Just want to add if I didn't make it clear in the vod. Yes I dislike Arsha and alot of what I said targeted them but the point of that all wasn't to kill any rep they had, trust me that shit is unshakeable and nobody cares. It's more so a warning for future guilds NOT to be like them. Don't be the guild that loses all backbone for 0 reason. Don't be a guild that tries to pick its fights when they claim to be at a position where nobody can beat em. Don't be the guild of hypocrites. All that does is further enforce politics. There were MANY more screenshots I could have shown, and if I were a weirdo I'd have recorded audio of them saying even crazier shit in the context of my point. Don't be a bitch. All of those screenshots were in ONE discord, I could have littered this 45 min vod with just evidence on how strange Arsha was but I HOPE I got my actual point across with just how they talk about Sacred just to throw all of that away in the name of spite. Don't be like that. Stick to your guns.
yeah im sorry you werent there when we were deadass pushing content every saturday, that shit was peak. Shameless plug🙄, those vods are still up wins and losses
from curse to sound past the in game rivalry you were the only guild to rise from the ashes with us from T1’s into T4 and beyond nothing but respect. 👍
@@katana8455 sounds never been on sacreds side they’ve been good ally’s with nameless. Arshas always been a pet for sacred to piss on when they want to.
I dont know why all these people are bitching about t1s, we pulled less than 30 to those Nws and it was a FFA everytime. Dont complain when someone has the same amount of members other guilds would bring, use it to get better. Its what we did.
quitting, my guild was in a great place so I had no need to blow it up just to join another guild I wasnt tired of being in Sound and leading I was tired of the BDO community
Arsha touched down on t1s before too. The T1 crying makes 0 sense when that is the only place for consistent fights. Val was terrible and Cal would take everyone working together to beat Sacred including Arsha but guess what nobody including Arsha wants to do that. Val got stale VERY fast and you can tell with the way I stopped uploading those fights. If you watch the vods instead of dicksucking Arsha and trying to defend them you'd see it was simply not fun. It was rng with 20 min of running between the fights due to town spawns and it was the same guilds daily because every guild was on balenos every single day. Plus nw system ass nobody pulled numbers because rewards arent worth it with uncapped content being dead.
T1 was the only fights because guilds that should have been T2+ were going down and holding each other's pockets for the easy win. Y'all did the same stuff as nameless/panic and your guild suffered because of it. Y'all lost your backbone staying on T1s/Balenos as long as you did. Shame y'all are gone, but not at all surprising.
@Drachen651 This is nonsense. Nameless and Panic and Sound alternated between Bal and Val. Val was always ass especially when its only one fort because if your flag is killed you essentially cannot fight. If more guilds placed outside of the same 4 everyday then itd be easier to convince ppl in guild to show but everyone dislikes the system or specifically Val so they only show to Balenos. These are all things i can easily prove. If you want evidence my discord is SupremeBlackKai. If you just wanna buy into your own way of thinking though, you do that and enjoy but you are factually incorrect. Also we lost our backbone but anytime we did anything by ourselves we were successful like bro these are things thats documented, I have videos on the channel where Sound cooks on their own.
@@skoomadrinkers Literally don't care about Arsha at all. And I listened to the whole rant. You went on and on about Arsha and Sacred banding together to grief yalls siege. Yet meanwhile Sound is literally no different. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy in all the complaining you're doing. You didn't sit there and think for a second, "Huh, this must be what T1 guilds feel like when our siege alliance pulls up to T1 nws and siege." Instead you complained and moaned about two guilds that were stronger than yall doing exactly what yall do. And saying Arsha touched down on T1s is completely irrelevant as 1. Yall were CONSTANTLY on T1s as they were not. 2. My point being made wasn't about anyone being on any certain tier. It was, yet again, about you complaining about them being somewhere they shouldn't be while simultaneously doing the same thing.
@Rozzalle Yeah you didnt listen to me at all, that wasnt my complaint AT ALL I LITERALLY said I am happy they banded together but you DID NOT LISTEN so listen again or please stfu. Not tryna be a dickhead but if you gon come at me come correct. If Arsha and Sacred were allied every week I would not destroy my guild. That is a challenge Id want to overcome I wish I recorded every siege we ever did but if you look at the siege history and the type of fights Sound put themselves in you'd see that we chased fights we had a major chance to lose. Fighting those two guilds in itself isnt a problem its WHY it happened and it made me realize that the effort I put in isnt worth the touble because our community sucks. Has ZERO to do with anything else. How could I complain where guilds go when I stopped playing the game and stopped dictating where my guild went when I stopped playing? You were not listening for anything but a reason to respond negatively. Listen again and when you're done we can have a real discussion or you can ignore this and act like youre right and move on with your life
Incoming video "ARSHA KILLS SOUND! WHO's NEXT???" *Takes a clip and a ss out of context and then post a 4 min vod of great pushes while the commentary over it tries to refute any claims made or tries to swap the truth to some bs or just plays some music But nah in all seriousness despite your gay ass guild and your gay ass highschool antics as a grown ass man Im happy I had a guild to hate. Made the game more fun, appreciate you niggas being straight bozos, we were locked in🤞
@@skoomadrinkers I don’t hate you. & no that title is too lame. Video will be 🔥, but nah, content is content, bdo is bdo, i dont carry any of that bdo drama off bdo. I really fw this video and i hope even off bdo you have a blessed one
@Himiko_the_jedi yeah lil bro dropped a vid filled with the EXACT same shit I said he would. He and Sebz are two ppl I would gladly hop in vc with but with Siah he just be trolling, he's a dent he cant hold a convo
Alright, let me address everything that was I both saw addressed in these comments, and things that were also not. I STILL think the way Sacred ruins shit open world every day, poaches people from all guilds when they are clearly the pinnacle guild is a bit nonsense. You will find players who NEVER pvped ever open world/Siege to now showing up to everything when they join Sacred. Those are the people who will tell you the reason they dropped guild is because "they uninstalled" or "they quit the game for good" to just being more active than ever within 24 hours of joining a new guild. Hate is a strong word, I'm not gonna claim to HATE anyone from an online game because it's never been that serious to me. I will voice my frustrations on stream, or any discord about what I think about Sacred. I do think there is several people as well in that guild that aren't odd individuals & are chill for the most part. As far as the history of this game goes, there isn't a SINGLE person on console BDO who has fought AGAINST Sacred as much as I have across the years (including open world, nw, siege) with the exception of maybe 1 other individual but name dropping isn't important. I have also been in that guild for a short time, at the time they were not allied with anyone to push very difficult fights. I have said everything I have said about Sacred in any discord, vc or directly to them. None of it has been secretive. I made a guild that pulled top players from SEVERAL different guilds to avoid alliances completely when I left Flow because it got to a point Flow's alliance was way too strong, (Flow, Nameless, Panic, Gravedad, etc). The objective of this guild at the time was to pull all the players from these big guilds to compete against these guilds solo and it got to a point of insane strength. Sacreds old gm can confirm that they decided to drop alliances because of Red, as they saw multiple different people from there own guild joining Red & needed to make an action to bring everyone back. Someone from Red was offered an "officer" position in Sacred if they left Red and brought people with them. Those kids folded and went back to there own guild because at that point Sacred had dropped there TBM & Menace alliance. A lot of the players in Sacred are comfy because it provides guaranteed activity and participation at all levels of the game, however these people who previously NEVER contributed the following to activity for there other guilds. It's an odd thing, that I have yet to kinda wrap my head around. I figured I would start there since you think all of a sudden Arsha is cool with Sacred, we aren't. Arsha is the only guild that fights against them and has made any attempts at arranging 1v1s with them. Sacred does not want to do 50 man nws on capped, and Arsha canno't GUARANTEE to pull 75 for nws on uncapped. That's basically the summary of it. Nobody is dodging one another, I just don't think either guild is looking to compromise on that following subject. While I do believe that Sacred running a 1v1 on capped nws on a reasonable size node/siege is a more even playing field, they can do whatever they want at the end of the day. Again, this isn't me saying they are dodging. NWs: Prior to Arsha coming to Valencia permanently for NW's, we were the ONLY guild that dropped there 4 days in a row. You failed to mentioned that I told all of you (Nameless, Sound, Panic) to get the hell off of Valencia and come pvp against these kids. What did yall choose to do instead? 3 stack Valencia every day. At that time Arsha wasn't the way as it is now with attendance, and we were still down to go pvp on Calpheon those 4 days seeing if you guys were down to show up or not. Arsha didn't pull 75 or close to it whatsoever at the time so we came to Valencia instead. Since arrival, Arsha has absolutely DOMINATED Valencia node wars since the moment we have showed up. We have 1v1d Sound, we have 1v1d Nameless. Neither of the fights were close in terms of performance. We get all that. What you can't deny is you guys all CLAIMING you guys don't communicate with one another with where you are dropping for NWs and after 13 days STRAIGHT of dropping on Balenos, to come back on Valencia WITH NAMELESS. It is not coincidence. I have never stated that you guys coming up is fair for you guys, but your guild got the tail end of it because Nameless/Panic pushed it upon you. The 3 guilds in your alliance have massively lost nw participation because "the nw system is ass, it's too rng" all that nonsense, but Arsha's win rate on valencia is close to like 95%. No guild has individually taken the fort from Arsha in a 1v1. Arsha has taken the fort both from you guys in 1v1s that occured on Valencia against Sound & Nameless in dominant fashion, and when Arsha takes the fort we don't lose it. Even when Arsha owns the fort and it is Sound/Panic or Sound/Nameless together on NW it takes like 25+ minutes to even potentially flip the fort from us while you guys 2v1 our fort. The last time Sound and Panic dropped together and 2v1d our fort, both your guilds didn't even get participation for NW because of how bad the two of you guys lost. That's what put you guys on the 13 day Balenos hiatus fighting t1 guilds. Siege: This subject will be better understood with perspective perhaps. Arsha has had the weakest alliance by far of the 3. Arsha's second strongest guild (Motion) was not even close in strength to the weakest guild in your alliance, no diss (Sound). Arsha including MYSELF has said Arsha & Sound should run a 2v2 against Nameless & Panic for fun because competing against your guys alliance resulted in stalemates on Valencia with all our t1 guilds or losses. For I think 5 weeks Arsha had gone back to try and win on valencia but the guild strength from the alliances could not come up on top with castle advantage being in place regardless of how well Arsha had played. It wasn't winnable, just a prolonged fight that resulted in stalemating. However, what we will acknowledge is the fact that you guys could have gone to Calpheon to fight Sacred the same way your video preaches about it, but instead your alliance chose to fight Arsha on Valencia against guilds that are truly t1 caliber, with the opposing side having 2 established Siege guilds, Arsha couldn't backpack that. You guys chose fighting WTTD, FRAG & MOTION instead of going to do what you said people are soft for because they won't fight Sacred. IN REGARDS TO SIEGE WITH SACRED ON TERRITORY: THE LAST TIME Arsha came to Mediah to drop by itself, no allies. We helped Killing Sacrament, Darkhand and Ominous. As SOON as those guilds went down and it was JUST SACRED up on the map and I forget what guild they had in castle, YOU GUYS CHOSE to 2v1 Arsha before Sacred even went down. We even came to Sounds fort at one point that Siege and helped push Sacred off your fort because they got holes, for you guys in return to come 2v1 us after. NOW THIS SATURDAY, it was one of 2 options. 4v1 Sacred and kill them in 15-20 min max, then just get 3v1d by your alliance, or fight out something that was more fun. Arsha never came to Sacreds fort, Sacred never came to Arshas fort. Sacred won there side of the fight and Arsha fought against Sound & Panic together. Arsha held the pressure against both you guys and Panic the whole Siege. IMO Panic was a non factor that Siege, they felt headless. Overall, people are upset that we chose a fight that was more fun but need to understand, Arsha doesn't get fights on nw anymore, everyone on balenos fighting baby guilds. If we don't chase the fight, there is no fight for us. SIMPLE. TLDR: I think you threw out a lot of accusations that were in many points valid, but in almost EVERY point hypocritical. Please remind yourself and the community that SACRED gave SOUND immunity in the previous NW system were Siege lock outs were a thing. They caught you guys and LET you guys survive the 10 minutes before killing you. Now I encourage you to see if Sacred would've done that for Arsha, Nameless or Panic. Threat and Sound were the only 2 guilds that were given immunity by Sacred to not lock them out or communicated where NOT to go so they don't run into Sacred. Best of luck to you in whatever venture you pick up next, I think the hatred extending from when Arsha was a T1 guild from before I ever joined this guild until now is a little odd. There was fun fights that were presented to you on the table, I just wish you had taken them over your ego hatred towards T1 Arsha. There's no hatred from my end towards Sound in fact, I think you guys would have been in a much more fun spot had alliances shifted guilds around a bit. Think you seem to forget what guild started the sticking for Siege placements part. This started way before Sounds time. Hopefully these new pick ups other guilds got will encourage some Valencia PVP or Open World PVP. 😇 Appreciate the contribution you brought to the game. 🤜
Sebz you are tryna save face, I am not the one. I can hop in a vc with you, I will stream it and I will make a fool out of you just based on logic. Be like Siah and just rely on the fact that Arsha beats Sound and troll, all of this other nonsense you're talking is complete trash. Multiple points you've brought up is straight cap. Nigga told mfs to come like his comment so it can seem like you speaking facts but there's real evidence out there proving otherwise. The hate isn't based on t1s my guy. Lmk if you wanna jump into a vc and chop it up instead of writing books in my comment section we can make a video my guy.
@@skoomadrinkers what are u talking about ive witnessed it multiple times. One of yall takes a fort and the other 2 surround it fighting off whoever tries to take it. Yall salty cause ur zerg alliance can't fight the other top guilds and win. Yall got locked out of Valencia for a week by arsha and ran down to t1's and never went back
Panic Nameless Sound all have been dropping on T1s since the new NW changes. Making it difficult for any REAL T1 guild to build or have fun. Yet here you are tryna paint other guilds in a bad light. The game is so stale, that guilds are literally jus fishing for fights. Its not that deep. That whole alliance cares too much about being ego driven, than actually enjoying the game and tryna pvp. Wish you the best tho bro. Didnt have to decapitate an entire guild for your own personal views.
There's alot i can address here but this is what i will say. How can guilds grow and what are guilds growing to with the current NW system? Say that Panic, Nameless and Sound never touched Bal How does they system currently help smaller guilds perform on the next level? (siege)
@@skoomadrinkers Bro T1s is suppose to be for newer and actual small guilds. Theres alot that can come from them being down there without having to worry about fighting siege guilds, that have way more gear to better optimize and way more experience in largescale pvp. These guilds can grow by recruiting new players to the game or even work together somewhere down the line and merge into bigger guilds so they can move up and actually experience siege. Rn there is no chance in hell this happens, cuz they are discouraged by seeing the bigger and more experienced guilds dropping there everyday. Gatekeeping on T1s is disgusting behavior for suppose siege guilds but yall dont even see it that way.
So Arsha back in the day was on T1s. The T1s that actually helped build your guild to siege because the system was similar. When the t1 guilds complained they told everyone to get better, it was even numbers. But thats fine lets ignore the hypocrisy, its been a long time right? The current system sucks. Sound pulled less than 30 to nws after two weeks of it coming out. We should just deal with it right because the t1 guilds doesnt deserve to have to fight us is still your take right? Ok so we even pulled up to Val with less numbers and 1v1d Arsha. Arsha predictably won not only bc they are stronger but because they also had a huge number advantage and that demoralized my guild because Arsha went straight to talking shit because at the time they thought we teamed em. So then we actually teamed em for a few days because of the motion bs blah blah blah our numbers never improved. it got to the point where I stopped doing nws all together because I couldnt compete with anyone on Val bc we had no numbers and so why would I stop my guild from going to Bal when we pulled less than 30. Even went to Val with 30 ppl once and Panic was there too with 30. The goal was to atleast take the fort once to have forts swap back and forth but we didnt have the manpower. Now despite everything I said here I PERSONALLY agree. I dont think its good to balenos with siege guilds but Sound had the choice to either go to balenos where numbers wouldnt be an issue or fight yall every single day because it was only you who placed. My final question to you is you keep bringing up Sound and our alliance going to bal but why didnt you bring up the guilds who can pull 50 but still go to balenos? You think guilds like Threat (who you worked with saturday) cant pull 50? They tried Val ONE time and lost and never went back
@@skoomadrinkers Nah I agree Threat and Omn and conviction dont belong there either. You keep saying Arsha went to T1, that was OG Arsha and well before my time. Its also odd you say you cant pull more than 30 members but by the time of siege yall have like 70-90 every siege.The Arsha today isnt the same guild that you hated. This is why most the shit you say about this guild is wild to me. We have had the weakest alliance in forever and through all that even at times drop alone on nodes. knowing we wud get a fight win or lose due to yall or sacred alliance being there.
@joestats7612 No the arsha of now is worse than the Arsha before but you dont know the details bc I havent shown shit because it was never about being "morally" right over you guys it was about beating you but trust me your leadership is full of clowns. Period. Thats it though we can agree to disagree. the old arsha was just dumb, the new arsha is actually fucking weird
I don't like to get into these things, but I'll say something for everyone's clarification. If Sound disappears, it's not because of Arsha, Sacred or any other guild, it's because of Sound and no one else. I mean, I was a member of this guild, there are very cool people in it, but, but, not everyone is like that, and this last group of people within Sound make erratic decisions that directly affect the guild. Losing good players that today we know are scarce Going back to the subject, they removed many active members of the guild, for not understanding their orders or having Lag in the Nw or Sigue, without taking the trouble to see what happened with them, and there will be those who say that it is not like that, I have videos that prove what I say, many of those who were expelled were regular players, so they had a good GS and contributed their bit, in addition to practically participating in all NW and segue. If you get rid of these players, your guild is dead, it's that simple. They didn't have the vision to realize this, they didn't put a stop to the members who were making these foolish decisions. Today, BDO is at its worst, because veteran players quit due to lack of content, quit or move to PC. New players have a hard time leveling up and are not constant or disciplined. I do not seek to create controversy with my comment, I only express a reality, perhaps they do not see it or accept it, but that is how they began and it could not end well. I loved Sound in particular very much, and I always tried to give the best of myself, I have affection and respect for my former colleagues, but some of its members killed it, and allowed it... but no way, "the way is like this" A free tip to all GMs and Guild Officers. If you don't value your members, each one of them and you don't realize that they are trying to contribute to improve your project, in the end sooner rather than later you will see how the project dies.
I'm not sure what youre talking about with this "we went to T1s for fights" nonsense. Everyone knows you guilds like you Panic and Nameless went down to hold spots and NOT fight. At NO POINT did any of you do anything else. At least Arsha and Sacred stayed on their tiers during the week. You moved down to avoid Ls, and now you're disbanded. Biggest L ever 😂
Sound = All noise. Good riddance 😅. Sacred showed you guys your place. Blame Arsha and Sacred to cover up your own incompetence. Stop making excuses, Nameless and Panic carried you guys far too long. Now gtfo here😅
Braindead take. Plenty of vods proving otherwise and there are sieges where we dropped alone and won and held that bitch on multiple occasions. Not an opinion its a fact
If you cant tell how your GM is then you are cooked, there's a reason your team up happened AFTER Nameless had their meeting leaked. Why would Sebz, who is on record plenty of times claiming to not want to work with Sacred and always be against Sacred, why would he team up with them knowing the risk of losing members? (like you guys did) There are plenty of fights for Arsha in siege. Nameless has said they are fine with a rematch with the 1v1. Even to the point where we'd delay the Cal push if you guys fought em again.
@@skoomadrinkers have you ever heard of the term the enemy of my enemy is my friend? works the same way. arsha was placed alone, it wouldve been them solo, threat and sacred together vs yall 3. makes no sense to not work together to make content and kill the ego yall float on. it was a great siege. yall 3 guilds got killed in less than 60 minutes. it was an even 3v3 and thats the gist of it.
@Reformulates. My nigga, even you do not believe that but I'm glad you convinced yourself it was true even though you are factually incorrect on every front. We didnt die under 60 min either www.twitch.tv/videos/2257205011 Please do better and stop lying. Arsha didnt drop alone. If our alliance didnt go to Cal Arsha would not have been there. This isnt something I think its something I KNOW. Good talk
Not one tear was shed. Niggas are weird, I called it out and said once everyone dies the guilds left to take the big guilds spot shouldnt be weird. Thats all
I mean yall almost died, was a fun fight from a competitive standpoint and those type of fights win or lose is why I played the game, im not mad at the fight I just disliked why it came to be. but Arsha cant be number 1 without beating Sacred on their terms so go ahead and stop capping because Hell is hot lil nigga
@@skoomadrinkers thinking sound got a chance saying u could beat arsha is pure delusion but go on sound is like #6 imo like yall weren’t really a contender in the long haul
you did it to yourself. when you get kicked from as many guilds as you have, the issue is you not anyone else. also you must like people to shit talk you cos sebs be doing it all the time. You and quite a few other arsha members. Ive seen it. He does not have a high opinion of most of his members, you should see the shit he has said bout siah and that ninja person lol. why do you think youre the first one they kick to make room for people and keep getting kicked from his discord.
Just want to add if I didn't make it clear in the vod.
Yes I dislike Arsha and alot of what I said targeted them but the point of that all wasn't to kill any rep they had, trust me that shit is unshakeable and nobody cares. It's more so a warning for future guilds NOT to be like them. Don't be the guild that loses all backbone for 0 reason. Don't be a guild that tries to pick its fights when they claim to be at a position where nobody can beat em. Don't be the guild of hypocrites. All that does is further enforce politics.
There were MANY more screenshots I could have shown, and if I were a weirdo I'd have recorded audio of them saying even crazier shit in the context of my point. Don't be a bitch.
All of those screenshots were in ONE discord, I could have littered this 45 min vod with just evidence on how strange Arsha was but I HOPE I got my actual point across with just how they talk about Sacred just to throw all of that away in the name of spite. Don't be like that. Stick to your guns.
Bro i left arsha because of a friend and i refuse to go back because of the bitch shit.
sound forever 🤍
Sound will always be the best guild 💜💜💜 and will always be my home
W vid its been real KAi, we made a huge impact to the game.
I had a good time with everyone in sound for the short period of time I was there
yeah im sorry you werent there when we were deadass pushing content every saturday, that shit was peak.
Shameless plug🙄, those vods are still up wins and losses
Likewise
from curse to sound past the in game rivalry you were the only guild to rise from the ashes with us from T1’s into T4 and beyond nothing but respect. 👍
GGs, I hated you guys but you gave us a reason to play. I could never deny that
Now they can see the truth no more cope
tbh the truth isnt for anyone in the current siege scene to see its for the guilds that im hoping comes after when they all fade away, hopefully
All i heard u say was "Its only fine when I do it, but Poo Poo kaka when u do"
Nigga get the nut out of your ears and listen again
R.I.P. yall had a good run. forever My favorite guild
Arshas always been sacreds pet
in those screenshots it had the dates, it was quite a few months of them hating Sacred or ig pretend hating Sacred
@@newkid00 that was literally sound but okay
@@katana8455 sounds never been on sacreds side they’ve been good ally’s with nameless. Arshas always been a pet for sacred to piss on when they want to.
@newkid00
That dude is way too out of the loop he is here for no other reason but to hate I gotta respect his game
Sacreds pet meanwhile Arsha is the only guild fighting sacred in ow lol make it make sense yall jus love to yap
I dont know why all these people are bitching about t1s, we pulled less than 30 to those Nws and it was a FFA everytime. Dont complain when someone has the same amount of members other guilds would bring, use it to get better. Its what we did.
@@dezmadre8957 but you didn’t get better. You got slammed and disbanded 🤣🤣
@@Reformulates didnt you get played by an egirl that left you crying on the floor? and youre typing? youre a joke, everyone views you as a bitch.
We on Throne next?
nah lmao
Are you joining nameless or fully quitting?
quitting, my guild was in a great place so I had no need to blow it up just to join another guild I wasnt tired of being in Sound and leading I was tired of the BDO community
All this ranting about Arsha's behavior meanwhile yall were doing the same thing by coming down to T1s LOL
Arsha touched down on t1s before too.
The T1 crying makes 0 sense when that is the only place for consistent fights. Val was terrible and Cal would take everyone working together to beat Sacred including Arsha but guess what nobody including Arsha wants to do that. Val got stale VERY fast and you can tell with the way I stopped uploading those fights. If you watch the vods instead of dicksucking Arsha and trying to defend them you'd see it was simply not fun. It was rng with 20 min of running between the fights due to town spawns and it was the same guilds daily because every guild was on balenos every single day.
Plus nw system ass nobody pulled numbers because rewards arent worth it with uncapped content being dead.
T1 was the only fights because guilds that should have been T2+ were going down and holding each other's pockets for the easy win. Y'all did the same stuff as nameless/panic and your guild suffered because of it. Y'all lost your backbone staying on T1s/Balenos as long as you did.
Shame y'all are gone, but not at all surprising.
@Drachen651
This is nonsense.
Nameless and Panic and Sound alternated between Bal and Val. Val was always ass especially when its only one fort because if your flag is killed you essentially cannot fight. If more guilds placed outside of the same 4 everyday then itd be easier to convince ppl in guild to show but everyone dislikes the system or specifically Val so they only show to Balenos. These are all things i can easily prove. If you want evidence my discord is SupremeBlackKai. If you just wanna buy into your own way of thinking though, you do that and enjoy but you are factually incorrect.
Also we lost our backbone but anytime we did anything by ourselves we were successful like bro these are things thats documented, I have videos on the channel where Sound cooks on their own.
@@skoomadrinkers Literally don't care about Arsha at all. And I listened to the whole rant. You went on and on about Arsha and Sacred banding together to grief yalls siege. Yet meanwhile Sound is literally no different. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy in all the complaining you're doing. You didn't sit there and think for a second, "Huh, this must be what T1 guilds feel like when our siege alliance pulls up to T1 nws and siege." Instead you complained and moaned about two guilds that were stronger than yall doing exactly what yall do.
And saying Arsha touched down on T1s is completely irrelevant as
1. Yall were CONSTANTLY on T1s as they were not.
2. My point being made wasn't about anyone being on any certain tier. It was, yet again, about you complaining about them being somewhere they shouldn't be while simultaneously doing the same thing.
@Rozzalle
Yeah you didnt listen to me at all, that wasnt my complaint AT ALL
I LITERALLY said I am happy they banded together but you DID NOT LISTEN so listen again or please stfu. Not tryna be a dickhead but if you gon come at me come correct.
If Arsha and Sacred were allied every week I would not destroy my guild. That is a challenge Id want to overcome
I wish I recorded every siege we ever did but if you look at the siege history and the type of fights Sound put themselves in you'd see that we chased fights we had a major chance to lose.
Fighting those two guilds in itself isnt a problem its WHY it happened and it made me realize that the effort I put in isnt worth the touble because our community sucks. Has ZERO to do with anything else. How could I complain where guilds go when I stopped playing the game and stopped dictating where my guild went when I stopped playing? You were not listening for anything but a reason to respond negatively. Listen again and when you're done we can have a real discussion or you can ignore this and act like youre right and move on with your life
I'll missed you guys a lot. Godspeed
I love this video.
Incoming video
"ARSHA KILLS SOUND! WHO's NEXT???"
*Takes a clip and a ss out of context and then post a 4 min vod of great pushes while the commentary over it tries to refute any claims made or tries to swap the truth to some bs or just plays some music
But nah in all seriousness despite your gay ass guild and your gay ass highschool antics as a grown ass man
Im happy I had a guild to hate. Made the game more fun, appreciate you niggas being straight bozos, we were locked in🤞
@@skoomadrinkers I don’t hate you. & no that title is too lame. Video will be 🔥, but nah, content is content, bdo is bdo, i dont carry any of that bdo drama off bdo. I really fw this video and i hope even off bdo you have a blessed one
@@JustCallMeSiah imagine the content we could have gotten if everyone played the game to play.
Peace
@@JustCallMeSiahwhole ass lie. Small dick energy.
@Himiko_the_jedi
yeah lil bro dropped a vid filled with the EXACT same shit I said he would. He and Sebz are two ppl I would gladly hop in vc with but with Siah he just be trolling, he's a dent he cant hold a convo
Alright, let me address everything that was I both saw addressed in these comments, and things that were also not.
I STILL think the way Sacred ruins shit open world every day, poaches people from all guilds when they are clearly the pinnacle guild is a bit nonsense. You will find players who NEVER pvped ever open world/Siege to now showing up to everything when they join Sacred. Those are the people who will tell you the reason they dropped guild is because "they uninstalled" or "they quit the game for good" to just being more active than ever within 24 hours of joining a new guild. Hate is a strong word, I'm not gonna claim to HATE anyone from an online game because it's never been that serious to me. I will voice my frustrations on stream, or any discord about what I think about Sacred. I do think there is several people as well in that guild that aren't odd individuals & are chill for the most part.
As far as the history of this game goes, there isn't a SINGLE person on console BDO who has fought AGAINST Sacred as much as I have across the years (including open world, nw, siege) with the exception of maybe 1 other individual but name dropping isn't important. I have also been in that guild for a short time, at the time they were not allied with anyone to push very difficult fights. I have said everything I have said about Sacred in any discord, vc or directly to them. None of it has been secretive.
I made a guild that pulled top players from SEVERAL different guilds to avoid alliances completely when I left Flow because it got to a point Flow's alliance was way too strong, (Flow, Nameless, Panic, Gravedad, etc). The objective of this guild at the time was to pull all the players from these big guilds to compete against these guilds solo and it got to a point of insane strength. Sacreds old gm can confirm that they decided to drop alliances because of Red, as they saw multiple different people from there own guild joining Red & needed to make an action to bring everyone back. Someone from Red was offered an "officer" position in Sacred if they left Red and brought people with them. Those kids folded and went back to there own guild because at that point Sacred had dropped there TBM & Menace alliance. A lot of the players in Sacred are comfy because it provides guaranteed activity and participation at all levels of the game, however these people who previously NEVER contributed the following to activity for there other guilds. It's an odd thing, that I have yet to kinda wrap my head around.
I figured I would start there since you think all of a sudden Arsha is cool with Sacred, we aren't. Arsha is the only guild that fights against them and has made any attempts at arranging 1v1s with them. Sacred does not want to do 50 man nws on capped, and Arsha canno't GUARANTEE to pull 75 for nws on uncapped. That's basically the summary of it. Nobody is dodging one another, I just don't think either guild is looking to compromise on that following subject. While I do believe that Sacred running a 1v1 on capped nws on a reasonable size node/siege is a more even playing field, they can do whatever they want at the end of the day. Again, this isn't me saying they are dodging.
NWs: Prior to Arsha coming to Valencia permanently for NW's, we were the ONLY guild that dropped there 4 days in a row. You failed to mentioned that I told all of you (Nameless, Sound, Panic) to get the hell off of Valencia and come pvp against these kids. What did yall choose to do instead? 3 stack Valencia every day. At that time Arsha wasn't the way as it is now with attendance, and we were still down to go pvp on Calpheon those 4 days seeing if you guys were down to show up or not. Arsha didn't pull 75 or close to it whatsoever at the time so we came to Valencia instead. Since arrival, Arsha has absolutely DOMINATED Valencia node wars since the moment we have showed up. We have 1v1d Sound, we have 1v1d Nameless. Neither of the fights were close in terms of performance. We get all that. What you can't deny is you guys all CLAIMING you guys don't communicate with one another with where you are dropping for NWs and after 13 days STRAIGHT of dropping on Balenos, to come back on Valencia WITH NAMELESS. It is not coincidence. I have never stated that you guys coming up is fair for you guys, but your guild got the tail end of it because Nameless/Panic pushed it upon you. The 3 guilds in your alliance have massively lost nw participation because "the nw system is ass, it's too rng" all that nonsense, but Arsha's win rate on valencia is close to like 95%. No guild has individually taken the fort from Arsha in a 1v1. Arsha has taken the fort both from you guys in 1v1s that occured on Valencia against Sound & Nameless in dominant fashion, and when Arsha takes the fort we don't lose it. Even when Arsha owns the fort and it is Sound/Panic or Sound/Nameless together on NW it takes like 25+ minutes to even potentially flip the fort from us while you guys 2v1 our fort. The last time Sound and Panic dropped together and 2v1d our fort, both your guilds didn't even get participation for NW because of how bad the two of you guys lost. That's what put you guys on the 13 day Balenos hiatus fighting t1 guilds.
Siege: This subject will be better understood with perspective perhaps. Arsha has had the weakest alliance by far of the 3. Arsha's second strongest guild (Motion) was not even close in strength to the weakest guild in your alliance, no diss (Sound). Arsha including MYSELF has said Arsha & Sound should run a 2v2 against Nameless & Panic for fun because competing against your guys alliance resulted in stalemates on Valencia with all our t1 guilds or losses. For I think 5 weeks Arsha had gone back to try and win on valencia but the guild strength from the alliances could not come up on top with castle advantage being in place regardless of how well Arsha had played. It wasn't winnable, just a prolonged fight that resulted in stalemating. However, what we will acknowledge is the fact that you guys could have gone to Calpheon to fight Sacred the same way your video preaches about it, but instead your alliance chose to fight Arsha on Valencia against guilds that are truly t1 caliber, with the opposing side having 2 established Siege guilds, Arsha couldn't backpack that. You guys chose fighting WTTD, FRAG & MOTION instead of going to do what you said people are soft for because they won't fight Sacred.
IN REGARDS TO SIEGE WITH SACRED ON TERRITORY: THE LAST TIME Arsha came to Mediah to drop by itself, no allies. We helped Killing Sacrament, Darkhand and Ominous. As SOON as those guilds went down and it was JUST SACRED up on the map and I forget what guild they had in castle, YOU GUYS CHOSE to 2v1 Arsha before Sacred even went down. We even came to Sounds fort at one point that Siege and helped push Sacred off your fort because they got holes, for you guys in return to come 2v1 us after. NOW THIS SATURDAY, it was one of 2 options. 4v1 Sacred and kill them in 15-20 min max, then just get 3v1d by your alliance, or fight out something that was more fun. Arsha never came to Sacreds fort, Sacred never came to Arshas fort. Sacred won there side of the fight and Arsha fought against Sound & Panic together. Arsha held the pressure against both you guys and Panic the whole Siege. IMO Panic was a non factor that Siege, they felt headless. Overall, people are upset that we chose a fight that was more fun but need to understand, Arsha doesn't get fights on nw anymore, everyone on balenos fighting baby guilds. If we don't chase the fight, there is no fight for us. SIMPLE.
TLDR: I think you threw out a lot of accusations that were in many points valid, but in almost EVERY point hypocritical. Please remind yourself and the community that SACRED gave SOUND immunity in the previous NW system were Siege lock outs were a thing. They caught you guys and LET you guys survive the 10 minutes before killing you. Now I encourage you to see if Sacred would've done that for Arsha, Nameless or Panic. Threat and Sound were the only 2 guilds that were given immunity by Sacred to not lock them out or communicated where NOT to go so they don't run into Sacred.
Best of luck to you in whatever venture you pick up next, I think the hatred extending from when Arsha was a T1 guild from before I ever joined this guild until now is a little odd. There was fun fights that were presented to you on the table, I just wish you had taken them over your ego hatred towards T1 Arsha. There's no hatred from my end towards Sound in fact, I think you guys would have been in a much more fun spot had alliances shifted guilds around a bit. Think you seem to forget what guild started the sticking for Siege placements part. This started way before Sounds time.
Hopefully these new pick ups other guilds got will encourage some Valencia PVP or Open World PVP. 😇
Appreciate the contribution you brought to the game. 🤜
IM NOT READING ALL THAT
Sebz you are tryna save face, I am not the one.
I can hop in a vc with you, I will stream it and I will make a fool out of you just based on logic. Be like Siah and just rely on the fact that Arsha beats Sound and troll, all of this other nonsense you're talking is complete trash. Multiple points you've brought up is straight cap. Nigga told mfs to come like his comment so it can seem like you speaking facts but there's real evidence out there proving otherwise.
The hate isn't based on t1s my guy. Lmk if you wanna jump into a vc and chop it up instead of writing books in my comment section we can make a video my guy.
LMAO 😂
@@ParanoidxSniper💀
@@skoomadrinkers L
You forgot to mention that nameless, panic and sound drop on t1's and help eachother take nodes.
glad they disbanded
@@katana8455 i hope nameless and panic are next so other guilds can just fight and not worry about the nameless alliance teaming on t1's.
@@jpbutterworth8845 sameee
If you can find me evidence of us teaming on Balenos then I will actually have a real response to this because it sounds like yapping to me otherwise
@@skoomadrinkers what are u talking about ive witnessed it multiple times. One of yall takes a fort and the other 2 surround it fighting off whoever tries to take it. Yall salty cause ur zerg alliance can't fight the other top guilds and win. Yall got locked out of Valencia for a week by arsha and ran down to t1's and never went back
Sucks to see y'all go but youll be missed Sound
Gfs was fun
FRAG BABY
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damn this sucks
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Gfs
ggs
Panic Nameless Sound all have been dropping on T1s since the new NW changes. Making it difficult for any REAL T1 guild to build or have fun. Yet here you are tryna paint other guilds in a bad light. The game is so stale, that guilds are literally jus fishing for fights. Its not that deep. That whole alliance cares too much about being ego driven, than actually enjoying the game and tryna pvp. Wish you the best tho bro. Didnt have to decapitate an entire guild for your own personal views.
There's alot i can address here but this is what i will say. How can guilds grow and what are guilds growing to with the current NW system? Say that Panic, Nameless and Sound never touched Bal
How does they system currently help smaller guilds perform on the next level? (siege)
@@skoomadrinkers Bro T1s is suppose to be for newer and actual small guilds. Theres alot that can come from them being down there without having to worry about fighting siege guilds, that have way more gear to better optimize and way more experience in largescale pvp. These guilds can grow by recruiting new players to the game or even work together somewhere down the line and merge into bigger guilds so they can move up and actually experience siege. Rn there is no chance in hell this happens, cuz they are discouraged by seeing the bigger and more experienced guilds dropping there everyday. Gatekeeping on T1s is disgusting behavior for suppose siege guilds but yall dont even see it that way.
So
Arsha back in the day was on T1s. The T1s that actually helped build your guild to siege because the system was similar. When the t1 guilds complained they told everyone to get better, it was even numbers.
But thats fine lets ignore the hypocrisy, its been a long time right?
The current system sucks. Sound pulled less than 30 to nws after two weeks of it coming out. We should just deal with it right because the t1 guilds doesnt deserve to have to fight us is still your take right?
Ok so we even pulled up to Val with less numbers and 1v1d Arsha. Arsha predictably won not only bc they are stronger but because they also had a huge number advantage and that demoralized my guild because Arsha went straight to talking shit because at the time they thought we teamed em. So then we actually teamed em for a few days because of the motion bs blah blah blah our numbers never improved. it got to the point where I stopped doing nws all together because I couldnt compete with anyone on Val bc we had no numbers and so why would I stop my guild from going to Bal when we pulled less than 30.
Even went to Val with 30 ppl once and Panic was there too with 30. The goal was to atleast take the fort once to have forts swap back and forth but we didnt have the manpower.
Now despite everything I said here I PERSONALLY agree. I dont think its good to balenos with siege guilds but Sound had the choice to either go to balenos where numbers wouldnt be an issue or fight yall every single day because it was only you who placed.
My final question to you is you keep bringing up Sound and our alliance going to bal but why didnt you bring up the guilds who can pull 50 but still go to balenos?
You think guilds like Threat (who you worked with saturday) cant pull 50? They tried Val ONE time and lost and never went back
@@skoomadrinkers Nah I agree Threat and Omn and conviction dont belong there either. You keep saying Arsha went to T1, that was OG Arsha and well before my time. Its also odd you say you cant pull more than 30 members but by the time of siege yall have like 70-90 every siege.The Arsha today isnt the same guild that you hated. This is why most the shit you say about this guild is wild to me. We have had the weakest alliance in forever and through all that even at times drop alone on nodes. knowing we wud get a fight win or lose due to yall or sacred alliance being there.
@joestats7612
No the arsha of now is worse than the Arsha before but you dont know the details bc I havent shown shit because it was never about being "morally" right over you guys it was about beating you but trust me your leadership is full of clowns. Period. Thats it though we can agree to disagree. the old arsha was just dumb, the new arsha is actually fucking weird
Damn
I don't like to get into these things, but I'll say something for everyone's clarification. If Sound disappears, it's not because of Arsha, Sacred or any other guild, it's because of Sound and no one else. I mean, I was a member of this guild, there are very cool people in it, but, but, not everyone is like that, and this last group of people within Sound make erratic decisions that directly affect the guild. Losing good players that today we know are scarce
Going back to the subject, they removed many active members of the guild, for not understanding their orders or having Lag in the Nw or Sigue, without taking the trouble to see what happened with them, and there will be those who say that it is not like that, I have videos that prove what I say, many of those who were expelled were regular players, so they had a good GS and contributed their bit, in addition to practically participating in
all NW and segue. If you get rid of these players, your guild is dead, it's that simple.
They didn't have the vision to realize this, they didn't put a stop to the members who were making these foolish decisions.
Today, BDO is at its worst, because veteran players quit due to lack of content, quit or move to PC. New players have a hard time leveling up and are not constant or disciplined.
I do not seek to create controversy with my comment, I only express a reality, perhaps they do not see it or accept it, but that is how they began and it could not end well.
I loved Sound in particular very much, and I always tried to give the best of myself, I have affection and respect for my former colleagues, but some of its members killed it, and allowed it... but no way, "the way is like this"
A free tip to all GMs and Guild Officers.
If you don't value your members, each one of them and you don't realize that they are trying to contribute to improve your project, in the end sooner rather than later you will see how the project dies.
Bro I'm not reading that. I'm a yugioh player
@@GabeDude-c6v ha ha ha
Geranni, this is propaganda
anyone kick from sound was for good reason. very solid leadership that made sure to keep each other in check to make sure all was fair.
y todavia sigues con tus pendejadas por eso te hicimos kick de gremio
I'm not sure what youre talking about with this "we went to T1s for fights" nonsense. Everyone knows you guilds like you Panic and Nameless went down to hold spots and NOT fight. At NO POINT did any of you do anything else. At least Arsha and Sacred stayed on their tiers during the week. You moved down to avoid Ls, and now you're disbanded. Biggest L ever 😂
Cap
The ending was just a cope session for you g, glad yall leaving
Also Kai remember this g y'all had a good run.
Absolutely nothing to cope on nigga we dead.
@@Glorificationn I already know
@@skoomadrinkers Yall arent dead tho. Your literally killing the guild on your own accord. You could have past the torch.
@joestats7612
Nobody that deserves the spot wants the reigns they are sick of the game or sick of leading
Sound = All noise. Good riddance 😅.
Sacred showed you guys your place. Blame Arsha and Sacred to cover up your own incompetence. Stop making excuses, Nameless and Panic carried you guys far too long. Now gtfo here😅
Braindead take. Plenty of vods proving otherwise and there are sieges where we dropped alone and won and held that bitch on multiple occasions.
Not an opinion its a fact
Kai your insane and completely wrong on why we dropped
Idk who you are so idk if its worth really discussing it.
There's things I KNOW vs things I think. I'll leave it at that.
@@skoomadrinkers we dropped for a fight that was all tbh
If you cant tell how your GM is then you are cooked, there's a reason your team up happened AFTER Nameless had their meeting leaked.
Why would Sebz, who is on record plenty of times claiming to not want to work with Sacred and always be against Sacred, why would he team up with them knowing the risk of losing members? (like you guys did) There are plenty of fights for Arsha in siege. Nameless has said they are fine with a rematch with the 1v1. Even to the point where we'd delay the Cal push if you guys fought em again.
@@skoomadrinkers have you ever heard of the term the enemy of my enemy is my friend? works the same way. arsha was placed alone, it wouldve been them solo, threat and sacred together vs yall 3. makes no sense to not work together to make content and kill the ego yall float on. it was a great siege. yall 3 guilds got killed in less than 60 minutes. it was an even 3v3 and thats the gist of it.
@Reformulates.
My nigga, even you do not believe that but I'm glad you convinced yourself it was true even though you are factually incorrect on every front.
We didnt die under 60 min either
www.twitch.tv/videos/2257205011
Please do better and stop lying.
Arsha didnt drop alone. If our alliance didnt go to Cal Arsha would not have been there. This isnt something I think its something I KNOW.
Good talk
nvr heard a grown man cry so much . ...
Not one tear was shed. Niggas are weird, I called it out and said once everyone dies the guilds left to take the big guilds spot shouldnt be weird. Thats all
ARSHA #1 😂😂😂😂😂🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Sacred died too or just Sound?
@@skoomadrinkers sound panic nameless had no chance idk what they were thinking
I mean yall almost died, was a fun fight from a competitive standpoint and those type of fights win or lose is why I played the game, im not mad at the fight I just disliked why it came to be.
but Arsha cant be number 1 without beating Sacred on their terms so go ahead and stop capping because Hell is hot lil nigga
@@skoomadrinkers thinking sound got a chance saying u could beat arsha is pure delusion but go on sound is like #6 imo like yall weren’t really a contender in the long haul
@@iiTzYaBoiKris im starting to think your a tad bit dumb, like single digit IQ. You cannot read contextually at all
all im gonna say is Butch was right she pushed you to do better and you stabbed her in the back.
This is cap but go off
That is literally butch kai lmfaoooo
@@enviously4819 WOW LMFAO
How do you feel about cucking apolly with gxsh???
you did it to yourself. when you get kicked from as many guilds as you have, the issue is you not anyone else. also you must like people to shit talk you cos sebs be doing it all the time. You and quite a few other arsha members. Ive seen it. He does not have a high opinion of most of his members, you should see the shit he has said bout siah and that ninja person lol. why do you think youre the first one they kick to make room for people and keep getting kicked from his discord.