1978 Pontiac grand safari wagon
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2022
- Today I saw this car at local Monday night car show in lowellville Ohio. I’ve never say a Pontiac grand safari wagon. So here it is, Pontiac offered grand safari wagon 1971-1978 in two generations 71-76 1st gen 77-78 second generation in 1979 grand safari became the Bonneville safari. Enjoy this episode
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Love these. Love wagons in general as they were the most expensive models in the lineup...so much content. Have driven both gens and I have more connection with the 1st Gen, I own a '75 Grand Ville convert, but the 2nd Gen drives superior and is a better car...really got your money's worth. Last of the real American cars...once they wholesale went FWD and rubber bumpered in the 80's I kinda lost interest
Led zeppelin but don't recall name of the song...Ramble On?
That’s awesome information. Hoping this channel will one day be one of the go-to classic car channels. Try to post 4-5 car videos a week
Ding ding ding winner you got the song and band I might see about adding instrumental it would make it easier. Not the best singer Robert plant sang it better lol =)
I bought one of these in 1986 from a co worker for $900 bucks . Beautiful ride and had the 401 cubic inch V8 .Driving it back home for first time I wondered why everyone was driving so slow . I looked at speedo and I was doing 95 and didn't even feel like it ! Last of great GM cars and I still think about it .
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What a great story thank you so much for sharing =) kids now have the mini van we had a Subaru Outback it got great gas mileage, we go to southern Georgia in the summer that outback would do the trip 1.5 tanks to get to Thomasville GA wife wants another one but not too many wagons on offer from companies
My mother had a blue 78 with spoked hub caps 6L v8 it hauled groceries and all eight of us kids. This was a nice riding car back in the day.
So plushy was the seats
This Pontiac wagon is an excellent survivor & is in great shape!!! The Malaise era was in full swing & all cars suffered many downsizing & emissions issues. The ugly wheels on this Pontiac wagon are unfortunate!! It would be so much fun with stock wheels & wheel covers!!! Thanks for sharing another fun video!!!! 👍👍🙂
Yeah I wish it had the wheels that were supposed to be on it but man that interior was so comfortable and plushy =) great long haul cruiser
I didn’t think the wheels are original equipment, at least they didn’t look like it.
I owned the 1983 Pontiac Parisienne Wagon. Three years old at the time. Very similar to this. Fully optioned, a true family vacation cruiser. Great highway car. I sold the car two years later to an entrepreneur who was using these cars for taxi service in Sweden. He had purchased others. I’m thinking the Swedish Krona was strong against the dollar to facilitate the cost with overseas shipping.
The wagon could hold a 4x8 sheet of plywood flat on the floor.
Awesome story thank you so much for sharing. I was impressed with how comfortable the seat are. =)
@@What.its.like. The cassettes were easier to use for consumers. At least I thought so. You could make your own cassettes pretty easily but cartridges, not so much.
I used to make my own cassette tapes all the time.. kids will never know about the whole cassette tape thing or the fact one can’t leave vinyl records in a hot car.. my dad gave me all his old vinyl records and took beatles albums (was the red set the vinyl was red and apparently they are rare I left it in the car because I didn’t want them to get lost or stolen. I asked to go get them and when I got to the car picked it up and just felt like mush, I was like no big deal I’ll find another one. I looked never saw another red vinyl set, dad pasted away 5 going on 6 years I never told him and he never asked ) but yeah can’t leave vinyl in a hot car
My Dad's last GM car was a 1978 Pontiac Bonneville Brougham. He test drove one with the 301 V-8 and it was s-l-o-w. So he ordered the optional Pontiac 400-4bbl. V-8 which was optional on the sedans. Now that car was quick for a malaise era vehicle. That may have been the last year the Pontiac 400 was available...its lineage traced back to the original Pontiac 287 V-8 of 1955. We still had that car when he died in 1994 & then I sold it. Sure wish I hadn't. An extremely reliable car.
Great story thanks for sharing =)
I owned a 1979 Pontiac Bonneville Safari, same colors featured here, 301CID, unusual clothe seating, sold it with over 200,000 miles.
That’s awesome unfortunately this car is no longer with us the guy survived he got hit by a port authority bus I saw him the other day and I was like where is your wagon at and he’s like you haven’t heard and then told me the story and I just couldn’t believe it I told him he was lucky that he was alive.
They were an AWSOME car aka wagon! 👍👍
Not often seen =)
My brother and sister in law had one of these big Safari wagons in the 1980's. I remember it had striped upholstery on the seats.
I saw those seats they was an option they were very interesting =)
This brings back memories. Me and my buddy were 16 at the time, and my buddy had just gotten his license like a month before. One day he was driving his mom's Grand Safari wagon (with the woodgrain sides) and I was riding with him---he made a left turn in front of a car, and the car slammed into the right rear quarter. Nobody was hurt, and it didn't total the wagon, but it sure did leave a nice-sized dent---a dent he had to explain to his very irate mother
Awesome story thank you so much for sharing =)
Love this car I had the same model Grand safari, with a 455, and I guess specialty luxury package they were cigarette lighters sticking out of the rear of the front seat and ashtrays mounted in the back of the front seat. It had tilt wheel, awesome vehicle would love to own one now.
This car unfortunately doesn’t exist anymore it was involved in a wreck owner was fine car didn’t make it
Pontiacs full size cars , chevy s with extra chrome outside , wooden dash inside.
Luv that 65 Ford pick-up next to the Safari. 8-tracks were made to the best of my knowledge from the late sixties to the early eighties. That two way tailgate was first done by Ford in the late sixties and eventually copied by everyone else.
Awesome information I didn’t know ford started that trend
Back when wagons STILL ruled! National Lampoons Vacation ruined it. We looked at them all. Olds, Buick, Pontiac. I still have a "soft spot" for wagons. I had a '95 Ford Escort Wagon & a '99 Saturn Wagon. Could get (2) 2"x4"x10' in either. (8) 2"x4"x8' in either! These '78's can get a "lumber yard" in there.
We love wagons on this channel especially orphan wagons =)
sure do miss them !
Any pontiac with an Oldsmobile 403 was definitely a California car this pontiac station wagon reminds me of the Chevrolet caprice
I did a lot of research on this car as with all the cars on this channel but some of the information was flaky.. some sources said could opt and get the 455 v8 as well I left it off of the list because another source said they ended 455 in 76. All the photos I’ve seen the engine looks to be 301 v8
@@What.its.like. funny thing about pontiac with their engines they had different displacement engines but pontiac never advertised their engines as big or small block all engines externally are the same but the internal component differ depending the application
Great review and video ! My parents had one of these a 1984 Pontiac Parisienne safari wagon . Ahh the memories ...
I own currently own a 1981 Oldsmobile Delta 88 sedan . The song is Ramble On by Led Zeppelin ( 69/70 ) .
You are correct about the song =) All of the old cars have souls and vibes that new cars don’t have New cars are so generic and plain
I called them appliances
@@What.its.like. You Got it Pontiac !
Thank you for sharing. The Pontiac Safari is a line of station wagons that was produced by Pontiac from 1955 to 1989.
You bet I plan on hitting a lot more Pontiacs in the future especially late 40s early 50s is my favorite era of Pontiac .
I'd happily take one of these. Drove an Impala wagon back in the day, solid car. Pontiac version in Grand Safari form better appointed of course, though the Estate Wagon Limited and then later the full on Electra Estate were the ultimate versions. The 301 was not a bad motor, and with a 4bl in the lighter Grand Prix (we had an SJ), it gave a decent account of itself - for 1979. Performance standards were totally different then and 0-60 in 11 seconds of better was decently quick - although our 10 year old Torino with a good 351 would clobber the thing. Would be much better with Rally IIs or the 'custom finned' covers.
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I owned both a 1976 and 1977 Grand Safari wagon. Smooth and quite cars. This one is nice, but why is the rear end jacked up? While I would prefer stock wheel covers, at least these appear to be the correct diameter. Kudos for the white wall tires.
I do not recall that Pontiac had a different rear suspension than the other B body wagons. I know the 1971 thru 1976 wagons had leaf springs, but the B body 1977 and forward wagons had coils.
The tail gate functioned as a door, with window up or down or as a flat loading platform with window down. Ford introduced this tail gate concept (called the "Magic Doorgate) in 1966. It was quickly copied by other US wagon manufacturers.
GM offered their clamshell tail gate design in all 1971 thru 1976 full size wagons. While I personally liked the concept and never experienced any problems with my clamshell gate, it has a reputation of being problematic.
You are correct regarding the Pontiac 301 CID V8. It was not a particularly durable engine.
The Sunbird wagon was an updated Vega (later Monza) subcompact 4-passenger wagon.
Awesome information thank you so much for sharing =)
Lead Zeppelin Ramble On. 8-tracks were more temperamental and prone to failure. Unlike the tape cassette that has basically a "Split" magnetic tape inside and could be as long as 30 - 45 minutes per side. That ribbon travels from one end to the other on side 1, then is manually flipped over to go in the opposite direction on side two, while passing over a single "read" head, the 8-Track went through a more mechanically complicated process.
Inside an 8-Track cassette, there is one long magnetic tape ribbon that loops onto itself. This ribbon passes through 4 heads in the 8-Track player that reads 2 tracks per setting. Each setting had 2 songs on it, so basically the ribbon was as long as a single song, maybe 3-7 minutes long. Once the loop reaches the end of song 2, the internal mechanism "Steps down" to get to track 3/4, then steps down again to get to 5/6 and finally 7/8. Then at the end of track 8, the entire mechanism rises up to the initial position to get to tracks 1/2 and the cycle repeats. It's basically like a music Cd on auto repeat, but instead of a laser head mounted on a bar that travels from one end to another, there was lot of "Mechanical mechanism action" going on, and the older the 8-track player became, the more the internals went out of alignment, eventually leading to the head lining up in the wrong place or the 8-Track jamming up.
8-Track players were pretty good to listen to at one point in time. I have a few cassettes in my collection, like the Grease movie soundtrack, ELO and Led Zepplin. I bought a second hand phonograph cabinet with 8-Track player in it back in around 2008 for one of my hobby shops, but eventually everything wore out on it and then we got the 2013 Flood and the whole thing went under 5 feet of water.
nice 😀
When I grew up through the 1980's, a lot of moms drove these wagons. I don't think many Gen X kids like myself would consider these cars as being "Classic" because they were pretty much everywhere and quite common, but time moves on, I guess.
It would be like people today always seeing 2022 Honda Civics driving around and not really thinking of them because they just blend into the "Automotive Scenery" ...then your grand kids 40 years later saying "Wow! Look at that classic Honda Civic!" if you know what I mean.
The speedometer has that crazy 0-80 mph limiter on it. That was a "Safety feature" on pretty much all the late 1970's to 1985 cars...it was suppose to be so people wouldn't race their cars around on city streets. A lot of people removed the limiter though.
Yeah totally get it it’s crazy to think 1978 was 44 years ago
@@What.its.like. We are always moving forward. Sometimes it seems too fast!
Hard to find one of these gems down under I’ve been searching for one of these or something similar for a while.
That is the only one I ever saw
Greetings from N.Ireland, love your videos, amazed by pathetic hp figures from US v8's back then, UK Ford's half that capacity were putting out the same power
Thank you so much greetings from north on Pittsburgh Pennsylvania USA.. emissions and government regulations contributed to weak horsepower figures.. but to be completely honest doesn’t really tell the whole story I had an 88 Lincoln town car that had 160hp could you 0 to 60 and 8 1/2 seconds was the fastest I could ever get it to go which isn’t really that fast now but when I was a kid I could blow the doors off for just about anything even raced a late 80s Camaro and I kept up with them.. which really shocked the guy in the Camaro.. =)
Hi I used to have an 80's ford Capri 2.8 litre I think about 138 hp 0 to 60 just under 8 seconds, I currently have a ,60 impala 348, I believe it's the only one in N. Ireland
That’s incredible is it hard for you to get parts.. do they have like a parts supplier in Ireland or do you have to buy from the US and they ship it to Ireland
I own a 77 Grand Safari here in the UK. I have had the 301 removed (engine dead), now having a pontiac 400 fitted. Should have it back end of July....
That’s awesome =) tell me what the 400s like when you get it back
@@What.its.like. I will do :)
I had an 85 and an 86 Caprice Estate Wagon and it is amazing how many interior bits and pieces are exactly the same as this car. Fun facts: the 85 had a Chevy 305 V8, and the 86 had an Olds 307 V8 from the factory.
Awesome thank you for sharing that information =) nothing changed from 80-89 little change and didn’t matter the make
I had a 79 Plymouth Volare that had a 8 track
8 track: In September 1965, Ford Motor Company offered 8-track players as an option in their 1966 model cars. A Ford spokesperson reported that 65,000 players were installed in the first year. Last year in vehicles? 1982. Why? Too large and casstte came out in 1966 in Europe. 301? I was a service manager at a Pontiac -GMC - Honda dealership at the time. The 301 was reliable and had some significant differences and very underpowered for something this size. It featured only two counter weights instead of the usual five and also featured lightened connecting rod journals. Technically the "Oldsmobile" engine by this year was named a GM corporate engine. These were great road cruisers.
Thank you so much for that added information I wasn’t sure when 8 track came out to be honest, it didn’t seem like it was around that long. Vinyl records have been around the longest, they are still making vinyl records
I really enjoy these videos and appreciate that you do them. I am 55 years old so I been around many of these cars you show. I am hoping that your videos will spark people of your generation to have an interest in saving and restoring old cars
Thank you so much it means a lot I want to keep this information alive for anyone that wants to get into this hobby 1900 well 1896-2000s and a few new cars (I don’t like new cars and the audience doesn’t watch the new car episodes and frankly there are enough UA-cam channels that cover the new cars, there are a few classic car channels that cover the classics, but not like this channel) hoping one day this channel will be one of the go to classic car channels =)
This is such a normal every day car that was everywhere not that long ago. It almost seems laughable that it would be at a car show, or we would have to describe "what these are like". I guess if you're pretty young you never rode in one of these, but boy these were common!
They were common but not anymore, I’ve been looking for rims, single piece 8 lug small pilot hole 4.5 inch they were on all the bread trucks and gm commercial vehicles I’ve been everywhere around here and only found 3 rims need three more.. bread trucks were everywhere now nowhere. It’s almost like they never existed.
Portability of the cassettes vs bulk of the 8 track tapes
I remember ogling these beauties on the dealership lot in 1978, fresh from the factory. Stunning cars all the way around! The wheels on this particular model in the video has some scary looking rims on it - shame! Put on a set of factory Ralley ll wheels and now we're talking.
I was going to Led Zeppelin Ramble on but I figured someone would have it before me
You only the second person =) I taught that was easy makes it hard when it’s just the lyrics
Tune is "Ramble On" by Led Zeppelin.
Yep your right =)
When did they go to fuel injection instead of carburetor?
Mid 80s ford did not sure about the other makes 85 Lincoln I think used throttle body fuel injection 88 Lincoln I had had 5.0 with fuel injection
My parents bought a '81 lemans coupe sliver with 305 V8 and automatic transmission it was okay until my mom vassa got into accident and it was gone
I hope everyone was ok after the crash?
@@What.its.like. yes unfortunately my mom was driving and was making a left turn on a yellow light and a taxi cab was coming through the opposite way and sideswipe us. She actually died on October 16 1988 from a brain aneurysm in her sleep at 38 years old (34 years ago nothing to do with the car accident) I was 16 at the time when she died
Wow I’m sorry was she your best friend my grandpa died when I was 16 he was my best friend that was 17 years ago I’m 33 now.. not a day goes by that I don’t think of him, I wouldn’t be who I am without him.. funny thing tho that was the second time he died he died one time before that when he was 55, might tell the story on here one day, the first time he died he was 55 massive heart attack he was dead for 16 minutes, Science says anyone without oxygen for 10 minutes would be brain dead. He got 11 more years coming back wasn’t his choice he talked about what it was like on the other side.. he talked just like I’m talking to you now.. (I’m texting and texting really wasn’t around in 2005 when he died but) you’d never know that he was dead for 16 minutes. Maybe I’ll tell the story on here one day.. it boards on religion.. so idk
You seriously can't tell vinyl from leather?
I’ve felt some interesting materials I’m not a material specialist.. never claimed to be
Cassettes were smaller , hold more music.You could record or make your own mix tape with cassettes. I don’t believe you could with 8 Track..
In addition, cassettes had much better sound quality than 8-tracks, were cheaper to manufacture, and more durable. And you could mix an 8-track -- most people just didn't have the home equipment to do so.
Do you have a favorite car manufacturer? I am a Pontiac fan.
I don’t per day I love packards
But I like all the brands studebaker Nash Hudson edsel amc I like the independents a lot they made some really great cars that get glossed over.
I don’t do Facebook. I was banned from it a couple years ago. Sorry.
It’s all good I made the group to give the audience to show their cars also has short clips of stuff not posted on here.. one I’ll post here one day it’s about gas mileage..
like a hoopty basic a-b
Wrong and ugly wheels. Those were dark days for the car industry. Smogged up underpowered cars.
Yeah, someone requested a Chevy Caprice wagon from around this era I’ve never saw Pontiac grand safari so figured do that now still looking for the caprice version.
Definitely wrong tires and wheels not correct for Chevy or Pontiac of this vintage.