Prison Time For Poke Crimes | Castle Super Beast 265 Clip
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@BestTeaMaker
The "so what're you in for?" conversation is gonna be real fun for this guy
"I'm sorry I did not recognize you, my leige"
"Wait, YOU were the guy who i bought the 5IV Salemance from, thanks bro i won regionals with that"
This poor nerd having to hang out with legit yakuza and criminals. Poor guy
@@johnrivers3813 to be fair, Japan just jails everyone for fun, so the real criminal population in their jails might not even be that high lmao
Bro was arrested for pokemon trafficking hes literally team rocket in real life
Its insane because ALL game modding is considered a crime in Japan, with fines up to 5 million yen, up to 5 years of prison time or both, under the "Unfair Competition Prevention Law"
Its not just a pokemon thing, ANY game company can do this, which is horrible
Capcom has been rather vocal about the fact they don't tolerate mods, to the point of installing Denuvo or other anti-piracy software unto their games once enough time's passed since release.
The only Japanese company that seems ok with modding is SEGA actually. There was that whole story with how Christian Whitehead got hired by them.
_Oh wow!_ No wonder all of the Japanese game companies keep going after modders. I thought that it was boardroom execs being out of touch and thinking that they could actually criminalize people who love their games more than the execs wanted them to.
Turns out that's _ACTUALLY_ a crime in Japan!
@@hyperon_ion9423its not even just mods because fair use is not a thing in japan period so reaction content and parodies all count as not allowed in japan, but news converage is fine
@@sdbzfan1 and yet other copyright laws are shockingly lenient there, doujinshi are basically profitable/sellable fan manga.
@@sdbzfan1No wonder vtuber LPers (specifically from Japan) seem so insanely fake/manufactured and are all attached to huge idol companies. The industry is highly locked down from independent coverage.
Correction, Pat: Nintendo would shoot someone in the face for playing a Nintendo game that isn't the most recent possible main series game, while using their paid wifi service, and enjoying Nintendo Club membership perks. Anything before that, whether it be months or years or decades old, your life is forfeit.
But they make Zelda! They can’t be a stupid mess of a company! Stop having criticisms of the people responsible for my childhood!!!!
/s in case it isn’t obvious
Dude got nicked by Officer Jenny
I wish
@@charlesplante I second this.
9:22 Fuck Around, Find Out: World Championship Edition
Prepare to Die Edition
Vietnam is technically a communist country, so I can understand it, lol. I would not exactly be opposed to this sentence being applied to the Wallstreet and war profiteer crooks over here in the west to be honest >_>
& Knuckles
Nintendo saw WOTC hire the Pinkertons and were like "Bitch please watch this"
Im so glad that pat mentioned the spider man lawsuit over a kids grave I was literally about type that and he beat me to the punch.
That might still be the most heartbreaking story I've ever heard related to a company.
I'm not even mad or jaded about it. Just...hurt.
@@leithaziz2716 I looked it up and found it on the spider man reddit and people were saying its justified to because of a slippery slope or some other bullshit. Its insane.
The thing about Vietnamese law is that the defendant is allowed to pay back the money in return for reduced penalties but that money is just fucking gone so she's fucked
Good.
Which is also insane, because WTF did she spend 3% of the countries GDP on? V bucks?
Don't do the poke crime if you can't do the poke time
7:40 "Out of the context of where the mascot should be, the farther away we are the more weirded out I am." Darlington "Woolie" Madden
Seeing a Disney princess at Disney world, to be expected. Seeing a Disney princess at a kids birthday party, weird. Seeing a Disney princess on the highway, creepy. Seeing a Disney princess at the strip club, to be expected.
it's the selling for money that was The Problem, nobody is gonna care if you mod pokemon normally
going to jail for it is still insane mind you
It's illegal across the board in japan regardless of sale or not
@@Vanity0666 it's technically illegal but generally nobody cares as long as you don't try to profit off of it
Meanwhile Kenshins mangaka is walking around free as a bird after getting caught with CP
@@jfp4life oh he managed to wiggle out of that? fuck that guy
Modding is one thing, but I think it’s a different story when that person is actually profiting on the mods. But regardless, it’s not just a Pokémon or Nintendo thing, most companies in Japan just don’t really tolerate this kind of stuff.
I don't think Woolie realizes how big pokemon is, it is not just the biggest franchise in Japan but the entire world. So Nintendo will do anything they are legally able to do keep the copyright of the biggest IP safe. They are watching and waiting building a case for the moment that you either try to make money on it or try to advertise it. They are absolutely trying to scare people into not doing it just like when they failed to capture the scummy pirating/emulator guy that had a dude named Bowser as a fall guy. That guy got away with it and ran off to some tropical island to live in luxury with his millions.
A reminder that Japan's criminal justice system is, allegedly, corrupt
Being accused of a crime is often all the proof the court needs
There's a documentary around about it, but the cliff notes are: you can be held up to 28 days without being charged, you can be interrogated 16 hrs a day, and I think 98% of people confess. So basically, being accused means you're getting tortured if they think you did it and they'll ignore evidence to the contrary if/when they get that confession to maintain their conviction record because they're cops.
Don't they just detain and bully you into a confession for crimes you don't commit?
@sefflikejeff1917 "Japan has a conviction rate of 99.8%... the Japanese judicial system is known as "hostage justice system."
Pauley Walnuts: "So he was an interior decorator?"
Everyone keep in mind that one million yen is less than 7,000 USD
My first thought was “a million yen?! That’s gotta be like $40 bucks!”
@@malikoniousjoe Kiryu and Nishiki fighting on Millenium Tower over 20 dollars and a coupon for Smile Burger.
@@RanmyakuIchi “There can only be one 15% OFF Kiryu-san”
“Yeah…”
[ *BAD FORTUNE FLOWER* ] intensifies
I remember one of the villain from Pirates of the Caribbeans being this psychopathic businessman, and his philosophy to his success can be summed up like this:
“If you give people the products they want, then they will not object to all the horrible things you do to them.”
And I can’t help but feel that Nintendo is kinda like that villain, especially with how Nintendo fans will defend their precious corporation’s horrible ways.
11:05 I love how we're all 'fuck billionaires' until someone actually does something substantial and uncomfortable. Pocketing a chunk of your own country's gdp via financial crimes is like a goddamn misdemeanor compared to what Jeff Bezos or the Kochs have done and *are doing*
At the end of the day, money doesn't corrupt. It just reveals a person's true nature.
It makes people uncomfortable? I thought that was the feel-good story to make up for the pokemon guy story.
@leithaziz2716 yeah absolute power doesn't corrupt shit, that Greek dude had no clue what he was talking about
Me listening to this video while playing Pokérogue and suddenly siren 🚨 sounds come from outside the house
fighting foodons mentioned 💀
Woolie be digging deep into all the "mons" series for this one xD
Telefang is the deepest
@@charlesplante i got what felt like 100s of hours into "Pokemon" Jade, and i had so little idea what was going on i wouldn't be surprised if i only got 10% through it.
the fighting foodons cut though
@@StrumstarHammer that's the one that reactivated brain cells. Monster Rancher, some know some don't for sure for Fighting Foodons? Buried deep into the bowels of childhood that some weren't even born yet could find
Japan has a lot of laws that would be seen as utterly draconian anywhere else, for example, in Japan, telling the truth is not a defense against a defamation suit, if you say something negative about a company, they can sue you even if it is entirely the truth, and then there's all the issues with their justice system that phoenix wright was lampooning.
So the whole Spider-Man grave situation actually is related to something Pat said before, which is when he talked about the interview with the lawyer from I think Pokemon/Nintendo about how they find out about stuff. In that for the most part, Disney/Marvel/etc don't really do anything when it comes to protecting their IP (considering all the bootleg characters at Nyc or the stuff on etsy) but when they are TOLD about something they do it. Which is probably what happened with the Spider-Man grave unfortunately.
Vietnam court incredibly based
Socialist country :)
Could you imagine if we actually prosecuted financial crimes in the west? Like at least a little? Well it would probably just collapse more than 3% our gdp, but the rule of law instead of finanical oligarchy sure would be nice and worth it.
3% was 12 billion dollars? In Vietnam??? HOW?!?!
Vietnam is really poor due to decades of mismanagement, to be fair their economy has done much better after instituting free market reforms but they lost a lot of time trying to figure out how to make a centraly planned economy work. Here's a thought experiment, Vietnam reunited 49 years ago in 1975 look up their GDP per capita and then compare it to the GDP per Capita of South Korea in 2002, 49 years after the Korean war. Then compare it to the GDP per capita of Germany, Japan and Italy in 1994, 49 years after WWII. Then multiply those figures by Vietnam's population to see what their economy could have been.
@@bruceparker1970 7?
@@bruceparker1970That's not a fair comparison at all. You are comparing a country that was left war torn after the Vietnam war to West Germany and Japan, which were literal EMPIRES before they fell in world war 2, to a country that was a third world colony for most of its modern existence. And they were very actively getting support from Western block powers during their reformation too, a level of support Vietnam most definitely didn't have. South Korea was the only example that you used that made any modicum of sense and they too received tons of support from USA specifically
Obviously he was charging for it so he was going to be dinged eventually, but it is WILD to put some in jail especially for pokemon. Hacked pokemon is actively less cheating than like, seeing your opponents moves or team building espionage. There isnt even a difference between a hacked pokemon and a fully built pokemon besides time. Its like if they dinged you for doing an exploit to skip the grind for a character in a battle pass. There is no like, EV grinding on pokemon showdown for example lmao. Bizarre for it to even really be unfair in a legal sense at all
I'm not saying we gotta go THAT far but if she did that in America, she'd get a few months and a movie deal 😂
My understanding is this crosses over into unfair competition crimes due to the nature of competitive pokemon battling as a form of professional competition (with cash prizes), but it's still pretty insane.
Can any dev just contrive their game into a supposed competitive format and then use that as an excuse to threaten modders/hackers etc.?
Its especially wild in the case of pokemon. The only difference is time. There is no difference between a hacked fully EVed pokemon and a legit fully EVed pokemon in practice. It's basically if the skill diff was grinding out a character in a battle pass
@@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080i mean its still cheating
Now i should start with do i think he deserves jail, heck no
Yes people always use the example of Im a working adult i dont have time to do something tedious, they should also understand that anything that involves a time sink isnt for everyone simply the people that have the time, you think kids think its fair that they dont have money and need to rely on their parents, everything is fair
@@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080it's even less time than before.
A lot of resources to get the perfect Pokémon are achievable via cash. Doing event raids gets you rare item drops like exp candies, ability changing items and bottle caps (an item you need to maximize stats so you don't need to breed perfect Pokémon anymore).
The only thing you need to soft reset for are trick room legendary Pokémon, since all you need is a 0 speed ditto to get the non legendary ones.
I heard people just mod the items in, and get the Pokémon legit.
@@sdbzfan1 Its not cheating in a competitive sense, no. Showdown, for example, doesnt have a gameplay loop about grinding EVs. In terms of competitive fairness, there is no difference. It is cheating in general, yes, but for example if you mod a skin in a fighting game, that is cheating in terms of modding the game, but not cheating as in doing behavior that affects the fairness of the competition
Edit: if it was cheating, then by that metric the comp ladder in the actual games would be void due to rental teams.
It’s a fuckin children’s game though… This is like arresting a person over cheating at hopscotch, or more aptly telling children how to cheat at hopscotch for $2. This whole thing is fucking stupid
nah, vietnam was based for that i think
She puts the "capital" in "capital punishment"!
"Your honor........ Pokemon..."
"DEATH."
i remember back in the day fake pokemon cards were EVERYWHERE :o . you could tell which ones were real though because the fake ones were darker blue on the back
It's morally obligated to steal from Nintendo
Real talk: The methods to get pokemon at all, let alone in a competitive format, is super expensive thanks to how underhanded GF/TPC handles it's DLC and other methods.
Look up any of the videos that goes in-depth with how much it cost to make a VGC team to compete and it's ugly as fuck.
This is what they don't want you to know too.
Yeah it's absolutely miserable to make even one viable Mon
Cheating in multiplayer games should be a felony offense punishable by no less than 20 years, and no more than 50 years in prison.
All Switch 2 will include a gun in case you try to play a game not released in your region yet or detect any kind of hardware modification.
Based Vietnam.
Say what you will of the AddOn situation in XIV. Yoshi P has yet to threaten my knees for the use of the "What is this song?" addon.
Prison time for my little guy crimes...
Thank god this terrifying criminal lord was taken down
This is an apt reminder that we live in a cyberpunk distopia. At least they didn't send the yakuza after him holy shit
I'm not sure cyberpunk is the right word. Not enough cyber, not enough punk.
"Mundane Pre-Apocalypse," maybe.
It's just regular boring dystopia, all the negatives with none of the cool aesthetics.
Sounds more like the Vietnamese government is sentencing her to capital punishment because they're embarrassed that their administrators are incompetent enough to not notice her scamming them for so long. It's seems purely spiteful.
I thought there was gonna be a pokemon villains rank
So do simple palette swaps get a life sentence?
If that palette swap makes it a shiny and then you go and sell those shinnies... yes?
So if the Declaration of Independence gets modified and sold as a legit historical artifact, what's really at stake here? Is it tying concepts together through a single item of symbolic relevance, the principle of what the object means that gets besmirched? This incident with Nintendo is more about products and their business, but I wonder about the deeper nature of items presenting symbolic representations of society. Important to protect, but what could be the punishment fitting the crime enough to repel continued attempts for the example I provided? Perhaps jail time at those proportions for modding Pokémon is too extreme, but would it be extreme enough for something else placed at equal value?
copyright laws are very strict in Japan it applies to all media.
If you live in Japan and want to have fun with Nintendo IP Nin-dont do it
you can have fun just don't try to make money off of it
All i know is competitive Pokemon sounds like if you had to go find a small asian man, find the one with the best genes, then train him in the ways of the dark hado just to make Ryu's grandpa instead of just buying the game and practicing being enough. Just imagine having to go recreate Ryu because you need a version that isnt being taken over by the dark hado. Shit is actually crazy. But i guess Pokemon is closer to a weird card game than a fighting game.
Yeah that analogy falls flat on its face when you remember Pokemon is an rpg with randomized stats and all that this dude was doing was "randomizing" them into the ideal spread of stats and natures.
Doing that on your own manually can take hours and hours of tedious breeding to get the right natures and "I.V.s" and then level grinding them in a specific way to get the "E.V." boosts, and doing all that another five times to get a full team of six.
It's pretty much mandatory to do this too because "imperfect" pokemon that you just catch and train normally through the game are worse than these "perfect" ones to an absurd degree to the point you'll get curbstomped online if the opponent takes the game serious in any way.
Does Woolie think that the pinkertons are anything but a joke in the states?
Based vietnam
So uh how do we get our billionaires to set up shop in Vietnam, be a shame if the same thing happened to them
POKEMON
It's serious business.
Damn Pat isn’t watching the hit new fallout series on Amazon prime 😔
RAAAAAAA!!!!! FIGHTING FOODONS METIONEDDDDDD!!!!! WTF EVEN IS A FRIED RICERRRRRR
"...his house looked like shit."
Wow, Nintendo. Really fuckin cool. You’re such a cool children’s company.
10:55 oh so just like in America. Only ours is called the Federal Reserve.
Re that end part, there's a quip trying to express itself in my brain; some pun with capital punishment and capitalism, can't quite get it to fully form. Anyone feel like taking a swing?
So the fabled Nintendo ninjas were just cops all along. Lol.
Nintendo would boil their fans alive in oil if they could.
thats Japan!
Going to jail for modding games is insane. Even understanding that the guy was making profit out of it, 5 years is just too much. At most they should just make him pay a certain amount for his "crimes" and let him go home.
But considering this is related to Nintendo, I guess it could have gone even worse.
Woolie, my duderaino.
If someone was bootlegging Monster Rancher stuff to the tune of MILLIONS OF YEN, _yeah_ , he's going to get a knock on the door and some celebratory wristbands.
One million Japanese Yen are worth $6,467.26. I get having to give all the money he made back and like a month in jail would be reasonable years is fucking ridiculous.
@@shadowrobot7708 All the money plus a fine, yeah. A month sounds solid. A year+? No, no, screw off.
Not disputing that part, Woolz is just insane if he thinks this would slide in ANY part of the world.
Woolie and Pat are almost wearing the same outfit and yet Woolie looks so much better just with those piercings and that necklace
WOTC WISHES it could do this...
Dont give them ideas. ESPECIALLY after Baldurs Gate 3
@TrojanGamer10 The only reason they aren't is because they can't. They probably called and went "They're modding our game, stop them!" and all they heard was "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *Click*"
If you want bootleg pokemon cards just buy them from china like everyone else.
UA-cam doesn't allow talk about Vietnam type crimes. Very interesting.
Pokemon GO to jail
[ Scotland / Nexusmods / Starfield / Kotaku ] moment...
RMT people are sweaty right now
Like.
The problem with making illegal Pokémon is that if traded the damn thing is now in your game ecosystem and you cannot get rid of it easily without ruining something. Their trading system can’t detect impossible Pokémons for now as it can’t tell apart from say a promotion Pokémon. So in this scenario anyone making fake Pokémon is actively attacking your game, so of course as a company you would respond to it as a hacker attack. Fake Pokémon can also ruin the competition integrity as if something slips through the cracks and it’s a Pokémon with additional stats or any cheating benefits your entire event can go down the drain. That is a ton of money and reputation on the line for a seemly “innocent” action like this.
Nintendo think's they should be allowed to punish modders like their south asian landlords or someshit. Wild
On one hand, don't be stupid and sell modded shit. On the other, *prison time*?? Really??
I always find it interesting that the western people think profiting off someone else's property is okay when it comes to video games. Not just this Pokemon case, but it seems they do not understand why hacking in online games is punishable.
There's a big difference between "punishable" and "literally locked away in jail for years."
I'm not for the idea of putting a price-tag behind a mod, but I want to remind you the guy is BEING PUT IN JAIL.
Punishing with a bill/fine would have been enough.
“Hacking in online games” fuckin what? The guy was using software to create competitive pokemon. A thing literally everybody does. The process for actually legitimately creating competitive level pokemon sucks and nobody does it.
The real issue here should not have been that part, it should have been the fact the guy was scamming people by selling them off as though he was legitimately creating them. And even then that punishment for the crime here is absurdly lopsided and makes no sense.
you lost me at "western people"
lol yeah i saw the story about the vietnamese billionaire woman as well. part of me wonders whether she'd have got that same sentence if she was a man, like would they have been like ok but he's one of us, send him to white collar prison, but whatever, that''s an insane amount of money to steal from taxpayers and i'm not upset about the sentence even though i don't really approve of the death penalty :o
With how hard Competitive Pokémon battling is getting pushed (to E-sports levels) I can see why they are cracking down on that, this is them going to someone that’s giving out cheat mods or modded controllers for SF6 and selling them at tournaments. I would have gone with a Fine but they wanted to make an example out of this guy. like people are seeing getting arrested for mods and stopping there to not see what he was doing the modding for.
I'll just be the yokai's advocate here and say that they have a justifiable reason for this, as their economy relies alot on video games, and people making garbage bootleg video games nearly crashed the *entire* market. its why they invented the Nintendo seal of approval.
at the very least police actually can be held accountable for their actions and have a code of conduct. hired goons don't have moral reservations or "lawful use of force".
I don't understand whay you are so surprised. It's hacking a program and getting money for it. What about botters? Same thing and everyone cheered. Same thing.
It isn’t though?
The process for legitimately creating competitively viable pokemon fucking sucks and nobody does it. Nearly everyone i know who’s played competitive pokémon has used software to create the pokemon they want to use and transferred them into their games. This has been pretty normalized for decades, and if you aren’t doing this you’re probably just doing showdown which skips this step and lets you just make your pokemon profiles yourself straight-up.
Yes the guy should not have been selling them, that is a very low level scam and should be punished accordingly. But I get the feeling that if the guy had been making and selling these pokemon legitimately, he wouldn’t be in fucking prison. Nintendo clearly was upset by the use of software, not by the money.
Do you play pokémon? Because if you did, you would know this is absolutely ridiculous.
@@ElvenSonic I'm not defending the game or the company. If someone wants to mod their game it's his right, even if the game's company says otherwise. I'm just saying that selling hacks was always illegal and it was persecuted. So it's not "just because he moded Pokemon game".
god man every time woolie says sugar shack i think of the strip club i used to live down the road from by the same name
It's especially extreme since, most of the time, people hack pokemon to remove the tedium of IV and EV grinding.
The hacked mons are functionally legal and no different from something that could be acquired legitimately.
modding pokemon is one thing. SELLING SAID MODDED POKEMON IS ANOTHER THING. whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is one thing but once you start selling it to others is when you get all eyes on you. most likely this guy is being made an example of due to the nature of pokemon tournys in japan.
Yeah. The sentence is crazy to me, but at the same time, surely that guy knew the entire time pulling a hustle like that in Japan was gonna get the feds on you like Al Capone
what is wrong with you?