Chopin Prelude no. 20 in C minor: A PERFECT POEM - Analysis

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  • @jackwilkinson2254
    @jackwilkinson2254 Рік тому +19

    Should the last note in the right hand in bar 3 not be an E natural? There’s no accidental to revert it back after the accidental on the 2nd right hand note?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  Рік тому +24

      Right, this is apparently an issue of uncertainty, most recordings and other edition for example my Wiener Urtext treat it as a misprint and have a flat sign (in parenthesis) there. But you can hear the occasional C major in some recordings. I prefer C minor, but my mention of it didn't make the final cut so good that you commented!

    • @weepingscorpion8739
      @weepingscorpion8739 Рік тому +1

      I was going to ask the same thing. Thanks. I see @sonatasecrets points but I hear it better as E natural, as it being following by D - G twice after that is a nice modulation to G major in bar 4 before crashing back to C minor in bar 5.

    • @MrRicksStudio
      @MrRicksStudio Рік тому +11

      Chopin corrected it to E flat in some students’ copies.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  Рік тому +4

      Yeah, there are arguments for both versions.

    • @MrRicksStudio
      @MrRicksStudio Рік тому +9

      @@SonataSecrets Did some UA-cam sleuthing because I was too lazy to pull out my 78s. Cortot (Descombes pupil) plays E flat, Koczalski (Mikuli pupil) plays E natural. Can't recall if Pachmann recorded this prelude - his would be interesting since he studied with Mme. Rubio, and her scores were often marked up...Between these three, I would say Cortot is more the scholar. In his printed edition of the Preludes, he adds a flat and states that it was corrected with pencil by Chopin in Jane Stirling's copy. I would believe her scores to be reliable, especially since she was with him till death, practically. Final thoughts, perhaps?

  • @tomlabooks3263
    @tomlabooks3263 11 місяців тому +6

    As an amateur pianist, I had never heard this one before, it’s so gorgeous … thank you for making me discover it!!!!

  • @kevingmccann8552
    @kevingmccann8552 Рік тому +30

    This is a really great analysis of the harmony . I don't think there is anything on UA-cam as valuable as your tutorials. I hope you can continue these great contributions

    • @eqon1234
      @eqon1234 Рік тому

      I would agree! I haven't found anything on UA-cam as insightful and easy to understand as his analysis! Thank you Henrik!

  • @throatwobblermangrove7508
    @throatwobblermangrove7508 10 місяців тому +3

    Heard a lot of performances of this piece, but yours is the most beautiful.

  • @michaelthomheadley
    @michaelthomheadley Рік тому +3

    I hope you never stop making these! They are so helpful for a budding piano performer like myself. And hilarious emoticons

  • @jtbasener8740
    @jtbasener8740 Рік тому +5

    I love that these videos always possess such a thorough analysis of not just the theory, but also how the theory affects the emotion. It is really inspiring; thank you, my friend.

  • @orchestrain88keys
    @orchestrain88keys 10 місяців тому +3

    Great analysis!
    Looking forward to an in-depth analysis of Chopin prelude no. 24.

  • @più_lento_28_13
    @più_lento_28_13 Рік тому +4

    Love when you do some Chopin, Henrik !

  • @margarethansen7480
    @margarethansen7480 Рік тому +2

    Perfect analysis for this beautiful and strong Chopin’s Prelude, wrich harmonie was very well explaned in your vídeo ❤
    I didn’t find someone who teaches and create lessons like you in UA-cam.Thanks a lot and continue please doing that

  • @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries
    @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries Рік тому +2

    Wonderful analysis as expected. Thank you, Henrik.

  • @magicyandereaxe
    @magicyandereaxe Рік тому +7

    I love this insight, I'll use it to help me shape this prelude even more for my recital!

  • @darkside1928
    @darkside1928 Рік тому +2

    Another incredible video and analysis. I have a new appreciation for this piece thanks to you! Keep up the amazing work!!

  • @franticfabulous5967
    @franticfabulous5967 Рік тому +1

    Great video! One of Chopin's shortest and easiest pieces but one of my very favorites. So tragic and somber.

  • @Phaseish
    @Phaseish Рік тому +1

  • @Sirlene-et9ut
    @Sirlene-et9ut 5 місяців тому +1

    Amazing prelude! And I love your analysis!
    Congratulations!❤

  • @Henri.d.Olivoir
    @Henri.d.Olivoir Рік тому +3

    More Chopin, I am excited!

  • @Renzo-Santos
    @Renzo-Santos 29 днів тому

    i am going to play this piece in my piano recital somewhat next 1 week and i was having a hard time playing this piece i didn't know how the dynamics work. Now that i watched this it gave me an idea how to play this so Thank you for your advice.

  • @acompyt
    @acompyt Рік тому +5

    Amazing video as always! Would you please consider for a larder video doing one of his Scherzo's or his 4th Ballade? It would be an amazing watch! Have an amazing day!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  Рік тому +6

      Yeah, those big pieces are high up on the list to do something about in a future chapter of the channel. We'll see.

    • @acompyt
      @acompyt Рік тому

      @@SonataSecrets Cannot wait to see what you come up with!

  • @sx99cornell
    @sx99cornell 5 місяців тому +1

    it's rarely the case that when you slow down a video it feels better, 0.75 speed for this piece is perfect

    • @22alex
      @22alex 5 місяців тому

      i agree that he may have played it just a bit too quickly, rushing instead of soaking in the harmonies that Chopin wouldve wanted us to hear

  • @patricwalker3551
    @patricwalker3551 Рік тому

    Here we go! Loved your last one. Very excited for this.

  • @lykeioschoolprojects9806
    @lykeioschoolprojects9806 Рік тому

    Really great analysis Henrik! Keep 'em coming!!

  • @peterchan6082
    @peterchan6082 6 місяців тому +1

    The RH E note that appears in the end of the 3rd bar is an E natural rather than E-flat.
    It just doesn't sound right to me with an E-flat there.

  • @Eindebaas
    @Eindebaas Рік тому

    Very inspiring, I truly appreciate the effort you put into these.

  • @akfkml1747
    @akfkml1747 Рік тому

    hello, there is a piece that i wanted you to analyse for a long time. it is chopin's nocturne op 48 no 2. you analysed the first piece in the opus, and the two after it. so i would be really happy to see your interpretation of the nocturne, both musically and analytically :)

  • @trevrockgw
    @trevrockgw Рік тому

    Love it Henrik! Thank you!

  • @alexyork9917
    @alexyork9917 6 місяців тому

    Interesting that you describe the 2nd chord in bar 6 (French augmented sixth) as an Ab7 with a flat 5 whereas I would think it makes more sense to think of it as a D7 (in 2nd inversion) with a flat 5. Firstly, it is notated the way I describe with an Ab being the flat 5 of a D7 rather than spelling the D natural as an Ebb (in an Ab7 flat 5) but also it makes more sense to think of it as an altered D7 being the dominant to the G which comes after.

  • @LiquidTurbo
    @LiquidTurbo Місяць тому

    Your analysis is simply amazing! I feel bad that I got to learn so much for free! You are like a quality piano teacher with a deep knowledge and it feels like you are in my living room walking me through this Op 28 No 20 piece. Thank you! Can you please please analyze the newly unearthed Chopin Waltz in 2024?

  • @thewordbtrue2461
    @thewordbtrue2461 16 днів тому

    Just a brief observation of my ability in playing piano.
    I have noted, that I can play chords most effectively.
    The above piece I've almost mastered 👏🏻😊!
    Yes, it is short - but very profound.
    And other pieces that have Arpeggios, that I truly want to play, I find difficult.
    As With Tristesse, (simplied version) fingers operating differently- I'm still working on that! Two months.
    Do you have any suggestions?
    And why do I find chords more comfortable and Arpeggios, challenging?
    Please reply at your convenience.
    And thanks for this excellent tutorial 😊
    Thank you!
    Trisha

  • @jean.marion
    @jean.marion Рік тому +2

    This is SO funny to me. I'm composing a song in C minor and wanted to know what Chopin did with the key. So just last night, I played this very song, and here it is today! lol. Also loved the phrase: "never anything else than what it always was, and it was always going to end up..." just perfect. Thanks again for your happy teaching face. 😇

  • @andrews68
    @andrews68 Рік тому

    I remember watching a wwii documentary called wings of the Luftwaffe and they had an orchestral version of this, along w Ride of the Valkyrie, as some of the main theme music. I enjoy playing this on piano: short and easy but sounds impressive.

  • @musterionsurly
    @musterionsurly 3 місяці тому

    very well done, thankyou.

  • @josantonioalcantara
    @josantonioalcantara Рік тому

    Great video, I really love this prelude. I find that all of them are small gems.
    In the repetition I don’t like to use the una corda pedal, but I get the point. The reason is that i feel you loose the character of the piece with it and when you did it, once more I corroborated it. I think you can still get a different color without that pedal. It is a matter of cushion well your chords and you get a different effect. The character of the piece is maestuoso with the opposite feeling of triumph

  • @evanever
    @evanever Рік тому

    I must have been playing this right as you uploaded.

  • @lucillereilly
    @lucillereilly 10 місяців тому

    Hold it! I am looking at beats 2 and 4 in measure 3 on what looks like an old printing of this wonderful piece. Beat 2 shows E natural in the melody, yet beat 4,showing E in the same octave, is played as Eb. I am surprised that the natural sign isn’t being observed for all of measure 3. There aren’t any Ebs elsewhere in measure 3 to cancel the E natural. I played this piece many years ago and know it well. The minor beat 4 sounds heavy and jarring. This is the fourth video I have heard just now that does this same thing in measure 3. Please explain! Thank you.

  • @nicklass7075
    @nicklass7075 Рік тому

    Could you do analysis of Chopin's Waltz in a minor B. 150

  • @dj-assass1n629
    @dj-assass1n629 Рік тому

    Great upload! any chance of you going over op25 no7? thanks

  • @wladypimentel
    @wladypimentel 7 місяців тому

    Love this one. Thank you.

  • @andrews68
    @andrews68 Рік тому

    Sorry I’m confused … isn’t bar 3 beat 4 still e natural ie C major chord ? 🤔 I play C major there …

  • @Milan_Smidt
    @Milan_Smidt Місяць тому

    I much prefer it without the reality check. Let's stay in the contemplation, let's dream away and forget the harsh reality. Just like Chopin himself is only a memory of beauty now, and not a small sick man. But other than that, great dissection of the piece. Very insightful.

  • @that7650
    @that7650 4 місяці тому +1

    My favorite performance of this price is ezzio bosso’s.

  • @grumpybumblebee6663
    @grumpybumblebee6663 Рік тому

    I love your videos although I understand a fraction of them 😅. Could you make a series on the basics of the theory? I would even buy it!

  • @djtomt
    @djtomt Рік тому

    Inspiring! :)

  • @markcbeaumont4670
    @markcbeaumont4670 Рік тому

    Yoi are aware some editions have E natural at the end of measure 3

  • @SuperWimsky
    @SuperWimsky Рік тому

    Why is the sound quality so bad....?😪 I love this piece...however a little bit slower wouldn't harm the emotions.

  • @chuckbosio2924
    @chuckbosio2924 Рік тому +1

    To my irritation, I hear Barry Manilow. I think he borrowed some of the music from this piece and wailed endlessly about someone named Mandy.

    • @davetye
      @davetye 2 місяці тому

      Could it be Magic?

  • @normandbeaudoin7130
    @normandbeaudoin7130 Рік тому

    Allo better put your pedal out shortly at each melodic
    " word" to permit the auditor to clearly follw the shape Chopin gave to the sentence. Bellart

  • @doranselwyn8608
    @doranselwyn8608 7 днів тому

    I think people overdo the crescendo at the end.

  • @terrylast624
    @terrylast624 7 місяців тому +1

    Little fast.

  • @Chris_Sheridan
    @Chris_Sheridan 11 місяців тому

    Great piece by Chopin but played in a very bland and boring fashion - too slow - sounds like a monotonous plodding.

    • @58Rexx
      @58Rexx 20 днів тому

      absurda critica, el video es muy instructivo.