High Elf Legendary Lords DLC Speculation (Eltharion, Alith Anar, etc.) | Total War: Warhammer 2
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Heads up, didn't have my 6th edition book, so Prince Imrik will be covered in a stand alone video for those of you wondering where he is ;)
AH~ lorehammer- my favourite hammer :D
What are your thoughts on alistare the white lion as a general? He was put in-game thanks to make a wish. Does he exist in the lore, is there someone related?
Alistair is I think is the closest to the Hero character Korhil Captain of the White Lions, but in TT Korhil was only hero who could be used as bodyguard for your mages/generals. So Alistair is memento to that, just my opinion not anything like know what CA was thinking...
My own Campaing I would always use him as White Lions are pretty good infantry and having upkeep reduction on them is nice with Alistair.
Make a wish?
it was a foundation i think
Korhil is a fucking beast. Dude wields two great/long axes like they're hand axes.
Everqueen will probably release as a DLC, like King and Warlord with additional respective units along with them. For Everqueen, it would most prominently be Sisters of Avelorn, with additions of great concepts like Songsmiths
...maybe they will give us the Everqueen and Hellebron in one go.
that's what i'm thinking, DontKnow
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it's separate.. sadly..unless Hellebron would be first as FLC, then Everqueen as the DLC set
Aize I kinda expect Alith Anar, the shadow warriors are the biggest gap in the roster.
lore wise, it is the Everqueen that connects closer to both Teclis and Tyrion. Tyrion being her chosen champion and Teclis she gave the Moon staff of Lileath to. Everqueen's Sister of Averlorn/Handmaidens is at the same prominence if not bigger gap in the roster as well. But Everqueen seems to be a certain Legendary Lady that NEEDS to be in the map of Ulthuan, just as the Fey Enchantress is for Bretonnia.
I would expect for them to release Alith Anar along with Finubar the Pheonix King.
Alith is such a badass in lore! Just read the sundering,you will understand
very... very true ;)
I fucking love Caradryan. I think it was so cool how he got to be the Incarnate of Fire
i just want him... ON HIS MOUNT!
Korhil literally strangled a chaos-corrupted white lion to death? And I crack open a beer to celebrate my bravery when I kill a fucking spider.
one time i prevented myself from sharting, that's all i got going for me
The Horn of Isha & the Banner of Averlorn could be implemented in campaign similarly to how the Banner of Da Immortalz was for Grimgor, as a starting campaign item.
Alastar the White Lion. Ive got him in my Lothern mortal empires campaign. Dude personally killed ALL of the wood elves for me. A tru savage.
i LOVE that character.. he's so rad!~
And he even has a unique item and skill tree! Had to give him 8 units of white lions right away :p now CA just needs to give us those white lion chariots!
Definately hope for Alith Anar! They already have a template in the Druchii Shades and crossbow lords for the shadow warriors and Alith. All they’d need is to replace the repeaters with longbows.
spot on dude.. that and you KNOW they're going to add like the other stalker lords
With the crapy situation we're living in my country I just want to thank you for making me think in another things and escape for some minutes from reality.
i don't think Victor is in the US, clorox, but yes, definitely tragic =/
More!!! Love F / D LC speculation
When you were talking about Alith Anar, you forgot one lord in particular, Josef Bugman for the Dwarfs.
He would give an interesting way to play a Dwarf Army. Since he's known for being a leader of Dwarf Rangers, he should really get a bunch of bonuses for Rangers, and not just in missile damage, but melee, leadership, and speed as well.
Eltharion being present in the Old World, preemptively hunting Greenskin Waaghs before they can set sail for Ulthuan, is a good idea. At the moment the only presence the High Elves have outside of Ulthuan is at the Fortress of Dawn and Citadel of Dusk and, in the TWW2 campaign, Teclis's expedition. Having him has access to some basic magic and riding a gryphon makes him quite different from a typical Prince so he certainly adds something to the game.
Alith is also a good choice since he could start in Naggaroth (perhaps even starting as a horde) and he can be released with Shadow Warriors and, perhaps, a Shadow Warrior themed hero or lord. Also maybe he can be Vlad mark II: everyone in his army gets vanguard deployment :D
I want Alarielle to be added or, more specifically, I want Sisters of Averlorn and Handmaiden's of the Everqueen to be added as I think High Elves would benefit from some elite, armour piercing archers, but the problem with her is she's on Ulthuan so adding her doesn't add a particularly different start to Tyrion. At least she herself is a significantly different character to Tyrion.
Both Caradryan and Korhil would be great additions, ideally as legendary heroes, but so far CA haven't been keen on adding legendary heroes beyond the Green Knight.
yeah i agree man.. i'd love to see the sisters of avelorn because, as you said, HE DESPERATELY need some ranged AP outside of the bolt thrower
Agreed. That said, CA could deviate a little from tabletop and make Shadow Warriors ranged AP. But I'd prefer to see Sisters of Averlorn added because they're such a cool unit (actually I want both...)
OMG YES more Lorehammer. Man... I cant get enough of your lore videos.. I always try to suck all your juicy lore in :3
Im mostly hoping for Thanquol... I think he would be one of the best LL for TWW2.. But I also want that they fill up the roster of the High Elves. Make it possible that the Nobles/Princes can ride the flame- frostheard phoenixes. Sisters of Avalorn, High Elves Shadow Warriors.
I love this game...
dude it's SO good.. i can't stop.. i kept flip flopping between divinity and TW last night!
Heard part of this yesterday now I get to here the rest lovely. Props to my boy Spart
lil teaser trailer ;)
Thanks for dropping a hot lore hammer on me this morning, helpin me get through this shift
oh i'll lore all over you, jorah!
I really hope they add Elf Griffon mounts. Griffons would be a nice middle ground between dragons and eagles. Good AP, mass, and attack, but squishier and no breath attack. Plus the High Elf griffons are so colorful.
whole heartedly agree man.. Great Eagles are nice and all, but they have zero staying power in my opinion
Korhil sounds like a high elf Beowulf. Badass
they say.... you have monsters here?
Korhil (I'm not sure of spelling) the white lion character is already in the game. When playing as the high elves, I had this guy as a Lord. He gives benefits to white lion units and has the lions cloak which gives him a 5 ward save etc.
Right, Alistair! But it's not Korhil because he doesn't use TWO axes! :D
ItalianSpartacus ah my mistake XD cheers man
oh no worries dude! :)
YES I've been waiting for Korhil to get some spotlight!
I reckon your idea about eltharion on the old world will be spot on, I see can them trying to put tw:w2 races in the old world because there's defo going to be skavenblight.
This makes me think that they'll end up putting out lokir felheart reaving somewhere near the border princes or something perhaps starting with a black ark!
No idea how they'll get lizardmen there though
oh yeah man, skavenblight will prob be an ikkit claw launch and throt the unclean up by troll country/kislev!
That would be sweet, I dunno how they'll get lizardmen there! They'll have to fluff it like they did for kroq'gar and Teclis. It would be sweet if they had Oxyotl or Tiktaq’to following skaven to the old world and hunting them. Or maybe lord kroak travels there to re-establish the geomantic web.
a stalking bolt thrower that can get speed buffs? you gotta be kidding me?
NEVER!
Doubt it would happen, but I'd love to see a 'Shadow Warriors' faction DLC with Alith Anar functioning as a horde mechanic inside Nagaroth
I think we'd just see him as the lord of Nagarythe!
ItalianSpartacus nagarythe seems like a really good starting point for a LL, they start at war with a dark elf faction that already controls half their province.
Alith Anar the shadow king
the dark elf slayer
i just love how in my game as tyrion averlorn has a -30 aversion
hahahah i know, right?
If I'm not mistaken the diplomacy traits are randomized? Kinda gets annoying but meh :P
N they are not.
Mortato Doesnthaveasurname between factions of the same race, it very much so seems like that. Keep restarting a campaign and you'll see their stance towards you change.
N I thought it was consistent, in every game I play tiranoc, saphery and averlorn always hate me until I complete the third ritual.
You would think Lileath would've made a Moonsword & Moonshield, since she made a Moonbow & Moonstaff for Alith Anar & Teclis respectively
well if it's comparable to the moonbow/staff.. then they'd be just insane hahaha.
ItalianSpartacus I learned something interesting playing through my Naggarond campaign. While the Armour of Midnight is not listed in Malekith's skill tree, you can still get it through a quest that is given. It doesn't involve a quest battle or anything either, it just asks that you take like 8000 captives. So it makes me wonder if the same applies for Teclis with the Moonstaff of Lilieath, albeit I doubt it since the Warcrown is his casting item.
There is already a White Lion unique Lord in-game already. Has Killing Blow and Lion cloak to.
right but he's not korhiL! he's not dual wielding axes!
nice video I would think that the shadow king would have an increase to espionage ability and just screwing with other factions but have a decreased level of intrigue at the high elf court (in the campain)
I have to say that I would have preferred to see more people like Manfred like the slanns with all their magic lores as in multiplayer you generally only take 4 spells at max as you don't have enough winds to cast everything and I feel they have missed some very interesting spell combos with the lores.
it's true.. i mean you run out of winds SO fast and i like the notion of the shadow king giving a passive bonus to the whole intrigue system
Think Manticore mounts was always part of Chaos roster - I think what they added was feral manticores
Everytime I hear about how Finubar doesn't participate in battle it triggers the shit out of me. God damn you Games Workshop! Make your fucking Phoenix King badass!
I think the only race who always had an awesome king are the dwarfs
Franz Prueller and the empire, Karl Franz would rule the meta if he had some health regen.
Ever thought of making a video about the End Times lore ?? id love it.
i was actually thinking of doing one for each race.. like here's how each race "ended up" in the end times lore
awsome cant wait
would you prefer it race by race or chronological?
just in any order that makes sense i mean i dont know the lore of the end times so any preferance that i would suggest wouldent make sense lore wise.
I really hope that White Lions become mounts for lords in the game. I want my lords riding horse sized lions
white lion chariots! bring them to me!
I want them physically riding one of the Lions like a horse. We have lords that ride raptors and Carnosaurs and in the lore some White Lions have actual White Lions as companions/pets in battle, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to be mounts due to their size.
Not sure if they rode them in the lore but chuck it I'd be down with some lion riders
GlamdringandOrcrist They could pull a chariot but I doubt they would let people ride them. White lions are supposed to be super proud tgat won't let anyone near them so I doubt they would let people ride them
Now what i really want to see are the Lothern Skycutters, now that would be tricky to implement!
Shadow King!!! Shadow King !!!Shadow King !!! Shadow King!!!
Great video! I'm a huge fan of the High Elves. I am hoping for the Sisters of Avelorn, Handmaidens, and the Everqueen theme.
But I also like Eltharion the Grim.
WE NEED THEM man we NEED them! HE have zero AP ranged attacks outside of the bolt thrower!
YEA! They are the Phoenix Guard of PEW! PEW!
I WANT ALL OF THESE
hopefully in time! :D
@ItalianSpartacus Did you already start a Co-op Campaigne with the High Elves? I would love to see, how two High Elven plyers will rule the Warhammer World. ;)
Again a very cool video, and I hope they will offer new Lords very soon.
Just wondering why you have only the 1 $ option on patreon... Do you use PayPal?
*EDIT* Sorry, just saw I can pick the money myself. ;)
Patrick! thank you very much for signing up on Patreon :)
the $1 thing i didn't set actually, so Patreon is just trying to run wild! hahah
As for the head to head campaign, we'll be doing dark elves vs. lizardmen! but we do plan on doing a co-op campaign on legendary. i feel like it'd be pretty awesome
Is there an other way to stay in touch with you beside here and your Patreon page?
DISCORD!
Can you put a link up on your Patreon page, please? ;)
Bruh ubare awesome!! And I am also a fellow high elf player!!!
BFF, MANUEL! BEST FRIENDS FOREVEWR!
Hey Italian, I just discovered your videos and I'm enjoying them A LOT, I would also like to read more about the lore, where can I start? I read that they re-edited a lot of stuff and a good place to start is the End Times collection? but, what about all the previous lore? Regards!
+- - Ahoy!! Glad you're enjoying the content man. More than happy to get you more deeply invested in the Lore.
I would NOT start with end times. It'll be far too confusing. I actually did a video on just this. Here you go! :) ua-cam.com/video/lFQafmIN7x8/v-deo.html
NICE! LOL, it's exactly what I need! thank you very much, oh, and thumbs up for HE love!
what are the odds they give ariel both of her lores
it could happen, they did it for manny, but they also kind of went hogwild on the other lords, so it's hard ot say!
Much more likely that she'll get a mix just like Morathi/Mazdamundi/Teclis got.
Darko Mihajlovski it hope she gets both her lores, Morathi has the worst spells from two lores.
Just like LL for Empire, replaceable for Tyrion etc
I do hope we get some extra LLords to play with other than the classic 2-3...sometimes 4....Anarielle, Alith Anar, Eltharion...at least those 3..and let Alastar be in multiplayer...maybe add some minor llords to the other factions like a chariot lord for tiranoc and a horse lord of Elyrion...Loremaster lord for saphery?...What does cothique even have?.....I dont think any units or special things besides boats come from cothique...
if you start up a multiplayer campaign, it has a different selection process.
it shows the faction, and the lord.. so you KNOW they're going to add multiple lords per faction within one race. For instance: Malekith is Naggarond of the Dark Elves.. So maybe they'll add Malus Darkblade as either Hag Graef, or maybe under Naggarond- we'll see!
Cothique has bombbbbbb navy!
Too bad we'll never see that navy.... What i meant was i know they will add more lords...but i want to see more than the usual 3-4 lords per faction when they could do so much more....Imrik would be the best caledor lord but i hate the fact Caledor/sapphery just cant help but be giant ass holes and attack everyone around them....bastards.
ITALIAN Do you know of the hinted LL for game 3?
no!?
Well i can send you a screenshot of it if you want :)) Its for the epilouge for the lizardmen. i dont know for the other factions.
Do Lizardmen next please tho present the Heros as well cause there's only 2 real LLs left in Tetto'eko and Tehenhuain. The rest are all Heroes which I'm hoping that they do justice as heroes like Chakax, Oxyotl, Gor-Rok, and Tiktaq'to.
Are you like me and think White Lions should be treated like fast anti large hammerers with less Weapon Strength and armor/durability but still quite potent.
i kind of like their current meta, but i think they flop too easily.. they don't output the amount of damage for what they are supposed to be.. they just die so fast
can do! :)
ItalianSpartacus Yeah I think they were weakened to make Swordmasters better when they easily could have found a better way to implement all three Elf infrantries. I would have done it like this make Swordmasters 1k or a little lower exactly with a bronze shield high melee attack, good melee defense, their current weapon strength, but only 75 armor basically slow forsaken. They'd beat Greatswords cause of their in melee stats but they still die so out of melee they are a little easier to shut down but in it still very potent. White Lions into ap, decent speed melee grinders they won't beat most other elite grind units but they will punish everything they fight due to good melee attack and defence and minor physical resistance cause of the lion cloaks.
Nakai \o/
Do you think we will get verminlords as the third generic lord? They are the only other lord choice in the TT.
i'm not sure since we can't start as big bird in the chaos campaign and he's DAMN strong
But he's not in their roster. Verminlords are an actual lord choice for the skaven. Plus, they didn't give us THAT big Bird but Norsca got a different one.
ptavangar Verminlords were an end times addition, and in my opinion giving skaven deamon Princes would ruin the faction and make it feel like a shit version of a deamon army.
Mortato Doesnthaveasurname - No they actually have been in the army book for several editions now. Everyone is familiar with them being in the end times because it's when they played a major role. But actually they've been around for a long time.
Mannfred looks like Pit Bull but dead! Lmfao! I'm done!
Will you do these for all factions
the only one left is lizardmen! :D the rest are posted though!
The High Elf griffion better be more hawk like instead of eagle like in the Empire
couldn't agree more my dude!
It kinda annoys me how they handled white lions in this. They feel really lackluster, and more like a precursor to sword masters than their equal...
What about Finubar?
good video
danke, mein freund
ItalianSpartacus Sempre Felice
(Sorry if i wrote it wrong down)
You doing a lore video about the origins of 'snow' and it's impact on the realms and factions of California? Lol
yeah, here's the short and narrow of it:
The infrastructure of California is not built for half an inch of rain let alone a quarter inch of snow. After the first snowfall, we all begin to eat each other, even if we're mid-lunch. By the day's end, California has fallen.
hahahaha