch better visual results than dlaa or fsr and Best thing is you can use frame gen with TSR so its win win sutuation in my opinion. And when it Come to RT options the amd 7000 series can do RT quite well but it also need frame gen and fsr implementation just Like Nvidia háve but dont worry you will not gonna use RT even on gpu Like Rtx 4070 super or ti super cuz inpact on your fps is too big and i personally skip RT always cuz raster looks just great and run better as well. But Choice is yours you pay for something you nôt gonna use you gonna bé able to use it or you pay for less features but over all you get gpu with more raw power.
i broke my 2060 recently and had to switch to my brothers old one before i got my rx 6750, he had an old rx 570 and black ops 6 was running better on the 570 than the 2060, now with the 6750 i can run legit any game now with great performance
@@crashdaniel5807 COD is odd the instance of a game engine that performs better on AND Radeon GPUs year after year. So hearing that BO6 was running better in RX 570 doesn’t surprise me. And the RX 6750 is a great GPU. Congrats on the upgrade.
I have made a decision not to buy Nvidia. I have already switched to AMD, I love their 7800XT which I used to play Avatar in 4k - that did pretty well. I currently run a 6900XT Red Devil and this thing is mighty. My kids both run RX 6600 XTs - my wife runs a 5700XT Red Devil in her main PC and we both run RX Vega 56 Nitros in our work PCs. Ive got an RX 6400 in one of our small form factor media PCs, and an RX 6600 in another media PC both pushing 4k video. Every single rig we have is a performer. The last Nvidia card I had was an RTX 3070 and it was falling behind even in COD games due to just 8gb of ram - but for what I paid for it - it should have lasted much longer. The Ray Tracing is not worth it, I never used it aside from one game "Control" - and even when I go to replay it I never go to the settings to turn it on. I used it during the first play through but it wasnt game breaking or game making. My main rig is a 14700k and Ive got like 20 cores or so, but most of them are Ecores and the difference in gaming with a 5700X3d I have on hand is negligible - so much so that If I didnt have an FPS counter I couldnt tell the difference even though all my displays are high-refresh rate. Nvidia offers raytracing and high prices, and I dont care for either. I have made my decision. Either Intel ARC or AMD moving forward.
I switched from a GTX 1660 Super to a RX 6900 XT, because my friend generously gifted his GPU. AMD overall is so much better for less cpu overhead for older CPUs compared to NVIDIA.
@@6bye9Who cares? We have jobs to pay for things. If you can't afford it, don't buy it... I don't buy things thinking about power bill. I buy things to perform at a certain level.
@@farmeunitI think the guy was more talking about how the original commenter described the NINE personal computers his family actively uses. And wasn’t making a comment about power consumption of Nvidia vs AMD. That’s a large amount of PCs. I’m also generally curious about how much they spent/spend on all of them. Because, again, there’s NINE.
@Matt-ps9iz I have 4 with no kids. One gaming, one for gaming when girlfriend has class, one Plex and media, and my girlfriend. Then my daughter has one, so 5. A few kids would add one each.
Just switched from 3070 to 7900XT, AMAZING upgrade for a card that I payed less for. FSR is not as good as DLSS although 3.1 is very close BUT not needing to use upscaling in the first place makes that irrelevent.
yeah in my case it was from a 3070 oc to now a 7900 gre and it really does makes at least for me a big difference. more vram really helps alot and being to able to overclock more just makes everything better. only complaint is that I had to make a lego gpu holder for it lol
Thats a great combo! Mine is ryzen 5 9600x (zen 5) with RX7800 XT with the same RAM and trust me that 150 euros more I gave is not anything greater than the combo you said. Can't go wrong with both, I just wanted that zen 5 from Ryzen to work with my tridentz neo Z as a more new tech (but more new tech doesn't always mean better, time will show) One thing you take care of, make sure your 6000 RAM goes with 30 cas latency for more speed
I have been using Radeon ( ATI ) back in the early days now it's { AMD }. Currently I have the MSI Radeon RX-7900XTX Gaming Trio Classic and it has worked flawlessly for my needs. My previous card was the Power Color Red Devil Radeon RX-6900XT , that was the highest priced VC I had ever bought until I bought the above MSI card. I'm hoping the new Radeon 8k serie cards can provide a decent upgrade from the current generation. With AMD being the dweveloper of the APU's for the consoles for a while now and AMD supports open source software that more developers don't go all out with support for AMD more. If i was a software developer and I could use open source software that is supported by one of the major hardware brands , I would support them as much as I could. It's just a shame that AMD hasn't gotten better support but we can hope that will change.
Both the AMD & Nvidia are Announcing their New Video Cards at CES from Jan. 6th to Jan. 10th AMD will have their Event first Followed that Night with Nvidia.
Is shader compilation bs really that different between nvidia and AMD ? I would have thought it was more related to how the game and/or it's engine choose to handle it.
I did the switch over, went from a 3060 which for the card was a beast especially with the VRAM. But I wanted to go to the 1440P tier and was eyeing AMD. On Black Friday I got the 7900XT for $619, and it is an awesome card for pure rasterization, which was what I was looking for anyway since I don't play any ray tracing titles and if I do ever I have a card which will be able to perform. Also I use filmora too and I've had no issues rendering videos with it, been way faster than my 3060
since I only game and don't use ray tracing often and want pure performance, I was thinking of changing to the RX 8800 XT from my 3080 10 GB when it comes out if the specs and cost are similar to the rumours. Is this a good idea or is it not worth it to switch if the 3080's performance is good enough for the future?
I am assembling a new build and am considering going with this card too. Yesterday bought the RAM and processor. Already got power supply, AIO watercooler, some extra fans, and Monitor. From what I heard, the 5080 will come with 16gb again. I don't care if it's ddr7 or not. It's unacceptable that a card that will probably cost around 1400$ gets 16gb vram. Nvidia is doing this on purpose to get people to by the much more expensive 5090. I believe the 8800 will have 24gb. I'm only getting the 5080 if it gets at least 20gb and costs 1000$ the most. If not, than it's AMD for me 👍
3080 performances will decrease if your gonna play new AAA games or and the ones upcoming tbh 16 seems to be minimum now for those games 12 is fine for now and ok for fps games
upgraded from 1080ti to a 7900xtx a few weeks ago. I wanted a sub 1000 graphics card that would last 6-8 years like the 1080ti. I considered the 4080s but 16gb of vram for a $1K+ card is aninsult. Loving it so far.
I have always had AMD and never had a problem with them, great value for money.. Nshitia are just a rip-off, Ray Tracing is something I'm not really bothered about, graphics are so good you really don't need it..
Yeah. Ive had amd gpus since 7970 god knows how long ago that was. Roughest time was 5700xt The first half year was horror as pretty much nothing worked with the drivers but eventually it got fixed and it was great gpu till now that i got 7800xt.
oh man, I have the 7800 and it's epic, lucky you getting the 79. I know it's super exciting for you, but can you wait until early next year? the price on that is going to crash, you'd save yourself a lot of money. Anyways, have a fantastic Christmas.
No other brand can convince me to switch from amd after experiencing Afmf2. Instantly doubles your fps for all games without having to rely on game developers implementation is crazy.
Amd Overlay is 2 gen ahead of Nvidia, shows all i need and more, and shows in more game compared to msi after burner, can be turned on or off, not interfering with gameplay, if amd gets better fsr it will seriously change game
I was on the edge of getting a 7900 but went 4070 ti super because I liked how it looked better 😂. Can’t deny the 7900 is an insane deal in comparison but idiots like me are probably the only reason nvidia is still moving product
I got a 7700s laptop for US$700 and it handles everything that's thrown at it, with realitive ease. Adrenaline is also a very nice plus, with helping to keep things cool. I'm thinking of swapped out my RTX 4070 for the RX 5800 when that's released because the 12GB VRAM is getting concerning
i have always had amd gpus, and my friend i play with always buys the closest nvidia gpu. we do this a just a fun test between us(for 12 years now). I will say amd has gotten way better in just not have issues in the last 5 years. With that said you will still run into some issues with amd that he doesnt on nvidia, specifically they do have driver issues fairly often when the gpu is marginal in vram. they will update the driver and old games that used to run will crash, my most recent example was one of the driver updates made balders gate crash last summer, when it was fine before and is fine again. They seem to not address these when you look at the driver notes, but they obviously fix the issues later. I learned long ago to just roll back drivers when this happens. it is only like one game a year now though, so they are way better than they used to be
I believe AMD GPUs are good for gaming and streaming. For streaming and editing I would use OBS and not wondershare. The reason is because OBS supports AV1 which will match the nivdia counterpart. Also Wondershare is buggy and slows your computer down. I don’t think the developers even care. Meanwhile OBS is just as good and efficient and works very well on AMD and Nvidia. To me the only real con of AMD is basically AI features and Raytracing are much better on Nvidia. Along with playing bad with software that is CUDA dependent. Honestly it’s not a big deal for me as I don’t care about it too much. However I’ve heard 8800XT is going to be a much better product in terms of RT performance and AI features.
I agree on Cuda cores and raytracing, but all the rest is a pair or way better than Nvidia, especially if you pair an AMD CPU and GPU. SAM is the feature that is the cherry on top of the Team Red experience, along with the amount of VRAM and avoiding that nasty "Team Green" tax, making you pay more for less. Regular almost monthly GPU driver updates, and chipset updates around every 3 months, just keep your rig fresh and it will run so smoothly. I have so many AMD builds, from 1200 with 580xt then 1600af with 5700, then 5600x with 6600xt, 5800x3d with 6750xt, and now 7800x3d with 7900xt, always a great experience and I always feel that I am am getting all that I did pay for if not even more. GPU, I recommend Sapphire pulse as the best bang for a buck, is always cool and silent, and even 7800x3d with Honeywell pt and Noctua u12a air cooler on offset mount is silent and cold.
Here to tell you not to go to AMD. I've had 3 cards, 580, 5600 XT, and 6650 XT. Each one had horrible problems that were never fixed permanently. Always some kind of driver problem. If a game gets and update, chance it'll start acting up. Update the driver and now you can't overclock without another game crashing. Wait for a new driver, crashes are fixed. Next update, Windows doesn't even blue screen, it just shuts down without any warnings. Doesn't overheat. Usage is up to about 90% on default settings. Just crashes out of nowhere. Helldivers 2 isn't playable. It was for about a month until this driver update at the end of November. Used to get 70-80fps on max settings 1080p. Now the game drops to 20-30 and crashes every 20min and stalls at 100% usage. Stay away
I always go with Team Green. Nvidia have the best day one drivers for all major PC releases and DLSS's image quality is way superior to FSR's. Don't buy Radeon GPUs just to save a hundred bucks or so...because it ain't worth it.
I would personally go with the intel b580 under 300$. These choices don't seem that viable since they barely up their normal versions. I would just get the rx 6650xt or add a little more money and get the rx 7700xt or the rx 7800xt since they are so close to their prices. For Nvidia, I would choose the rtx 4070 as the bare minimum since the 4060 lineup doesn't make any sense price wise.
@Louwe8 in my country the b580 basicaly doens't exist, there is no stocks, the 4070 and 7700xt has a price problem (converting the currency, they are 200 dolars more expensive than the 4060 ti) and no stocks either, my options are 6750xt, 7600xt, 3060 12gb, 4060, 4060 ti or 6600xt, 6750xt is more expensive than the 4060 ti here
@concordo8384 that's a shame. Overall, the rtx 4060ti 8gb is the better option here even though I wouldn't get it. The rx 7600 xt is 5 to 10% better than 4060ti in raw power, but the rtx card quickly closes that gap with better upscaling and Cuda cores. They are both great for 1080p gaming, and if your main priority is gaming, then I would go with the rx 7600xt card with 16gb vram as it can help you in the future games. The 4060ti 16gb version is, however, the best option here without considering its horrible prices. I would also consider the rx 6700 xt as it can be better than rx 7600xt in some places.
I'd only ever consider higher end AMD if you're getting an amazing deal on it. I was upgrading my RX 6800 and was considering either the RX 7900 GRE or RTX 3090. If I'm buying a high-end product, I want high-end features, and I'm willing to go down from 150 to 130 fps in raster. Adrenaline is amazing, and I loved it. The one thing I absolutely miss from AMD is Fluid motion frame generation offered in Adrenaline. I can use frame generation with lossless scaling but it's very hit or miss. I also had more driver problems with Nvidia, specifically when playing AMD optimized games. I'm the kind of person who prefers visual quality over everything else, and not having everything maxed out used to taunt me so much. In my case, the choice was very clear the 3090 has more VRAM, rasters on par with the 7900 GRE and can path trace while being a whole $10 cheaper 😂. I assume the 7900 GRE doesn't consume 400W of power while running at 80°C tho. That could matter for someone idk.
I switched to amd from titan x pascal to sapphire toxic liquid cooled rx 6900xt,I'll buy cheap intel card for media workloads on the side before going back to Nvidia. And your mentions of dlss VS fsr vs xess was only on forza... and it's let me guess the presets? Because fsr is great with bunch adjustments in some titles and horrible in others, same with xess and dlss
@@zerobalance4027 If you could have got it for MSRP. It often was double the price like most cards from that time period. Also the 2080 super wasn't much to brag about. The whole 2000 series was just a rt launch over pascal.
Just switched to AMD again (RX 470 to 1660 Ti to 3060 Ti to 3070 to 7900 XT (for $620)) and I had trouble with crashes, BSODs, black screens, and TDR timeouts all on idle with Chrome and Discord. Fresh install didn't help with the latest updates to BIOS and chipset. What finally stopped it all was switching a displayport cable and going to Radeon Pro drivers 24.Q1.1. Everything is stable now with browsing, but I'm afraid to change anything.
Did you make sure to uninstall all Nvidia drivers? When I switched to the 7900 XT (from 3080) I had a few issues. I ran Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) to uninstall all graphics drivers. I then installed the AMD drivers and everything works perfectly.
@ yes, even a fresh install of Windows wouldn’t stop the crashing. Started ever since I switched to the card after a DDU then a shutdown. Everything is up to date.
I love Radeon GPU's, been using them since ATI owned them. Currently the worst thing about AMD GPU's is performance per watt, and then their upscaling and RT tech. Hopefully they can stay competitive in the mid range GPU I currently use RTX 4070 Super, mainly because it is a very power efficient GPU
Now personally for me, I’ve used both and AMD is very solid. However, I do truly believe FSR doesn’t look good at lower resolutions. DLSS Balanced at 1440P looks way better than FSR Balanced at the same resolution. I honestly am not a fan of consoles using FSR since at times it can make games look like a blurry and choppy mess. I will say that I am very excited for RX 8000 since FSR4 will also go the AI Route and that its RT performance will compete with NVIDIA since games are starting to go full RT now. I definitely plan on upgrading my 4060 ti to the RX 8800XT next spring (hopefully tariffs won’t jack up the prices🤞) lol
Great video! Really enjoyed the detailed breakdown of the 7800 XT, but I was curious why there wasn’t any mention of noise levels or coil whine. These can be important factors for some buyers. Keep up the awesome content!
I believe coil whine is pretty random depending on both gpu and psu. Ive now owned 5 different sapphire cards from 7970 to 7800xt and none had annoying coil whine. Either ive been lucky or sapphire cards have less whine. At one point i tried asus 6750xt and holy crap ive never heard such a loud screaming from computer. I sent that back the same day.
I own 3060ti, and all of them 'Ray tracing' etc is just straight bs. You pay towers of money for stuff you dont use at all, or your games dont even have an option for that, + price for brand (if you want bling bling fake 'real' colors, just get real HDR monitor, instead of 'ray tracing' gpu). Amd straight up offering you hardware improvement, not trash gpu with 90% of AI upscaling on everything
GTX 750 TI no problems, RX 570 4 gb no problems. RX 6600 bad drivers with huge video window maximizing delay 1-3 sec.also bad color calibration It needs hue -4. ARC A750 best color calibrated and prefferred vs rx 6600. ARC picture also is amazing. Arc also need to use it simultaneusly with the integrated video to remove the unnecessary power usage and go down that way to 1-2w. And used alone the card pull 37w, but with the integrated it pulls 1-2w idle. And i liked it more then the rx 6600. Now with the 4070 super i can say that the default color calibration is too far from both intel and amd and it is worse. The objects in games are like ghosts, ugly, almost transparent vs the intel. I managed to do the things fine using the rtx hdr and rtx dymamic vibrance, but on the intel this is stock. I am waiting for a better intel card like b790 or b980. To add some more info ARC is great for handbrake the fastest from all of them. Using QuickSync video hardware encoding is pleasure. It comes with 2 media engines.
I just want to remind everyone that nvidia only had one GPU which had over 12gb of vram in the 30 series... planned obsolescence is a thing and nvidia does not give a s**t about you as a consumer. Another example, look how they abandoned the 30 series with frame gen... this happens frequently. The 20 series introduced DLSS, the 10 didnt get it... why can a 1060 use Xess but not dlss? This happens again and again...
Amd gpus are good wrt price to performance but more vram not always means more performance, there are few videos on UA-cam which demonstrates the scenario. 7800xt 16 gigs vs 4070 12 gigs would have some performance difference wrt vram usage ie some game's would consume 12 gb of vram on amd which nvidia can do in 10 gb (this is considering upto 1440p gaming with rtx on).
I never had nvidia gpu my first gpu i bought was rx 6600 with ryzen 5 5600. The reason i didn't bought rtx gpu is because people says nvidia uses more power to work so my electocity price will be increased every months for that reason i didn't bought nvidia for ray tracing.
Yes that is true with RTX 3000 series. The 4000 series however is super efficient. But the GPU you have along with lower end AMD gpus don't use much power either. AMD and NVIDIA's high end unfortunately are not very power conservative.
I bought a 7800xt Hell Hound spectacle Edition roughly a year ago. At first I was a little disappointed due to my person experience learning the Adrenaline software. Once I got used to it, I will honestly never go back to Nvidia. Nvidia has amazing cards with great performance. But the price simply to high. I was googling and 2k-2.5k for a 4090??? Are you insane??? That is more then my entire pc cost. I wish I would have bought one sooner. Near the end ik you mentioned AMD not having streaming encoders or any of the special stuff. IK the 6000 and 7000 series gpus have AV1 encoding. So you can get that feature, but only on the new/higher end pc's.
For machine learning you're gonna wanna go NVIDIA. But if you want more performance, the 7900xt is much faster in general mainly in gaming. It also has 8 more GB of VRAM.
That's not how it works. For example, with AV1 support AMD cards above 7800XT, often outperform Nvidia cards that cost up to 30% more, when it comes to rendering/video editing.
Best GPU of this generation and 1st GPU that offered good value after dark ages of overpriced GPUs. For 450$ its still best buy in my opinion and it will hold its ground much in future better than Nvidia in that price range. 16gb and high bandwidth makes it future proof. I hope it gets next gen FSR..
Well may be you haven't been keeping up but Intel just release their battlemage cards (one for now - B580) and it destroy AMD in the mid-range by value and quantity of vram. AMD will have to lower the price of their cards thanks to Intel.
AMD is certainly less stable than Nvidia. Anyone who says different doesn't play enough games to learn that. With that said AMD isn't super unstable and not capable of being used. But it is true. Be careful.
@@l0rd0fs1n AMD isn't so unstable you shouldn't buy it, but rather Nvidia is just MORE stable. I've had the 7800 xt 7900 gre and 7900 xtx and the 6800 xt. I work at microcenter so I got access to allot of people at a cheap price. I had issues wiith World of warcraft, which still has some slight odd business when launching once in a while. With WoW, and also emulation not wanting to work right. I had to disable full screen optimizations, which was very odd lol. And google didn't tell me this I had to figure it out. Driver timeouts once in a blue moon out of no where. Also sometimes updating to a new driver can cause a game you like out of no where to run horribly. Also fallout 3 wouldn't even load. Fallout new vegas crashes visiously. They require work arounds. Also a common issue, is for SOME people when connecting to a TV using HDMI the audio will almost, cut out then back in very quickly once in a whike. And I tried EVERYTHING that can be done. Amd can be touchy about what build it wants to work well on. The 6800 xt didn't even want to post once windows loaded lol. Fresh install, latest drivers ect. Then I had to go back 2 drivers earlier to make it work, This is stuff that is absurd. Some people may never experience these issues. But people confuse their lone experience as representing the entire base. Googling any of my said issues above will show results^ This is what I actually experienced on all of them. Pop in an Nvidia card? it simply worked and it worked perfectly and never stopped doing so.
Need you to provide examples because I have a giant backlog of games on Steam that I never had an issue with on my 7900 GRE. Plenty of reviewers also have not reported such issues. Even channels like Hardware Unboxed that does 50+ game benchmarks don't report having stability issues. Sounds like user error.
@@theboostedbubba6432 Fallout 3 wouldn't even load (google it) new vegas would crash constantly (google it) World of warcraft with driver timeouts (google it) These are games I heavily play. It's real issues from real use. that's so cool that all your games run well, good for you glad to hear it.
@@theboostedbubba6432 So, the pinical of your intellect is that 50 games were tested, and those represent the hundred+ thousand that exist? hardware unbox themeselves mention AMD crashing on Fallout when the show was at peak popularity. Sigh.....I'll never understand fanboys. You have to almost force your intellect to be that of a child.
The number of people who stream or do video editing compared to the number of people who don't is so small as to be statistically zero. I don't even know why you bother talking about it because people who do streaming or blender already know what card they need. I thought your channel was about gaming and that interested me but I'm not going to sub to a channel that's for streamers and video editors because I don't do those things. If your channel ever becomes about actual gaming instead of about something that 99% of people NEVER do, maybe I'll look at it again but this video seeems VERY self-indulgent. Just because YOU do it doesn't mean that the rest of us give a rat's posterior about streaming and blender. For every one person who says that they do these things, I can show you 100+ gamers who don't.
Nobody cares if you don't like the fact that streaming and video editing are mentioned. They are on most tech channels talking about GPUs by the way. Go and troll somewhere else.
It's not about "only raytraceing", Nvidia is reliable, it is as you said from all 3 upscallers fsr looks the worst. So if you own an old gpu using fsr might not be as enjoyable as a lot of artifacts will appear on screen and make everything blurry. Regarding the shader comilation, it depends on the game, not entirely on the graphics card. I also saw the shader compiling in God of War, but only once and it was really fast. If I am to make an assumption you saw it often because amd has less rendering cores than nvidia gpus (at least if I am to compare yours to mine, I got a 3080ti). The thing is Amd will always be budget friendly, but at the same time they are not pouring as much money and resources as Nvidia does. And yeah you get a small gap between Amd and Nvidia based on price to performance, but after all Nvidia is the market so they will charge you how much they want, that's just how this works. I am glad you had a great experience with Amd, I do pc building on the side, and I got a lot of Amd stuff returned or DOA (defective on arrival), and now Intel as well. But Nvidia, never had a gpu fail me, even if they are a little bit more expensive.
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Here are some timestamps to help you navigate the video and skip to certain points:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Pros
1:12 VRAM
1:38 Performance
3:00 Software
4:32 Recording + Streaming
5:01 AMD Sponsored Games
5:36 Smart Access Memory (SAM)
6:04 Frame Generation
6:55 Cons
7:09 Compiling Shaders
8:20 Editing
9:32 Recording Compared To NVIDIA
10:50 Adrenaline Recording
11:22 Upscaling (DLSS, FSR) and Ray Tracing
14:39 New Intel GPUs
15:30 NVIDIA 50 Series + AMD 8000 Series
15:59 Outro
People dont know what they talking about cuz 90% of the People háve nvidia and they are scared from change and dont get mé wrong i was the samé i gót only nvidia gpus before all the way from the gt 720, gtx 1050ti, Rtx 2070super, Rtx 3070 OC and Rtx4070super and yes all was good but 20 series was too expensive and cant do RT the 30 series was again expensive cuz scalpers and shortage and also cant do RT and 40series was fine but also it can do RT ultra but ony with dlss quality and frame gen and all this in 1440p ultra i mean its nôt bad but look at the Indiana Jones max settings at 1440p game tell you need minimum 12gb IF VRAM and you get only 12gb of VRAM and this is nôt good for modern gpu also price is terrible for nvidia at least in europe. Over all nvidia great for aplicationd blender, photoshop, stream, OBS over all good stuff cuz most aplications run great on nvidia but worse on AMD. So there pros and also cons. So with nvidia you get great RT performance and for fire there are gonna bé games that gonna have RT baked into engine so there you will noticed some gains but yeah thats about it cuz even this gpu cant do really RT in native so another pro háve Best stability in profesional aplications and over all every new game will gonna have dlss so yeah. And cons well nvidia is expensive Like way too mutch and give you a lot less VRAM and if you compare Rtx 4070 super and rx 7900gre gre win in raster performance from 10 to 15% on avarage in most games at 1440p and 4k max settings also amd give you mutch better 1%. Lows and well driver stability in insaine on amd gpus i have my amd gpu from april and i dont háve a single issue with driver only issue is that as was mention in video first tíme you play game you can experience lags on amd hardware cuz shaders loading as you play but thats just lest say 5 to 10 min and its just only first tíme or after you upgrade you gpu drivers but over all its great also the adrenalin is by far my most favourite thing after i bough amd gpu its great 100% better than nvidia one and i tested even new nvidia one but still amd just makes really good gpu software, but also there háve to cons as well and yes they are lets start with fsr well fsr2 or fsr 3 is not great only good fsr version is fsr 3.1 this one is great compare to older ones and games that support fsr 3.1 and they are implemented correctly it looks great in fsr native and even quality looks good and only in 1440p i woukd nôt use fsr quality in 1080p cuz that is gonna looks bad and al ll the tíme. There was riecently update for fsr 3.1 in space marine 2 and oh boy is it good yes it is fsr native really fix shimering in that game yes there are still some in perfection but actually i find those in perfection as well on nvidia dlaa in that game as well but both dlaa and fsr native doing great joj i this game and amd frame gen i dont know how they implemented it so good but on my rx 7900gre in 1440p native with frame gen i go around 180fps on avarage but i locked my fps to 144 so i have fluid as possible game play and Like this i have 4 to 5ms of frame tíme just perfect implementation. But yeah you have to make Choice for your self i dit mine and yet i have my Rtx 4070 super i sold all other of mine nvidia gpus but now i my main gpu the rx 7900gre cuz it does what gpu should do no more no less and in perfect world this gpu would bé high end but rn its mid range cuz well games Come out broken unoptimized and over all new releases need fix after Launch sadly so háve 16gb of VRAM savé mé a lot of tíme perhaps in stalker 2 that is great game but suffer from bad otilization and also suffer from UE5.1 stupid low performance but in this game i using at 1440p epic settings around 11.3gb of VRAM and with framgen and fsr native a bit more than that. But i also start to notice the TSR option and in many games this looks great better than dlaa and mutch better tha xess or fsr native and in stalker 2 this looks amazing and it give you even less ms of your fame tíme and your game run mutch better. Rn im using TSR in 3 games with both nvidia and amd gpu and i testing performance and visual looks and well i have to say TSR is less Sharp than TAA but its actually mutch better Choice than TAA cuz repair that bad looking edges or meshes or foliage and make it looks great so far stalker 2 and warthunder both on 1440p max settings show mutch better visual results than dlaa or fsr and Best thing is you can use frame gen with TSR so its win win sutuation in my opinion. And when it Come to RT options the amd 7000 series can do RT quite well but it also need frame gen and fsr implementation just Like Nvidia háve but dont worry you will not gonna use RT even on gpu Like Rtx 4070 super or ti super cuz inpact on your fps is too big and i personally skip RT always cuz raster looks just great and run better as well. But Choice is yours you pay for something you nôt gonna use you gonna bé able to use it or you pay for less features but over all you get gpu with more raw power.
I switched and snagged a RX 7900 XTX open box for $600
That's amazing. I wish I had a micro center closer to me because their open box deals are great.
@@ShadowStarTech yea it was practically brand new, it came with the box and everything
Phenomenal GPU! Congrats on the deal!
@@Reluctant_Hero thanks
That’s crazy
I'll never buy Nvidia. What they've done to gamers is hideous.
I recently switched to AMD. I got the TUF 7900 XTX. it is outstanding!
That's GPU I have also such amazing performance card TUF did a good job with this GPU 👍
i broke my 2060 recently and had to switch to my brothers old one before i got my rx 6750, he had an old rx 570 and black ops 6 was running better on the 570 than the 2060, now with the 6750 i can run legit any game now with great performance
That sucks but a great upgrade! Hope that GPU serves you well!
My 1650 is still holding on after all these years, CoD gets about 2fps but most other games run pretty stable (looking at getting a RX 7800xt
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@@crashdaniel5807 COD is odd the instance of a game engine that performs better on AND Radeon GPUs year after year. So hearing that BO6 was running better in RX 570 doesn’t surprise me. And the RX 6750 is a great GPU. Congrats on the upgrade.
Copium downgrade or user error?
I have made a decision not to buy Nvidia. I have already switched to AMD, I love their 7800XT which I used to play Avatar in 4k - that did pretty well. I currently run a 6900XT Red Devil and this thing is mighty. My kids both run RX 6600 XTs - my wife runs a 5700XT Red Devil in her main PC and we both run RX Vega 56 Nitros in our work PCs. Ive got an RX 6400 in one of our small form factor media PCs, and an RX 6600 in another media PC both pushing 4k video.
Every single rig we have is a performer.
The last Nvidia card I had was an RTX 3070 and it was falling behind even in COD games due to just 8gb of ram - but for what I paid for it - it should have lasted much longer. The Ray Tracing is not worth it, I never used it aside from one game "Control" - and even when I go to replay it I never go to the settings to turn it on. I used it during the first play through but it wasnt game breaking or game making.
My main rig is a 14700k and Ive got like 20 cores or so, but most of them are Ecores and the difference in gaming with a 5700X3d I have on hand is negligible - so much so that If I didnt have an FPS counter I couldnt tell the difference even though all my displays are high-refresh rate.
Nvidia offers raytracing and high prices, and I dont care for either.
I have made my decision. Either Intel ARC or AMD moving forward.
I switched from a GTX 1660 Super to a RX 6900 XT, because my friend generously gifted his GPU. AMD overall is so much better for less cpu overhead for older CPUs compared to NVIDIA.
What’s the power bill like?🤣
@@6bye9Who cares? We have jobs to pay for things. If you can't afford it, don't buy it... I don't buy things thinking about power bill. I buy things to perform at a certain level.
@@farmeunitI think the guy was more talking about how the original commenter described the NINE personal computers his family actively uses. And wasn’t making a comment about power consumption of Nvidia vs AMD.
That’s a large amount of PCs. I’m also generally curious about how much they spent/spend on all of them. Because, again, there’s NINE.
@Matt-ps9iz I have 4 with no kids. One gaming, one for gaming when girlfriend has class, one Plex and media, and my girlfriend. Then my daughter has one, so 5. A few kids would add one each.
Ryzen 7500f + RX 6800 is still the budget GOAT :)
do you recommend upgrading from ryzen 5 5600 to that cpu?
@@Blaczek297 probably not since you have to buy a new mobo and ram as well. maybe if you had a worse cpu, or buy one better than the 7500f.
@@Blaczek297 on AM4 you could use the AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D as an upgrade. 7500f only when u buy new AM5 (CPU, 32GB RAM and Mainboard are ca. 450€).
Just switched from 3070 to 7900XT, AMAZING upgrade for a card that I payed less for.
FSR is not as good as DLSS although 3.1 is very close BUT not needing to use upscaling in the first place makes that irrelevent.
yeah in my case it was from a 3070 oc to now a 7900 gre and it really does makes at least for me a big difference. more vram really helps alot and being to able to overclock more just makes everything better. only complaint is that I had to make a lego gpu holder for it lol
Hi! I'm about to buy and build my first PC ever, it has Ryzen 5 7600X, 32 gb ram 6000 Mhz, And the RX 7700 XT. is it a good combo?
Thats a great combo!
Mine is ryzen 5 9600x (zen 5) with RX7800 XT with the same RAM and trust me that 150 euros more I gave is not anything greater than the combo you said.
Can't go wrong with both, I just wanted that zen 5 from Ryzen to work with my tridentz neo Z as a more new tech (but more new tech doesn't always mean better, time will show)
One thing you take care of, make sure your 6000 RAM goes with 30 cas latency for more speed
I recently bought a 7600x with amd 7700 xt combo and i can play all AAA games on 1080p using ultra settings.
Love my RX6800 with 16GB of VRAM. Going with the AM4 platform back in 2018 was the best gaming PC decision I ever made.
I have been using Radeon ( ATI ) back in the early days now it's { AMD }. Currently I have the MSI Radeon RX-7900XTX Gaming Trio Classic and it has worked flawlessly for my needs. My previous card was the Power Color Red Devil Radeon RX-6900XT , that was the highest priced VC I had ever bought until I bought the above MSI card. I'm hoping the new Radeon 8k serie cards can provide a decent upgrade from the current generation. With AMD being the dweveloper of the APU's for the consoles for a while now and AMD supports open source software that more developers don't go all out with support for AMD more. If i was a software developer and I could use open source software that is supported by one of the major hardware brands , I would support them as much as I could. It's just a shame that AMD hasn't gotten better support but we can hope that will change.
moved to AMD... best thing that i did...
Both the AMD & Nvidia are Announcing their New Video Cards at CES from Jan. 6th to Jan. 10th
AMD will have their Event first Followed that Night with Nvidia.
Is shader compilation bs really that different between nvidia and AMD ? I would have thought it was more related to how the game and/or it's engine choose to handle it.
Linux means AMD… Linux Freedom is more important than anything else
I did the switch over, went from a 3060 which for the card was a beast especially with the VRAM. But I wanted to go to the 1440P tier and was eyeing AMD. On Black Friday I got the 7900XT for $619, and it is an awesome card for pure rasterization, which was what I was looking for anyway since I don't play any ray tracing titles and if I do ever I have a card which will be able to perform. Also I use filmora too and I've had no issues rendering videos with it, been way faster than my 3060
since I only game and don't use ray tracing often and want pure performance, I was thinking of changing to the RX 8800 XT from my 3080 10 GB when it comes out if the specs and cost are similar to the rumours. Is this a good idea or is it not worth it to switch if the 3080's performance is good enough for the future?
I am assembling a new build and am considering going with this card too. Yesterday bought the RAM and processor. Already got power supply, AIO watercooler, some extra fans, and Monitor.
From what I heard, the 5080 will come with 16gb again. I don't care if it's ddr7 or not. It's unacceptable that a card that will probably cost around 1400$ gets 16gb vram.
Nvidia is doing this on purpose to get people to by the much more expensive 5090.
I believe the 8800 will have 24gb.
I'm only getting the 5080 if it gets at least 20gb and costs 1000$ the most. If not, than it's AMD for me 👍
3080 performances will decrease if your gonna play new AAA games or and the ones upcoming tbh 16 seems to be minimum now for those games 12 is fine for now and ok for fps games
unless your playing in 1080p or shooter 10 should be fine
upgraded from 1080ti to a 7900xtx a few weeks ago. I wanted a sub 1000 graphics card that would last 6-8 years like the 1080ti. I considered the 4080s but 16gb of vram for a $1K+ card is aninsult. Loving it so far.
bad move, since the 8000 series are releasing next month
yeah i wanted to justify buying that card but man if it had atleast 20gb it would of been perfect imo
I have always had AMD and never had a problem with them, great value for money..
Nshitia are just a rip-off, Ray Tracing is something I'm not really bothered about, graphics are so good you really don't need it..
Yeah. Ive had amd gpus since 7970 god knows how long ago that was. Roughest time was 5700xt The first half year was horror as pretty much nothing worked with the drivers but eventually it got fixed and it was great gpu till now that i got 7800xt.
3:33 you can do all of this w Nvidia too
getting my 7900xt for christmas cant wait
You will love that card.
Enjoy it man, I have a 7900 GRE and this thing is awesome. Can only imagine how amazing the XT is to own.
oh man, I have the 7800 and it's epic, lucky you getting the 79. I know it's super exciting for you, but can you wait until early next year? the price on that is going to crash, you'd save yourself a lot of money. Anyways, have a fantastic Christmas.
No other brand can convince me to switch from amd after experiencing Afmf2.
Instantly doubles your fps for all games without having to rely on game developers implementation is crazy.
Amd Overlay is 2 gen ahead of Nvidia, shows all i need and more, and shows in more game compared to msi after burner, can be turned on or off, not interfering with gameplay, if amd gets better fsr it will seriously change game
i have it on a good note that FSR 4 will be where thing truly go down hill for NVIDIA.
I was on the edge of getting a 7900 but went 4070 ti super because I liked how it looked better 😂. Can’t deny the 7900 is an insane deal in comparison but idiots like me are probably the only reason nvidia is still moving product
Yea aesthetics can be a factor for some, especially if you want an all white build, there's more all white options from NVIDIA.
AMD has been working on their counterpart to Cudda - it's called : AMD ROCm. Nice video :)
I got a 7700s laptop for US$700 and it handles everything that's thrown at it, with realitive ease. Adrenaline is also a very nice plus, with helping to keep things cool.
I'm thinking of swapped out my RTX 4070 for the RX 5800 when that's released because the 12GB VRAM is getting concerning
I switched from i5 9 gen +2060 to ryzen 5 7600x + RX 7800 xt. Somehow i cant play AC Origins even in 1080p. Other games seems to working just fine.
i have always had amd gpus, and my friend i play with always buys the closest nvidia gpu. we do this a just a fun test between us(for 12 years now). I will say amd has gotten way better in just not have issues in the last 5 years. With that said you will still run into some issues with amd that he doesnt on nvidia, specifically they do have driver issues fairly often when the gpu is marginal in vram. they will update the driver and old games that used to run will crash, my most recent example was one of the driver updates made balders gate crash last summer, when it was fine before and is fine again. They seem to not address these when you look at the driver notes, but they obviously fix the issues later. I learned long ago to just roll back drivers when this happens. it is only like one game a year now though, so they are way better than they used to be
I believe AMD GPUs are good for gaming and streaming. For streaming and editing I would use OBS and not wondershare. The reason is because OBS supports AV1 which will match the nivdia counterpart.
Also Wondershare is buggy and slows your computer down. I don’t think the developers even care. Meanwhile OBS is just as good and efficient and works very well on AMD and Nvidia.
To me the only real con of AMD is basically AI features and Raytracing are much better on Nvidia. Along with playing bad with software that is CUDA dependent.
Honestly it’s not a big deal for me as I don’t care about it too much.
However I’ve heard 8800XT is going to be a much better product in terms of RT performance and AI features.
I agree on Cuda cores and raytracing, but all the rest is a pair or way better than Nvidia, especially if you pair an AMD CPU and GPU. SAM is the feature that is the cherry on top of the Team Red experience, along with the amount of VRAM and avoiding that nasty "Team Green" tax, making you pay more for less. Regular almost monthly GPU driver updates, and chipset updates around every 3 months, just keep your rig fresh and it will run so smoothly. I have so many AMD builds, from 1200 with 580xt then 1600af with 5700, then 5600x with 6600xt, 5800x3d with 6750xt, and now 7800x3d with 7900xt, always a great experience and I always feel that I am am getting all that I did pay for if not even more. GPU, I recommend Sapphire pulse as the best bang for a buck, is always cool and silent, and even 7800x3d with Honeywell pt and Noctua u12a air cooler on offset mount is silent and cold.
Watched two of your videos and you sir earned a sub
I just got the 7900xt for 620 from micro. I was upgrading from a 1080 and first got the 6800xt but started doing more research 👀
Here to tell you not to go to AMD. I've had 3 cards, 580, 5600 XT, and 6650 XT. Each one had horrible problems that were never fixed permanently. Always some kind of driver problem. If a game gets and update, chance it'll start acting up. Update the driver and now you can't overclock without another game crashing. Wait for a new driver, crashes are fixed. Next update, Windows doesn't even blue screen, it just shuts down without any warnings. Doesn't overheat. Usage is up to about 90% on default settings. Just crashes out of nowhere. Helldivers 2 isn't playable. It was for about a month until this driver update at the end of November. Used to get 70-80fps on max settings 1080p. Now the game drops to 20-30 and crashes every 20min and stalls at 100% usage. Stay away
I had a 3050 laptop, then I learnt pc building, and i built a pc with the 7800xt, 7600x, all inside the fractal north
3050 laptop sucks lmao
@@Blaczek297 ik, i bought it when i didnt know anything about pcs, now i have a brand new pc which i built myself
I always go with Team Green. Nvidia have the best day one drivers for all major PC releases and DLSS's image quality is way superior to FSR's. Don't buy Radeon GPUs just to save a hundred bucks or so...because it ain't worth it.
should i buy a RX 7600 XT or a 4060 ti 8gb?, what are the pro's and cons of them?
I would personally go with the intel b580 under 300$. These choices don't seem that viable since they barely up their normal versions. I would just get the rx 6650xt or add a little more money and get the rx 7700xt or the rx 7800xt since they are so close to their prices. For Nvidia, I would choose the rtx 4070 as the bare minimum since the 4060 lineup doesn't make any sense price wise.
@Louwe8 in my country the b580 basicaly doens't exist, there is no stocks, the 4070 and 7700xt has a price problem (converting the currency, they are 200 dolars more expensive than the 4060 ti) and no stocks either, my options are 6750xt, 7600xt, 3060 12gb, 4060, 4060 ti or 6600xt, 6750xt is more expensive than the 4060 ti here
@concordo8384 that's a shame. Overall, the rtx 4060ti 8gb is the better option here even though I wouldn't get it. The rx 7600 xt is 5 to 10% better than 4060ti in raw power, but the rtx card quickly closes that gap with better upscaling and Cuda cores. They are both great for 1080p gaming, and if your main priority is gaming, then I would go with the rx 7600xt card with 16gb vram as it can help you in the future games. The 4060ti 16gb version is, however, the best option here without considering its horrible prices. I would also consider the rx 6700 xt as it can be better than rx 7600xt in some places.
I'd only ever consider higher end AMD if you're getting an amazing deal on it. I was upgrading my RX 6800 and was considering either the RX 7900 GRE or RTX 3090. If I'm buying a high-end product, I want high-end features, and I'm willing to go down from 150 to 130 fps in raster. Adrenaline is amazing, and I loved it. The one thing I absolutely miss from AMD is Fluid motion frame generation offered in Adrenaline. I can use frame generation with lossless scaling but it's very hit or miss. I also had more driver problems with Nvidia, specifically when playing AMD optimized games. I'm the kind of person who prefers visual quality over everything else, and not having everything maxed out used to taunt me so much. In my case, the choice was very clear the 3090 has more VRAM, rasters on par with the 7900 GRE and can path trace while being a whole $10 cheaper 😂. I assume the 7900 GRE doesn't consume 400W of power while running at 80°C tho. That could matter for someone idk.
I switched to amd from titan x pascal to sapphire toxic liquid cooled rx 6900xt,I'll buy cheap intel card for media workloads on the side before going back to Nvidia. And your mentions of dlss VS fsr vs xess was only on forza... and it's let me guess the presets? Because fsr is great with bunch adjustments in some titles and horrible in others, same with xess and dlss
i would get the compiling shaders thing on my rtx 3060 ti
3060 ti sucked for it's cost point. It also still sucks
@spudbuilt4308 yeah I agree that's why I sold it and bought a Rx 7800 xt
@spudbuilt4308 ? 3060ti was one of the best price to performance gpus of ampere generation. Faster than 2080 super for less money
@@zerobalance4027 If you could have got it at MSRP. It was like all the other cards of that time and usually double the price.
@@zerobalance4027 If you could have got it for MSRP. It often was double the price like most cards from that time period. Also the 2080 super wasn't much to brag about. The whole 2000 series was just a rt launch over pascal.
RTX 5060Ti 16GB 128BIT GDDR7, RTX 5070Ti 16GB 256BIT GDDR7,
RTX 5080 24GB 256BIT GDDR7 will wipe out the whole AMD gpu.
Just switched to AMD again (RX 470 to 1660 Ti to 3060 Ti to 3070 to 7900 XT (for $620)) and I had trouble with crashes, BSODs, black screens, and TDR timeouts all on idle with Chrome and Discord. Fresh install didn't help with the latest updates to BIOS and chipset. What finally stopped it all was switching a displayport cable and going to Radeon Pro drivers 24.Q1.1. Everything is stable now with browsing, but I'm afraid to change anything.
Did you make sure to uninstall all Nvidia drivers? When I switched to the 7900 XT (from 3080) I had a few issues. I ran Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) to uninstall all graphics drivers. I then installed the AMD drivers and everything works perfectly.
3060ti to 3070 is a pointless upgrade that's literally like 10 more fps😭
@ it was when GPUs were scalped and not sold at msrp. Was able to sell it for $300 more.
@ yes, even a fresh install of Windows wouldn’t stop the crashing. Started ever since I switched to the card after a DDU then a shutdown. Everything is up to date.
I love Radeon GPU's, been using them since ATI owned them. Currently the worst thing about AMD GPU's is performance per watt, and then their upscaling and RT tech. Hopefully they can stay competitive in the mid range GPU
I currently use RTX 4070 Super, mainly because it is a very power efficient GPU
Now personally for me, I’ve used both and AMD is very solid. However, I do truly believe FSR doesn’t look good at lower resolutions. DLSS Balanced at 1440P looks way better than FSR Balanced at the same resolution. I honestly am not a fan of consoles using FSR since at times it can make games look like a blurry and choppy mess. I will say that I am very excited for RX 8000 since FSR4 will also go the AI Route and that its RT performance will compete with NVIDIA since games are starting to go full RT now. I definitely plan on upgrading my 4060 ti to the RX 8800XT next spring (hopefully tariffs won’t jack up the prices🤞) lol
Great video! Really enjoyed the detailed breakdown of the 7800 XT, but I was curious why there wasn’t any mention of noise levels or coil whine. These can be important factors for some buyers. Keep up the awesome content!
The point about coil whine is... It is not even consistent between same cards of the same brand with the same chip and all.
I believe coil whine is pretty random depending on both gpu and psu. Ive now owned 5 different sapphire cards from 7970 to 7800xt and none had annoying coil whine. Either ive been lucky or sapphire cards have less whine. At one point i tried asus 6750xt and holy crap ive never heard such a loud screaming from computer. I sent that back the same day.
I own 3060ti, and all of them 'Ray tracing' etc is just straight bs. You pay towers of money for stuff you dont use at all, or your games dont even have an option for that, + price for brand (if you want bling bling fake 'real' colors, just get real HDR monitor, instead of 'ray tracing' gpu). Amd straight up offering you hardware improvement, not trash gpu with 90% of AI upscaling on everything
GTX 750 TI no problems, RX 570 4 gb no problems. RX 6600 bad drivers with huge video window maximizing delay 1-3 sec.also bad color calibration It needs hue -4. ARC A750 best color calibrated and prefferred vs rx 6600. ARC picture also is amazing. Arc also need to use it simultaneusly with the integrated video to remove the unnecessary power usage and go down that way to 1-2w. And used alone the card pull 37w, but with the integrated it pulls 1-2w idle. And i liked it more then the rx 6600. Now with the 4070 super i can say that the default color calibration is too far from both intel and amd and it is worse. The objects in games are like ghosts, ugly, almost transparent vs the intel. I managed to do the things fine using the rtx hdr and rtx dymamic vibrance, but on the intel this is stock. I am waiting for a better intel card like b790 or b980. To add some more info ARC is great for handbrake the fastest from all of them. Using QuickSync video hardware encoding is pleasure. It comes with 2 media engines.
I just want to remind everyone that nvidia only had one GPU which had over 12gb of vram in the 30 series... planned obsolescence is a thing and nvidia does not give a s**t about you as a consumer. Another example, look how they abandoned the 30 series with frame gen... this happens frequently. The 20 series introduced DLSS, the 10 didnt get it... why can a 1060 use Xess but not dlss? This happens again and again...
Are you going to make the same video for Nvidia? Only fair right?
There's no fairness. Only numbers.
Probably not. No need to when nvidia owns 88% of the market share. Plus he already listed the nvidia advantages in this video.
I have a 4090 and I am happy with it.
As you should be!
Well yeah, its the best card😂
Amd gpus are good wrt price to performance but more vram not always means more performance, there are few videos on UA-cam which demonstrates the scenario. 7800xt 16 gigs vs 4070 12 gigs would have some performance difference wrt vram usage ie some game's would consume 12 gb of vram on amd which nvidia can do in 10 gb (this is considering upto 1440p gaming with rtx on).
I never had nvidia gpu my first gpu i bought was rx 6600 with ryzen 5 5600. The reason i didn't bought rtx gpu is because people says nvidia uses more power to work so my electocity price will be increased every months for that reason i didn't bought nvidia for ray tracing.
Yes that is true with RTX 3000 series. The 4000 series however is super efficient. But the GPU you have along with lower end AMD gpus don't use much power either. AMD and NVIDIA's high end unfortunately are not very power conservative.
@ShadowStarTech lol rx 6600 is amd gpu and you talk about that and Ryzen is amd cpu lol.
bit late of a vid but so far I am loving my 7900 gre and hope to love it for many more years to come. ur time is up 3070🍷
I bought a 7800xt Hell Hound spectacle Edition roughly a year ago. At first I was a little disappointed due to my person experience learning the Adrenaline software. Once I got used to it, I will honestly never go back to Nvidia. Nvidia has amazing cards with great performance. But the price simply to high. I was googling and 2k-2.5k for a 4090??? Are you insane??? That is more then my entire pc cost. I wish I would have bought one sooner.
Near the end ik you mentioned AMD not having streaming encoders or any of the special stuff. IK the 6000 and 7000 series gpus have AV1 encoding. So you can get that feature, but only on the new/higher end pc's.
What about a 7900XT vs 4070 Super, for mostly gaming and streaming with mild content creation and perhaps some machine learning
For machine learning you're gonna wanna go NVIDIA. But if you want more performance, the 7900xt is much faster in general mainly in gaming. It also has 8 more GB of VRAM.
if you are for work like he said editing and rendering go for nvidia
if your rig is pure for gaming only go for amd
That's not how it works. For example, with AV1 support AMD cards above 7800XT, often outperform Nvidia cards that cost up to 30% more, when it comes to rendering/video editing.
11.18, Recording is very easy to start, stop, and edit.
SAM ..is clever marketing and just a renamed "resizable bar" and not exclusive to AMD. Has been around before sam was a thing.
Planning to build an amd rig, with ryzen 7 9800x3d, ill just wait for the rx 8800 xt 😁
Appreciate your content!
I just bought a 4080 super the other day I love it
its the second best graphics card in the world for a reason. its awesome.
Same here, absolutely love it
@@RichRich-jl5oh Not for long
Best GPU of this generation and 1st GPU that offered good value after dark ages of overpriced GPUs. For 450$ its still best buy in my opinion and it will hold its ground much in future better than Nvidia in that price range. 16gb and high bandwidth makes it future proof. I hope it gets next gen FSR..
Id also bring up how nvidia hamstrings itself with 8gb vram unless you pay over $600.
Well may be you haven't been keeping up but Intel just release their battlemage cards (one for now - B580) and it destroy AMD in the mid-range by value and quantity of vram. AMD will have to lower the price of their cards thanks to Intel.
I mentioned that at the end of the video
AMD is certainly less stable than Nvidia. Anyone who says different doesn't play enough games to learn that.
With that said AMD isn't super unstable and not capable of being used.
But it is true. Be careful.
You have AMD? How many and what games do you play that you saw instability?
@@l0rd0fs1n AMD isn't so unstable you shouldn't buy it, but rather Nvidia is just MORE stable.
I've had the 7800 xt 7900 gre and 7900 xtx and the 6800 xt.
I work at microcenter so I got access to allot of people at a cheap price.
I had issues wiith World of warcraft, which still has some slight odd business when launching once in a while.
With WoW, and also emulation not wanting to work right. I had to disable full screen optimizations, which was very odd lol. And google didn't tell me this I had to figure it out.
Driver timeouts once in a blue moon out of no where. Also sometimes updating to a new driver can cause a game you like out of no where to run horribly. Also fallout 3 wouldn't even load. Fallout new vegas crashes visiously. They require work arounds.
Also a common issue, is for SOME people when connecting to a TV using HDMI the audio will almost, cut out then back in very quickly once in a whike. And I tried EVERYTHING that can be done.
Amd can be touchy about what build it wants to work well on.
The 6800 xt didn't even want to post once windows loaded lol. Fresh install, latest drivers ect. Then I had to go back 2 drivers earlier to make it work,
This is stuff that is absurd. Some people may never experience these issues. But people confuse their lone experience as representing the entire base.
Googling any of my said issues above will show results^
This is what I actually experienced on all of them.
Pop in an Nvidia card? it simply worked and it worked perfectly and never stopped doing so.
Need you to provide examples because I have a giant backlog of games on Steam that I never had an issue with on my 7900 GRE. Plenty of reviewers also have not reported such issues. Even channels like Hardware Unboxed that does 50+ game benchmarks don't report having stability issues. Sounds like user error.
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Fallout 3 wouldn't even load (google it)
new vegas would crash constantly (google it)
World of warcraft with driver timeouts (google it)
These are games I heavily play. It's real issues from real use. that's so cool that all your games run well, good for you glad to hear it.
@@theboostedbubba6432 So, the pinical of your intellect is that 50 games were tested, and those represent the hundred+ thousand that exist?
hardware unbox themeselves mention AMD crashing on Fallout when the show was at peak popularity.
Sigh.....I'll never understand fanboys. You have to almost force your intellect to be that of a child.
Don´t buy AMD, Rasterization only is over specially in modern games. DLSS >>>FSR, Raytracing, APIs, AI, etc...
The number of people who stream or do video editing compared to the number of people who don't is so small as to be statistically zero. I don't even know why you bother talking about it because people who do streaming or blender already know what card they need.
I thought your channel was about gaming and that interested me but I'm not going to sub to a channel that's for streamers and video editors because I don't do those things. If your channel ever becomes about actual gaming instead of about something that 99% of people NEVER do, maybe I'll look at it again but this video seeems VERY self-indulgent.
Just because YOU do it doesn't mean that the rest of us give a rat's posterior about streaming and blender. For every one person who says that they do these things, I can show you 100+ gamers who don't.
Bro he's just being thorough. 😂 People use gpus for these tasks so he covered that application. The channel is call "Tech" not "Gaming". 😂
Nobody cares if you don't like the fact that streaming and video editing are mentioned. They are on most tech channels talking about GPUs by the way. Go and troll somewhere else.
It's not about "only raytraceing", Nvidia is reliable, it is as you said from all 3 upscallers fsr looks the worst. So if you own an old gpu using fsr might not be as enjoyable as a lot of artifacts will appear on screen and make everything blurry. Regarding the shader comilation, it depends on the game, not entirely on the graphics card. I also saw the shader compiling in God of War, but only once and it was really fast. If I am to make an assumption you saw it often because amd has less rendering cores than nvidia gpus (at least if I am to compare yours to mine, I got a 3080ti). The thing is Amd will always be budget friendly, but at the same time they are not pouring as much money and resources as Nvidia does. And yeah you get a small gap between Amd and Nvidia based on price to performance, but after all Nvidia is the market so they will charge you how much they want, that's just how this works. I am glad you had a great experience with Amd, I do pc building on the side, and I got a lot of Amd stuff returned or DOA (defective on arrival), and now Intel as well. But Nvidia, never had a gpu fail me, even if they are a little bit more expensive.
Before you consider AMD, look at Intel Arc B580....
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