X870E Nova is the best value $349 for 5 M2 SSD slots, up to 8400hz RAM, EZ release, 23 power stages, backplate, 5gb LAN, and most importantly of all NO LANE SHARING
@@ShadowAngelS2K true that :D, No lane sharing is actually a very neat thing. Thanks for pointing that out. Even the MSI Carbon which is a lot more expensive shares the primary PCIE lanes between M.2 and graphics.
No 10G on a 500+€ motherboard is an instant no buy. It is 2024 they need to do better. Instead of adding 2 nics on the HERO they should have just added a single 10G.
@@Pro4TLZZ well, i have 4090 for 2 years now, no DP 2.1 is bad, but no deal breaker, since DSC and DP1.4a works good enough for me (3440x1440 @240Hz @12-bit).
@@Pro4TLZZ OK, didn't know about this problem. I think i could avoid DSC by using HDMI2.1, as my monitor has such port, but until now I saw no reason for it.
No more Asus for me. Asus let me down when they decided to put out a bios for the x670e-e that blocks EXPO all because they thought my memory was too hot so I'm stuck on 0805. F THEM!
I feel like there is no reliable motherboard maker any more: my Gigabyte X670 board won't run EXPO since the SoC voltage reduction BIOS last year, MSI also have EXPO stability problems, Asus has issues, ASRock are famous for bad BIOS but seem to be improving
good review, i would personally enjoy if you told the pcie connectivity electrically since most of the port are x16 physically but the connection is most likely x1 or x4 for the bottom slots.
Thank you for the exposition of the Asus boards. I'm still convinced the MSI Tomahawk (€299) is the correct choice for me. VRM's are a non issue with X870 boards. It's all 14 stages or up. All of them are overkill. The lack of a Toshiba optical SPDIF is a straight disqualification for me. (Afgekeurd!) I mean, I could do without, but I don't want to do without. The lack of USB 2.0 ports is something to consider. It's madness to plug a mouse, a keyboard, printer, headphones, etc., into 10Gb+ ports. USB 2.0 ports are useful and reliable. And they don't require PCIe lanes, or drivers. Some other reviewers pointed out memory stability problems with Asus, ASRock and Gigabyte. Only their top tier >€450 boards can run the highest currently available EXPO profile kits (8000MT/s) without stability problems. Except for MSI. The whole MSI X870(x) line up is stable with the highest currently available EXPO profiles. Now, I'm not actually buying an 8000 MT/s kit. But still I prefer a known stable platform. I think this generation MSI is on top. And the Tomahawk comes with optical SPDIF and a postcode display. My 2nd choice would be the ASRock X870 Pro RS. Cheapest in class and most bang for buck in class. Including optical SPDIF and troubleshooting LEDs.
I purchased (shortly after launch) the Asus X670E-I w/ the Hive adapter for roughly €330 including local taxes here in Australia 🇦🇺 and it’s the same ITX motherboard as the X870-I from Asus ….. except motherboard name and bios revision (bios can easily be updated without a cpu anyhow) I believe the X670E-I is a much better choice and still features 2x USB4 ports which is as “future proof” as the new model which is waaay more pricier!
Over time I expect the X870-I to replace old X670E-I stock, but for now it's definitely not worth paying a lot more for, if at all. I bet anyone that bought one at the time feels happy now though!
I found myself leaning towards X870E because the price range is so close to the base x870 line up for a lot of the boards. The cost of the boards are generally too high in relation to AM4 boards (+100 accros the range). Hopefully these boards get supported for another 2-3 cpu generations to offset the price increase.
I purchased (shortly after launch) the Asus X670E-I w/ the Hive adapter for roughly €330 including local taxes here in Australia 🇦🇺 and it’s the same ITX motherboard as the X870-I from Asus ….. except motherboard name and bios revision (bios can easily be updated without a cpu anyhow) I believe the X670E-I is a much better choice and still features 2x USB4 ports which is as “future proof” as the new model which is waaay more pricier!
I have the Asus Strix X870-A to go with my 9800X3D going in a corsair 6500X in an all white build. I have all corsair white QX 120 fans and icue link 360mm AIO. the last piece will be a 5090 preferably the Asus Rog Strix OC in white.
It is a shame that only the TUF model has an extra "Rear" audio connector. Many legacy four-channel audio systems need both the front- and the rear- signals. I wonder if any of the Asus boards support extra thermistors. It is really useful to measure the temperature of a tower cooler or the backplate of the graphics card to control the case fans. The ASRock Taichi (lite) even comes with the thermistors!
I am thinking of switching from X670E-I to X870-I because I am upgrading to 10Gbps internet and I want Wifi 7, and I've been tweaking my RAM a lot.... and I really like the Clear CMOS button on the back of the motherboard as my SFF can't let me reach the jumper.
Even troubleshooting LEDs are insufficient. There are very very few motherboards out there so cheap that they should not ship with freaking post code seven segment displays. It's a basic feature!
Are you going to go over msi as well? Also as someone else said could you go over what lanes are shared, like what shares lanes with the gpu and what might get disabled when using certain slots. Thank you!
I'm thinking ProArt for a 9000s cpu. More nvme than I need but looks good. Still have a lot of small spinning disks to get rid of. Guess I'm runnning late on the tech.
i am still waiting if we get a new all white motherboard with the backside connectors for am5... the only one i know of is the aorus b650e stealth ice, but i cant find any information about anything comparable....
I hear all these m.2 slots and pciex16 slots and I salivate but I'm waiting to hear about shared bandwidth and it never comes. Maybe shared bandwidth isn't a thing with these boards and I'm sensitive to shared bandwidth after learning about it the hard way. Links to each board's manual would be sweet. Great presentation though!
Great video as always Nada.I will be purchasing the ASUS ROG STRIX X870E-E GAMING along with the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X for my new workstation/ drone content creation build later this year.
You have to go to an Intel platform for Thunderbolt? I know they can't call it that because of licensing issues, but is that not the whole point of X870?
X870E Hero is disappointing compared to the X670E Hero due to losing said rear USB-A, because with how cards are right now I don't think any one requires a second card at the bottom. But as a person with several peripherals six does not allow me much wiggle room, lol. Also where is the 10GB? Why a 2.5 and 5G? When a singular 10GB could be excellent? There is also the issue of the top M.2 slot of the X870E Hero getting much warmer then competitors by up to at least 10 degrees.
I've narrowed it down to 2 options: Budget: ASUS TUF Gaming X870-Plus WiFi $420 CAD Premium: ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E Gaming WiFi $675 CAD If I don't care about overclocking do i just get the budget one? Or does the ROG Strix give better Wifi or something useful? I'll be getting a 9800X3D and a RTX 5070/80/90 (depending on $/frame)
Assuming you: - Don't need the extra storage, USB options or postcode that the Strix offers - Don't care about the Strix looks - Don't care about extreme overclocking Then I really don't see why you would pay more for the Strix -E. I didn't dive further into the WiFi but I really doubt it'll make a meaningful difference, if at all. But you'd gain more in your gaming experience by spending the extra 250-ish dollars on anything else: GPU, storage, display, peripherals, etc.
@@TechTestersHi, I purchased strix x870e-e initially but i wanted to do white build so wanted to get x870a now. But i don't think the shop would accept returns, So is the e really a better board than a?
Very good overview, shame that Asus really prices themselves out of the market(well they should, people buy them regardless ... ). Base models from other brands are around 40-50 euros less then the Prime. Unsure exactly from memory how the VRAMs and feature sets stack up, but i assume they are comperable. on the same price point as the Prime i find proper high-mid range boards from Gigabyte and MSI which i would choose 10/10 over the Prime. i went with a gigabyte aorus elite x870e motherboard myself, It was around 10 euros more then the Prime, but came with 4 NVMe slots, debug led, easy disconnects of all NVMe slots, full pcie lanes, included power and cmos buttons on mobo.
But again a huge case for a huge motherboard. Lack of mATX and mini-ITX. Also I need those boards with bifurcation. A hassle to figure out most of the time.
I was waiting for this one! I've been on the fence with Asus for a while and wanted to see what they had to offer across their line in the 870 chipset Edit: might have to wait and see what MSI has to offer, not super impressed with the Asus lineup, at least not for the prices
I don't know jack shit about motherboards, I've never been able to wrap my head around the models, features, and their differences. I'm still waiting on my 9800X3D but it's on backorder so I'm trying to figure out a good mobo and I've narrowed it down to either an X870 or B650E as long as they support DDR5 6000, but specifically for the 5.0 PCIe slot for the new 50 series card I'll be getting when they release. I'm not looking to break the bank but I can, don't care about USB4, I mostly use speakers so decent audio would be nice, and I don't care about overclocking. I was looking at an MSI X870 Tomahawk but I have no idea how that compares to any of these boards, the TUF Gaming looks to be fairly similar at the same price? Are there any boards that people would recommend?
As far as I know any AM5 board can run 6000 MT/s in 1:1 mode (it is actually not a very high speed anymore) thus that cannot limit your choices. Audio-wise what speakers do you have? In my opinion for anything above 2x5W the on-board audio is out of question: the amplifier is simply too weak to drive such speakers. It is better to buy an external DAC - even a cheap one can serve well. (Once I tested my SB Audigy FX 5.1 against the Gigabyte B650 on-board audio, because they have the same ALC 892 chip. Even the SB sounded much better than the on-board on my Edifier R1280Ts. And recently a bought an external DAC for around 35 Euros. I think it is better investment than the on-board audio, you can carry it into future builds.) I had a Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX until it went wrong, even twice because I returned to the manufacturer and they "repaired" it under warranty. It looks really good and feels quality, but based on my experience I am not sure if it represents quality only optically. Otherwise I would be able to recommend a Gigabyte X870 board.
The Tomahawk is generally a good mid-ish-tier board for most builds, just like the TUF is. Pretty much just check if they offer enough storage and USB options, and if you like the look and price where you live. Can't go wrong with either and both should run popular DDR5-6000 c30 kits without issues.
I wished the 16 and 12 core models were also presented now, motherboards expensive as usual unfortunately. even if I will probably buy the 16 core 9950x3d I won't buy anything more expensive than the TUF. money are better spent of faster RAM.
Ridiculous prices and lineup. Seriously 99% of high-end gamers now use one PCIE slot, 1-3 M.2s, don't use SATA fullstop, and are screaming out for debug code display. Who the hell needs a board with 5 M.2s? Can't stand ASUS pricing and differentiation.
Launch prices are usually pretty high, just give it time. I think I saw a B650-A Strix board the other day for 180 euros or so, about half the launch price.
I build PCs with Asus for 20 years, but i stopped. The two builds in the last 3 years, i go with MSI and the last with Asrock. The Hero plattform got crazy with the prices. Asus lost my trust and u get better options for much cheaper.
Until Asus can fix many of the issues affecting their motherboards one being the Asus service crash with EA anti cheat people should not buy Asus MB until that and other issues are resolved. Also clean up the bloat that is Armoury Crate.
Belle présentation, il faut reconaitre que les concepteurs de cartes font de magnifiques produits. Se que je déplore, sais la course à la puissance; toujours plus de Watt, de RAM, bientôt il faudra avoir des mini climatiseurs pour refroidir CPU, GPU etc; sans oublié le groupe électrogène pour alimenter un simple ordinateur de particulier! et pourquoi?. Des jeux, que les concepteurs ne cherchent pas à améliorer en profondeur pour leurs garder une consomation raisonable en utilisation. Beaucoup des superbes produits que vous nous avez présentée depuis la reprise, vu les prix!, ne seront pas accessibles pour beaucoup d'entre nous!. Puis-je vous demander, dans vos futures vidéos "si possible" de traiter le sujet des "Mini PC" qui par raport au reste du monde de l'informatique évolue aussi. Depuis 4, 5 ans que je vous suis je n'ai pas souvenir de vous avoir vue traiter ce sujet. Au plaisir de la prochaine vidéo. Merci.
Intel and AMD need to improve. Intel's prices are too high for their specs, while the Mac M4 offers great performance at a lower cost. A Mac mini M4 could be cheaper than building an AMD setup that matches its performance... AMD is not the ideal choice for video editing or Adobe software applications. In comparison, Intel and Nvidia perform well in these tasks...
The channel that always provides the details that many overlook yet plenty more need
X870E Nova is the best value
$349 for 5 M2 SSD slots, up to 8400hz RAM, EZ release, 23 power stages, backplate, 5gb LAN, and most importantly of all NO LANE SHARING
good luck finding it in stock
the 5th M.2 is basically a dummy isn't it? It's a Gen 3x2 which is ok to have but nothing to boast off. Still a pretty good board IMO!
@ still extra storage, we cant get enough of it obviously cuz we dont delete anything on our pc for some reason
@@Eskoxo should have bought when it launched then
@@ShadowAngelS2K true that :D, No lane sharing is actually a very neat thing. Thanks for pointing that out. Even the MSI Carbon which is a lot more expensive shares the primary PCIE lanes between M.2 and graphics.
No 10G on a 500+€ motherboard is an instant no buy. It is 2024 they need to do better. Instead of adding 2 nics on the HERO they should have just added a single 10G.
+1 Yes, and what’s worse, there's no Crosshair x870E Extreme anymore and x870E Hero costs almost as much as my old Crosshair VIII Extreme (AM4, x570).
It's like the missing dp 2.1 on a 4090. No way I spend that much money without premium features
@@Pro4TLZZ well, i have 4090 for 2 years now, no DP 2.1 is bad, but no deal breaker, since DSC and DP1.4a works good enough for me (3440x1440 @240Hz @12-bit).
@@Wlad1 good for you but having to deal with DSC is an issue for me. Only earlier this year did Nvidia fix the problem I was having with DSC.
@@Pro4TLZZ OK, didn't know about this problem. I think i could avoid DSC by using HDMI2.1, as my monitor has such port, but until now I saw no reason for it.
Standing up for debug leds like a queen!
I love the lego being used to showcase products.
TLDR:
Motherboards tested:
- ASUS Prime X870-P WiFi: Cheapest ~ €300, 4x M.2 slots, basic sound card, no debug LEDs
- ASUS TUF Gaming X870-Plus WiFi: ~€330, better VRMs, better audio. Recommended midrange board.
- ASUS ROG Strix X870-A Gaming WiFi: ~€420, white, slight improvement
- ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E Gaming WiFi: ~€540, higher end, better VRMs
- ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Hero: ~660€, offers 2nd PCIE gen 5 slot, hard to recommend unless doing extreme overclocking
- ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator WiFi: nicer design, 10 GbE LAN, faster USB, heatsinks on all nvme slots, 2x Gen5 expansion slots - ASUS ROG Strix X870-I Gaming WiFi: ITX, ~€500, recommends older X670 version instead
I bought x870e-e instead of x870a for my all white build, i think the shop won't accept return, is that a good board than x870a?
No more Asus for me. Asus let me down when they decided to put out a bios for the x670e-e that blocks EXPO all because they thought my memory was too hot so I'm stuck on 0805. F THEM!
Just when one thinks scumbag Asus changed their behavior after backlash, they don't disappoint and remind us yet again. Thx for info
Same mobo owner and my experience is similar. I will be avoiding all ASUS products going forward.
try manually adjusting the memory or install the older bios version...
I feel like there is no reliable motherboard maker any more: my Gigabyte X670 board won't run EXPO since the SoC voltage reduction BIOS last year, MSI also have EXPO stability problems, Asus has issues, ASRock are famous for bad BIOS but seem to be improving
The lack of USB on the back of the hero board is a crime!
good review, i would personally enjoy if you told the pcie connectivity electrically since most of the port are x16 physically but the connection is most likely x1 or x4 for the bottom slots.
Beautiful! Was waiting for this one after your Z890 vids, thank you very much! :)
My pleasure!
Thank you for the exposition of the Asus boards. I'm still convinced the MSI Tomahawk (€299) is the correct choice for me.
VRM's are a non issue with X870 boards. It's all 14 stages or up. All of them are overkill.
The lack of a Toshiba optical SPDIF is a straight disqualification for me. (Afgekeurd!) I mean, I could do without, but I don't want to do without.
The lack of USB 2.0 ports is something to consider. It's madness to plug a mouse, a keyboard, printer, headphones, etc., into 10Gb+ ports. USB 2.0 ports are useful and reliable. And they don't require PCIe lanes, or drivers.
Some other reviewers pointed out memory stability problems with Asus, ASRock and Gigabyte. Only their top tier >€450 boards can run the highest currently available EXPO profile kits (8000MT/s) without stability problems. Except for MSI. The whole MSI X870(x) line up is stable with the highest currently available EXPO profiles.
Now, I'm not actually buying an 8000 MT/s kit. But still I prefer a known stable platform.
I think this generation MSI is on top. And the Tomahawk comes with optical SPDIF and a postcode display.
My 2nd choice would be the ASRock X870 Pro RS. Cheapest in class and most bang for buck in class. Including optical SPDIF and troubleshooting LEDs.
I purchased (shortly after launch) the Asus X670E-I w/ the Hive adapter for roughly €330 including local taxes here in Australia 🇦🇺 and it’s the same ITX motherboard as the X870-I from Asus ….. except motherboard name and bios revision (bios can easily be updated without a cpu anyhow) I believe the X670E-I is a much better choice and still features 2x USB4 ports which is as “future proof” as the new model which is waaay more pricier!
Over time I expect the X870-I to replace old X670E-I stock, but for now it's definitely not worth paying a lot more for, if at all. I bet anyone that bought one at the time feels happy now though!
I found myself leaning towards X870E because the price range is so close to the base x870 line up for a lot of the boards. The cost of the boards are generally too high in relation to AM4 boards (+100 accros the range). Hopefully these boards get supported for another 2-3 cpu generations to offset the price increase.
There we go, might just be buying one of these
i'm eyeing on X870-I ITX mainboard as well
btw nice video :)
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I purchased (shortly after launch) the Asus X670E-I w/ the Hive adapter for roughly €330 including local taxes here in Australia 🇦🇺 and it’s the same ITX motherboard as the X870-I from Asus ….. except motherboard name and bios revision (bios can easily be updated without a cpu anyhow) I believe the X670E-I is a much better choice and still features 2x USB4 ports which is as “future proof” as the new model which is waaay more pricier!
Keep in mind AMDs x870 (non e) is basically a B650E, besides the USB4 Chip.
Would be cool to see a comparison between the top end x870e models from asus, msi, gigabyte and asrock
I have the Asus Strix X870-A to go with my 9800X3D going in a corsair 6500X in an all white build. I have all corsair white QX 120 fans and icue link 360mm AIO. the last piece will be a 5090 preferably the Asus Rog Strix OC in white.
It is a shame that only the TUF model has an extra "Rear" audio connector. Many legacy four-channel audio systems need both the front- and the rear- signals. I wonder if any of the Asus boards support extra thermistors. It is really useful to measure the temperature of a tower cooler or the backplate of the graphics card to control the case fans. The ASRock Taichi (lite) even comes with the thermistors!
that itx rog board is gorgeous.
I have it with the 9800x3d and I’m torn between putting them in the Xtia Xproto-L or my formd T1.
Meh, just got a nice MSI Mortar B650M. Good enough.
Still, need to keep up to date.
whats the deal with asus mother boards ruining the amd ryzen 7800x3d cpus? is it certain motherboards or are they all defective ?
I am thinking of switching from X670E-I to X870-I because I am upgrading to 10Gbps internet and I want Wifi 7, and I've been tweaking my RAM a lot.... and I really like the Clear CMOS button on the back of the motherboard as my SFF can't let me reach the jumper.
For the Hero model, you forgot an important and interesting mini SAS port, which can be adjusted according to needs.
I believe I did mention it. I'm just not sure who is really using it?
@@TechTesters Try install 4090 on art :) second slot be blocked :) for capture card :)
My Z170 Progaming that I currently use is just 200 bucks from 8 years ago
I freaking love your reviews keep up the good work!!
Hartelijk dank Nada voor de geweldige recensie van de nieuwe ASUS X870-moederbordreeks 🥳👌🙌
Id say gor X870 series ASRock cooked. None of their boards have lane sharing.
Pro RS is 200
Nova is 350
Taichi is 500
I want to see the new AMD CPU's benchmark results using the X670E vs X870E and how close they are
Shouldn't make any meaningful difference, the new chipsets are the same at their core.
@@TechTesters Thanks was wondering that with having the X670E board
Excellent thank you ! Are you going to do a 9800x3d review at some point or do you think its been covered enough?
Thanks! And working on it, hopefully next week.
Great video, as always! These prices are insane, nearly 300€ for the most basic motherboard feels like scam.
Even troubleshooting LEDs are insufficient. There are very very few motherboards out there so cheap that they should not ship with freaking post code seven segment displays. It's a basic feature!
Are you going to go over msi as well? Also as someone else said could you go over what lanes are shared, like what shares lanes with the gpu and what might get disabled when using certain slots. Thank you!
I'm thinking ProArt for a 9000s cpu. More nvme than I need but looks good. Still have a lot of small spinning disks to get rid of. Guess I'm runnning late on the tech.
not worth it:
- cheap vrm
- no debug lcd
- cheap audio
- no secondary 10gbe
i am still waiting if we get a new all white motherboard with the backside connectors for am5... the only one i know of is the aorus b650e stealth ice, but i cant find any information about anything comparable....
I hear all these m.2 slots and pciex16 slots and I salivate but I'm waiting to hear about shared bandwidth and it never comes. Maybe shared bandwidth isn't a thing with these boards and I'm sensitive to shared bandwidth after learning about it the hard way. Links to each board's manual would be sweet. Great presentation though!
My Asus B550 was ready 4 years ago
I need a X870E white BTF motherboard.
And there I was, thinking I'm the only one who doesn't plug in the power led (nor do I plug in the hdd led).
Best reviewer channel on YT. Love your work. (altijd lief en glimlachend)
Why would you purchase an ASUS product with their history of refusing warranties
Asus are not even exists 4 me.
because ive never had an asus product fail me, ever.
Great video as always Nada.I will be purchasing the ASUS ROG STRIX X870E-E GAMING along with the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X for my new workstation/ drone content creation build later this year.
3:00 What's the point of a PCIe slot right below the main PCIe slot?
that crosshair hero cost more than my whole build 5 years ago.
You have to go to an Intel platform for Thunderbolt? I know they can't call it that because of licensing issues, but is that not the whole point of X870?
But why would you want to? Oder x670E Haro has Thunderbolt, but people want USB4 - that's why they pay the extra for Hero x870E.
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I think the Proart M.2s are all pcie gen5.
2x Gen5 and 2x Gen4 iirc. Which realistically is plenty.
Thanks for this munch needed.
I love your informative videos. Please try to test the msi spatium m482 2tb. thanks
12:00 Below 300 euro for the entry level board sounds appealing? I'd rather go for a decent B650 board for half the price.
I'm waiting for the ASRock roundup. I think you'll find they blow away these Asus boards in quality, value and features
Trying to get hold of a couple of ASRock boards for a video, hopefully soon!
X870E Hero is disappointing compared to the X670E Hero due to losing said rear USB-A, because with how cards are right now I don't think any one requires a second card at the bottom. But as a person with several peripherals six does not allow me much wiggle room, lol. Also where is the 10GB? Why a 2.5 and 5G? When a singular 10GB could be excellent? There is also the issue of the top M.2 slot of the X870E Hero getting much warmer then competitors by up to at least 10 degrees.
Excellent - Thanks! Will you be doing the MSI X870s as well?
Thanks! And I will if I manage to get at least 3-4 boards to cover, so far, just 1.
@@TechTesters Thank you. Its the Carbon WiFi that I'm interested in 👍
I've narrowed it down to 2 options:
Budget: ASUS TUF Gaming X870-Plus WiFi $420 CAD
Premium: ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E Gaming WiFi $675 CAD
If I don't care about overclocking do i just get the budget one? Or does the ROG Strix give better Wifi or something useful?
I'll be getting a 9800X3D and a RTX 5070/80/90 (depending on $/frame)
I have been using and like The Asus ProArt series of MB's. I started with the ProArt X470 and am at the ProArt X670-E Creator WiFi right now.
Assuming you:
- Don't need the extra storage, USB options or postcode that the Strix offers
- Don't care about the Strix looks
- Don't care about extreme overclocking
Then I really don't see why you would pay more for the Strix -E. I didn't dive further into the WiFi but I really doubt it'll make a meaningful difference, if at all. But you'd gain more in your gaming experience by spending the extra 250-ish dollars on anything else: GPU, storage, display, peripherals, etc.
@@TechTestersHi, I purchased strix x870e-e initially but i wanted to do white build so wanted to get x870a now. But i don't think the shop would accept returns, So is the e really a better board than a?
Great video.
Very nice ❤❤❤❤❤. Thank you.
Most welcome 😊
Very good overview, shame that Asus really prices themselves out of the market(well they should, people buy them regardless ... ). Base models from other brands are around 40-50 euros less then the Prime. Unsure exactly from memory how the VRAMs and feature sets stack up, but i assume they are comperable. on the same price point as the Prime i find proper high-mid range boards from Gigabyte and MSI which i would choose 10/10 over the Prime.
i went with a gigabyte aorus elite x870e motherboard myself, It was around 10 euros more then the Prime, but came with 4 NVMe slots, debug led, easy disconnects of all NVMe slots, full pcie lanes, included power and cmos buttons on mobo.
Hey there Nada!
Can you do Asrock and MSI please? They have some good options for mid-range I believe
Trying to get my hands on some ASRock boards. MSI just doesn't seem to care much about AMD at all, I only managed to grab one board so far :D
Do you know if there are any x870 matx boards on the horizon from any brand? I really dont need a full size atx board.
Not a single one so far that I've seen.
@TechTesters thx for reply
Any idea if Asus will release an Extreme motherboard for X870. Asus did release one for Intel's latest. Thanks.
I haven't seen it, but often it's a surprise until it actually shows up.
USB4 SAME = THUNDERBOLT4 no difrance
yeah, I can certainly remember of a X870 review from another UA-camr mentioning that it had THUNDERBOLT 4 on the back panel.
The Pro-Art is the obvious choice IMHO - it is only 113 more expensive than the TUF - de rigueur in a 870(E) build. Great review. Food for thought.
But again a huge case for a huge motherboard. Lack of mATX and mini-ITX.
Also I need those boards with bifurcation. A hassle to figure out most of the time.
No debug display.
it has similar price as x870e-e in my area, unless you want to use 10GB slot or like the look, otherwise x870e-e is far more worth the money.
I was waiting for this one! I've been on the fence with Asus for a while and wanted to see what they had to offer across their line in the 870 chipset
Edit: might have to wait and see what MSI has to offer, not super impressed with the Asus lineup, at least not for the prices
Strix-E for the 5GbE.
what about Gigabyte B650E Aorus Stealth Ice mbo for ryzen 7 9800x3d good or not for that cpu
Interesting board. Haven't seen it yet but on paper it should not have issues with a 9800X3D.
I don't know jack shit about motherboards, I've never been able to wrap my head around the models, features, and their differences. I'm still waiting on my 9800X3D but it's on backorder so I'm trying to figure out a good mobo and I've narrowed it down to either an X870 or B650E as long as they support DDR5 6000, but specifically for the 5.0 PCIe slot for the new 50 series card I'll be getting when they release. I'm not looking to break the bank but I can, don't care about USB4, I mostly use speakers so decent audio would be nice, and I don't care about overclocking. I was looking at an MSI X870 Tomahawk but I have no idea how that compares to any of these boards, the TUF Gaming looks to be fairly similar at the same price?
Are there any boards that people would recommend?
As far as I know any AM5 board can run 6000 MT/s in 1:1 mode (it is actually not a very high speed anymore) thus that cannot limit your choices. Audio-wise what speakers do you have? In my opinion for anything above 2x5W the on-board audio is out of question: the amplifier is simply too weak to drive such speakers. It is better to buy an external DAC - even a cheap one can serve well. (Once I tested my SB Audigy FX 5.1 against the Gigabyte B650 on-board audio, because they have the same ALC 892 chip. Even the SB sounded much better than the on-board on my Edifier R1280Ts. And recently a bought an external DAC for around 35 Euros. I think it is better investment than the on-board audio, you can carry it into future builds.)
I had a Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX until it went wrong, even twice because I returned to the manufacturer and they "repaired" it under warranty. It looks really good and feels quality, but based on my experience I am not sure if it represents quality only optically. Otherwise I would be able to recommend a Gigabyte X870 board.
The Tomahawk is generally a good mid-ish-tier board for most builds, just like the TUF is. Pretty much just check if they offer enough storage and USB options, and if you like the look and price where you live. Can't go wrong with either and both should run popular DDR5-6000 c30 kits without issues.
I wished the 16 and 12 core models were also presented now, motherboards expensive as usual unfortunately. even if I will probably buy the 16 core 9950x3d I won't buy anything more expensive than the TUF. money are better spent of faster RAM.
finally x870😊, but why AMD doesn't have 2-channel ram like rog apex🤔
ITX? :D
@TechTesters Hahaha yes😅,but I prefer ATX.
ahhh another nice review by the tech mama herself :)
does the hero need bios update for 9800 will it post or need to update bios 1st using flash
It should boot up even if it comes with the very first bios, but you will want to update it after that anyway.
As a gamer, I'd prefer minimalistic design of proart board instead of gamer-ish design on strix boards. Anyone else?
noone buys Asus anymore.
Ridiculous prices and lineup. Seriously 99% of high-end gamers now use one PCIE slot, 1-3 M.2s, don't use SATA fullstop, and are screaming out for debug code display. Who the hell needs a board with 5 M.2s? Can't stand ASUS pricing and differentiation.
Whar you recommend to get? I rather stay away asus for this reason
I was waiting on this video before I bought the 9800X 3d but now I have X870E-E gaming RIP (still happy tho)
Nice board! Enjoy it!
Pcie 5.0 ?
Great video but may I give you some constructive feedback please? Please timestamp each motherboard…
There are timestamps for each board? :)
where's budget friendly x870-F?
Why only Asus?
Because that's literally what I have right now, I'll cover more as soon as I can :)
The *** has happened to motherboard prices? Damn.
Launch prices are usually pretty high, just give it time. I think I saw a B650-A Strix board the other day for 180 euros or so, about half the launch price.
Mboard prices are climbing just as graphics cards' prices..very soon we will see a $1000 board...or they already have one?😅
See video from you - push the like!
just here this early to report some bots and watch the vid😅
I build PCs with Asus for 20 years, but i stopped. The two builds in the last 3 years, i go with MSI and the last with Asrock. The Hero plattform got crazy with the prices. Asus lost my trust and u get better options for much cheaper.
Until Asus can fix many of the issues affecting their motherboards one being the Asus service crash with EA anti cheat people should not buy Asus MB until that and other issues are resolved. Also clean up the bloat that is Armoury Crate.
1:29 with their AI all over the place I need another AI to help me choose the product from their product line lmao
Damn that's a reason to go B760i alone with an Intel chip! That's some serious money to go AMD!
Belle présentation, il faut reconaitre que les concepteurs de cartes font de magnifiques produits.
Se que je déplore, sais la course à la puissance; toujours plus de Watt, de RAM, bientôt il faudra avoir des mini climatiseurs pour refroidir CPU, GPU etc; sans oublié le groupe électrogène pour alimenter un simple ordinateur de particulier! et pourquoi?. Des jeux, que les concepteurs ne cherchent pas à améliorer en profondeur pour leurs garder une consomation raisonable en utilisation.
Beaucoup des superbes produits que vous nous avez présentée depuis la reprise, vu les prix!, ne seront pas accessibles pour beaucoup d'entre nous!.
Puis-je vous demander, dans vos futures vidéos "si possible" de traiter le sujet des "Mini PC" qui par raport au reste du monde de l'informatique évolue aussi. Depuis 4, 5 ans que je vous suis je n'ai pas souvenir de vous avoir vue traiter ce sujet.
Au plaisir de la prochaine vidéo. Merci.
Intel and AMD need to improve. Intel's prices are too high for their specs, while the Mac M4 offers great performance at a lower cost. A Mac mini M4 could be cheaper than building an AMD setup that matches its performance...
AMD is not the ideal choice for video editing or Adobe software applications. In comparison, Intel and Nvidia perform well in these tasks...
I just liked within 5 seconds of watching, Why!!! Bcos of the voice
Minus 300€ on all of their product, and then I consider Asus as something.
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I'll pass on this sponsored commercial. Overpriced....there ya go. Just saved you 15 minutes
Asus fucked up with previous intel bioses, I will never buy again.
I'm still running x570, LOL
Avoid trash asus
Meh, not worth it, I'll stick with my X670E.
Still overpriced as their "new" best to wait like 6 months or get X670E.
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No thanks, at these prices I`d rather go MSI or Asrock