FRIEDMAN VS ORANGE - Friedman BE Mini VS Orange Micro Dark

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  • Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
  • Shootout comparing the Friedman BE Mini Head VS Orange Micro Dark. Both amps were ran into a V30 loaded cab.
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    🔈Orange Micro Dark (Amazon)
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    🎸Time-codes🎸:
    0:00 - 1 High Gain
    0:39 - 2 Pushed with a Tubescreamer
    1:18 - 3 Mid Push Crunch
    1:56 - 4 Modern Brit Gain
    2:29 - 5 Cleans with FX in Loop
    3:04 - Dirty Sounds - Friedman BE Mini
    4:25 - Dirty Sounds - Orange Micro Dark
    5:06 - More Videos
    Signal Chain (see links below):
    Gibson Les Paul Tribute T (Dirty) / Fender Tele 50s Mod (Cleans)
    Friedman BE Mini Head / Orange Micro Dark
    Harley Benton 212V (V30s)
    Line 6 PODXT (FX Loop Only)
    Shure SM57 (close) + SE Ribbon Mics (Room)
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    🔈Orange Micro Dark (Amazon)
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    🔈Orange PPC212V Cab (Amazon):
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    Ibanez TS Mini (Amazon US)
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    #Friedman #Orange #FriedmanVsOrange

КОМЕНТАРІ • 89

  • @dualactionriffdevice
    @dualactionriffdevice 2 роки тому +79

    You have successfully made all other comparison videos obsolete.
    No BS overproduced channel intros, no BS flapping of the jaws. Actual side by side comparisons that are easily distinguishable.
    Congratulations and thank you for the No nonsense, educational videos.

  • @DinoJr.686
    @DinoJr.686 2 роки тому +66

    The Friedman is definitely tighter, but the tube screamer really makes the orange competitive. Overall I prefer the Orange tone more. Great video!

  • @3th1k
    @3th1k 2 роки тому +39

    Once again those Orange cleans are breathtaking.

  • @gaddebeli
    @gaddebeli 2 роки тому +47

    Orange all the way. On moments Friedman sounded like those toy Marshall "stacks".

    • @davidminick3587
      @davidminick3587 2 роки тому

      Perfect comparison. I was thinking the same thing.

    • @USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER
      @USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER Рік тому +2

      Class D power amps man. Cant stand the things 😭

    • @stringlocker
      @stringlocker Рік тому +1

      What do you want they build them with cell phone parts.

  • @kenk4555
    @kenk4555 2 роки тому +12

    I’m not even looking for a new amp but I still love watching your vs videos.

  • @ransombaggins9301
    @ransombaggins9301 Рік тому +12

    I prefer the Orange by a long shot for my needs. The cleans are also surprisingly good on the Micro Dark, and with that effects loop, the possibilities are limitless. Great comparison as always!

    • @KingCrimson82
      @KingCrimson82 Рік тому

      Yeah the cleans are sublime, try a western through it absolute surprise.

  • @kmw5100
    @kmw5100 2 роки тому +5

    Wow. What a punch they packed into that micro dark. I'm impressed.

  • @choru69
    @choru69 2 роки тому +9

    Hey man, just want to thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos. I got a micro dark mainly because of your vids. Cant wait to play on it.

  • @BrindiSea
    @BrindiSea 2 роки тому +22

    One look at the Friedman crooked logo and it already tells you the winner of this shootout. Pretty sad that they couldn’t even bother to line it up correctly.

  • @Wesleyd8
    @Wesleyd8 2 роки тому +2

    your videos on the Micro Dark made me get one, love your vids!

  • @cozyshack5011
    @cozyshack5011 2 роки тому +2

    When I first started playing guitar it baffled me that nobody has made a gear comparison channel in this format. You are a pioneer my friend! Love your videos! 🔥❤️👍

  • @elihue_redneckreview
    @elihue_redneckreview 2 роки тому +1

    I have the Terror Stamp and a Friedman BE-OD Deluxe. It's a winning combination of delicious dirt tones, and when stacking an EHX Soul Food - the cascading levels of gain are absolutely amazing!! This combination of pedals, with an EHX Tone Tattoo in the effects loop and pushing a Fender Bassbreaker 2x12 cabinet is Sonic Bliss. It's absolutely perfect for recording multiple tracks simultaneously. Track 1) from the speaker emulated line out, 2) an sm-57 slightly offset on the cone of one speaker, 3) another sm-57 on center cone of other speaker, 4) a condenser room mic about 4' away from the cabinet. Mixing the tracks with various panning produces such a full stereo sound! I hope this gives someone some inspiration to experiment and find the tones that fit your needs and budget! Thanks for another excellent video, Toby!

  • @mikaashton2152
    @mikaashton2152 2 роки тому +3

    Ive got an orange micro dark and its a beast.... Also super versatile. I love it . The cab sim output to record is also of high quality.

  • @TheZotman5
    @TheZotman5 2 роки тому +8

    The Orange just has a "fattnes" to it that really fills the space to my ears.

    • @ravendemo4980
      @ravendemo4980 2 роки тому

      Yeah, was thinking the same thing. There’s a punch there.

  • @KratosIsSick
    @KratosIsSick 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent demo.

  • @BrokenRealityYT
    @BrokenRealityYT 9 місяців тому +2

    Really considering buying a Micro Dark as a decent backup rig, I have a big custom rack that I currently use but if I'm playing a smaller show or my rack has problems this would come in handy for sure.

  • @RoyRamone955
    @RoyRamone955 2 роки тому +5

    I’m an orange guy so I can’t be taken too seriously. Present head is a orange TH30 with orange 2x12 cab. That said, the initial start of the video had me going Friedman. Then you added the tube screamer and it was all orange for me. Great video though. I find it tough to make decisions listening thru a cell phone. Add my 55 year old ears and all the hearing damage over the years and my opinion is useless. Sorry to waste your time LOL

  • @aaronsg71
    @aaronsg71 2 роки тому +1

    Both have their mojo, they both would sound great left and right in a mix🤘🏻

  • @johnstitt2615
    @johnstitt2615 2 місяці тому +1

    A proper demo video. Thank you.

  • @TheDeedeeFiles
    @TheDeedeeFiles 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome comparison

  • @ryansta
    @ryansta Рік тому +1

    Best demo I've watched and heard and recently i've watched alot on both these very two Amps, either would be great to own with parts where they sound almost identical but veering towards Orange

  • @chrisfit
    @chrisfit 2 роки тому +1

    Great comparison!!!

  • @alexandrvetelkin5196
    @alexandrvetelkin5196 2 роки тому +7

    Orange best ) especially Clean

  • @iceleow8885
    @iceleow8885 2 роки тому

    A growling orange! We jammed at a studio with 2 orange amps which i did not pay attention to. That type of punchy notes( from recording on our phones) delivered from digging on the EAD strings are wow!

  • @oskarwroniewicz
    @oskarwroniewicz 2 роки тому +15

    Friedman sounds pretty disappointing, Orange better by far

  • @CeciShaw
    @CeciShaw Рік тому +1

    The Orange for sure, Mine has seen many gigs going into a 4x12 V30 with a Zakk OD in the front. IT RIPS live.

  • @aj81ds
    @aj81ds 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video and love your comparisons. I just got the Micro Dark and was thinking of getting the BE Mini to compare but this video will do. I like the Mirco Dark with the stock tube, slight breakup and a Wampler Tumnus Deluxe for my Punk Rock/Pop Punk tones. I also just ordered a 5751 Gold Pin tube and a 12AU7 Gold Pin tube to check out b/c I heard those tubes will output less gain and possibly be a better platform for pedals.

  • @heggy_69
    @heggy_69 2 роки тому +1

    I love how the friedmans crunch is with the gain at 0

  • @watchfan6180
    @watchfan6180 2 роки тому +1

    So surprise on how good Orange is clean the metal stuff high gain on Orange was a given. Shame Friedman clean sounds bad, Marshal sound is amazing

  • @riffrigerator666
    @riffrigerator666 4 місяці тому +2

    The Orange sounds way better in my opinion. No contest here

  • @Grahm1993
    @Grahm1993 2 роки тому +1

    Yasss

  • @karmatologist
    @karmatologist 2 роки тому +2

    Friedman sounds better to me in clip 1 and 4. Preferred the Orange on clips 2, 3 and 5. Considering size and cost, you can’t beat the Orange. Especially in the used market.

  • @joonapuurunen5602
    @joonapuurunen5602 2 роки тому +2

    Imo the Friedman is better with high gain but Orange has far better cleans.

  • @CorrosionAudio
    @CorrosionAudio 2 роки тому +1

    Clip 5 - 'Paint Your Target' by Fightstar?

  • @elkcibdej
    @elkcibdej 2 роки тому +1

    Micro dark + ts is absolutely killer

  • @andreaberteotti5999
    @andreaberteotti5999 Місяць тому +1

    ho una domanda: x collegarlo ad un sistema digitale ho bisogno di un carico (es .torpedo captor x)?do i need a load box as captor x for pluggin with s/retirn in a hx stomp?

  • @TobyKBTY
    @TobyKBTY 2 роки тому +1

    Friedman sounds incredible BUT given how the Orange doesn't sound too far and it's much cheaper, that's a solid deal right there.

  • @Terry3Gs
    @Terry3Gs 2 роки тому +8

    I've always said that orange has missed out on the market by taking that dark & putting a 3 eq section in it !! I had one & it was very versatile.

    • @TinkerToneworks
      @TinkerToneworks 2 роки тому +2

      they did... in the dual dark head.

    • @jarrusjenkins
      @jarrusjenkins 2 роки тому

      @@TinkerToneworks yeah but it was a much larger head and had 2 channels, one of which still had the same "shape" control instead of the full 3 band eq.
      I think that's the appeal, simple 1 channel high gain lunch box head....

    • @TinkerToneworks
      @TinkerToneworks 2 роки тому

      @@jarrusjenkins it's literally the exact same gain structure as the rockerverb so just get a rockerverb or the OR15/Jim Root Terror. only difference is the EQ.

    • @jarrusjenkins
      @jarrusjenkins 2 роки тому

      @@TinkerToneworks maybe so, but like I said.... not in a lunch box head

  • @church751
    @church751 2 роки тому +1

    I can't hear the amps for the sound of the crooked friedman logo triggering my OCD

  • @whereandbackagain7059
    @whereandbackagain7059 9 місяців тому +1

    The Orange is a lot more versatile if you want to dial in anything other than high gain.

  • @palesama
    @palesama Рік тому +1

    How would you compare these to those 3 Joyo Bantamp Xl (meteor/jackman/zombie II) that you have?

    • @TobysGuitarGearDemos
      @TobysGuitarGearDemos  Рік тому +1

      Sorry for late reply I've been away. I think the Joyos are similar to the Micro Dark in terms of how much I like them (a lot). Friedman is literally just one sound but if you like it it's great. I think I prefer the Joyos + Micro Darks over the Friedman. I may do i giant micro head shootout in the future If I can get hold of Hotones etc. 👍

    • @palesama
      @palesama Рік тому

      @@TobysGuitarGearDemos thanks for responding. No problem. I'll be expectant and waiting for that video. 👍

  • @DKprojects9
    @DKprojects9 2 роки тому +4

    Both a definitely one trick pony amps, especially the Friedman. I used to have the micro dark and still think its the better choice between the two, as its gain sounds very good and it can get great cleans but the clean headroom is very limited hence one trick pony status. Also I personally get annoyed over time with the one tone knob, which is also why I ended up selling my TH30.

  • @brickbreaker8148
    @brickbreaker8148 2 роки тому +1

    What is the price difference?There ya go.

  • @guylaforce4266
    @guylaforce4266 Рік тому +1

    I prefer the openness of the Orange.

  • @aj81ds
    @aj81ds 2 роки тому +1

    BTW, what FX were you using for the cleans?

    • @TobysGuitarGearDemos
      @TobysGuitarGearDemos  2 роки тому

      Line 6 POD XT in Fx loop with cavern verb, analog delay + chorus 👍

  • @wesjeanblanc8385
    @wesjeanblanc8385 2 роки тому +2

    Orange for the win!

  • @con3ie593
    @con3ie593 2 роки тому

    Thanks! Orange sounds better to me.

  • @Alfredo78666
    @Alfredo78666 Рік тому +1

    Not the bees... Not the orange bees!

  • @ravendemo4980
    @ravendemo4980 2 роки тому

    Always thought Friedman was more on the fuzzy side to be honest.

  • @PeedyJ
    @PeedyJ 26 днів тому +1

    Orange amp good.

  • @DanielDavis730
    @DanielDavis730 2 місяці тому

    All these lunchbox amps all sound like transistor

  • @zildojunior4760
    @zildojunior4760 Рік тому +1

    Orange rules!

  • @cooltunesmadeeasy
    @cooltunesmadeeasy 2 роки тому +1

    I Prefer the be for drive
    Orange for clean...Be ..not good for clean..ok after seeing the end of the video the orange was tweaked better to my ear for drive...so Orange is ny choice..lol

  • @Turbo-D
    @Turbo-D 2 роки тому +1

    the orange kicks ass but the mini rectifier is not beatable in this regard

    • @riffrigerator666
      @riffrigerator666 4 місяці тому

      Also, no price difference at all, right? I owned a mini rectifier and it is an awesome amplifier, but not relevant in this case.

  • @fioredeiliberi9552
    @fioredeiliberi9552 2 роки тому +4

    I have the micro darc and it's fenomenal.

    • @queencrimson9604
      @queencrimson9604 2 роки тому +1

      I got it on Friday and I agree

    • @fioredeiliberi9552
      @fioredeiliberi9552 2 роки тому +1

      @@queencrimson9604 yo bro, let it rock! 😀

    • @queencrimson9604
      @queencrimson9604 2 роки тому

      @@fioredeiliberi9552 I’m a sis 😅

    • @queencrimson9604
      @queencrimson9604 2 роки тому

      @@fioredeiliberi9552 but thanks 😎

    • @WesselsReaper
      @WesselsReaper 2 роки тому

      im about to get one! what cab are you running it through? im trying to put together a "cheap" rig for my garage room so i dont have to keep hauling my amp to and from lol

  • @duckfluff
    @duckfluff 2 роки тому +1

    they definitely both sound orange amps-ish

  • @jarikoskenniska299
    @jarikoskenniska299 2 роки тому +1

    Orange wins! ...Thx

  • @denniseh5305
    @denniseh5305 2 роки тому

    Was that Cold and Ugly in the beginning???

  • @Neruomir
    @Neruomir 3 місяці тому +1

    FRIEDMAN does not have the same level of growl and bite as the ORANGE amp and just plain can't handle cleans.

  • @thefrankly
    @thefrankly Рік тому +1

    The Orange sounds like a record and the BE sounds pretty terrible by comparison.

  • @ValleysOfSaturn
    @ValleysOfSaturn 2 роки тому

    Ha ha ha... Micro Dark eats Friedman for lunch in the Clean department...

  • @stevefitz2522
    @stevefitz2522 2 роки тому

    Not as impressed by the Friedman as I thought I'd be, micro dark all day for me.

  • @organicchime1263
    @organicchime1263 2 роки тому +1

    The Friedman sounds like crap. No comparison here, the Orange has depth in it's tone. The Friedman sounds one dimensional and boxy! I'm not a fan of the Friedman tube amps either as I owned a Runt for about a week before returning it.

  • @overfreeze2460
    @overfreeze2460 2 роки тому

    Orange is the evil!!!

  • @csh9853
    @csh9853 Рік тому

    I have a micro dark and it sounds like sht