How Amazon Made the 1 Million Lumen Flashlight

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    Today we tackle the infamous 1 Million lumen flashlight from Amazon and see exactly how far they've gotten on the website vs a more likely to be known quantity in a Wurkkos 13,000 Lumen TS32. We wern't holding our breath for 6 digit results, but it's good to check in on these things to see how far we've come and how far the site has to go.
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    0:00 Light #1
    2:00 900K
    3:29 990K
    4:22 Only 13,000
    6:38 990K #2
    7:53 Thrower
    8:53 1M
    9:50 Runtime/battery
    11:46 Drop Tests
    12:47 Why these exist
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  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому +45

    This is episode 20 in a series of testing various light types, usually from actual brands: ua-cam.com/play/PLYka5JBKPLHEfG1w1WC_bbN4vQglwyp5n.html

    • @jjchouinard2327
      @jjchouinard2327 Місяць тому +1

      Do you guys ever contact Amazon regarding these bonkers false (advertising) claims?

    • @mohamed1104
      @mohamed1104 Місяць тому

      Can you use 18650 batteries in these lights? I have never heard of the batteries that come with them.

    • @SpatialDragon
      @SpatialDragon Місяць тому

      I am looking for a headlamp. I have tried a couple of the led bands and they sucked. I want something that is a floodlight first and if possible a spotlight. So far Harbor Freight is the best I have tried. I haven't noticed a test on them here, I have watched a couple of years. If you get a chance, thanks. You guys rock.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому +3

      Headlamps: ua-cam.com/video/Io2ENJa-hDQ/v-deo.html
      - Yes you can use 18650's in these lights with the collar spacer some of them come with.
      - We've reported dozens of these for misleading claims, yes.

    • @Feldmarshall12
      @Feldmarshall12 Місяць тому +1

      @@TorqueTestChannel Small sugestion for future tests. Add another round of tests with standarized batteries (for example 5C discharge current from Samsung, withsimilar energy density for different sizes). This way you would test the lights factoring out the batteries.

  • @craigmiller332
    @craigmiller332 Місяць тому +287

    I eagerly await the "1 Billion" Lumen light from Amazon...

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Місяць тому +19

      It'll come after we hit 2 million, 5 million, 10 million, 100 million, 500 million 😂

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому +82

      I hope you're willing to wait..... a whole 3 weeks :P

    • @craigmiller332
      @craigmiller332 Місяць тому

      @@TorqueTestChannel someday, flashlights will be rated in "Suns" 🌞 (which incidentally someone once calculated to be ~36 Octillion lumens). Will it stop there? Noooooo Mr. Bond! TTC will be testing $39 Amazon flashlights with "20 GigaSuns" ratings. Eventually it will all become meaningless. Nietzsche was right. The TTC will become the existential nihilist channel.

    • @rhetorical1488
      @rhetorical1488 Місяць тому +6

      I have my pennies saved up for the sharks with laser beams.

    • @agoogleuser1188
      @agoogleuser1188 Місяць тому +1

      Bros got goals beyond our understanding

  • @chubbysumo2230
    @chubbysumo2230 Місяць тому +381

    how is this not false advertising on amazon's part?

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому +250

      It's technically not Amazon doing the advertising, but the vendor. Though we used to hold retailers responsible for that, i.e. is Walmart was selling another brand's TV and it says 42" but measured 39" diagonally we'd probably blame Walmart.
      But Amazon is so massive, we've equated it to Ebay and just sort of shrug now like "what can be done" which I do sort of agree with. It's Whack-a-mole like we cover towards the end of the episode. But I also feel it's in Amazon best interest to stay relevant to at least try. Their search engine usually turns up just trash lately.

    • @craigmiller332
      @craigmiller332 Місяць тому +60

      ​@@TorqueTestChannelopen up a few of those "suspiciously light" batteries and I'll bet you find a smaller battery inside. Once you've weighed the empty sleeves you'll get a reasonably ballpark correction factor to ID the probable internal batteries within. Of course you've already measured the battery capacity, but this can add an extra column to the spreadsheet.
      Another great review 👍

    • @emiliog.4432
      @emiliog.4432 Місяць тому

      Jeff Bezos and Amazon does not care about fraud, counterfeiting or fraudulent claims. $$$$$ I canceled my Prime account years ago.

    • @danr1920
      @danr1920 Місяць тому +87

      It's not false advertising, it's FRAUD!

    • @someguy2741
      @someguy2741 Місяць тому

      They wont because it would trigger the blue-haired nose-ring weirdo-NPC army of the 0.0001% of people to complaine of all kinds of "-isms".
      The "army" is convinced that the chinese companies would never risk "their good name". They have ZERO ability to understand that the companies are made up names.
      Dont expect amazon to ever do anything unless there is a major safety concern after a lot of injury.

  • @komitadjie
    @komitadjie Місяць тому +54

    Man, I've been noticing those "Review Hijacks" quite a bit myself. I'm an Amazon Vine reviewer, so I end up getting to test out and review a fair bit of stuff before it even hits the main pages. On quite a few of my reviews, I've gone back to update something as I've put more time on the item and have more input to give - Only to find out that the item being sold that has my first review isn't even close to what I actually reviewed!
    My favourite there so far was reviewing a $9.95 pressure washer extension wand. It was pretty good, nice and solid, good quick-connects, held up well in use. Not a big deal, pretty simple item. I reviewed it five stars - it was a good value and did what it was supposed to well. Come back in a couple months to update and say that after a few months of use it was still holding up well... Lo and behold, that page is now selling a $199 electric pressure washer instead! And still has my five-star review on it! (I dumped the review to one-star and detailed why.)

    • @kylek29
      @kylek29 16 днів тому +8

      I've had the same experience. Even good brands are doing it (recycling prior model pages). They could handle it by putting a time-limit / edit-diff system on their listings -- something like a limitation on editing the listing after X days of it being published, after that period, you can only strikeout and/or add "citation" markers that link to a "Product Updates" section, with the main text being locked from the addition of text from there on out.
      Include a similar system for images and a prominent "report listing" button for customers, and these sellers would have to find a new way to cheat.

    • @vink6163
      @vink6163 14 днів тому +7

      Sounds like you need to start including the product name and price at the start of your review so people know when that happens

    • @JS-bh5pm
      @JS-bh5pm 13 днів тому

      Most people are thinking of cleaver ways just to rip you off. Amazon should Banned these people for life

    • @Badkitty24
      @Badkitty24 12 днів тому

      @@vink6163 This is what i do. I type out the EXACT ITEM and price i am reviewing, because they group many items together that aren't even the same.

  • @shadowgolem9158
    @shadowgolem9158 Місяць тому +122

    For reference...a very powerful arc welder generates around 200000 lumens.
    A 20k$ pro follow spot throws about 14000 lumens at 100 feet. Which feels pretty warm even at that distance.

    • @clockworkvanhellsing372
      @clockworkvanhellsing372 Місяць тому +10

      The current top of the line led reach ~200Lumen/watt at reasonable power levels. Even with those, you'd still need a 5000W led array to reach that brightness.

    • @mondavou9408
      @mondavou9408 Місяць тому +2

      helpful

    • @flakby3085
      @flakby3085 27 днів тому +4

      For another reference: A WW2 150 cm searchlight, which were used to light up planes up to 12 km high, has roughly 1.25 million lumens. (And pretty much 1 billion candela because it's a very focused beam)

    • @ohioplayer-bl9em
      @ohioplayer-bl9em 13 днів тому

      @@flakby3085those could have been used as weapons at shorter distances. Can you imagine lightning that up with it focused on the tree line the enemy is hiding in. It would instantly blind the for several minutes and possibly cause permanent damage. It stimulates my mind to think of all sorts of horrible weapons based on light.
      A tree line 2-3 miles away, 10 search lights fire up at once and all point at the same spot.. the woods will start to smolder 😂. Anyone that looks towards the light to try and shoot at it would be blinded and unable to open there eyes for days 😢

    • @ArtemisKitty
      @ArtemisKitty 11 днів тому +1

      And let's not forget one almost everyone is familiar with: The sun! That's around 127,000 lumens, roughly.

  • @ThriftyToolShed
    @ThriftyToolShed Місяць тому +98

    Wow! .05% of claim! None of the crappy ones even reached
    .25%🤯
    How in the world...
    Excellent testing as always TTC👍

  • @epointy
    @epointy Місяць тому +68

    I love the flashlight series!(and I want more!)

    • @TsunauticusIV
      @TsunauticusIV Місяць тому +3

      I love it too. I’ve always loved flashlights. I have more flashlights than any one man should have… and I regret buying none of them. 😆

    • @secret5.
      @secret5. Місяць тому +1

      Still waiting on a Klarus in a future lineup.

  • @grumpycat5991
    @grumpycat5991 Місяць тому +20

    Amazon Customer: "I bought the cool new flashlight"
    Amazon's customer's Bro: "But how many Lumens does it have???"
    Amazon Customer: "ALL OF THEM"

  • @someguy2741
    @someguy2741 Місяць тому +46

    Most people have no idea of what measurements of anything is anymore. Or they think "led" is all the same. I showed my neighbor the difference between a cheap 10w led and a nice one. It was incredibly apparent what it was worth.

    • @hugegamer5988
      @hugegamer5988 Місяць тому +3

      “Or they think "led" is all the same” Yea, I don’t get it either. First everyone complains it’s a toxic metal, then it’s heralded as the bastion of efficient light creation and a green product.

    • @victorro8760
      @victorro8760 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@hugegamer5988 And before all that, everyone used the word as past tense of "lead". They're so inconsistent.

    • @vink6163
      @vink6163 14 днів тому

      Plus everyone thinks it's new technology, but even buildings hundreds of years old have leadlights in them

  • @DigitalIP
    @DigitalIP Місяць тому +27

    I've been using a USB 5v-24v step up converter to power a 12v Spot/Off road light with a USB Power bank. Since ive been DIY'ing my own lights i havent needed a normal flashlight for quite some time now.

    • @mromutt
      @mromutt Місяць тому +5

      haha I use a drill battery and one of those old style round glass headlights for a flashlight, dyi lights are great. I slapped it together in one of those cheap plastic "ammo" cases you get at walmart for 5 or 6 bucks.

    • @DigitalIP
      @DigitalIP Місяць тому +1

      @@mromutt See thats the thing, i initially also used a 20v 6amp Craftsman battery along with their 150w DC-AC Inverter to power various 12v Fog/Spot/Lightbars with a 12v power supply plugged into it, but it was just too bulky for my liking, then i remembered i had the USB step up converter modules, went through my stash of USB power banks to find one that could handle the startup current and i was good to go.
      Much easier to manage without the extra size/weight of the 20v battery in addition to the power supply compared to a small USB Power bank..

    • @mromutt
      @mromutt Місяць тому +1

      @@DigitalIP for mine I was kind of going for the form factor. I always wanted one of those jurassic park flashlights haha. That and I like setting it down and pointing it at the work like under the sink. I am working on a small handheld though with a motorcycle fog light and either my Bosch 12v or hypertough 12v batteries, they both have a good interface and shape to use spade terminals for a homemade direct quick connect to the battery. Need to work out a handle body still.

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave Місяць тому +3

      @@mromutt The high beam on a sealed beam throws way better than this Amazon junk. Great idea.

  • @tasaman
    @tasaman Місяць тому +13

    I picked up two Wurkkos and for the money they can't be beat in my opinion. I also own Fenix, Olight, and Nightcore. For $26 on sale the FC11 is a great edc choice and great gift.

    • @danielcrouch6589
      @danielcrouch6589 20 днів тому

      Love my Wurkkos TS70! Best house light I've ever had; turns night into day!

  • @devyn10111
    @devyn10111 Місяць тому +36

    Can you do tests on the portable car air compressors? Maybe evaluate speed, max psi, functionality, ease of use? I know a few of them are junk

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому +24

      I've never met one worth a damn, i don't have 4 mins per tire to wait around. But off-road i suppose it's better than nothing

    • @rudolphna54
      @rudolphna54 Місяць тому +3

      @@TorqueTestChannel Funnily enough, the Harbor Freight 12V one is by far the best 12V one available I've found, it's the fastest and quietest.

    • @jeffh7021
      @jeffh7021 Місяць тому +2

      The Milwaukee m18 tire inflator is by far the best portable inflator right now. Nothing else is even close, from what I've seen.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 Місяць тому

      ​@@jeffh7021 I wouldn't say nothing else is close, ridgid is not far and also makita which has a bit less power but is smaller, has deflation button and double the duty cycle

    • @SGTMinguez
      @SGTMinguez Місяць тому

      @TorqueTestChannel
      Maybe do one with the 12V wired ViAir, Tireflate, ARB and the knockoff ARB compressors, since Todd at Project Farm already did a similar battery powered inflator test?

  • @Feldmarshall12
    @Feldmarshall12 Місяць тому +22

    Amazingly, I feel the advertising on aliexpress is now much closer to reality. If you ignore 10kW 1M lumen crap, you can often find info on what emitter is actually used and get realistic data. Convoy is a brand I have good expierience with. They specify LED model, light spectral temperature, CRI, realistic maximum power draw etc. Another example: on my bike I use towild BR800, that feels like couple of hundreds lumen light and has an asymteric spot to limit blinding other people... And you can swap 18650 cells on long rides.
    P.S: It may be better to use some standarized 'middle of the pack cells' when testing, to separate performance of the flashlight from performance of the battery. For flashlights 5-10C cells should be more than enough (10C means discharge current of in mA of 10*capacity in mAh). Anyway, keep up the good work: )

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen Місяць тому +3

      I have a Convoy, I like it. Good value and you can customise each torch.

    • @moonrazk
      @moonrazk Місяць тому

      There's quite a bunch of good flashlight brands on Ali, the one shown here, Wurkkos, Convoy, like you said, Sofirn and Lumintop as well.

    • @saddlepiggy
      @saddlepiggy Місяць тому +3

      You’re completely right. I don’t use Amazon for projects because they never have technical specs or even rough dimensions while aliexpress will give you dimensiones drawings. And it arrives in 1-2 weeks instead of 1-2 months now.

    • @churblefurbles
      @churblefurbles Місяць тому

      Trusty convoy, mine all still work, and they have plenty of accessories, and the best part, you can pick color temperature.

  • @alex_thecarguy
    @alex_thecarguy Місяць тому +19

    A while back I was looking for new rear bilstein shocks for my truck. I checked amazon over a few weeks. One day a pair of those shocks came up for $129, much less than the usual $99 each. Seeing the -50% amazon price, I decided to go with it, only to be shipped ONE shock for 30 dollars above market price. When I went back to the listing, the picture of two shocks had changed to one, as well as the description, but I had screenshots.
    Seller ended up giving me a full refund and amazon sent me a free replacement shock. But the point is, the listing changes are real, and they can bite you in the ass quick. ALWAYS screenshot if you have even a hint of suspicion. Amazon needs to up their QC game... And by that I mean have any seller qc at all.

    • @harpintn
      @harpintn 15 днів тому

      Just one of many reasons I don't buy from Amazon.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 5 днів тому

      Really they need a means to actually report a listing, and have a listing auto-pulled if there are enough verified buyers reporting it.

  • @leftcoastfunk
    @leftcoastfunk Місяць тому +5

    the completely unethical review hijacking/product page editing on Amazon is SO out of hand. I review a LOT of Amazon products through their Vine program, mostly from these small marketplace vendors. Every time I see that the product page has been edited to/from a completely different product my review is an instant 1-star. Amazon really needs to either lock down product listings to permanently tie them to reviews for that exact item and/or force any product listing edits to be approved through an actual human review process
    Anyway, I always appreciate these types of product reviews you do, and especially you calling these sellers out for their unethical BS

  • @JoeTheDIY
    @JoeTheDIY Місяць тому +7

    It's like the wild west days of online retailing. One day we'll look back on these days and say we were there in those wild times of incredible claims.

    • @johnsmith7676
      @johnsmith7676 Місяць тому

      No... This is the Dead West. They destroyed it just like they said they would.

  • @matthewdrew6268
    @matthewdrew6268 Місяць тому +4

    Been using my ts32 for about a year now. I also have p45 cells. It's a great light I took the handle off and it fits in my cup holder nice. Would recommend

  • @TheZigZiggy
    @TheZigZiggy Місяць тому +15

    Whatever happened to the truth in advertising laws?

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Місяць тому +14

      Amazon laughs at laws

    • @scott8919
      @scott8919 Місяць тому +4

      Depends on how hard the authorities want to crack down on it. There's probably so many that lie that it is impossible to catch up to them.

    • @hornetf18
      @hornetf18 Місяць тому

      @@scott8919
      Also even when the seller is caught, they just shut down and re-emerge as a different seller with a different name. That’s why there are so many sellers with random combinations of letters as names. Amazon will still make money, so they have little incentive to enforce these laws.

    • @TheRealMikeWilly
      @TheRealMikeWilly Місяць тому +2

      @@scott8919that and the fact that they kill off their brand names every couple months which makes prosecution impossible.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Місяць тому +2

      Amazon is essentially China's consumer portal. Amazon has no interest in losing their best customer, which isn't you, it's chinese sponsored products.

  • @Random_4400
    @Random_4400 20 днів тому +1

    Flashlights are the only reason why i subscribed to this channel, keep up the good work!

  • @terryloh8583
    @terryloh8583 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so much for making these videos! Very helpful.

  • @tda2806
    @tda2806 Місяць тому +3

    A word of caution, XHP with numbers other than 35, 50 or 70 have nothing to do with Cree, one of the flashlights (torches for us Brits) has XHP160.5 on its box.

  • @iamdarth8393
    @iamdarth8393 29 днів тому +1

    As someone who works with global machine shops and suppliers, I have on many occasions encountered potential suppliers supplying perfect first articles for validation and then shipping unusable junk after validation is approved.
    Once had a Chinese hardware supplier provide a Grade 2 spec bolt (lowest standard grade) that failed pressure testing at half its designed load. There response: it was wasn't a grade 2 bolt, it was a bolt made from "grade 2 steel". "Grade 2 steel" isn't a standard way of classifying steel. They sent good samples then got caught send garbage pot metal bolts for production use.

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie Місяць тому +3

    You should be able to return these to Amazon as not as described on the website, but Amazon has a habit of "firing" customers who return too many items.
    I wish lawmakers would quit whining about how Amazon is abusing the poor third party sellers and instead focus on how Amazon is conspiring with shady Chinese firms to commit fraud with inflated specifications, counterfeit UL certifications, and items that fail to meet minimal safety standards.

  • @TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc
    @TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for another great vid! I think another reason these companies change specs & offerings so frequently is to spread the bad reviews around. Let's face it, if any one of those offerings you tested were to remain unchanged for long enough, nobody would be willing to waste their money, since 1 star reviews would dominate, (except for all the fake 5 star reviews, but that's a theme for another day).

  • @nich.894
    @nich.894 Місяць тому +7

    With this I can finally become the gnat lord

  • @gucky4717
    @gucky4717 Місяць тому +4

    I use the Nitecore MH12 Pro myself. It uses a 5300mhA 21700 and outputs about 3300 Lumen with the turbo, but I usually use the 1200 high mode, since Turbo drains the battery and overheats the LED after a short time. And 1200 Lumen is more then enough.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 5 днів тому

      If you actually measure most batteries, they're usually C or B grade cells, nitecore included. You can get -alot- more capacity if you ditch whatever comes with the flashlight and purchase the cells separately.

  • @PhillyFixed
    @PhillyFixed Місяць тому +6

    MY EYESSSS oh wait nah I'm fine.

  • @mercMADCommando
    @mercMADCommando Місяць тому +3

    The product page changes go well beyond just changing description and specs. I've seen stuff completely change items (often unrelated) and they keep their old ratings, reviews, etc. Amazon turned into ebay 2.0 over the last few years.

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley Місяць тому +4

    If a flashlight actually put out a million lumens, it wouldn't be a flashlight anymore, it'd be a weapon. You could start fires with just the light from it.

    • @eddzyeddzy6158
      @eddzyeddzy6158 Місяць тому

      every one should have them for self defense, dry-washing their cars, remove paint off of walls etc

  • @nriyo3
    @nriyo3 Місяць тому

    Your tests and channel are awesome. I would love to see you test Zebralight and Armytek and Acebeam.

  • @brainiac9579
    @brainiac9579 Місяць тому

    Great review, video, as always. I have a question: Did you measure the light output in strobe mode? When I had access to the equipment, I did on a couple of flashlights the kids got as gifts and they were generating around twice the intensity as in "normal" mode. The reason was that since it's not operating in CC mode, they were overdriving the LED. Not saying that any of your test subjects would have met their claims in strobe, but it might be fun to add that measurement if it differs from from normal mode.

  • @paranoiia8
    @paranoiia8 Місяць тому +9

    Few times I took apart those cheap batteries. They are so empty, when open them it in quiet room you can hear vacuum suck air inside... I bet that someone already think about putting inside them sand to make them feel heavier :D

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Місяць тому +6

      I've seen a picture of an 18650 teardown that had sand inside... It was really just a tiny 200mah "vape pen style" battery in a bigger case and filled with sand 🤣

  • @DRV-mt5dd
    @DRV-mt5dd 7 днів тому

    Excellent, thanks! This should be shown to business and marketing classes.

  • @eakamjotsingh4037
    @eakamjotsingh4037 Місяць тому +5

    dam fresh ass video

  • @orvaroth1613
    @orvaroth1613 Місяць тому +1

    Do they make / have you tried any tools with the lifepo4 batteries? cheers

  • @jaredm450
    @jaredm450 Місяць тому

    I love these flashlight testing episodes.

  • @jiefan249
    @jiefan249 Місяць тому

    thanks for your tests!

  • @afd1959
    @afd1959 27 днів тому

    Nice Job. A lot of work. Thank you.

  • @jeffreyh3739
    @jeffreyh3739 Місяць тому

    I'm a budget minded light freak from the incandescent days of candlepowerforums. I've since switched to headlamps and they've literally saved my life a couple times mountaineering, whitewater, and rock climbing. I've owned maybe 40 over the years but have been stuck on Fenix as of late. The line refactor and new models are a bit weird and not sure i like the quality of light but could you test some?
    All-time favorite headlamp Fenix HL60R and the "too-bright for anything normal but great for seeing 60m up a cliff while climbing" HM70R. I can lend you mine if it makes things easier.

  • @user-ex2jl5zu8k
    @user-ex2jl5zu8k Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the review. I have always wondered how some manufacturers could make such absurd and dishonest claims without being punished.

  • @Bolero6879
    @Bolero6879 Місяць тому +3

    I love watching these flashlight comparisons, you should test UV lights at some point!

    • @mromutt
      @mromutt Місяць тому

      Oh man thats a whole can of worms! and right up their alley with the wild claims and false advertising thats rampid.

  • @chimrichalds1422
    @chimrichalds1422 Місяць тому +21

    I know alot of you are upset with Amazon and using words like false advertising and fraud, but none of that really matters because once someone blows that 600Db airhorn we're all dead anyway. Just enjoy life while you can.

  • @andrewvelonis5940
    @andrewvelonis5940 27 днів тому

    Thank you for doing this. I admit, I don't know the technical info but I get the gist. I've seen many ads for supe-duper flashlights and been tempted by some of them, but my brother-in-law has a friend who got one and the battery self-ignited so that's kind of a problem.

  • @SEBTECHDIY
    @SEBTECHDIY Місяць тому +1

    That's why I like companies like Olight who truly test lumens, candela, runtime and give the result of their tests.

  • @briangschaefer7048
    @briangschaefer7048 Місяць тому

    Another brilliant video. Thank you.

  • @goskidmark
    @goskidmark Місяць тому

    One could make a case with an attorney for false advertisements, but that may be a goose chase. Thank you for the reviews!

  • @joeschmo622
    @joeschmo622 Місяць тому +1

    Just for the record, Sofirn and Wurkkos all use the same factory to produce their products, but they're independent and separate companies. There's even a bit of rivalry between them, as each takes their lights in different directions. I'm a fan of both Sofirn and Wurkkos, and have quite a bunch of their lights, and they're largely quite good. And unlike other mfrs, both use their own branded cells which are also quite good (usually) Lishen cells, which may not be 30Qs or VTC6es, but I always test the come-with cells, and they always clock in within 10% if not 5% of their rated mAH.
    "Rule of thumb" is that a reputable mfr's cells that are self-branded (Wurkkos, Sofirn, Wuben, Acebeam, Nitecore, etc.) are almost universally good-to-excellent cells. No-name generic-wrapped cells from alphabet-soup name companies are usually crap, pulled from recycle bins which is a *HUGE* industry in a certain large Asian country. So what *was* a good 5000mAH 26650 is now a recycled-and-rewrapped 2000mAH cell slipped into a Wsinawoo or Bebopadoo generic light.

  • @theghost75
    @theghost75 26 днів тому

    Way to be straight up and factual. Love it

  • @bping777
    @bping777 Місяць тому +2

    @Torque Test Channel have you done testing of the major tool brands flashlights that use their regular tool batteries? Models like DCL040, PCL660, 2735-20, and others.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому +3

      We haven't but can. Our current limitation is sphere opening diameter, and power tool lights not advertising the light head size. but the ones you listed are small enough i believe

  • @m_cabral
    @m_cabral Місяць тому +2

    I use streamlight regulated 18650s with the built in charging circuit in my cheap flashlights so I know there’s at least one good regulation circuit involved. I also don’t charge in the flashlight since I may as well add some caution to my caution.

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies 14 днів тому +3

    I asked them about the weight of their batteries. Their answer in broken English was, the batteries get heavier when full, they are sent empty so they weigh less. I laughed. Then did an Amazon return. After writing a warning note to anyone they try to flip this to.

    • @1978garfield
      @1978garfield 4 дні тому

      I have started leaving notes with my returns explaining the problem in case they sell it on Amazon Warehouse or it gets sold on eBay or someplace else.
      I can't leave reviews anymore.
      5 years ago they sent me an email saying I violated their terms.
      I asked them what I did and to this day they have never come right out and said it.
      I stopped asking because I don't want banned as a customer.

  • @justinvanburen8259
    @justinvanburen8259 Місяць тому

    Another great video thank you!!

  • @subby280
    @subby280 16 днів тому

    This is how investigavite journalism used to be. Thanks for the video!

  • @wadet73
    @wadet73 15 днів тому

    Test the LED headlight for hardhats or just slipping on to walk the dogs. I have 2 Smiling Shark brand lights with 230° COB lights along the front and a separate thrower. Once fully charged, these lights begin dimming after a few minutes. I found if the on/off sensor is on and you wave 👋🏼 to turn light off, wave again and it comes on at 💯 again. But yes, I have found using these headlamps frees up my hands when walking the dogs. Great content

  • @CrashOD
    @CrashOD Місяць тому

    This is the first video I've seen on this channel; it just popped up in my list. I enjoy videos where people conduct thorough reviews, testing out all the different features. I've now subscribed to this channel for all future videos.
    With a million lumens, you could probably blind someone-likely worse than a flash grenade, lol. I must say, I did get a small Olight I3E 90 lm that uses a AAA battery, and it works quite well. Of course, it doesn't last very long-45 minutes with an alkaline battery and 70 minutes with NiMH, according to the specifications. I just use it to check the mailbox at night about three to four times a month. The battery lasts me quite a while. I check the mailbox at one of my jobs where I have to pick up mail at night. I go through the mail for mine and leave the rest. Imagine if it had a million lumens and you could focus that beam. You could probably blind people from miles away, lol.

  • @booom2314
    @booom2314 Місяць тому +2

    Please test and compare convoy flashlights next.

  • @mr_knight4701
    @mr_knight4701 17 днів тому

    hi body. witch flashlight is best zoomable flashlight?

  • @Toumis
    @Toumis Місяць тому +1

    I have the first flashlight but rebranded,was used quiet extensively doing MOT checks!

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd Місяць тому

      I also have a couple of flashlights using this body. They hugely differ dependent on the LED.

  • @1lumen
    @1lumen Місяць тому +3

    Nice! We've done almost 700 flashlight reviews so far, and could easily tell those to be exaggerated ;) 1,000,000 lumens... :D The brightest top 5 together don't even come close to 1 million lumens.

  • @Infamouscoma885
    @Infamouscoma885 Місяць тому

    Would love to see you guys review the litez all Kodiak Kong flashlight I have the previous version and it’s ridiculously bright!

  • @00SNIVY00
    @00SNIVY00 Місяць тому

    Very happy with my Sofirn lights, really good value for what you get. I don't have the tools to test them myself, but the lumen capability seems consistent enough between the different flashlights I've purchased.

  • @hugegamer5988
    @hugegamer5988 Місяць тому +2

    This is right up there with shop vacs saying they are 5hp and plugging into 120V @15A. Even with 100% power factor (hint it’s not even close) and 100% efficient motors we are talking 1800watts available and a horsepower is about 746 watts. 2.4 is the max under physics and 1.5 is the max in reality and 1.0 - 1.3 is about the most and still be up to electrical codes.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 4 дні тому

      Also remember that on a 15A service the maximum long-term load is 80% of that, so for big gear that's supposed to run for hours at a time, it's even lower. Hence why you don't find space heaters that are over 1500w unless they require a 20A service.
      I strongly suspect that shop vacs are being measured with the motor spun up onto a dyno that's taking an instantaneous measurement as the motor spins down in order to get higher horsepower numbers, which isn't a valid test by any means. Realistically, they should be measured by mm/h2o, but, they shy away from that because they're likely all very nearly the same.

  • @thargoid666
    @thargoid666 Місяць тому +2

    1.21 gigalumens! Great scott!

  • @c0pyimitati0n
    @c0pyimitati0n 14 днів тому

    Can you recommend a great flashlight with a _wide_ beam? I ride a Onewheel and I often ride trails in the dark. I need a flashlight that isn't just a single bright hotspot. I need a super wide beam so the trail is lit evenly edge to edge.

  • @HappyHands.
    @HappyHands. Місяць тому

    Great Video as usual

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsak Місяць тому

    Very good. Thank you.

  • @GlyphZero
    @GlyphZero Місяць тому +1

    Frankenlight, how many pieces of different flashlights fit together and could that make a better flashlight?

  • @davidciesielski8251
    @davidciesielski8251 Місяць тому

    WOW, you guys are great!!!

  • @grahamcairns2249
    @grahamcairns2249 Місяць тому

    Grsat vodeo. Thanks for putting up the money to show that looking for quality is best.

  • @halozeus3844
    @halozeus3844 Місяць тому

    I'm looking for a lantern/night fishing light just to light up around us and also a direct spotlight used to get the brightest direct beam any suggestions? I'm not looking at spending a bunch maybe $120 for both

    • @matthewwimpey7220
      @matthewwimpey7220 Місяць тому +1

      I use the dewalt work like it works great for me but I already have a bunch of batteries lol

  • @SL-vs7fs
    @SL-vs7fs 6 днів тому

    These lumens have Zimbabwe’s inflation. They ended up with a 100,000,000,000,000 (100T) dollar bill.
    Looking forward to many years of these reviews.

  • @daniel9111
    @daniel9111 Місяць тому +6

    Your channel is gold. Keep it up

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 Місяць тому +1

    I'd love to see a top 10 flashlights, not made in China (or from Amazon) if that is even possible. Thanks for your great work.

  • @hildafoski2705
    @hildafoski2705 Місяць тому

    Great review:)

  • @Eric2300jeep
    @Eric2300jeep Місяць тому

    Sweet vid! What 21700 cells do you guys recommend or link to that video? I've started picking up a brand of flashlight that you guys might find interesting. Nightwatch. I get them on Neals Gadgets. Crazy powerful lights for the price!! Shipping times suck lol

    • @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188
      @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188 24 дні тому

      Molicel P42A or P45B. One has a bit more capacity(4200mah vs 4500mah) but the lesser one is half the price. Best 21700 batteries out there.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 4 дні тому

      Samsung 50e/50s are king of the ring. LG makes a m50LT that is about the same. Everything else is worse for this application.
      Remember that there are very few battery manufacturers, Sony/Samsung/LG/Panasonic are the biggest, and most other cells are simply C or B grade versions of their cells.
      Some companies like Molicel are taking B grade batteries and re-grading them, so, they run true to label, but they'll always be worse than the A grade cells they were intended to be, so it's worth just buying LG/Samsung, as those are typically the best of he best. Every once in awhile Sony/Panasonic will put out something that is very good in a given niche, but, for flashlghts, it's a pretty simple decision, max MaH, low current (

  • @TsunauticusIV
    @TsunauticusIV Місяць тому +1

    WE LOVE TTC! WOOOOOOOOO 🎉

  • @SenpaiDelta11B
    @SenpaiDelta11B 8 днів тому

    Can u test streamlight tlr 1 hl surefire x300 turbo and olight valkyrie pl pro

  • @jacksegond7163
    @jacksegond7163 Місяць тому

    Do you test head torches/ head lamps ?

  • @JeffThePoustman
    @JeffThePoustman Місяць тому

    8:23 That spot is small, but is willing to travel for the job.
    Cute, I chuckled.

  • @Forge135
    @Forge135 Місяць тому

    Can you guys figure out a way to compare the major tool brand work lights?

  • @Jeremy_Adams
    @Jeremy_Adams 27 днів тому

    Thoughts on the wuben x1?

  • @michaeljestice3895
    @michaeljestice3895 Місяць тому

    It would be awesome to see you test large weapon lights, something like the Surefire HellFighter.

  • @matthewmiller6068
    @matthewmiller6068 Місяць тому

    It would be interesting to add color temperature to your tests, several of those look purple-blue instead of white to me

  • @Risen_Q
    @Risen_Q Місяць тому +1

    I found this channel from that OG flashlight video. Was deer hunting season, and one we shot ran into the back woods at closing on a rainy day. After trying to navigate dark, rainy woods with a AA powered flashlight out of a horror game, I decided it was time for something that would turn that woods into day. That Goreit while specs are massively false advertised is a pretty badass flashlight. I got 3 of the older versions and 1 of the new ones. Plus the interstate sleeper you tested. Love the videos.

  • @martinschuessler1936
    @martinschuessler1936 Місяць тому +2

    Sofirn/Wurkos seem to be pretty honest. Not only do their lumen ratings come in close to advertised, but the batteries they include are decent too.

    • @hornetf18
      @hornetf18 Місяць тому +2

      I’ve got a chunky flashlight from them that can do 8,000 lumens and is adjustable by holder the power button. It is an absolute brick and I love it.

    • @tasaman
      @tasaman Місяць тому

      Really like my Wurkkos lights.

    • @andyj6234
      @andyj6234 Місяць тому

      ​@@hornetf18sp36 pro?

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 Місяць тому +2

    When are you guys going to start testing color temperature and CRI?

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 4 дні тому

      They're all going to be pretty terrible in that regard. Usually 6500k with a

  • @aarondavies8486
    @aarondavies8486 Місяць тому +2

    Nice one here in the uk fishing from the bank and casting like 150 yards and these torches will help me out when night fishing and seeing my lead plop

  • @jasonhill9088
    @jasonhill9088 Місяць тому +1

    Do you think you will ever test LEP Laser flashlights?

  • @dr.brysonsfamilymedicine2453
    @dr.brysonsfamilymedicine2453 Місяць тому

    Interesting as always.

  • @kctyphoon
    @kctyphoon 20 днів тому

    I really like the Wuben C3 flashlight. Bought 2 of them. Great bang for the buck IMO.

  • @Nostrite
    @Nostrite Місяць тому

    Strobe and SOS modes on flashlights are like the bottle opener of multitools 😂😂
    Gotta have them on every product to exist.

  • @user-rs4dt5mh9l
    @user-rs4dt5mh9l Місяць тому

    finaly the video i have been waiting for

  • @Daamen_Incorporated
    @Daamen_Incorporated Місяць тому +1

    You should try this with the tool brands 20v work lights (Milwaukee/dewalt)!!

  • @tom314
    @tom314 Місяць тому +1

    I think i'll stick to my old ryobi battery car vac with a car headlight projector mounted inside when I need a bright torch, it's somewhat bigger and less robust but it actually produces a useful amount of light (a bit like a car's headlights really 🤣).

  • @kenabi
    @kenabi Місяць тому +1

    my rule of thumb is simple, ~1200 max out of a well made light using quality single 18650s. with an average of around 5-600 for cheaper ones, _at best_. more likely to find ~300 or less.
    the higher they jack the lumens up, the lower i'd rate it for actual.

  • @rushinrio12
    @rushinrio12 Місяць тому

    Please make more ball joint press test videos. I need to buy a new set and want your opinion on the current market offerings. Please include OTC and more affordable offerings as well as tool truck kits. Thank you for all the great work you do!

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому

      Snap-On>>OTC=Astro>>everything else

    • @rushinrio12
      @rushinrio12 Місяць тому

      @@TorqueTestChannel so if I don’t want to pay for snap on, OTC or Astro are good bets?

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Місяць тому

      @@rushinrio12 Yup!

  • @edwardmonsariste4050
    @edwardmonsariste4050 Місяць тому +1

    I have a left field request:
    Could you test oil filter socket wrenches?
    I have purchased a couple of brands, and I still haven’t found one that doesn’t slip on the flutes.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Місяць тому

      But the one the dealerships use.

  • @DjkFarmdunn
    @DjkFarmdunn Місяць тому +1

    ever seen LEP flashlights? should really give them a shotvid like to see how they measure

  • @dundonrl
    @dundonrl Місяць тому +1

    I have a Fenix LR60R that's rated at 21000 lumens, and I GUARANTEE you that it's much brighter than any of these! For long distance I have a MAXTOCH L2KD LEP SpotLight, and while it's only 650 lumens, due to how tight of a beam it has, it's rated at 3,051,00 candela! (and has a useful reach of 2.1 miles.

  • @Fantaman900
    @Fantaman900 Місяць тому

    I had forgotten my trustfire mc12 laying under a car and when I backed up I put a little dent in it. Eh the battery won't slide out but everything works just fine. I probably lose it before I need a new batterie. Also a great fan of nitecore flashlights. The ones I use are all small and turbo mode is just blindingly bright and 1 lumen low mode I perfect enough light to see in pitch black darkness to see where you going.